Okay. And >> so I'm asking you to identify yourself by providing me with my identification. >> I can provide you with my name. >> It's a requirement. >> You want me to listen cuz you're not listening to me. I'm trying to tell you so we can deescalate the situation. You know what I'm saying? [Music] >> Nice. Open my window. >> Nope. Nope. Don't reach. >> Sovereign citizens like to think they're untouchable and think that they have the ultimate knowledge of the law. They find themselves spending their lives living in this delusion. But what really happens when they try to correct the police, but face reality instead? >> I did not commit a crime, so I don't I do not need to be detained. This is an illegal detainment. >> Step out of your vehicle. >> I did not commit a crime. >> Okay, Andrew. I >> You can't do that to me. You guys have weapons and I don't feel safe in my life. Don't >> do not commit a >> Here are several but rare satisfying moments when sovereign citizens try to correct the police and it backfired in real time. Starting with Sarah, whose attempt to school the cops with online articles about her sovereign citizenship privileges ended with her behind bars over an ordinary traffic stop. >> Here's some stuff that you can >> I'm not reading that council immunity. Nope, I'm not reading that. I'm asking you nicely to please step out. >> What? Why do you mean? >> Because you're not listening to what I say during the traffic stop. Step back here. >> Give me your my car. Will you let me go? >> Nope. We're past that point. Okay. >> An officer in Iowa pulled over a Toyota RAV 4 after spotting it with no plates. But things quickly spiraled when the driver claimed she wasn't a citizen and then decided to lecture an officer of the very country she was visiting on how to do his job. Bill plates on a white Toyota Route 4 pulling into Cedar Falls Gun Club. Offseer Wapsy. [Music] >> Hello. Thanks for pulling over. Uh, what plate is that on the vehicle? Are you from the States or is that a Canada plate? >> No, I'm not from the States. >> Oh, you're from Canada? >> Mhm. Okay. Okay. Do you see your license? >> No. >> Do you have a driver? >> I'm not in commerce, so therefore I don't have a license for you. >> Oh. Oh, here. Just one second. I'm going to look at the plate. Okay. So, do you are you a member of the United Are you citizen of the United States? >> No. >> You're not? Okay. What? What country? >> Uh, I belong to the um Amnesty Coalition. >> Okay. Where's that? >> Where is it at? Um, it's >> it's >> part of I can't forget the nation. >> It's part of the Picklearian Nation. >> Okay. Where where's your address at? Do you live here like in the local area? >> No, I don't. >> Okay. Do you have anything with your ID or anything like that? >> Um, I have no [Music] Okay. A passport card. Cool. Uh, can I see that, ma'am? >> No. >> Okay. Just one second. 7 North 53. >> Can I get another car? Possible sovereign citizen code for right now. I'm on the west side of the Cedar Valley Gun Club 37 that way. >> Okay. So, the reason why I stopped you 67 and a 55. Did you know that you were going that fast? Okay. Yep. I got you on radar going 67 and a 55 mph. Where you coming from? >> Um, I was just from my sister's house. >> Okay, cool. Do you live there full time or no? >> No. >> Okay. So, you are in the state of Iowa. Do you know that? >> H. >> You are in the state of Iowa. Do you know that? >> Mhm. >> And driving is a privilege. Where's the car registered out of? >> I don't know. >> What state's the car registered out of? It isn't registered. >> It's not registered. Okay. Did you know that it needs to be otherwise it can be towed? >> Oh, I thought it isn't private property. >> So, is the car owned by a business? >> No. >> Okay. It's not owned by a business. So, it's privately owned. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Which means it does need to be registered in the state of Iowa. >> The officer began explaining how things will proceed. But just as he had correctly told dispatch he was dealing with a sovereign citizen, she set out to live up to that title in a way he never saw coming. >> Okay. So, can you provide me that passport card with your right name on it, please? >> I'll let you look at it, but I'm not going to like >> You don't have a driver's license? >> You don't have a driver's license? No. >> Okay. Have you ever been pulled over before? >> Yes. >> Okay. It's okay. Take a deep breath. There's nothing to be nervous about. I'm just trying to explain you the laws. Okay. So, you are in the state of Iowa. You are on a traffic stop. I have probable cause to pull you over for going 67 and a 55, which is 12 mph over the speed limit. Okay. >> All right. During the during the duration of the traffic stop, you have to abide by anything a peace officer says. I am a deputy sheriff, a peace officer in the state of Iowa. Okay. >> So, you do have to provide you do have to go along with whatever I say. Okay. >> Okay. Can I please have that passport card to confirm your identity? I already showed it to you. >> Can you pull it back out and can I take a look at it, please? >> It's in there. >> Do you have insurance on the vehicle, ma'am? And I see you're covering your name. Is there a reason for that? >> Mhm. >> Okay. I see Minnesota. What? How come you don't want to show me your name? >> Cuz I don't want to. >> Okay, that's fine. Do you have insurance on the car? >> Yes, >> you do. Can I see the insurance card? Do you have any weapons inside the vehicle? Any bombs, guns, IEDs? No pipe bombs. What about any illegal substances? Nothing like that. Okay, >> that's okay. That's not a big deal. That's just a citation. >> What? What' you say? I couldn't hear you. >> It looks like it's been cancelled. >> Okay, so no insurance will deal. That's all right. Not a big deal. All right, back to the ID and you. I do need your name and date of birth. Will you provide that to me? >> Okay, why not? >> Can you shut off the car? You're making me nervous. Thank you. Okay, once again, you are on a traffic stop. I explained the reason why I stopped you. You also don't have a seat belt on. >> You need to stop. >> Okay, I'll take your word for that one. Still, I still have probable cause to pull you over. You do need to identify yourself. and you left 085. >> I do. >> What is your name? >> Edwards. >> Do you have a driver's license in the state of Iowa? >> No. >> Okay. What about Minnesota? >> No. >> You don't? Do you have a driver's license at all? >> No. >> Do you have any warrants for your arrest? >> No. >> You need to identify yourself. >> Show me who I am. >> Can you pull that back out? I only saw the passport card. >> I didn't get a name or data. So you sold that it was me >> cuz I don't have to. >> Yes, you do. Under the state of Iowa [Applause] 7 or 53. She's being uncooperative. Can you have 37 step it up? >> All right. >> Yep. Wagner and go ahead and start 44, please. >> Can you step out of the vehicle? >> You're not identifying yourself on the traffic stop. >> Okay. You do need to identify yourself on the traffic stop. At this time, I'm asking you to listen to me and step out of the vehicle, which I told you during the traffic stop in the state of Iowa, which I have probable cause for. You have to listen to anything a peace officers tells you to do during the duration of the traffic stop. Please step out. >> Do you know have you looked up to diplomatic law? >> Despite the officer's best attempts to identify her, she clung to her misguided understanding of the law. an approach that was about to backfire badly. >> I'm telling you about the state of Iowa. We are in the state of Iowa right now. Blackhawk County. >> Can you tell me your name? [Applause] Have you ever been arrested before? >> Mm-m. >> Okay. I'm telling you, if you don't stop cooperating, you will be placed under arrest. Can you tell me your name? Why do you want my name? >> Because like I said, you were speeding. I need your name. >> Here's some stuff that you can read. >> I'm not reading that counselor identity. >> Nope. I'm not reading that. Like I said, you're on a traffic stop. I'm a peace officer in the state of Iowa. Can you please provide your identification? >> What's that? >> Yes, you are detained. Once you pulled over and I pulled by you with my red and blue lights on, that's detained. You hit your brakes once you drove by me, which also know let me know that you saw me and you were speeding to slow down. All right, can you step out, please? [Applause] Any weapons? >> All right, there's another officer coming right now. I'm asking you nicely to please step out. What? Why do you mean? >> Because you're not listening to what I say during the traffic stop. Can you step out and turn around and place your hands behind your back? >> Ma'am, I would highly suggest you work with me here. I'm trying to be nice and do everything I can for you and explain everything. I need you to give me I need you to meet me halfway. What's that? >> What are you going to do? >> I'm going to identify you. You're not I'm going to place you under arrest unless you tell me your name. My name is Sarah. >> Sarah. Okay. Can you please hand me your passport card? >> What are you going to do with it? >> I'm going to check your information. >> I'm sorry. >> I will let you look at it. >> Can you step out of the car? >> Can you step out of the car? All right. She's just now showing me her passport. Her passport card. >> Okay. >> Um hasn't been listening throughout the traffic stop. Um I opened the door a little bit ago. She's been refusing to get out of the vehicle. Okay. >> So, she's going to be placed under arrest. >> All right. >> All right. Can you please step out? >> Ma'am, you are under arrest at this time for interference with official acts. Step out of the vehicle, please, or force will be used to gain compliance. >> Why do you want to play my under? >> Like I said, >> with this new turn of events, Sarah still clung to her unshakable faith in whatever it was that she had read online. But these officers seemed more than ready to steer her back into the real world. >> Said, "This is the last time I'm telling you. 67 and a 55. That was a probable cause to pull over. You hit your brakes as soon as you passed me. You pulled in here. I pulled in behind you. A red and blue lights identified that you're on a traffic stop. You have been uncooperative throughout the duration. You haven't answered any questions. I've told you I'm a certified peace officer in the state of Iowa. You need to abide by what I say during the duration of the traffic stop. Please step out. [Applause] Face away from me and put your hands behind your back. Face away from me. Hands behind your back. Do you have anything on your person that's going to poke or stick us if we search you? >> No needles, knives, nothing like that. >> All right. I'm I'm sure I can search. >> What's that? >> Do you have a search warrant to search me? >> We don't need custody. You'll be going to the jail where you're being searched. >> I don't need a search warrant search when you go into a facility. >> I just double lock these and check them for tightness. Okay. They're not going to sink up on you. >> Step back here. Give me your my cart. Will you let me go? >> Nope. We're past that point. Okay. >> Can I roll my window back up? >> No, we'll take care of that. Can you look right there? >> No, I got >> those ones. Okay, perfect. I'll roll your window up here. Is there a preference you have on a vehicle? Any company? >> I don't want anybody to tow my vehicle. >> Oh, it's getting towed. >> It's It's being towed. >> I'm I'm not leaving on private property. >> You pulled in here during the traffic stop. It It can't be sitting here blocking the drive here. Okay. Private property. So, I do have to have it towed. Do you have a preference on which company? >> No, I don't want it to. >> Okay. I can >> I'll cooperate if you just let me. >> We're past that point. >> I was nice the entire time we waited for the other officer to arrive. Out of my car. There's a red and green light. There's a dash cam recording. Okay. I'm going to check your pockets and make sure you don't have any weapons on you. All right. Do you have anything anything you need to tell me about that's illegal? >> If you do have someone we get to the jail, it's a felony on top of the possession charge. So, if you have anything illegal that you're not supposed to have, you need to tell us now so we can get it and we'll go from there. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> That's just essential. >> Okay. >> Where'd you put your phone? >> Here. Turn this way. Turn left. >> Your passport was in there. You did put that back. >> She has a Iowa passport card. >> Iowa passport card. >> Didn't say anything where she lives or anything. >> All right. I'm just going to unzip your jacket here quick. All right. Can you just spin around quick? I'm just going to lift up the back of your jack and let you go. Having anything? >> Yep. She's got one. I can tell it's clear. >> All right. I'm going to run up. My hands on your legs. Okay. Just stand still. >> All right. >> Come back here with me. We're going to go to the passenger side of the vehicle. >> Can I have my water bottle? >> Uh, water will be provided to you at the jail. We're not going to bring that in the back of my car. One sec this door. Good. It's easier to sit first. All right. 