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good afternoon this is Daniel here with Copwatch TV I want to welcome everyone into our live show where we are going to break down some of the most interesting and important police cases from around the country that have recently happened if you haven't already please goad And subscribe to our Channel and make sure that you share it with friends and family we do this live show on Fridays usually around lunchtime around noon or so on Friday's mountain time and um just want to make sure that as many people as possible can be into the live show just so we can have some back in forth and discussion about these really interesting police cases one of the uh other things that we do on this channel is as you know we post really incredible raw body cam video we posted one a couple days ago out of Dallas Police Department it's incredible really interesting and funny body camera video about Dallas police officers interacting with an individual who is not only is he a fake cop but he's also there's some Stolen Valor in there too it's really interesting um getting a lot of views so definitely go ahead and watch that body camera video and if you haven't already you can go ahead and follow me over at police law news pretty much everywhere all right so again want to welcome everyone back in and we're going to talk about three officer involved shooting cases and you know a lot of times the cases that we cover are controversial cases what I mean by that is you know there's some question as to whether or not that these officer involved shootings are within policy or within the law and you know those are interesting cases that a lot of people like and a lot of times those become national news so the typically there are cases where if you follow police type news this is the kind of case that you know everybody might know about so that's one of the reasons why we cover it but however today the cases that we're going to cover that there all three are Justified officer involved shootings that's my opinion about these cases and to me it's not close and looking at some of the media reports on these cases there really isn't a whole lot of push back on these cases except for the first one that we're going to talk about and even then they really aren't people aren't really criticizing the officer who pulled the trigger they're more criticizing a backup officer who maybe didn't do what they should have done so we're going to go ahead and talk about all all of these cases want to welcome everybody back in really curious to see uh where you're from boom news good to see you back uh let's see Oscar good to see you as well so again so this first case we're going to talk about happen in Morris Illinois on September 28th 2023 and again this is a case where you know it would be even though I follow this stuff we have this body camera Channel it would be impossible for me and and for the the staff here over at Copwatch TV to know about every single officer involved shooting that happens all over the country that that really wouldn't be that really wouldn't be um um something that we are able to um talk about every single one or know about every single one however this one happened in Morris Illinois which is somewhere somewhere 45 minutes to an hour outside of Chicago as a lot of you know I grew up in the Chicagoland area but now I live in the southwest half for just about the last two decades however my sister still lives in Chicago she's a nurse out there about to be a nurse practitioner so the only reason I found out about this case is because she sent me a message she sent me a message uh uh uh earlier this week asking me what my thoughts were about this case so um we're going to go ahead and talk about it so again this happened uh hey cjun Randy good to see you back this happened on September 28th 2023 over in uh Morris Illinois again that's about a 45 minutes to an hour outside of Chicago with an individual named Olivia Schwab who's a 40-year-old female now a little bit about Miss Schwab so she suffered from bipolar disorder and schizophrenia she was actually living in a residential treatment uh facility where she basically had round the-clock care with mental health professionals um She was recently released from that um when she was released from that she went to try to get her life back together she was living in an apartment um while she was living in this apartment she hadn't been released from this treatment facility for all that long uh she called her Mental Health Counselors and she told them and essentially she was threatening suicide by knife um it was at that point that the Mental Health Counselors went ahead the Mental Health Counselors went ahead and um called for police officers who responded to the scene now I know that there's some controversy over this and I think it's important to talk about about hey when someone is in a legitimate Mental Health crisis our police officers the best tool our police officers the really the the ones who we should be sending to calls for service like this and that's an interesting conversation there are different models around the country which we've talked about but what I think is important for everyone to know that police officers when you show up to work and you're putting on your uniform you go to whatever calls that they happen that the dispatcher tell tells you to go to so the idea of the conversation of well police officers shouldn't go to these kinds of calls that is not the fault of cops in uniform who are just showing up to work that is the fault of and really the responsibility of the politicians who run the police department um uh just sweet says no police are not educated and mental health issues just sweet Okay police officers may not be educated you know as much as we would like in mental health issues but what happens if someone is in a mental health crisis and there armed with a weapon a knife or a gun that you really don't you really can't put unarmed mental health counselors in a situation like that because it's not safe so so what um Steve Ladner says hey Steve good to see you back here um so one of the things that um so again it's not up to the police officers who are just who are just showing up to work but it's also um uh you know really it's the politicians who run and manage the police department are the ones who determine who goes to what call so police officers are sent to this call now because there was a threat of a knife being there that because there was a threat of a knife being there and that she was threatening to harm herself with a knife the idea that you're going to send unarmed Mental Health Counselors as the First Responders doesn't make in the country where that would be a thing in in everywhere you would at least call police officers they had a conversation before they made contact with M Schwab which is one of the things that we like to see this is one of the things that we want to see is police officers having a conversation and really talking about and really talking about what they are going to do before the Emer that means is is that they're going to have multiple different options available which is what we want police officers to do the male officer said I'm going to have lethal