This is dumb. >> Who? >> My mom. I don't want my child to eat. >> She's been mouththing off and trying to hit us. >> Your brain does not accept help. >> No, she can't. >> It's not fair to her son to be seeing this. >> Pulled a knife out on me. >> She's going to give my child not touch me. On October 6th, 2024, officers responded to a neighborhood following a report of a woman yelling and screaming that her son was in danger and that her mother was refusing to help. >> What's going on? >> No. No. N is going to get >> Who? >> My son. My child. >> Why is your son going to get killed? >> Because this is dumb. >> Who? >> My mom. >> Okay. All right. So, what's going on with you today? >> Nothing. >> So, why are you yelling and screaming? >> Cuz she's dumb. She doesn't want to listen to the truth. She's dumb. >> So, what's what's the truth? >> She's going to get killed. >> What's the truth, though? >> That Nixon is going to get killed. >> How? >> He's going to get molested. I don't know what, but she is dumb. Okay. Good job. >> All right. >> Not listening to me. >> What can What can I do for you? What can I do for you to help you out? >> Nothing. >> Well, I want to help you out. So, tell me, what can I do for you? >> There's nothing. >> Well, I'm sure there's something I can do for you. >> There's nothing. >> Well, I would like to help you out. Can you let me help you out at least? I can talk to your mom. Maybe. >> No. >> No, >> there's no talking to her. >> Is she if she's an unreasonable person? >> Okay. All right. >> There's no talking to her. >> I tried, but there's no talking. Where where do you live? >> Right there. >> Okay. Um just be, you know, aware of the zero behind her. So, um so I I would like to talk to your mom. Can you at least talk to this everybody talk to your mom? >> You okay with that? >> Well, I would like to talk to her at least. >> There's no talking to her, man. I've already tried. >> I would like to talk to her. >> What's What's your mom's name at least? Can I get your information? >> Nicole. >> Okay. Saying last name. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, Nicole, I do see a knife in your back pocket. Okay. Um, are you okay with me grabbing that from you? Just >> what? >> Just Just so when we're talking, I don't have to be worried or anything like that. >> I'm not going to stab you. >> Well, ju I'm I'm a scared guy, so I last Last thing I want to do is be scared of you. >> Be scared. >> Well, do you mind if I at least just >> Can we be friends? >> I want to be friends with you. That's what I'm saying. So we can be on even terms. Can I at least >> You don't have to reach for it. You don't have to reach for it. You don't have to reach for it. Do you mind if I just grab it for you? And >> All right. Perfect. Awesome. Thank you for being thank you for being friendly with me. I'm just going to put this on on top of my hood. Do you mind if we talk by my car? >> Yeah. >> Perfect. Okay. So, funny enough, I'm going to try to avoid puddles because I just got my boots dried the other day. So, I'm just going to hop towards you. But >> so, does this happen often between you and your mom where you guys are? You >> sometimes. Was that why you were out here today? I I kind of missed the first half of the >> Yeah, I I guess um she she believes that her her son is endangered and that her mom's not really helping her um help her son >> car. >> So the caron. >> Yeah. Um what's it called? So that's that's where we're at right now. I didn't want you to get your feet wet. Are you trying to avoid the rocks? >> Yeah, I was. >> Okay, I got you. So >> yeah. Yeah. What happened during the argument? I said, "But I didn't want." >> What didn't you want? >> That my child to be taken from me. >> Why is that? >> Because I don't want my child taken from me. >> No, I'm saying why is your child being taken from Who's trying to take your child? >> Oh, well, I mean, if you guys are >> No, I I promise you I'm not trying to take your child. Last thing I want to do is separate your child from from his mother. But what I'm saying, who's trying to take your child away? Your is it your mom trying to take your child away from you >> or DCF or who? >> Just anyone. >> Anyone? Okay. All right. I can see that you you're protective of your child. I I can understand that. That's good. I'm glad to hear that. That's what that's what I want to hear. But what what type of danger is your child in? You were telling me earlier that he was in danger of being molested and and taken advantage of. >> It's just I'm not there. >> You're not there? >> If I'm not there, >> something might happen to him. >> Yes. I'm scared. >> Okay. So, >> where does your child live? >> Anyone? Wouldn't that be anyone? >> Yeah. No, that's that's understandable. That's understandable. >> Where does your child live now? >> Then we're my friends. >> Oh, so you all you guys live together? Yes. Okay. All right. Where were you planning on going? I see you have a little bit of your belongings. Where were you headed? >> Uh I just found this bag. Somebody's getting bag. >> Oh, one night. I don't know. I barely don't