373. >> All right. I'm going to shut the door. Watch your knees. >> She was taken to jail by an officer who could not hide his surprise. But before booking her, he even tried to do her a favor right there in the jail's parking lot. >> All right. So, you've been just mildly uncooperative, but I appreciate you being compliant. Okay. Um, right now, obviously, you have interference with official acts and drive while license suspended. Looking here, I don't know if you had those plates on there and you weren't cooperating because you're just suspended and you're scared of driving, get pulled over, but >> the that's not a serious charge. Driver license suspended. It is an arrestable offense, but it's usually just a summon to appear a ticket for, >> so it's not that big of a deal. >> Um, my best recommendation is get through these charges. Um, show up to all your court dates, pay your fines, and then get your driver's license back and insurance on vehicle and register it again. [Music] Um, like I already talked about and the other deputy mentioned it. Um, before we go in here, do you have anything on you that's illegal? Once you bring it inside through this garage door, it's a felony. >> Not that I don't know what I have. >> Okay. Thank you. >> In the end, he was charged with failure to comply with the lawful order and obstructing a law enforcement officer. While Sarah got exactly what was coming to her, she was no match for Andrew, an unrepentant sovereign citizen who thought he could out talk the cops with recycled courtroom jargon. >> I'm a sovereign American working. I don't I'm a I travel freely on the roadway in my private automobile. >> Okay, Andrew. >> That's what I do. >> No fail to identify myself. I gave you a piece of paper with my name on it and I told you my name is Andrew. >> Andrew, you can't do that to me. You guys have I don't feel safe in my life. >> Andrew, exit the vehicle. Now, >> on May the 28th, 2023, during an evening patrol in Wanachi, Washington, police officers pulled over a vehicle after spotting a clear traffic violation. At first, everything seemed routine. But the moment the officers asked for identification, the driver's mood shifted. And in that fateful moment, what should have been a simple stop took an unnecessary but avoidable dimension. >> You can leave, ma'am. >> So, >> can I see your driver's license? >> I have a driver's license. We just came from our house. >> Okay. Do you have any form of ID on you, sir? >> Okay. Registration, insurance. >> Are you the registered owner? >> That's my insurance company. >> That's my registration. >> Are you the registered owner? >> No. >> What's your name, sir? >> Huh? >> What's your name? >> What's your name? >> Right here. >> Where? Arz. >> Mhm. What's your first name? >> Right here. >> Did I commit a crime? >> I told you to commit a traffic violation. >> That is not a crime where I come from. I work in common law. >> Okay. >> I don't I do not fall under your guys' jurisdiction. See that flag on your arm? It's gold French. I don't play you like that. >> Okay. >> I'm I'm a sovereign American. >> Are you thrown to identify yourself, sir? >> No, I'm not identify my name Andrew. >> You never told me your name, sir. >> So, my name is Andrew. On my piece of paper I did right there. This one. This is says Brian Harris >> right here. Andrew, >> can I see that, please? >> Yeah, you can. >> I did not commit a crime, so I don't I do not need to be detained. This is an illegal detainment, right? >> There's no name on here for Andrew. >> Okay. >> What's your date of birth, sir? >> My date of birth is not important because I did not commit a crime. Why am I being interrogated? The tension was getting thicker, fueled by his distorted view of how the officer should do her job. But what he failed to see was how his stubbornness was turning a routine stop into something far more dangerous inch by inch. >> Interrogating me, sir. >> Yes. I should not be This is extortion. >> You can argue all you want. >> Well, >> are you going to identify yourself? >> I don't think I need to. I did. I told you my name's Andrew and I gave you a piece of paper. >> What's your last name? >> I gave you a piece of paper with my name on it. >> What's your last name, Andrew? Why am I being Why am I committing a crime? >> I want to know if I committed a crime. >> It's Well, if you're failing to identify yourself, yes, >> I'm failing to identify myself because I gave you a piece of paper with my name on it. If you don't read it, that's your own fault. >> What's your date of birth? >> I do not have to answer any questions and I don't answer any questions because I'm not doing that. Okay? I don't answer questions, right? I just don't answer questions. I did not fail to identify myself. It's my identification is right there. >> Go. >> Okay. So, I did not commit a crime on these highways. That is not a brake light. That is is a ticketable offense. That's a secondary offense. You can't pull me over for a light. We're in Washington. >> That's a secondary offense. >> Do you have a valid driver's license in Washington? >> I don't know. >> You don't know? >> No, I don't know. >> So, is that a no? >> I don't know. That's what I said. I don't know. >> Okay. Do you want to identify yourself last chance? Yes or no? >> I told you I'm a sovereign American working. I don't I'm a I travel freely on the roadway in my private automobile. >> Okay, Andrew. That's what I do. >> You still got to identify yourself. That's the law. >> I did not commit a crime. >> You are if you're failing to identify yourself. >> Failed to identify myself. I gave my information. >> Tell me. >> I do not need to answer questions. >> I did not commit a crime. >> Check for address associated to the vehicle. >> So, I did not commit a crime. >> So, would you rather go out in handcuffs? >> I'm not going to go out handcuffed because I didn't commit a crime. >> While the officers had been nothing but civil with Andrew, he mistook their calm for weakness. A rookie mistake. What he didn't realize was just because they weren't barking didn't mean they wouldn't bite or stink. >> Okay. At this point, you're failing to identify yourself. >> Fail to identify myself. I gave you a piece of paper with my name on it and I told you my name is Andrew. >> That's identification. >> You're not telling me your last >> I don't need to answer those questions because I gave you the information. >> Step out of your vehicle. >> I did not commit a crime. >> Step out of your vehicle. >> I did not commit a crime. >> Okay, Andrew. >> You can't do that to me. You guys have weapons and I don't feel safe for my life. >> Andrew, exit the vehicle. unsafe for my life right now. Unsafe for my life right now or force will be used. >> Unsafe for my life now or force will be used. >> I didn't commit a crime. >> You are under arrest. Exit the vehicle. >> I did not commit a crime. What did I do? >> I did not commit a crime. You guys have weapons. Force will be used. >> I'm in fear of my life. I'm in fear of my life right now. >> I'm in fear for my life right now. >> What are you in fear of, sir? >> I'm in fear because you guys have haunted weapons. You're here with auto weapons. I can't defend myself. All you need to do is follow instructions. Sir, >> I did not commit a crime. >> All you need to do is follow instruction. I gave her my information. There's no reason. >> You are under arrest. Exit the vehicle. I didn't do anything wrong. >> You're under arrest. Exit the vehicle. >> I did not do anything wrong. >> You do not comply. Force will be used, sir. >> You can't use force. I didn't do anything wrong. >> You're under arrest. >> What did I do wrong? >> She's already explained. >> I want to know what I'm under arrest for. >> Failure to identify yourself, sir. >> I did not fail to identify myself. You were here. >> You were not here. I came for my information. Sir, you need to exit the vehicle now. >> No, I did not. Hey, I'm not doing anything because I did not not commit a crime. Help. Help. >> At this point, the officers adopted a more restrained approach to cool things down. But Andrew's courtroom theatrics and parking lot legal jargon only delayed the inevitable. He could either comply or face a shocking dose of legal reality. >> Exit the vehicle. >> You guys, not with loaded weapons. I'm in fear of my life. I'm in fear for my life because of you guys. You have loaded weapons and you're out here afraid to point them at me. I'm not getting off of my life, >> sir. You're under arrest. >> I'm fear for my life and I'm I didn't do anything wrong. >> I need to exit the vehicle, sir. >> Sir, I did not do anything wrong. You guys, I'm going to do a torch claim and get your bond. Don't >> do not do that. I didn't commit a crime. >> I didn't commit a crime. You're >> under arrest. >> I did not commit a crime. >> You're under arrest, sir. >> No. That's freaking entering into my car. I cannot commit a crime. Knock it off. >> Don't do not commit a You >> get your arms out. Get your arms out again. >> Get your arms out. >> Hey, I got I got right arm. Work on that. >> Motorcycle. >> All right. Right arm is secure. We just need to get on. Take your arm out. >> Take your arm. >> I can't. >> Okay. Hey, we need one person. We need one person to cuff. >> Let go of my finger, Andrew. I will break your wrist. >> Do not grab my finger again. >> Start on the easy one. That's right there. I got his arm is not going anywhere. >> Take a breath here. This one. Nasty. I have injuries from a motorcycle accident. >> You guys are damn it. >> That's my hand. That's my hand. >> You need to stop grabbing my hand. Andrew, >> help. >> Pat him down. >> Pat him down. >> Andrew, >> help. >> We're going to put you in a recovery position so you can breathe. Okay. >> Are you going to continue to cooperate? Oh. Oh, you guys me up. >> Tuck your knees up by your chest. >> Don't hit me with that thing again, please. >> Then talk your knees up to your chest. >> Then relax. >> I have injuries from a motorcycle accident right there. >> Then tuck your >> You were given comply. You chose not to, sir. >> Relax. Roll. >> I already priority. >> Um, hey, where are the probes? so I can document them. And then >> it's on that side. >> Yeah, they're on the other side. >> They're on the left side. >> Just leave it. You really shouldn't. >> Um, why don't you go get cleaned up, Sergeant? Pressure on him. >> Oh my god. My head. >> I can't hear you. >> Go grab a kit. >> Yeah. >> I had a fractured skull when you guys just slam me on the hungry. Wait, >> I did not do anything wrong. You guys, you're under arrest. >> In the end, he was charged with resisting arrest and obstructing a law enforcement officer. Next is Jonathan, whose misguided sovereign belief didn't just cost him an argument, but also his car window. >> If if that's where if we're going to be, you know, if you're going to be an ass at the same time. >> Who? Who? Me or you? >> I didn't say I was refusing. I >> All right. So, you know what? Moving on. What you got to do? [Music] >> Nice. >> I can't I can't turn. I need you to >> All right. You're about to pull me out. >> During an evening patrol in Connecticut, a police officer pulled over a vehicle after the driver had broken a few traffic laws. The routine traffic stop quickly developed into a heated legal debate. But this sovereign citizen just didn't know when to stop pushing his luck. This window right here doesn't roll down. Stop. [Music] >> Telling me to move up a little bit. >> Yeah. Right. Let me turn it off. >> You said it doesn't work. >> No. Um, this window doesn't roll down. >> You want to unlock it? >> Why? >> Lock the door. >> Four. >> So I can talk. I I can speak to you. Come this way. If you're not, I can just pull into the >> Do me a favor. Just unlock the door pocket. >> I'm not going to open my door. >> Okay. Give me Let me get your driver license. >> I'm not I'm not using the road as any commercial capacity. >> Go, dude. I'm not going to argue with >> I'm not arguing with you either. I'm I'm letting you know. I am not >> I'm letting you know. Okay. You are driving on a Connecticut road. >> Okay. >> I need to have your driver's license. >> I'm That means I'm not I'm not I'm not for hire. I'm not using the roads for any commercial capacity. I'm letting you know. >> Listen, I understand. >> I'm recording as well. I just let you know my hands are up. >> You have no problem with that. Okay. But what I need you to do, you're operating motor vehicle. >> I'm I'm traveling. So, >> it's the same as driving. >> No, it's not. It's different. >> Is the vehicle moving? >> I am traveling. >> Is the vehicle moving? >> Be in motion. Yeah. >> Okay. So, when you're operating or vehicles in motion on a Connecticut road or >> US DOT highway, it is a requirement that the vehicle be registered and insured and when you're stopped to identify your site. is a requirement on the state in Connecticut cross. >> I understand that but I'm telling you I'm not using >> our state on our road whether you're traveling or not. >> It's your state >> the state of Connecticut. I represent the state of Connecticut agent of the government. >> Okay. >> You are traveling on our road. >> Okay. >> Okay. So it's the state government owned road. >> Mhm. >> The law is if you are on our road, a stateowned road, you have to identify yourself if you're stopped by a police officer. >> Okay. Got it. The officer's explanation was simple enough, and even a donkey would have gotten the memo. But this driver was hellbent on rewriting the rules. He forgot one thing. The law does not play favorites. Like the blindfolded lady outside every courthouse, it didn't care about anyone's feelings, theories, or you two law degree. >> Okay. And >> so I'm asking you to identify yourself by providing me with an identification code. >> I can provide you with my name. >> I need you to provide me with the identification code. It's this is me. This is me. It's a requirement. >> You want me to listen, but you're not listening to me. I'm trying to tell you so we can deescalate the situation. You know what I'm saying? >> I'm not yelling at you when I'm talking to people. Okay. It's a requirement that you have a you need a card on you while you're operating, traveling, or whatever in a state of Connecticut. >> So whether it has driver's license in this state, another