which means he's going to be armed with a handgun and he's asking the female police officer to essentially um to essentially be armed with a taser to be armed with a taser and that's how they were going to approach it and that's that's exactly and that's exactly what we want um police officers to do in a situation like this so officers get get unseen the male officer is armed with his handgun however the female police officer for whatever reason she does not take out her taser she still has the taser holstered as they get on scene they're walking through the parking lot and even before they get to the apartment door um Miss Schwab is standing outside the door she's still on the phone um with her mental health counselor but she has a 9-in knife in her hand um it it's at that point that um police officer the male police officer starts giving her commands he tells her to stop he tells her to dro the knife over and over and over again and instead of listening to the police officer and dropping the knife which again would have essentially avoided all violence which is the goal in these cases because we all want these cases to end with less violence we don't want police officer to get hurt we don't want citizens to get hurt we don't want anybody to be harmed and so her dropping the knife that would have made this so there would be essentially no violence between the police officers and Mish Schwab however that didn't happen Mish Schwab kept the knife not only only did she not listen to the police officer about dropping the knife but she Advanced but she Advanced towards the police officer she starts walking towards the police officer now the police officer doesn't just like stand his ground and stand there and start barking commands he's pleading with her to drop the knife and he's walking backwards so again that's dangerous in and of itself because if you're walking backwards you can't necessarily see what's behind you you could trip over anything that happens to be behind you and if someone is bearing down on you with a knife that's an incredibly dangerous thing to do but he does it so the police officer is walking backwards quickly Miss Schwab is advancing towards the police officer with the knife during this the officer who is armed with a handgun which is appropriate for a deadly threat which is a knife he tells the female officer Taser Taser Taser so the officer who's armed with lethal Force he's telling the other police officer he's telling the other police officer to use a Taser now he can't force her to use a Taser this isn't AI there's no remote control where that one police officer officer can force the actions of another police officer but he's telling her to operate the taser to tase Miss swab and to hopefully end it right there however the officer the female officer then she does start to she she starts she kind of starts to listen to the male officer what I mean by that is she unholsters the taser so here's the thing she should have had the taser out in the first place she should have been completely armed with that taser in the first place so she she arms herself with a taser she she turns it on and you could see that she's kind of bumbling with the taser how so before so it seems like she's probably going to tase Mish Schwab which would have been the best outcome obviously right Tas Miss Schwab she drops the knife they get her in handcuffs no one's seriously hurt that's what we all want with this however before the officer can manipulate the functions on the taser and to actually use it before that happens Miss Schwab gets between 8 to 10 feet away from the police officer and she starts to run towards him now you have a 9-in knife and you're 8 to 10 feet away from the officer in my opinion the officer let her get too close um but the officer let her get too close um however if anything that just shows that the officer was going out of his way to not have to use that um the officer lets her the officer lets her get um within uh within 8 to 10 feet at 8 to 10 feet she goes from a quick walk to a run it's at that point that the police officer shoots um I'm going to take a little break here and and and and comment on a comment here take a little deviation here because Ciro's too 34 said the 21 foot rule and yes that thank you so much for mentioning it that is exactly correct now what I mean by that is exactly correct is that that is training that police officers have it's called the tuler drill t l l e r it's called the tuler drill when I was in the police academy back in two 2005 we we did the we did the tuler drill um and it's something that I'm not sure if it's still done by police departments but you know it's a reasonable thing and let me explain a little bit about what this is it's it's it's it's it's yeah curos 234 you're 100% it's when it's holstered so basically here's what the here's what the drill is uh you have an indiv you have a police officer who has the gun holstered now in this case the gun was not holstered the officer did have his handgun out however she was not 21 feet away okay so it's if if a police officer has their gun holstered if someone is standing 21 feet away or closer and if they're armed with a knife and if that person starts running towards the police officer that person is able to in almost every single situation able to stab the police officer before the officer can draw out and fire a single shot that's the 21 foot rule so when you hear the 21 foot rule that's what it's based on now it's not an exact science but as a police officer especially if you're dealing with people who are armed with knives knives it's something to know like hey okay this guy's armed with a knife he's with he's about 15 feet away from me you know what that might be too close so so again it's not a hard and fast rule it's not exact science but but it's a good drill to do it's reasonable you can even do it with your kids you know pretend like pretend like you're you're drawing out have them stand with like a stick or something put them 21 feet away have them run towards you and see if you can draw out now in the moment you may not realize that someone is running towards you and in this drill you would know that they're running towards you and even then it's really difficult to fire one shot before you are stabbed and a lot of times you know bulletproof vests they're bulletproof they're not knife prooof so knives are extremely dead deadly for everyone including police officers so this is a case where so this this this is this is a case where um you know the police officer fired he waited literally until the last second my opinion he let her get too close um also you know he wanted the officer to tase and he didn't um so you know um the female um the female police officer um you know did not utilize the taser if you watch the body camera video what it seems like to me is that she just wasn't prepared so Morris Illinois is a small town um and maybe she'd never been in a situation like this I don't know I just know that when you go into a situation like this when one police off you have a conversation and you agree to be less lethal less lethal Force option that means have that Force option out and ready to go um that's what I would have preferred so um yeah boom news yeah so he fired