know. >> Oh, okay. All right. >> I really had no idea. >> Okay. All right. >> What's your What's your plan after this? >> I'm not sure. >> Worth for. Thank you. Okay. >> All right. >> Let me just start grabbing your information. What's your last name again? >> Uh, Little I see you got a little bit of a scratch on your forehead. You want to get checked out for that? >> Uh, I've already been to the ER. >> Oh, you already been to the ER? >> Yeah. And you got stitches, it looks like. >> Yes. Okay. >> All right. How'd you get that? >> Uh, I don't know. They I just went in there and I was like, you know, something's wrong. >> Oh, just show showed up on you. >> Yeah, >> I got you. Okay. What's your child's name? He almost has the same birthday as you. >> Yeah. >> And what's your guys's address be behind here? >> Jake. >> Yep. That's me. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, did you want to walk over with me um back to the house and we could just talk in the driveway and then he'll drive his car over? >> Yeah. She would light. >> Yeah, we'll do that. Sounds like a plan. We'll >> stand up by the garage. Maybe this. >> Yeah. Stay a little dry. You didn't know where you were headed to. You just wanted out of the house, >> right? >> If you go back in the house, is there any disturbance? Good. >> Now, is there anywhere you could go to >> Sheriff's office? Hello. How you doing? >> How are you? >> Good to you. >> Good. >> Um, so your your daughter Nicole's outside. She's right here. Yeah. >> What what seems to be going on here? >> She's drunk and she's not supposed to be drinking here. >> Oh, okay. >> That was the condition that she come here. >> Okay. Hello. How you doing? I guess your dad. >> She's been mouththing off and trying to hit us and >> Yeah. Just ridiculous. So, I told her, "Do not open the door until you sober up." >> Okay. >> And if you're going to keep drinking, I'm not opening the door at all. You know, >> all right. Cuz it seem it seems like I don't know her normal state. So, it seems like she's a little, you know, a little slurring the m speech stuff like that. So, that that looks like it's >> consistent. She has a brain injury to begin with, right? >> Okay. She was a real >> Yeah, I see the the scar on her forehead. >> This one over here where she was drunk the other day and fell off her bike. >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> but the one here. Yeah. Her basically her brain came off the off the chel. >> Oh wow. >> In the car accident and she died like three times on a table and she had to go get learn how to walk 9 yards. So her so her brain does not accept help. >> No, she can't. that were alcoholics and she got that that you know >> and she's a little one here and it's her son but you know >> yeah he didn't >> and the thing is that um I dropped charges on her um for assault about a month ago she was in jail and I dropped those charges with the understanding if you came back here you were not drinking >> and we have a bag of little nips that we found in a room >> okay >> one done >> just a few how many She How many has she had today? >> Oh, no. I mean, it doesn't take much for her. You can take two little nips. >> Oh, really? >> She's gone. >> Is that from brain injury? Just >> doctors have told her that you, you know, for years. >> And it's not fair to her son to be seeing this >> nonsense, you know. I I would hate for him to see that as well. Fo. >> So, what I'm going to do since you told me this isn't her normal fac. How is she normally? Is she, you know, just normal like you normal person? Okay. Okay. A a slight you we might see a slight hesitation >> like stuttering or >> no just like when think in the thinking process. >> Okay. She overthinks things stays with her. >> Yeah. Because she she thinks her child is being she's not >> she did the same thing back in Connecticut where we where she lost her son her daughter and we were taking care of it. Next week she told him I was just like >> so my oldest sister now has >> her daughter. >> Your oldest daughter. So they came up to me that she was just lying in the whole 9 yard. >> It's just a they call it magical thinking. >> Okay. >> This is what the neurosurgeon told me. >> All right. I will we we'll evaluate her for a marchman act and if and if she's we we'll see where she's at there. Um has she ever had a history ofide or or want? >> I don't know. She's been saying that we're going to regret not opening the door. I have no idea. >> She had a knife on her. So is she a violent person? >> Well, she did tell him that she would pull it. She said, "I'll pull out pull the knife out on me." It didn't really become damaged, but I I'll cut you off. Okay. >> Cuz I I kept pushing her away cuz she kept, you know, hitting me and going, "Nick, >> just now today." Yeah. >> That's assault. I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to put up with this. Get out of here. Next thing she comes out with a knife. Oh my god. >> Okay. Did she come at you with it? >> No. She was just like where you're standing here and I'll cut you with this thing. >> Okay. >> It's the drunk. >> I