state, it's a requirement whether you're traveling, operating, whatever you want to call it, that you have that on your possession. one you are right traveling on our roads and then at that point if you are stopped it's a requirement that you provide that to the law enforcement officer >> I understand those things >> so can I have that card please >> but that's telling me I'm using these roads as for business and I'm not >> I'm I'm saying business today >> but you're you're putting me into the subject of commerce and I'm not doing any of those things >> again it's regardless of anybody that is on our state roads at that point it is requirement that you provide me with an identification card >> I Can't do that, sir, because I'm not using >> Okay. So, you can go have one. >> I'm not I'm not saying I don't have one. I rescended my application for my driver's license. >> Okay. >> And I'm not using >> This is what I want to say to you. So, I'm willing to work with you. Okay. You're making it harder. >> I'm I'm not trying I'm I'm honestly >> This is This is interfering with my investigation. >> Investigation of what? Am I committing a crime? >> I'm I'm Am I committing a crime? That's I'm just trying to understand >> point. You are. Yeah. >> A crime of what? You're interfering for failure to provide me with an operator license. >> But I'm telling you, I'm not doing commerce. I'm not >> Does this vehicle have a valid insurance policy? >> I'm not using a road. >> It doesn't matter. You're traveling on a state. >> I'd like to reserve all my rights. >> Listen to me. It is a requirement while traveling on a state road that has a valid insurance card and it has a valid registration. So yes, I am completing an investigation with reference to those two points. You are now refusing to provide me with a driver's license that's interfering with my investigation. Okay? >> I'm not trying to interfere. >> I don't I don't want you right or anything like that. What I need you to do is provide me with that card and then we can move on. >> I reserve all my rights. >> Okay. So either way, sir, I'm not going away. So until you provide me with that information, there's nothing else I can do to help you. >> Am I being detained? Any traffic stop for me presence of a law enforcement officer in the state of Connecticut. >> Okay. Can you So, can you read me my rights, please? >> I'm not placing you under arrest. So, no. Case law states that I do not have to read your rights on entertainment or traffic stop. >> Okay. But I am not using the roads for any gains of for hire. >> You say that over and over and over as much as you want to say it, but regardless of what you're telling me, it's not true. >> It's not true. So, the law is not true. So, you talking about >> is true. And that's what I just told you. >> You told me statutory law. I'm telling you constitution. I have the life. I have the liberty and pursuit of happiness. I'm not arguing with either. So I I said I reserve my rights. I'm exercising my fourth and my fifth amendment. >> All right. So let's roll this window back down and let's work through this together. >> I I can hear you. I I don't I don't feel safe. I don't feel comfortable. >> I'm a law enforcement officer. I'm here to protect you. The public not actually not here to give you a hard time. >> Okay. But I what I can tell you is I am completing an investigation and I'm asking you nicely. Okay? I'm not yelling at you. I'm not demanding you put your hands up. I'm not I'm just asking you for a simple part. >> I I I can give you my name. I can give you my name and my address. >> What's your first name? >> My first name is John. Oh, okay. >> I give you my name. >> Jonathan. >> Is this your vehicle? >> This belongs to me. It's private property. >> Is that >> It belongs to me. It's private property. >> Regardless, it's private property. Not yours. Now he says regardless of private it belongs to me. >> I'm not giving you a hard time. I'm just trying to work with you. >> I'm I'm I'm >> What was your name? I didn't get your name. I'm sorry about that. >> I told you it's Kobe. My first name is Jonathan as well. >> Jonathan Kobe. Badge number >> 65. >> His little schemes to frustrate the trooper weren't getting him anywhere. But instead of giving up, he decided to toss more fuel on the fire while forgetting one tiny detail. He wasn't immune to the law. >> This is nothing that like >> you ask for that. give you all that information, but I still have that job to do. >> I'm I'm letting I'm pieces. >> Yeah, I understand that. I get I identified. So, you did identify yourself. I'm asking you if you have a driver's license in the state of Connecticut. >> But I'm not I'm not using this as a commercial capacity. That's what I'm trying to tell you. >> I'm asking you now is I'm going to ask you to keep the vehicle off and remain in the driver's seat and not get out. >> Perfect. That's fine. That's perfect. Another car pulled up in front of me. >> All right. So, I'm going to ask you to roll the window down. Okay. I would have to turn on the vehicle. >> Traveling. He just sold his partner. I'm traveling. >> Do you have a driver's license? >> I I just told you I reserve I reserve my rights. >> What's that? >> He trying to open my door. I said I reserve all my rights. If they're going to deprive me of my rights under 18 242, then so be it. >> Hey, what's going on, man? >> Doing good, sir. What's your name? No, I said doing good. >> Doing good. >> Yeah. What's your name? >> My name? >> Yeah. McGrath. >> MC McGrath. Okay. Badge number. >> Badge number. >> Sorry, a little hard to hear. >> No. Badge number. Sorry about that. >> 123. >> 123. >> Easy. >> 0390. >> I'm not running anywhere. I don't know why he trying to block me in. You block me. I'm not running nowhere. I have nothing. >> I'm I'm sorry. It's a little hard to hear you. >> No, nothing. >> Okay. >> Can't say nothing. >> What uh what did he get stop for? >> I don't know. >> I asked. >> He didn't He didn't even tell me. He just asked me for my identification. Okay. >> Did you uh did you give over your your paperwork like your license registration? >> I'm not using the roads as anything for commerce. I'm not for hire. >> I I can't hear you. >> No, I'm saying I'm not using the roads for any kind of hire. I'm not using it. I'm not gaining any profit. I'm not for hire. I'm just traveling. That's all I'm doing. >> What's not for hire? >> No, you're trying to subject me to saying I'm doing something in a commercial capacity if I have a commercial driver license. I'm not using the road in that way. commercial driver's license. >> I'm not using that. I'm not using the road in that way. And I I expressed to him that I'm I'm just merely just traveling. I reserve my rights. I said under the excess of my fourth and fifth amendment. And I asked him if if I'm being pulled over and I'm arrested, I'm being detained. If you could read me my rights and that would be okay. >> That's all I don't need to read you your Miranda rights for a traffic stop. >> Okay. Am I being convicted of a crime? That's why he didn't articulate that. So, I'm just trying to find what what was his probable cause. >> Trying to just get more. >> Yeah. I'm just trying to understand what's going on and I'm trying to deescalate the situation. That's all. >> I get it. >> I got three officers on me. >> What's going on tonight, man? How you doing? >> Doing good. You >> all right? Not bad. Not bad. You know the reason why we stopped you? >> I was trying to find that out. >> Okay. So, the reason why the trooper stopped you, um, >> the registration on the vehicle doesn't match the car that it's on. Yeah. So, with that being said, this vehicle is not for >> This is private property. This is my vehicle. >> Okay. Are you traveling on state roads? >> I'm traveling. Yes, I'm traveling. >> Did you fill up this vehicle with fuel? >> Well, what does you interact in commerce by using fuel to fill this vehicle or did you put vegetable oil from your house in it? >> Probably vegetable oil from the house. If if that's where if we're going to be, you know, if you're going to be an ass at the same time. >> Who? Who? Me or you? The backup officers rolled in, making it clear they weren't here for roadside courtroom drama. But this sovereign citizen's blind faith in imaginary legal loopholes kept fanning the flames. And when impatience meets stubbornness, chaos is inevitable. >> I'm not I'm not I'm just exercising my rights. I'm trying to tell you that. And I'm not trying to do anything. >> Uhhuh. I >> I reserve all my rights. I exercise my fourth and fifth amendment. >> All of that. That's perfectly fine. The problem we have tonight is the registration on this vehicle doesn't match. Okay. So, we don't know if the vehicle's stolen or not. >> The vehicle is not stolen. I told you that. >> We just got to figure all that out. >> The vehicle's not stolen. >> You understand though? That that's what we got to figure out, right? >> All right. Conduct your invest. >> Do you have any paperwork with the vehicle? >> I have everything for this vehicle. This vehicle belongs to me. >> Yeah. If you could provide that, that would be fantastic. >> Provide what exactly? >> Registration and proof of insurance. >> This I just told you that this car belongs to me. It's private property. >> Correct. I understand that. >> No insurance either. private property, but you're on public and state property while driving it >> in vehicular use. Anyone can use it if you're not engaging in commerce. >> You are engaging in commerce cuz you filled the vehicle up with fuel. >> Did you not? Or you >> That doesn't make any sense. But >> how does that doesn't make any sense? >> Okay. Well, we have a tow truck coming to tow your private property. Okay. >> Well, that's not Okay, that's not going to happen. >> The car. >> Sean, can I get my rights read to me, please? >> Say it again. >> Can I read me my rights? >> I don't need to read your rights. Can you read me my rights? >> You already brought to take something that doesn't belong to the state of Connecticut. >> I'm trying to work with you here. Okay. The information that you provided me, I don't can't find anything. Okay. You're not working with me. >> I am. I gave you I identified as you asked for. >> Okay. You identified as whatever, but I don't have a valid driver's license. >> Identify as I can say >> who you are. >> And that's what I need. >> I gave you what you needed. >> This is going to turn into something I don't want it to turn into. There's no reason for it. You have every right to believe whatever you want to believe >> because it's the law is con is not the law. >> Okay. So, this stay right here. I'll be right back. >> Okay. I got one, two, three, four, five cops here because I'm I'm obviously doing something that is unconstitutional. It's crazy. >> I'm not sure if he ran it yet. Yeah, >> I don't don't put me in any sovereign citizen things. That's not what I am in doing. It's not sovereign citizen. That's terroristic group. I don't have nothing to do with that. >> Despite the growing tension, he stuck to his game plan. Even prompting the police supervisor to step in and try to talk some sense into him. But if words were the cure, he'd be healed by now. For the look of things, perhaps he needed a different kind of motivation. Or maybe he had his own agenda all along. >> He's got it taped. Oh, okay. >> It doesn't belong to the state of Connecticut. It's private property. >> Sir, is there a reason why you have the VIN taped over? >> I don't answer questions. >> You don't answer questions. Okay. >> Hey, partner. I'm the supervisor. >> Yeah, supervisor. >> So, Donis, >> Donis, badge number. >> Don, so listen. This is the deal. They have a lawful reason to pull you over. They have a lawful reason to pull you out of the vehicle. We're trying to avoid that. We could. It's okay. By all means, we have to do what we got to do. I understand you got your your in your notions, whatever they may be. So, I mean, I don't know what they are. You know what I'm saying? But right now, the cars and misuse is going to get towed. The other thing you have is that they're asking you right now give you a lawful order to step out of the vehicle. With that said and done, >> am I all right? Yeah, I'm listening. I'm listening. I'm sorry. >> No, it's okay. Um, if you have something to say, just you like you said, you can interject. I have no problem with that. M. So right now they are giving you an offer order because the vehicle is a misuse. Basically they can't identify you cuz I guess do you have any identification? >> I I gave I gave him my name. I gave him everything. >> Okay. Do you have anything with a photograph? That's what I'm saying. >> No, I don't at this moment. >> Okay. So they need to further investigate find out who you really are. That's number one. Number two, the vehicle seems to have issues with the registration. Okay. So with that said alone, that that alone, you're looking at a misuse of of a plate >> or did it have a plate? Does it have a plate? >> Misuse. So, whatever plate was on this vehicle. >> Okay. >> Oh, it is on this vehicle. >> Did he already take it off? >> Huh? >> Did he already take it off? >> Um, eventually they will. >> No, I'm asking cuz you said if he's there, I don't know if he took it or anything. >> The plate. No, the plate is there, but I didn't I didn't notice the plate when I was walking up. So, with that said and done, the fact that the plate is not that that the plate does not belong to the vehicle. >> That right there, it's their probable cause to pull you over. >> Okay. >> All right. So, with that said and done, whatever it is that they need and they're trying to identify you just to move this along, just help them out just so we don't have to escalate this. I'll be honest with you, as a supervisor, I don't want this to be escalated. >> Me neither. That's I I ident you know, I actually gave him my name. I gave him my name and date of birth. >> Where you from originally? >> I'm originally from New York. >> From New York. From from New York City upstate where? >> No. >> Bronx, I guess. Did you ever have an identification or a driver's license with New York? >> I have one with but I rescended it. But Connecticut, I rescended my driver's license. That's what I'm trying to say. >> Okay. What you going to rescend it? You just gave it back up. >> Yeah. I >> Why would I give him my right to drive? It's free. >> Okay. >> But that, you know, I'm I'm being telling you I'm being respectful. It may sound crazy to you, but the DMV took my my recent driver's license. I'm not using the roads. And why would I register my vehicle if I'm not using? >> You didn't have a license at one time. >> That's what I told him. According according to according to the state, not against you, not not not according to you, but according to the state, you had a license. You gave it back up because you don't feel you have the right that hey, I I have the right to drive. >> I have the life liberty pursuit of happiness. I already and I there there's a lot of doctrines on this. There's a lot of >> But you understand that I understand your rights. You got your rights. It is what it is, right? And it is what it not. >> We're going to respect that. But you realize that you still got to play by the rules of the government because they expect the car to be registered, insured, and everything else. >> Yeah, but I'm not driving. I'm not I'm not using I'm not using the vehicle for any profit. I'm not I'm not for hiring. >> No, it has nothing to do with profit. This has to do with just basic stuff. In order for the vehicle to be on the roadway, it needs to be registered. So the state or in your case, >> probably the government, right? >> Mhm. >> They require your vehicle to be registered, insured, and everything else. >> Yeah. If I'm using it's just the rules that you got to play with. Unfortunately, you may not feel you may not you may not like what what what the government has to offer you and that and what they what they're asking for you to do. And that's okay. Listen, everyone everyone's got an opinion, right? >> No, it's not it's not my opinion. It's literally it's not belief. It's not belief either. It's it's constitutional. >> So, it's constitution constitutional law. Like everything statuto from this point. >> Can I make sure he wrote my name properly and everything is all set? >> Sure. You got >> Did you write his name and all that stuff? You want to put it on a piece of paper and show it to him in the window? because this is ridiculous. Yeah, man. I'm trying to I'm trying to deescalate. >> What I'm trying to get What's your first name? I'm sorry. >> My name is Jonathan. >> Jonathan? >> Yeah. >> Sergeant Donis. So, what I want to do is I want to make this as peaceful as possible. I want to move on with life. I want you to pray. I want everybody to be on their way, but I don't need this to escalate. You feel me? >> I'm I'm here. I'm willing to cooperate. >> Is this what is this all correct? Yeah. >> Yes. Whoa. He put 63 6381. I'm 99. I'm 209. >> Come on. >> Try that. >> Come on. You see, he's about to about to escalate and throw me out the car and and that and that right there, the mere something that's so small that could be prevented. >> So far, the supervisor had tried to meet him halfway, despite his dented idea of how things ought to be. This alone should have made things easier to sort out, but Jonathan still had a few more brilliant ideas he was eager to put to the test. >> 1999, the same same month, same >> everything is the same. Yeah, that's I'm like, yo, like what are you talking me? >> So, what I'm telling you is right now, straight up, either way, the car is not registered. If it's not insured, if the plate does not belong to the vehicle itself, >> I'm not going to miss any words with you. The car is going to get towed >> and it's and it's because of that situation. >> I object to taking my car, my private this my property. I didn't >> I understand that, but >> there's no contract with the state. That's I'm just trying to let you know. There's no contract with the state. I'm not giving up my right. >> But there's the thing. >> You're not supposed to be driving this vehicle because the state says, "Hey, >> I'm not driving." I told him I was traveling. I'm traveling from >> I understand that that you're traveling point A to point B. The matter is that you're not supposed to be driving in this vehicle because the state wants you to have the car registered. >> The state wants me to have it to have it insured, but I'm not using as commerce >> and registered registered. >> That's what the statute says. The statute by law. >> What statute is that if possible? >> 14. Well, you got the 1412. What is it? 1412A, which >> 1412A. >> Yeah, >> which is the reg which is the registration one. >> The registration one. Okay. >> You have insurance? >> I'm not using this car as any for business. That's what I'm trying to tell you. the state and every other state in in the United States of America right now as we as as I know it they require that when you have a registration the vehicle also needs to be insured. Okay. Now that's another that's the other statue on that one. The insurance is the 14213b bravo. Okay. So it's 14 to13 1412A for registration. Okay. Now you got what you call a misuse. If you have a plate that belonged to another car at some time in the past and now you you you actually a fixed to this vehicle. Now you're looking at an additional charge. >> What charge? The statute of that is going to be 14147 which is which explains it says a misuse of registration. Basically you're using registration belongs to another vehicle or never belonged to anything at all you know that maybe was cancelled or whatever it was and you put it and you fix it to this vehicle here. So that's what you're looking at. So you're looking at three things. All right. Now the officer stopped you for whatever problem cause he had. >> Mhm. >> So this is where we are right now. So, with that said and done, we, >> you know, are are bounded by having to remove the vehicle off the road because it's not roadw worthy. It's your car. We're not seizing your car. >> You're seizing my car. You're taking my property. >> You're going to remove it from the road, but you have the right to go to the Department of Motor Vehicles, get a registration and insurance, and ensure the vehicle, and you can take the vehicle out. That's >> I don't want to do any of that because I'm not that's just that's the first place, but I didn't give up the right to give my car. >> I understand. So, the way we would avoided that is if you would have had the vehicle registered already. And I know that you you don't abide by the >> I didn't say I don't abide by the law. I I uphold the law. I uphold I follow it to the tea and I understand it. >> All right. So, I'm telling you right now, >> we're going to see we're going to identify you. Either way, the cars will get to I'm tell you straight up. I'm not I'm not going to listen. I've been straight up with you, right? >> I understand that. >> Been very honest with me. I've been honest with you and I like this dialogue that we're having. But what I'm telling you is that that's where we are right now >> and let's just kind of keep it moving smooth and all that. You got kids. >> Isn't it? >> No, not here. >> I just baby seats. was off. That's fine. >> After all the persuasion and deliberate attempts to keep things calm, Jonathan left the officers with no choice but to change their approach. And he had no idea what was about to hit him. >> So, we're going to go from there, right? So, let's let's keep it cautious. Let's keep moving. >> I'm always going to keep it causing, man. I'm always going to keep it. >> All right. So, like I said, you identify identified. >> No. >> Okay. All right. So, listen. There's the warning. >> Are you going to step out of the vehicle? >> So, there's a threat. >> That's not a threat. That's just I'm telling you right now the warning is I give you the courteous the court the courtesy the courtesy is Jonathan >> we're going to tow your vehicle we need you to get out of the vehicle >> I don't consent to my I just gave you a law order which they probably gave you the off order on top of that >> now we're going to move forward to the next level I don't want to go be honest with you because I want to keep this very peaceful and I want I just want I want to move on my way you want to move on your way I understand that. So, I already asked you. I'm gonna ask you again just to be clear. Clarity. Okay. You know, your camera's going off. Is the recording going off? Everybody's camera is off. All right. It's good. >> Perfect. >> So, I'm going to ask you, >> would you mind stepping out of the vehicle so that trooper can actually tow your vehicle and do what he has to do. He's going to issue your infractions and then you could go to court and you could actually test it and that's how we go from there. >> So, life goes on. >> Yeah. It's very peaceful. I just don't consent with my property being taken. >> You understand? I'm already we already asked you. So, I'm gonna give you the currency to open the door. >> I know. >> Oh, that happened and then when it was cold, you open it from inside. >> Yeah. I just don't consent to my problem being told. That's what I'm saying. >> You don't have to consent, but this is where we are right now. >> Consent. >> I don't have to consent, but this is where we are. >> So, you what you're saying is you're refusing to get out of here. >> I didn't say I was refusing. I >> All right. So, you know what? I'm moving on. What you got to do? [Music] >> Nice. They broke my window. Nope. Nope. Don't reach. Do not reach. Do not reach. >> I don't consent no senses, no seizure of my vehicle. Can you want me to open it for you? No. Don't. Do not touch my phone. Do not let it record. That's messing with evidence. >> All right. Hold on. >> You cannot. >> Are you going to read me my rights? >> We will. >> Can you push? Can you I can't I can't I can't turn. I need you to I bet you're about to pull me out. >> All right, we got you. We got you. Not dragging you on. >> Nobody Nobody's dragging you. Just >> I'm trying through behind your back. Relax. That's it. And then just lift them up. Let's get them off. >> All right. >> I'm not restrict to the side. >> Bring your knee up to your chest. >> Bring your knee. There you go. Now you're going to roll. >> Bring your other knee. Bring your other knee. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. All right. There you go. >> Do you have a wallet or anything to do when you come out? >> Put this foot on your cell phone. Obviously. >> Yeah. My foot back. >> And your foot back. Put your backpack. Is it your foot? >> Put this foot underneath you. Put that by your front. >> All right. In the end, he was charged with failure to comply with a lawful order, resisting arrest, and obstructing a law enforcement officer. Another encounter with an unusual sovereign citizen in Washington got chaotic when she came in loud, ready to lecture and threatening the cops until the second some cuffs replaced her bracelets. >> So, I'm in. All right. Thank you, Biden. >> Okay. >> Handle this. Whatever condition is in, doesn't matter. You need to be careful because I'm not the girl to mess with. Honest to God, I will take your job from you today. I'm giving you the opportunity. Do you want to go to Junior Land or do you want to be allowed on Earth? >> Cuz I own the United States. >> Let me go. >> We'll put her in your car. >> A few minutes past 6 p.m. on December the 11th, 2023, police in Washington got a call from a Chevrolet dealership about a woman who refused to leave the premises, setting the stage for a confrontation no one at the showroom had penciled into their evening plans. So, what's going on today? >> Um, so I have a vehicle here that's I I should be able to pick up with my name on it and I have the paperwork to prove it and I own the dealership. >> Okay. >> To my awareness, I own the dealership outright. The FBI could validate that. >> Um, if there's a mistake, there's a mistake in communication. Either way, I have the paperwork to prove that I was supposed to pick up this vehicle. It's fine. And I think they just don't have it. >> Is what I think is happening because I've been told they don't have it. and I've been really sick and not had a chance to come and get it and I've had problems every time I come to get it. Um, it's never simple enough and I just don't like problems. >> Is this your vehicle? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Copy. I have a plate for you. >> Charles John George A170. >> Uh, do you have a license? Can I take a look at it >> just to so I know who you are? [Music] Yeah. >> So, is it Maka? Is that how you pronounce it? >> Mka, >> ma'am. Go ahead. >> Ma'am, how do you how do you pronounce your first name? >> Mka. >> What's your badge number? >> What's your badge number? >> What's that? >> What's your badge number? >> We don't have badge numbers. My name is Officer Robinson. >> I need a I need an officer with a badge number. >> Why is that? >> Um because I'm not dealing with aliens. I'm dealing with people. >> Okay. So, Matchka, here's what's going to happen. Okay. The general manager, >> you have no right to trespass me. I've done nothing wrong. You cannot ticket me and you cannot arrest me. I'm the chosen. >> I don't want to take you arrest you. I'm just going to read you the admonishment and then you're free to >> No, I know. You need to understand something. I have paperwork right here that proves that I have a vehicle with my name on it that I'm supposed to be allowed to pick up. I also own the dealership. He He's fired. You need to do your homework before you make a decision cuz I will make sure you don't have a job. So, this is a crumpled up like pamphlet. Okay. >> I know it's not in good shape. So, what it still is what it is. It's adopted. >> I'm going to read this to you. It says, "I'm no longer permitted to look on the computer." Publications Machka, your trespass. If you don't leave, we're going to arrest you. >> Police then. >> Okay. >> We're going to arrest you if you don't leave. >> All right, guys. Can all take a second. She's in her car and she's refusing to leave the property. Matchka, if you don't leave, you're going to be arrested. We're going to put you in handcuffs for trespassing. What's that? >> No, I'm giving you a warning. If you don't leave, you're officially trespassed. And we're going to arrest you for trespassing. But I'm I'm trying to be fair with you. >> I'm trying to be fair with you. You can leave. You're free to leave right now. >> I'm not leaving. >> Okay. You have to. You can't I don't want to arrest you. I really don't. You can't. >> I can't if you don't leave. >> The law is the law. Check your laws. >> This is a private establishment. Okay. >> Don't worry, Cas. Just an FYI, uh you may get some calls from here her in a second. Mko, can you talk to me? I think this is my first inerson interaction with her. Can you look at her do when you get here so we can get a positive ID just to be sure. [Music] Mka, we're making a bigger deal out of this than we need to. >> Matchka, >> can you not touch my door? >> Okay. I don't want to make a big deal out of this. Okay, you can just go. You can just go. >> I need somebody to come in hand. This guy needs to be fired and I'm getting in touch with the president. So, I'm getting pissed. All right. Thank you, Biden. >> Okay, Mashka. >> Handle this. >> The situation had already made it clear to the officer that he was in for a chaotic evening, but this sovereign citizen was just warming up, especially since her warped idea of the law seemed to give her a free pass for what she was doing. Okay. No, I want my car. >> You do not have a car here. >> Okay, dude. Do your homework. At least do your job. >> I'm trying to do then figure it out cuz this is proof right here. >> They owe me this vehicle. My name is already on it. My name is on all these vehicles. >> So, at least exhaust your options first. I'm You're not doing your job because you haven't done an investigation thoroughly. >> Okay. So I honestly like if I just don't want to arrest you and I don't want them to tow your car. >> You can't. >> I can't if you don't leave. You've been warned that the general manager wants you trespass. >> I own this place. >> Why would you want me to do that? >> I own this. >> You do not own this place, Mashka. >> Dude, prove it to yourself or leave me alone. Please. I'm not in the mood for Leave me alone. >> I don't want to. I don't want to arrest you. >> Dude, do whatever you think you need to do. You're going to lose your job as a Sen. Do you want to go to Junior? >> I'm not. I'm not. Okay. >> Okay. Well, you can go take orders from Junior on Junior Land. And on Earth here, we do things a certain way. And it's called as an officer of the law, you either investigate and do your job and exhaust the possibilities of my side of the story, or you don't do your job and don't do your job. But either way, you're not going to arrest me cuz it's against the law. And you're not going to tell me I can't do something I know I have the right to do. And you're not gonna tell me I don't have a vehicle here because I know I do. And this paperwork right here proves it. Whatever condition is in, doesn't matter. You need to be careful because I'm not the girl to mess with. Honest to God, I will take your job from you today. When you walk away from here, they're going to tell you you're fired. I not. >> You need to go have them prove to you that this is not my vehicle that I'm saying is my vehicle. >> This is This is your vehicle. Those other ones are not. >> Excuse me. Please. Excuse me. >> You promise me you're going to leave. We can go. >> This guy doesn't get my car. >> Okay, if you leave, >> somebody deal with you. Hear that? Get the her car. Did you hear that? >> Are you going to leave? >> Tell him again. I don't think he can hear you. Get the away from her car. when I >> get away from my car. >> This might turn into an extracting from the vehicle situation. >> This is a third just to >> assist with that. >> Okay. >> He's not getting away from >> So, I'm having a third officer come. Listen. >> Good. Do it. >> Okay. >> Do it. >> If you're not willing to leave by the time that third officer gets here, we're going to arrest your other car. Close my door. Thank you. >> Are you going to drive away and leave? No, I'm not. >> Okay, then we're not going to do this cuz I don't want I don't want you to barricade in your car. >> I'm not going to barricade in my car. You're not even a cop. Get a life, dude. Go get a security job cuz you're not a cop. You're alien. Get the away from me. >> They wanted her trespass. Go get the card signed. >> They can't trespass me. I own this dealership. You >> already have one. >> I own the dealership. >> Confirm that. >> You guys are both done. >> Okay. I've given you numerous opportunities. >> I'm giving you the opportunity. Do you want to go to Junior Land or do you want to be allowed on Earth? >> Cuz I own the United States. >> Which would you like? Junior land or Earth? >> I don't want to arrest you. >> You can't. >> I don't. We're going to. When my sergeant gets here, we're going to arrest you. >> I bet you're not. >> We are because I'm giving you every opportunity to leave. They want you trespass. We're getting the admonishment signed right now. >> Sure. >> Did you hear that? You're tired. Did you hear that part? Okay. >> I warned you. What's that? >> They signed it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Trespass me off my own property. >> It's not your property. So, >> you're calling me a liar right now and you're saying something you're wrong about. Like, you're dumb. >> I just I don't I don't know why we have to have it come to this point. Honestly, you can leave and you can fight this battle another day. You can go get a real certificate for being a real cop and then you can come at me like this when you know real laws of this real planet earth. This is not somewhere else. This is not alien world. This is human world where we follow human laws of the constitution which states I have the right to be here. This is my dealership. Her speech mannerisms hinted at someone either unstable or with a disturbed mind. This alone pushed the officer to approach her calmly, but her outburst was only about to get more brazen as her version of legal reality was anything but the truth. >> Then I'm allowed to pick up because it's already got my name on it. >> She's been warned several times now that she will be arrested by the time uh our third officer gets here. So, you may just want to park directly behind her for the arrest at that point. So, Sergeant's on the way. It's It's If you want to leave before he gets here, you are. >> Get your flashlight out of my face. >> No, we're not. We're not. >> Dude, you're so done. You're so fired. It's not even funny. You're fired. You're fired, too. I have the right to have work for me in the United States. People that have like the Did you even go to the force or the freaking police academy? >> I did. Yes. >> Yeah. Right. I told them not to send a badge number. A no badge number. I told them that on the phone cuz I'm not an alien and I am alive and this is not a situation where I'm no bad. I told them that. >> Dude, he's stupid. I'm not leaving. >> I don't Then you're going to be arrested. >> You're going to be arrested. Get off my >> When when that other car shows up, we're going to arrest you. You're going to be under arrest. >> Whatever. And you're going to see what it's like to be in trouble for doing something you're not legally allowed to do. You better learn your laws before you try to come at me crazy. >> I'm not trying to come you crazy. I'm actually talking to you very I'm trying you're crazy right now talking to you very respectfully me like that. >> I'm trying to respect you and give you an option. >> God, dude. Please get him away from me. >> Okay, we don't have to talk to me. >> Get in the away from me. Get him away from my door. >> Nope. >> I'm closing my door. Okay, >> dude. Just is going to get the up if he doesn't quit. Dude, get him away from my door. He's not listening to you. >> This This is your last chance. >> If you lay one hand on me, you're so much further done than you realize. >> I've I've offered you >> If you assault me in any way, >> I've offered you an out to avoid that. offered you a knowledge and you don't seem to want to learn anything. So, leave me alone. >> You hear Junior cursing you out? You stupid mother. You stupid. Now you're going to get Junior in trouble for doing something he should not have done. >> Who's Junior? >> Up till now, she had been nothing short of intolerable. But an unstable mind mixed with a ridiculous interpretation of the law is a cocktail that's never done anyone any good. And she was about to find that out the hard way. >> Okay, I'm leaving. Get off of me. >> He's hurting me. >> He's hurting me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. We're good. >> Don't touch. I said don't touch me. Jesus. What the What the [ __ ] dude? What the >> We're good. >> You guys are letting this [ __ ] happen. What are the >> Okay, relax. Relax. >> Security. He's hurting me. Jesus. What are they? >> You're under arrest for trespassing. Okay. >> God, what are they doing? Oh, >> you're under us for trespassing. Okay. >> What are the are you doing, dude? I can't even breathe. >> We're in custody now. >> I cannot breathe. >> Okay, Mka, we want to set you up. Okay. >> I have to I can't breathe. >> Mka, we need you to sit up. Okay. >> I can't breathe. >> Feel good. >> Okay, let's go see our car. Okay. >> Biden, what the >> Help me. Please stand for us. Okay. >> Let's not make this any more painful of a process than it needs to be. >> Okay. Watch here. I'll get my car on the other side. >> I got the door open. >> One of the or tighten down. >> God, this guy's throwing me on the ground. Relax. >> Get hold of me. >> Just sit. Just sit here and quit the Okay. >> You'll be fine. You'll be fine. God [Music] doing this. Stop. Okay. So, just sit here. [Music] Get off, >> we can't do that. >> I'm not even doing anything. You let go of me. >> We can't do that. >> Let you go, dude. You're making it so I'm going to pass the out. Stop. >> Well, let's stay here. Take some deep breaths. >> Let's go. >> Take some deep breaths. >> Let go of me. I'm already handcuffed. I can't do anything. >> You can run. So, you're sitting right. >> Dude, you're trying to me up. They're trying to kill me. [Music] Jesus. What the I I can't I can't stand up. I can't breathe. >> Just sit where you're take some deep breaths. >> I don't feel good. Stand up. >> Let's stand. >> Let's stand up now then. Let's get up. God. >> No. >> Come on, Ma. Let's stand up. >> Get off of me. >> Okay, we got to hold on to you, but let's stand up like you asked. >> Get off of me. Let me go. >> We'll put her in your car. >> You guys are in so much trouble. >> Come on. Race here. You were given many many warnings. >> You guys can't do this. >> I can't do it. I'm leaving. >> You're going to hurt yourself if you call. >> Stop. >> I'm not doing anything. >> You guys can't do this. >> You cannot do this. You don't get arrested for trespassing. God, what is going on? >> Up to this moment, she had been all mouth and bravado. But with this new twist, the real test was about to begin. And her so-called sovereign citizenship might not be the shield that she thought it was. >> Call another cop. I want a badge number. >> Four of them right here. >> Let go of me. You guys >> that I offered you the chance. >> You can't do this. >> You cannot do this. You >> I don't know where Tiger is. She has complained so far here. >> You guys are all going to be fired. >> I can't believe you're letting them do this to me. >> Have a secret. >> I can't believe you're letting them do this to me. >> I can't. I need air. >> I'm really sick of my face. Television's sweating. >> I'm sick as I need air. >> Roll down the window. Roll down here. There you go. Move your legs in, please. You don't have to arrest me like this for trespassing. >> Okay. Move your legs in. >> Call a sheriff. >> Moa, put your legs in. >> Call a sheriff. >> Please don't make one of my officers have to go in the back and assist you in. >> Please call somebody else. >> Move your legs in. >> I'm asking you as nicely as I can. >> And I'm asking you to put your legs in and maybe this is a dude. This is such bull. >> I can't breathe. Please don't. >> I'll roll the window down. >> I'll ask you one more time. Is there anything I can get out of your car that you need? >> Oh, my stuff is in my car. >> Okay. Unfortunately, I can't take everything. Anything important? >> Oh, thank God, dude. >> Most likely your car is going to get towed by them. Do you want your purse? Listen, do you want your purse and your phone? Okay, I'll grab that. Okay. >> Hey, Ma. I don't know where your phone's at. Do you have it in your purse? >> Ma, do you have your phone in your purse? >> I'm sure I do. >> Okay. Yeah, I'll put the purse back here then. With her fate sealed, the ride to the station turned into its own sideshow because cuffs alone weren't nearly enough to keep her in check. [Music] >> Can you please leave that? >> Oh, yes, I can. >> Yep. There you go. I'll wear the other window down, too. >> They me so hard. You're so funny. You are so bullish. I don't feel good. And I need my vehicle. You can't. I didn't