don't want I don't want you sleeping and all of a sudden my throat is >> Yeah. And that's one of our concerns. Is is any of that uh recorded or or do you guys have I see you have a camera here. Do you guys have any cameras inside? >> No, we have that one there, but nothing inside. We had we had one at one time, but >> we do have them. We have Arlo, but they're outside. We haven't set them up yet. >> Okay. All right. >> Last time she did on her phone cuz I was across the street neighbors. >> I did video her video and I thought I'll never do this again. >> With this new information, I I'll actually evaluate her for Baker Act as well. um if if she's getting to the point where she's becoming violent, then then obviously we don't want to leave her here. Um and and the situation escalate cuz she already told us and she comes back in that there's going to be a disturbance. So, you know, there obviously I see you guys are a little a little bit past that in your in your lives. >> So, when we came down here, we bought a two a two-bedroom apartment just for the two of us and then I got pregnant up there and said, you know, I don't want to do it, but I was a foster kid and I'm not going to throw my grandson out. Yeah, I got you. >> We're not going to let him live like that. >> I got you. Okay. All right. Let me let me see what I can do for you guys. Um and then I'll let you I'll come back and let you guys know. Okay. Sounds good. Um do you mind hanging out with her and then I I'll just talk to you. >> Yeah. >> I love you. >> Huh? I love you, too. >> Hey, spread love. We just have to see where exactly if we're going to go Baker or um or Mark, but I I think I'm I'm looking more of a baker to be honest with you. Uh just with the TVI and all that. I don't know what's >> I don't have >> what's causing her to, you know, have this hostility towards her her parents, which is alcohol. It could very much be alcohol. And the only thing I don't want to do the Marchman Act side of it is because um she's, you know, being violent towards others. >> Yeah. >> Now, I think the wording with the Marchman Act, like how like how it says it on the forum, >> it's it's substance induced, correct? >> Substance induced. and that she's basically lost all self-control to where she's uh going to be a harm to herself. >> I don't know if it says or to others on there. We could read the criteria real quick if you want. Yeah. Substance abuse and because of such an parent has lost power of self-control and has inflicted, threatened or attempted to inflict or unless admitted is likely physical harm to themselves or another. Okay. or is in need of substance abuse services and by reason of substance abuse impairment their judgment has been so impaired that the person is un capable of understanding the need of such services. >> Okay. So we have to ask her if she's willing and then she's saying no I don't want to go then that's obviously shows that she's not in the right state of mind. She believes that her her and I guess she you know how she mentioned of theation of her child. Well, I guess up in Connecticut with the same gentleman here um with another child of hers, she got drunk and went to the police and said, "Hey, you know, I I think he's going to I think he's my child and whatnot." And they took her for her word. >> I think I've been out with her before. >> This is my first time dealing with her. >> All right, you ready for this one? >> Little fe >> I'm I'm almost positive. Um >> you much that Yeah. Watch this. Someone on Lake View was like, "Hey, there's a lady screaming for help." I could hear screaming coming from the road. Um, and I I heard her >> and this is the reason I said, "Hey, is your car locked?" Because I felt like I who was acting erratically and yelling. When I approached Nicole, she screamed that someone was after her. Uh, she then attempted to open my driver's side door of my patrol vehicle. >> And she stated she wanted to uh drive away. Um, she was detained, began resisting kicking the surrounding deputies and threatening to spit in their face. I had to grab her by I had to grab her by the hair and force her face up against the glass to prevent her on me. God damn. So, we'll see how this goes. She's one of those happy campers. So, um I just got a couple questions for you. Have you had anything to drink today? >> A little bit. >> Just a little bit. Okay. How much does alcohol affect you? Does it affect you a lot? Like I I I have zero tolerance. I don't drink often. So, when I get I drink a little bit of my wife's drink. I I'm tipsy. I'm in here for a good time, you know. So, how how does alcohol affect you? >> Uh, if I take like two sips, it's >> it's enough. >> Yeah. >> Okay. How much did you have today? >> Probably like one. >> Okay. Just one sip. You limited yourself? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, would you say you're at your complete normal faculties right now? >> Right now? >> Yes. >> Right now? Yeah. >> But if I took another drink, then I would say no. >> Okay. I I feel like your speech is a little a little slurred if you want to. If that's my opinion now, um would you say your your speech is a little slurred right now or do you feel like you're talking complete normal? >> I am pretty normal. >> You feel like you're pretty normal right now? >> Yeah. >> You I see you're wobbling a little. Is that normal for you, too? >> Yeah. I mean, >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Now, I was talking with your family inside and they told me a little bit of a scenario that happened inside before you came outside and I found you yelling and screaming over here. Can you explain kind of what happened inside? >> Well, I'm not really sure what you mean. >> Well, what happened that caused you to come outside that you you were so upset? >> Well, my family is angry >> about what? What got them angry? >> I was drunk. >> Okay. >> I'm here. >> Okay. Do you feel like you're drunk right now? I feel a little twitchy. >> Okay. Hey, nothing wrong with that. I mean, it's a Sunday, but there's nothing wrong with that. >> Okay. Now, what happened when when you were inside and they were angry? Would you guys get in a little argument? >> Yeah. So, I just left. >> Okay. Nothing. >> I don't like to argue with anyone. >> Okay. And that's a good thing as arguments usually cause bad things. They mentioned a little bit of a scenario with the knife. Does that ring any bells? >> I have a knife. >> Okay. Um, >> do you still have it? Yes. >> Okay. >> Oh, >> how many did you have? How many? >> Just one. Okay. >> Okay. We're We're Don't reach for one. >> It's on the side. >> It's on your side. >> Okay. Do you not recall that I grabbed that knife from you? Do you not remember that? Is it the little black one? >> Yes. >> Yeah. I I I already grabbed that from you. >> Okay. So, it do you not remember about me grabbing that? >> So, you have it. >> Okay. Do you forget things when you're a little tipsy? >> Yes, I do. I have brain injury. So, what >> Okay, I got you. They did tell me about that. And with that brain injury, it makes you a little bit more susceptible of getting a little bit more than tipsy with with alcohol. Okay. Would you say that you probably shouldn't be drinking alcohol because of your injury? >> Maybe. >> Maybe. Okay. Would you mind if I take you down somewhere to get you help today? >> What? >> Okay. Are you Oh, are you willing to go with me? >> Maybe. I don't want to go. >> You don't want to go? Well, I want to help you. Like I said, over there. >> I got you. Well, it doesn't sound like your family wants you to be here if you're if you're a little tipsy. So, and and I don't want you to be in this rain. It's about to start raining right now. So, I would like to take you somewhere where you can get a little bit of help so they can you can sober up and they'll you they'll be more than willing for you to come back once you sober up, but you got to sober up, obviously. Okay. Are you willing to go with me? Here, let let me help you. Okay. >> My family doesn't want me here. >> Well, not when you're not when you're tipsy, Nicole. >> That's crazy. Not when you're tips. Okay. >> Is that okay? >> Crazy bro. >> All right. Here. Put your hands together like you're praying. Okay. >> Just stay right there for me. >> They don't want me here. >> They They want you, but they want you sober here. Okay. >> When she was physical with him earlier with was that >> Yeah. >> This only happened just a little little ago. Dumb. >> Yeah, they're uh >> so dumb. >> Yeah, they're there. >> She's using my truck. >> We going march. >> Yeah, >> she's going to get my truck. >> No, we're we're we wouldn't allow that. We wouldn't allow that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm just I'm holding you with two hands just because I don't want you to fall. Okay. I'm also just going to pat you down real quick to make sure you don't have no no weapons on you cuz you're going to go in my buddy's car and I really He's a really good friend of mine. Okay. So, >> we're all friends here. All right. Just keep your stuff at home. >> Sure. >> Okay. Perfect. That works. >> All right. Go ahead and spread your feet. >> There you go. Perfect. All right. Just with the back of my hand. Okay. I'm just check checking for weapons. >> Okay. >> Nothing on your front or your waist? >> No. >> I'm I'm just going to lift up. I'm not going to touch. I'm just going to lift up and look. Okay. Perfect. All right. Let's walk over here to his car. >> Yeah. Anything in your brawl or anything like that? >> No. I I don't want to, but I just am asking. You can't. >> Is there Is your bra just folded here? >> Nothing. >> Touch me. >> I I don't want to. What's your opinion? Is this just a folded? >> No. Touch me. >> I think it's just a bra. >> Looks like it's the natural strap. >> Yeah. >> No. >> Where's your bike? >> Right. >> Where? >> In the garage. >> In the garage. >> Okay. Cuz your parents were concerned about your bike. It's in the garage. >> It's in the garage. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Watch your head, okay, when you go in. Perfect. Now you're strapped in, ready to go. The woman was charged with fugitive from justice and battery on a person 65 years or older.