even have a trespass there. I never had been trespassed there before. How can you arrest me for trespassing when I never been trespassed before? You guys are so up. [Music] so trouble. You have no idea what you've done. >> You don't even understand. You're not going to [ __ ] work in this [ __ ] day. >> You're not going to work in this [ __ ] place for >> I guarantee you if he's not fired the minute he go I got bruises all over me now. >> In the end, she was charged with trespassing and resisting arrest. As wild the dealership lady was, she was nothing compared to this sovereign citizen who turned a traffic stop into a full-on brawl with the cops. All because she thought that she was untouchable. >> All right. Well, you're speeding in the school zone doing over 50 mph. This is not going to go well for you. Okay. I need you to provide me your driver's license. On January the 22nd, 2024, just after sunrise in Georgia, a sovereign citizen found herself pulled over for speeding through a school zone. He thought she was just being difficult, but all she was really doing was setting herself up for more trouble than she could handle. >> How you doing? You know, I stopped you this morning. >> What's that? >> Uh, yes, ma'am. You actually were doing uh over 50 mph in a 35 mph zone in a school zone. >> Yes, ma'am. You were speeding. >> You were speeding? Yes, ma'am. Can I see your driver's license, please? >> Ma'am, can I see your driver's license, please? >> 3120. Can you go and start me another unit? Ma'am, can you go ahead and get your driver's license, please? >> Ma'am, I need to see your driver's license, please. Ma'am, >> I need your driver's license, please. >> I told you. I told you, ma'am. You were speeding. Ma'am, >> you're speeding in the school zone. >> 31,2 non-compliant driver. >> I'm help. >> No, ma'am. You're not. I need to see your driver's license, ma'am. I do not consent to >> Okay, it doesn't matter if you consent to this. >> Understand? >> Okay, I told you you were speeding in a school zone. >> Okay, I'm telling you what's going on right now. You were speeding in a school zone. >> Okay, so I I'm happy I want to tell you, >> ma'am, >> I'm going to need to see your driver's license. >> You're fa You failed to obey. >> Yes, I have. Ma'am, I have you. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, are you giving me a statuto? You were speeding, ma'am. >> Ma'am, you were speeding. Ma'am, if you do not give me your driver's license, ma'am, if you do not give me a driver's license, it is going to lead to you being arrested and going to the Foresight County Jail. Okay. I would like for you to give me your driver's license. You are speeding in a school zone going over 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. >> Okay, ma'am. >> You're not. Ma'am, this is not the time and place. Yes, you are being detained right now. >> Where where's the warrant? >> You just committed a crime back there. You were speeding in a school zone. >> Where's the victim? I >> ma'am. >> No, I don't. >> You were speeding in a school zone. >> Where did you die? >> I told you you just were speeding in a school zone. >> The state of Georgia says you were speeding in a school zone. Okay. The officer's warning couldn't have been more reasonable, but she acted like she was wrapped in a blanket of conspiracies and legal loopholes. In her opinion, that somehow excused her lack of manners, especially when she was given a lawful order. What she didn't know was that she was walking straight into a mess that she could not talk her way out of. >> Okay, ma'am. >> You're going to go to jail if you do not comply right now. >> Ma'am, I'm trying to help. >> Ma'am, you're not helping. You're making this harder on yourself. Ma'am, I need you to give me your driver's license. >> You were speeding in a school zone doing over 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. Okay. >> All right. I would just like to give you a citation and get and you can go around your way. But I cannot give you that until you provide me your driver's license. You're required by law to give me your driver's license right now. the constitution. Okay. >> The state of Georgia says you have to provide me your driver's license when your case for this is a legal stop, ma'am. Okay. I need you to provide me your driver's license. >> I did nothing on >> Yes, ma'am. You were speeding in a school zone. >> I did nothing. >> Ma'am, you are speeding in a school zone. >> Ma'am, you're not making this easy on yourself right now. I need you to stop. I need you to give me your driver's license. Ma'am, >> I need you a new driver's license right now. >> Okay. >> I don't understand. >> All right. Well, you're speeding in the school zone doing over 50 mph. This is not going to go well for you. Okay. I need you to provide me your driver's license. >> Understand? I don't understand. >> All right. Ma'am, I need you to give me your driver's license. I'm going to ask you one last time. Otherwise, I'm going to remove you from this vehicle and you're going to go to jail. >> Ma'am, I can. >> It doesn't matter what you can censor at this point. >> Doesn't matter what I can sensor. I asked for the constitution. >> I told you you're being pulled over for speeding in a school zone. >> I can help you with >> Soon, a police supervisor rolled up. A sure sign that trouble was brewing. But this time, he was there to calm things down and hopefully wrap it up without drama. But with this woman's twisted idea of the law, the whole thing was just as likely to tip in the wrong direction. And so your license is suspended. Okay. Uh so right now you're under arrest. You're under arrest. So you need to step out of here. I'm sorry. down. I do not. You guys just me. Oh my god. [Applause] I I need to remind as to what the constitution emergency was. I was trying to help. A misguided faith in a twisted version of the law had gotten her this far, and she still wasn't done talking. The officers were only trying to keep her safe. But by now, jail wasn't just possible. Was guaranteed. Still, she wasn't finished yet. >> So, what what part of you was injured? >> My wrists were injured. My knees were scraped against the ground like I was put in a choke hole. What did you do? I just leave it behind. Yeah, I was trying to do the under the >> Yeah, I had a right hand. You got anything on Nothing like that. All you got to check your back, man. Okay. Make sure you got nothing on you. Not going to do that, ma'am. Go have a seat. >> Let's check these. >> Already loosened. >> All right. So, those are as loose as they can go, they I can fit two fingers in that. Okay. So, I I'll tell you something. If you if you keep your hands just the way they are, so the cuffs won't twist around, it'll stay comfortable that way. It'll stay more comfortable that way. In the end, she was charged with driving on a suspended license and resisting arrest. Next up is James Latimore, who figured he didn't have to answer lawful questions and believe the cops needed his consent to arrest him. >> I don't answer questions. >> I don't need that, sir. >> Look at him. >> Hey, they just arrested. Hey, look at him. Do not consider arrested. Do not consider the search. You guys should strip your badges off now. I should be handcuffed. You know I ain't commit noing crime. >> On the 19th of May 2023, Florida police officers on routine patrol spotted a car in a school zone with a suspended license plate due to a lack of insurance. Upon approaching him, it became clear to the cops that things were going to get heated quickly as it wasn't going to be a routine traffic stop. >> Hey buddy, can you roll your window down for me? No, >> I can't hear you. You need to roll your window down for me. >> Just a little bit more for me, please. here. >> Go ahead. Give me another unit. >> You can hear me. >> Okay. May I see your driver's license, please? Registration and proof of insurance. The reason I'm stopping you, sir, is your tax zone suspended for no insurance? >> No, sir. I think >> I'm sorry, sir. >> Sir, I have committed a crime. >> Okay. We're not going to play that game today. Okay. >> Okay. I need your driver's license, sir. >> What's your name? >> Sir, my name is Sergeant Glass, ID 293. >> My name is Sergeant Glass, ID 293. Okay. Your tag is serving suspended for not having insurance on file. >> Unfortunately, you got >> Okay. So, you're going to refuse to identify yourself. You want to go down that route? >> Uh, quite a bit. Unfortunately, >> that's the route you're going to go a crime. >> You have committed a crime? >> No, I'm not. >> Sir, your tag is showing suspended. >> I was No, this New York. >> You have no insurance? No. >> So, here's how we resolve this. Listen, show me proof of insurance and we're done. It's a very simple process. drivers. >> Drivers refusing to cooperate, >> refusing to give any information down here, please. >> Like most sovereign citizens, it didn't take long for him to begin to act like he was above the law and complicate an otherwise simple situation. >> I am the supervisor, sir. >> Unreadable. >> I don't answer questions. >> I don't need that, sir. >> Yes, you do. >> No, I don't. >> I don't answer questions. >> Sovereign citizen. I need a unit. >> Refusing no ID. We get 14. >> I copy sovereign citizen. You need an additional unit. >> Sir, I'm still unreal. >> Yeah, I don't know. My radio. Can you run the RO? >> What is your reason? >> Sir, I already told you what my suspicion was. >> Your tag is coming back. Bravo, just be advised your traffic is unreadable. >> Bravo 10 confirming the tag is suspended based on no insurance. Correct. >> Correct. The James Mar suspended as well. >> J, are you James? >> Are you James? >> James, >> sir, let me let me explain this to you. I really don't want to go down this road with having to take you out of the car for failure to identification. Sir, the window will come down. >> Okay. >> Don't be reaching for anything in the car. >> Reaching for anything. >> I don't answer questions. >> Okay. Well, you're going to have to give me your information, sir. By Florida law. >> Sir, let me guess. You're traveling, right? You're not driving a vehicle. >> Don't ask questions. >> Okay. Well, I need your ID. Your tag is suspended. You have no insurance. And it says according to you, according to the DMV, your your your driver's license is suspended. >> Okay. So, >> do you really want to go to jail over something silly like this? >> But it could just be a ticket. >> Is that what you really want to do? >> Sir, I'm asking as politely as I can for your information. I'm sorry. >> I do not answer question. >> Well, sir, you you have to >> I do not answer a question. >> All right. Step out of the car. >> I'm sir, I'm giving you a lawful reason to step out of the vehicle. >> Sir, if you don't step out of the vehicle, you're going to be escorted from the vehicle. Do not answer. >> Okay. You're going to be escorted from the vehicle. I really don't want to do that, James. >> Not asking question. >> I understand that. >> Give me your insurance card and show me your insurance is valid. Despite his annoying behavior, the officer still thought it was better to play nice with him. But for some reason, James, on his part, rather than comply with them, decided it was best to push their boundaries. >> Don't be reaching for anything in the car. No. Get your hand out of that right now. >> You rise in front. >> Don't be reaching for anything in the car. >> I need you to step out of the car, sir. >> Let's go. Step out of the car. I don't need your book on what you have to do. You know the rules for a traffic stop. Okay. Your license is showing suspended. Your tag is suspended. And it says you have no insurance on file. >> That's impossible. >> Then show me that. >> That's impossible. >> Then show me that. >> I don't consent to arrest. I don't. >> It's not a consent thing, sir. >> Yes, it is. >> I haven't committed crime, sir. >> Sir, I'm telling you right now, you have to identify yourself to me. >> This is not Nazi Germany. And >> you're right. It's not. We're not doing that, sir. All I'm asking you for is your driver's license. >> I'm not, sir. You ready to reach and pull a gun on me? I'm not reaching for You're the one reaching into a bag. Sir, I haven't pulled my gun out, >> but you're the one reaching into a bag against my orders of asking you not to do that, sir. >> All right. Are you going to step out of the car or not? >> I'm not, sir. >> Stand by with him, please. >> I was able to find a driver's license for you. So, now I know who you are. Okay. So, that's number one. Number two, you are driving with a suspended tag and a suspended no insurance, which means your car will not be allowed to be driven. Okay, that I know I'm telling you what's happening. So, the question is, do you have somebody that can come and get you in the car that can come and get you? Cuz you're not going to be able to drive. I can't hear you. >> You're saying you got my all the >> No, I got your driver's license, so I know who you are. Now, that's the easy part. The the the hard part is if you just show me proof of insurance, you're on your way. Then it's nothing more than a clerical issue. >> I haven't committed a crime. >> You have? >> No, I have not. >> You you you've committed a traffic infraction, sir. >> You You throwing that at me. >> No, I'm not. I'm telling you what the state. Listen, you're in Florida. You committed a traffic infraction. A >> crime. >> Okay. So, I don't understand why you just won't give me a proof of insurance and be on your way. >> Committed a crime, sir. >> You have? >> No, I have not. >> You have committed a traffic infraction. You're driving with suspended plates. It is a criminal offense to drive with no insurance in the state of Florida. >> No. >> It is a criminal offense. >> I have not committed a crime. >> Are you driving the vehicle? >> I have not committed a crime. >> Are you driving the vehicle? >> I have not committed a crime, sir. >> When was the last time you were arrested? I do not answer questions. >> Of course you don't. >> I don't answer questions. >> Okay. >> Seeing that he was not in any way willing to comply, the officers decided to give him a few more chances, at least before they resorted to more desperate measures. >> All right, James. Here's the scoop. Either you show me proof of insurance or you're going to have to be escorted out of the car because I'm going to have to tow the car. So, which way would you like to go? >> Give me a window punch. He's coming out. >> Okay. I'm going to break the window, sir. I really don't want to do that to you. >> The window's going to be broken. >> Okay. The window's going to be broken. >> Drive. >> Okay. >> I'm not viol if you just show me proof of insurance, we would be all set. James, >> why won't you do that? >> Sir, why won't you do that? >> James. James. James. James, listen to me real quick. James, James, listen to me, dude. We don't want to break a window. We don't want to break a window. That's the last thing we want to do. >> Okay. >> You can be on your way. Just show us the proof of insurance. That's it. >> You're going to make it so much harder. >> I don't want to arrest you for resisting. >> I don't want to arrest you for resisting, sir. >> I really don't. All I want to do is get your insurance and get you on your way. >> Okay, that's it. >> It's not a search. >> No, it's not. >> All right. Well, here's what's going to happen. We're going to end up breaking your window and you're going to end up coming out of the car, sir, and going to jail for resisting. >> Is that what you really really what you want to happen today? Don't you just want to go about your business? >> Okay. Pop the window. Let's go. >> Get the door. >> Get the door. >> Unlock the door. Unlock the door. >> Be careful. >> Don't reach for anything. Don't reach for anything. >> Get out of the car. Get out of the car. >> Get out of the car. >> Get out of the car. >> Hey, under the belt. Under the bar. >> Look at them. Hey, they just arrested. Hey, look at them. They doing this right here. They're doing this for no reason. Y'all, >> I'm telling you, y'all listen. I do not get this arrest. I do not. >> I do not consider arrest. I do not consider arrest. I do not consider arrest. I do not consistent arrest. I do not consider arrest. I do not order. Me too. >> I do not consent to any arrest. Me too. >> I do not consent to the arrest. >> Yeah. >> I do not I'm not consistent. >> I am not consistent arrest. I am not consistent arrest. I am not consistent arrest. I'm not consistent arrest. >> Although he was already in trouble, his ignorance failed to let him see that he had no right of much significance anymore. Not especially to officers who are now determined to knock some sense in his head. >> I'm not resisting arrest. I'm noting arrest. >> You're under arrest. arrest. I'm not resisting arrest. Stop resisting. >> I'm not resisting arrest. I'm not resisting arrest. I'm not resisting arrest. I'm not resisting arrest. I am not resisting arrest. I'm not I don't consent to searches. >> You searching my car without a warrant. >> You said my car without my car. I do not consent the searches. I do not resist arrest. I do not consider the search. >> Okay, James, it's over. >> I do not consider the arrest. I do not consent the searches. It's over. >> I not arrest. I do not consent to searches. >> James, it's over. >> Nuh-uh. No. I do not consent to arrest. I do not consent to searches. I not resist an arrest. I do not consent to search. You did resist. I do not resist arrest. I do not search by yourself because I did not commit a crime. >> You did? >> Because I did not commit a crime without presented ID on the presenter of presented ID. You are arrested. You are committing a crime as we speak. You guys are committing a crime as we speak. You are committing a crime as we speak. You guys should strip your badges off now. >> I'm going I'm going for that insurance bond number. I guarantee you on that. I'm going for it. I'm going for my insurance bond number. I'm going for my insurance bond number. See that? Look at that. I don't consent to searches. I don't consent the searches. He's searching my vehicle. I don't consent the searches. I don't consent the searches. You are violating my constitutional rights. You have just violated my constitutional rights. [Music] >> You just violated my constitutional rights. Bastard. >> I shouldn't be a handcuff. You know, I ain't commit noing crime. I will not harm any of your police officers or anything. I did not warn any police officer on I not presented ID. This is not Nazi Germany. You just locked me up for no reason. You just you just committed you just committed frauds and treasons. [Applause] And you broke my window. Sweet. Oh, this is going to be sweet. I don't consent to uh searches and you search me. You had you searched me. >> At this point, it was obvious that there must have been some level of brainwashing done to these sovereign citizens to make them believe in such delusions. And James was no different. >> I didn't comply with searches. I said I didn't consent to searches. I didn't consider the search. I consider the searches my constitutional rights. I'm multiplying a threat of life. I'm multiple complying on the threat of life. I don't consider the search and you keep searching. I don't consider the searches. I don't consider the searches, but yet you still keep searching me even when I don't consent. Just bust me out. Constitute my In the end, he was charged with resisting an officer without violence and failure to obey police orders. As crazy as that was, Roosevelt Norton made it look like child's play. He strutdded around thinking his self-proclaimed sovereign citizen immunity made him untouchable. Instead, it blew up in his face big time. >> You don't have your license on you? >> I don't use light. >> Other hand. Other hand. >> Let me put my keys in my pocket. We'll take it. >> Let's be clear. I'm not a US citizen. I'm a United States of America citizen. Even happening. You have you have a warrant, so I have to take you for it. >> What you don't understand is that like I say, I'm a star. >> On March the 30th, 2020, Florida police pulled over a vehicle for a simple traffic violation. At first, it was just a routine stop. Quick warning and he'd be on his way. This man had pushed his luck too far and it was a mistake that he was going to regret. >> Would you like to I told you why I pulled you over. >> Okay. You violated no turn on red sign. Did you see the sign? >> No, I didn't see it. >> Okay. There's a there's a sign on the post that says no turn on red. >> That's the only reason why I pulled you over. >> Uhhuh. >> Okay. >> But I'm just saying that you guys I'm going to what I'm going to do. I'm going to come down to the department. >> Okay. Do you have your license on you, sir? >> I don't. Yeah. Go right. >> You don't have your license on you? >> I don't use license. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Y'all department need to inform y'all. >> You You don't have a license on >> I don't use license. I'm get I'll be right back. 526 east traffic south. [Music] [Music] >> Stand by one second. >> So, uh, moment you ran the, um, the note. It didn't take long for officers to realize exactly who they were dealing with and they decided it was time for a wakeup call. >> No turn on red >> sign there and uh I was just going to inform him of the the traffic violation. >> You sovereign citizen or >> he uh Yeah, he started arguing with me about the traffic laws and he says he doesn't abide by the same laws we do. >> Yeah, I figured once you had that in your hand that's what it was. >> Um he uh he says he doesn't use licenses. Um, >> is this a little bit of time maybe he'll be persuaded to come to reality or he's just drawing a line in the sand? >> Well, I'm trying to figure out if he actually has a valid license. I'm assuming not, but now that I look him up, >> has a warrant. [Applause] Hey, Roosevelt and Officer Vonstein Police Department. Um, he's going to come up here in a minute and explain everything with you. Um, I guess you guys had a disagreement or something. >> This is all I go by right here. >> I got you. >> Yeah. >> Well, step outside and he'll talk to you about it. >> Yeah. Appreciate it. >> Yes, sir. >> Thanks for your cooperation. >> I'll hold this and read it while you're talking. Pick up your Morning. Turn around for me. Chance pan your back. >> Other hand. Other hand. >> Let me put my keys in my pocket. >> We'll take it. We'll get you situated here. >> I want to ask you why you >> I will I will tell you in just a second. >> Your cooperation means a lot. >> Do you have any weapons on you? >> No, not on me. >> Okay. In the in the truck, do you do >> uh weapons? Okay, that's fine. As long as they're in the in there, that's good. Here, spread your feet apart. He's just got to get you locked up in >> All right, Mr. Norton, you got a warrant out for your arrest. >> We'll tell you a little bit about it. We don't know much about it, but they did put a warrant out. >> Step back to my car. We'll go on the other side, please. Stand there for me. >> All right. >> Appreciate you. >> Face the car. Stand there for me. >> You mind just watching? >> Oh, you don't have to. I'm all about peace. >> It's policy me. >> I just have to search you. >> Do you know what your warrants for? >> No, sir. Um, I don't really know. I haven't broken any laws. Like I say, I'm sovereign here. You know, I'm an American Indian. And yeah, we don't go by y'all laws and stuff. What we try to do is what's called minimum contact. So Rick Rick Ty Smith was just um recently retired. He told me that you guys was informed about sovereign laws and stuff, right? >> You know, so I'm an American Indian, you know. No. So, so our perspective and you have your perspective. Our perspective is we go by the law, >> a judge and all that, they determine it that you violated something. >> His relentless insistence on his so-called sovereign citizenship wasn't just a statement. It was a shorefire ticket to one place, jail. >> You didn't show up for traffic or court or something. >> So, see, that's that's not me. >> Let's be clear. I'm not a US citizen. I'm a United States of America difference. So, and you guys you guys have a peace treaty with us. >> You have all this cash in your pocket. I'm going to leave it in your pocket. Okay. Just so we don't have a misunderstanding. >> Yes. So, you guys y'all have a peace treaty with us. United States government. Like I say, like I'm because we've seen eye to eye on most things, you know. So, yeah. >> Believe it or not, I'm one of the few people who's done that tribal training. Oh, okay. Okay. >> Mr. Norton, >> have a seat for me. >> Okay. >> All right. Mr. Norton, did I miss anything on you? Do you have anything illegal on you whatsoever? >> Can Can you like spray some stuff in here for me? Is it >> It's already been sprayed. Okay. >> I spray it after every transport. >> All right. >> If you have anything on you that's illegal and they find it at the jail, they will charge you with it. Okay. >> Razor blades, joints. >> No, sir. >> Okay. I just have >> Should I roll my We'll get that situated here. Do I have my passport back? >> If you want to go through there, you want me to secure it? You want to have somebody come and get it? >> You want someone to come get it or >> I mean, >> you want to just leave it there? >> I don't know how they would take for it to >> Yeah. So, I mean, if I could call somebody to come get it cuz I mean, I'm like, I don't even understand what's going on, why this is even happening. >> You have you have a warrant, so I have to take you in for What you don't understand is that like I say, I'm a sovereign citizen. I'm sovereign and y'all laws are not our laws. >> Judge Judge says you have a warrant. I got to take you in. I have no say in this. >> Yeah. >> So, so, so we're to to expedite because you need to explain it to the judge. >> Do you want us to call somebody? >> Because, sir, >> you want us to call somebody and come and get it? >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> How, how quickly could they get here? >> Um, I don't know. Um, I call my nephew and I ask him if he can come by. I can leave if you can leave the keys in the store right now. >> Let me let me talk to the store. See where where their level of comfort is while he makes the call for you. Okay. >> All right. Okay. >> Go ahead and put grab your phone for you. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Do a favor. Can you get that treaty? Can you get that treaty that I gave that he gave? >> Do you want which? >> Uh, >> this is the phone that I just picked up. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And you want both phones to go with you to the jail? >> Uh, yeah. Hello. Wait, you got to collect the phone. Oh, you got speaker. >> Good afternoon, Dr. Bro. >> Hey. Um, I got you on speaker phone. There's been some misunderstanding here with the authorities and they say they're taking me to jail. So, I'm leaving my truck. I'm believe it's up here to the gate. There's I'm going to leave my key with the uh with the cashier. So you can come just tell them your name is Robert Norton and if you will get it and take it to your place. Okay. >> Yes sir. >> It's a it's the gate right here on Magnolia just cross from the port place. >> Well we can come up there to the um to the bail place and get job. >> Um yeah. Yeah. I'm going see what they going to say about the bail and stuff. You know >> the jail will give you a phone call. They'll let you know everything. Okay. >> Yeah. Give me cuz I like I said I can't I don't understand what's going on. So yeah. So yeah. Um yeah, I might need you to do that. You're going to what? City of Tallahassee. >> Leon County. >> Leon County. >> It's off of Appleard. >> But come and get the uh come and get the the car. I definitely don't like going to this place in the time like there's all this disease and stuff going around. >> Yeah. Where I want a car. >> Okay. All right. All right. Thanks. >> What's his phone number? Robins. I mean because one thing about it I don't understand if you took that seven that sovereign class I can't understand why you >> now the class that I took is all dealing with uh treaties and negotiations. >> This phone is going with you to the jail. This phone is going to stay in your car. >> Yes sir. >> At this point the officers thought that they had it under control. But Robert had other plans. He wasn't going down without a fight. >> Hey did you get that uh you get that treaty for me? >> I'll grab it. I don't know if the jail's going to let you have it, but I'll grab it. >> Well, you know, I'll let it >> mind if I grab that key real quick. >> I'll give you >> Okay. >> He's saying he wants to grab a copy of that treaty to bring with him to the deal. It's on the driver's seat. [Music] Thanks, man. >> And I'm just uh just doing my job. >> Oh, yeah. I understand. I understand. Well, get talk to the judge and then the judge will let you know what's going on. >> Okay. >> Cuz the judge is the one who signed the warrant for you. >> Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't understand. Just totally. It doesn't make any sense. >> So, you said you don't use a license. >> No, I I don't drive. >> Well, you were driving. >> No, traveling. Everybody have a right to travel and then I'm a sovereign. >> Okay. >> So, that's what I'm saying. And the judge should know that you know like indigenous peoples and wars we don't use driving license you know I only use a passport you know we just have a treaty a treaty of peace friendship you know so I just that's what I go by you know I respect you know people and and I just think you know that's the best way to be >> Well Mr. Norton when you see the judge you got to explain to the judge all of that. Okay. Yes, sir. I will. [Music] >> I mean, I never been arrested for any. [Music] >> Yes, sir. When you have a warrant, we're more of a taxi service. We have to take you in. >> Yeah. It's been probably a warrant against the license, you know. But me being a I'm a United States of America citizen. I'm not a US citizen. Then the warrant probably is against the license. But there should be a want for my arrest. It's a distinct difference because I'm not going to I'm not going to I'm not going to use a license. I got I don't drive. travel. Like I said, like most of like the laws and stuff, you know, I agree with it because if that's a system that's in place that work, you know, and you know, finally, he was taken to court where he pled no contest to driving without a valid license. The consequence, a $433 fine and a stark reality check. Few thought Roosevelt Norton had lost touch with reality. When you meet Steven McMiller, he believes that calling himself a sovereign citizen gave him the power to defy a governor's orders and skip out on obeying any law at all. >> Mand mandatory governor signing something mandatory is not law. You understand that I'm American state national. >> You know everything. I don't know anything that's outside. Of course not. Okay. >> It sounds like somebody needs to be schooled a little bit. >> Okay. Whatever. That's cool, man. >> It's our sovereignty right that we don't have to abide by mandatory >> dictatory laws. >> On the 18th of January, officers were dispatched to a library following a call reporting a trespasser who had refused to wear a face covering in disregard of a governor's order requiring face coverings in all businesses. When the officers arrived at the scene, they met a man who felt more than insulted that he was asked to obey a governor's order as he believed that he wasn't subject to it. >> Hello. >> Hi, >> how is everybody doing? I'm doing well. >> Hi. >> What's going on? >> I don't know. I I I was here I was trying to conduct some business. I was trying to get some things printed up and they ended up kicking me off of the uh the computers that I had access to. >> Okay. And I just needed to print up four pieces of paper and she's trying to tell me that I I have to wear and demand me to wear a mask to to use any facilities or anything in here. >> You have to wear a mask. There's a governor's mandate, sir. >> Okay. But that's not law. >> Okay. >> And did you or did you not swear not to the constitution or did you swear? >> Can I ask you a question so we can cut through all of this? Is this really worth it to go through all of this for four pieces of paper when you can just put a face covering on? Isn't it crazy that I'm being discriminated against? You're asking me. >> Sir, I'm the I'm the wrong person to argue cuz I've lost three family members to co. So, I'm not the right person to argue. >> I'm sorry that that that you that you've lost family members. >> There's a there's a way to handle this. You can just wear a face covering or you can leave, sir, and go somewhere else that doesn't require you to wear it. But this is a city building. >> What What are your You don't have any stripes on your arm? >> No, I'm a police officer, sir. >> Hey, do you have a sergeant that I can speak to? >> Sure. Let's go outside and you can speak to a sergeant. and I'll call one for you cuz they don't want you in the building. Sir, >> I'd like to stand here. Just wait for the >> No, sir. You need to wear a face covering or you need to leave. I'm not going to go through this whole thing that you can put on YouTube. >> It has nothing to do with putting on YouTube. This is actually me recording. >> Please can you please wear a face covering or can you leave? Cuz those are your two options. You can wear a face covering or you can leave. >> Okay. Would you trespass me? >> Yes, I can. And I will. And I don't want to do that because it's four pieces of paper. >> Well, actually, that's what I would like. I would like for you to trespass me so I can have the documents so I can come in. >> Do you have your ID? I don't ID unless I commit a crime. >> Although his delusion was already getting on the officer's nerves, they still felt it was better to try to get Steven in touch with reality and make him realize that his unrealistic ideas could potentially land him in jail. But he still had reasons to feel above the law, at least for the moment. >> Well, you're trespassing. That's a crime. >> That's not a crime. >> It is. >> It's a statuto violation. >> Why do we need to go down this route? Just wear a face covering. Why is it that whenever I talk about my rights, my constitutional rights, you want to >> Sir, here's your uh >> to to step over. >> I'm going to give you I'm going to give you an opportunity, okay? Cuz your constitutional rights >> and your argument standing right here is actually going to get you in handcuffs and arrested. >> So, here's your options. >> Put in jail. >> I will take you to jail if you'd like. >> You'll take me to jail if I like. >> Yes. Or you can just wear a face covering. >> You understand that I'm American State National? >> I don't, sir. Whatever imaginary thing that you think that you don't have to follow laws, that's your prerogative. >> Mand mandatory governor assigning something mandatory is not law. >> So, are you going to wear a face covering or not, sir? The >> constitution states, >> sir, are you going to put on a face covering or not? >> You know what? How about if I step outside and I'll wait for your sergeant to get here? >> Let's head right outside. >> Absolutely. >> Yes, let's do it. >> Because now I'm leaving because I was threatening that you were going to arrest me. >> Yeah, I will. If you refuse to leave, I will arrest you. There's no threat. That's going to happen. >> And the trespass because why? >> Because you're not wearing a face covering. >> And that's a criminal offense. >> They can ask you to leave or refuse service to you. >> That's a criminal offense. >> The criminal offense is that they've asked you to leave if you refuse to do so. That's trespass. >> Criminal would mean that I would actually >> and that's fine. That's you can. >> So, so your definition, >> you know what? I'm wrong. You know everything. I don't know anything. Let's go outside. >> Of course not. >> Okay. >> Sounds like some of it needs to be a little bit. >> You know what I mean? Well, I'm glad that you picked a a library to have this argument and it's a public place. >> Okay. >> I I want public. >> That's fine. >> Call your surgeon. >> Yeah, let's go outside and I'll call him. >> Don't call him. I'd like to hear >> I'm not going to argue semantic. Let's go outside. Okay. >> There you go. So, >> do you want him trespass or he can't come back? >> Okay. So, you're going to need to provide your ID, sir, cuz I'm going to fill out a trespass. >> I'll give you my name. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Steven Magnum. >> Steven. You have to spell that last name for me. >> M A C K M I L L E R. There you go. >> And I'll also like for you to get the names of these individuals that were that ended up calling. >> Do you spell Steven with a V or a PH? >> A V. >> Rather than simply walk away while he still could and without catching any charges. He preferred to complicate things by asserting his non-existent right while trespassing. >> What's your birthday, sir? >> I don't need a birthday. Okay, I'm going to give you another opportunity to think this over. Cuz right now, what's happening? You're being trespassed from this building. >> In order for me to issue you a trespass, you have to identify yourself by your name and date of birth or your social security number or your ID. I >> I told you my name. >> I need your date of birth as well, sir. >> Okay. Were you born here in New Mexico? >> I don't understand. >> Okay. All right, sir. So, what's going to happen is you're going to be trespassed from this building. >> Oh, yeah. I love that. You're not allowed to come back, including the parking lot. So, when we conclude here, you're going to have to leave. >> But I want that. I want that trespass. >> Okay. You're not going to get the trespass card. They are cuz you're being advised and given a trespass warning. >> There's no >> You're not being criminally cited. No. >> Exactly. So, this isn't is a crime. Look, I didn't commit a crime and you're over here trying to trespass me. Do you see that? >> You're you're trespassing cuz they're asking you to leave. I know, but just because they're asking me to leave doesn't mean >> My suggestion is you would need to talk to the city manager and the mayor because >> I have to talk to your sergeant. >> Okay. When we're done here. >> No, it's not when we're done. I would like to speak to him before we're done. >> No, you can talk. You can >> walk across the street and ask for >> So now So now you're refusing as an officer to call in your >> You can walk right across the street and go talk to the sergeant if you like. >> Walk across the street. >> I'm not going to go search for him. I asked for him to come. Well, you're going to need to leave. >> So, so it's not your So, it's not your uh So, it's not your policy when somebody that you are talking to >> First name Steven, last name Mac. M >> M I L L E R. >> I'm American State National. You understand the difference between American State? >> I don't care. Whatever imaginary thing you It's not imaginary. >> That's fine, man. >> Whatever American thing that says you don't have to follow the rules or whatever, that's cool, man. It's our sovereignty right that we don't have to abide by mandatory >> dictatory laws. >> Yeah, that's what he said. >> Is this really worship to cause all this? >> Funny is >> 863746. >> Is Was it Was it worth Ros? Was it worth >> Can you go to three? >> You're You're not Rosa Park, man. >> As things unfolded, it became very ridiculous to see a man who claimed not to be under any law or government try to claim a right under it. >> You understand that you'll be held liable for what you're doing for us? >> What are the last four? He keeps talking over me. >> Thanks. >> What's this? I'm liable for what? >> Well, you you could be held personally liable for violating my constitutional law. >> Go ahead. By all means, do what you got to do, but you need to leave the property, sir. >> Okay. Can I get your name? >> Milks. M I L KS. And my bad number is 863. >> 863. And who was the supervisor that >> McCord >> McCord? Do you have any idea what his ID number? >> Yeah. 746. >> McCord. Okay. >> Yes, sir. >> Well, you definitely be receiving something in the mail. >> That's absolutely fine. I just need you to use it, please. >> So, this is this is it. I don't get any paperwork. >> No, sir. >> Can I get a report number? >> I'm not doing a report on this, sir. >> You're not? >> Unless you'd like a report. Do you want a report? >> Yeah. Well, that's what I was looking for. I need a report number. >> That's And I actually asked you to to to grab their names so I know who they are so I can then respond. >> You can call the library and get it. I'm not going to give you their information. >> Well, they're the ones that are >> That's fine. >> They're the ones. So, you don't care to identify the people that are >> Not at all. That's just I'm just a bad cop that way. >> 863 Central. >> So, you're a bad cop that way? I'm just a bad cop. I do bad investigations. Let me get you a case number and you can get out of here. Okay. >> Give me a case number. Do you have a business card or anything? >> Can I get a case in tips? I don't. I'm going to write it on this paper for you because I ran out of business cards. >> Sounds good. Steven was eventually issued a criminal trespass