three shots um Mish Schwab um did end up uh uh uh uh she was deceased after that um after that officer involved shooting but you know the police officer was in a point again she has a 9-in knife and she's bearing down on him running from 8 to 10 ft away I mean there was nothing he could do um even in the lawsuit that was filed um the the most of the of the criticism in the lawsuit and again attorneys aren't honest right but even in the lawsuit most of the criticism was to the female officer saying that she should have tased the individual now which is which is strange because again in the last couple weeks we we've covered I think three different cases where police officers were charged with crimes after tasing someone so again now we have a this is why it's always talk about dis honest criticism it's like if a police officer tases someone early in an incident which I think is always the better thing to do so things don't have involved in an officer involved shooting but if a police officer tases someone early in an incident attorneys are going to sue police officers and say that it wasn't necessary it it was excessive force but now we have a case where an officer doesn't tase someone and now they're saying well how come you didn't tase the person earlier so again it's really dishonest criticism I I talk about that kind of stuff all the time but this is objectively a situation where the female officer should have utilize the taser it seemed like the male officer wanted to the attorney wanted her to and also the female officer was trying to get the taser out she just didn't do it quick enough um because she wasn't ready to go um you know when I talked about this case on some of my social media media channels earlier this week people said well you this is not like serious people even though defense attorneys um or or plaintiffs attorneys who are representing people who are shot by police officers they're not I mean they know what they're talking about they're just dishonest I mean they have to lie because they're representing the best interest of their client they're not trying to get at the actual truth and I think we all know that's that's the case um but you know we just talking to random people who obviously have no police education or experience they're saying why didn't the police officer shoot her in the Leger in the foot well that's absolutely ridiculous um it's almost laughable you know it's one of those things when I'm going back and forth with someone on Twitter or Instagram or Facebook or something like that and someone says the officer should have shot them in the foot I almost stopped the conversation right there because that's the point where I know this isn't a serious person or this is just a shockingly uneducated person the reason why police officers can't shoot they're watching too many movies if if that's what you think okay um too many old western movies where the police officer shoots someone in the pinky toe you know is they're drawn like that's not that isn't reality the reason um we're shooting a gun out of someone's hand that's absolutely ridiculous so the the reason why you can't you can't do that as a I think that's only happened like one time where police officer shot a gun out of someone's hand it wasn't intentional right um so so the the the reason hey officer blue gun how are you good to see you so the reason why police officers can't shoot at someone's leg is because it's a small Target okay F first of all a handgun is lethal Force police officers should not utilize a Lethal Weapon system a deadly force weapon system for non-lethal Force okay that that isn't what police officers should be doing where I'm going with this is that if you're saying the police officer any situation where you say hey an officer should have just shot the person in the leg you should you should basically say the officer should have utilized uh a taser should have used a bean bag shotgun should have used a 40 mil round so so again the idea the idea that police officers are going to use deadly force to shoot someone in the pinky toe it's not reality a trying to hit a small moving Target under stress and lethal situation a taser will do then the police officer should utilize a taser or a bean bag shotgun however if someone is bearing down on you with a knife and they're 8 to 10t feet away with a 9-in knife that's a deadly force situation and police officers should utilize deadly force um this is 100% legal and within the law there's no question that the the attorney said the officer was not in any danger because the knife was pointed downward in a non-threatening manner listen when you have a 9-in knife and you're running towards someone no matter how you are holding it that's going to be a threatening manner saying it's non-threatening is a silly level of dishonesty um so yeah so really curious about your comments Han comments on on that one uh let's see um let's see Steve says people with common sense will create distance the officer did that um the officer was walking backwards um as she was walking towards him and then she started to run towards the police officer so yeah police officer in this case did have common sense um the only thing the officers could have done is refus to go and say hey hey there's a call a woman she's in a mental health crisis she's armed with a knife yeah I'm going to refuse to go to that call sorry that would be the only option the the police officer had um but officers were sented that call and um they had a good plan in my opinion the female officer was not ready to go with her part of the plan she should have utilized a taser and tased uh hopefully successfully tased M Schwab that would have involved all injury and and certainly would have um uh hopefully caused mwap to not die because typically tasers don't kill people officer Blu gun says a SWAT sniper shot a gun out of a suicidal guy's hand sitting in the middle of an intersection yeah absolutely and that's a pretty rare thing to do officer blue gun as you know um but yeah a SWAT sniper um being able to to sit there that's that's possible um but uh yeah a normal cop as you know um that isn't a reasonable thing to do um all right so the next case that we're going to talk about is daret brown um so again so this case again if any of the cases were controversial meaning that some people might think that yeah well why were the police officers doing that um that you know the that that that was the first one again the majority of the CR criticism is towards the female cop not the cop who fired the gun I think everyone realized that was the reasonable and the right thing for the officer to do it was the female officer not utilizing the taser however these next two cases there really isn't any any question about what the officer should have done however if there's some is some uh discussion or debate I'd really be be curious to see what it is so this one happened in San Bernard San Bernardino California on December 10th so it just happened last week involving an individual 35-year-old named dar Brown so what happened here is daret brown is a 35-year-old female she went to an apartment she went to an apartment complex and she went to an apartment complex and she essentially forced her way into um an apartment that was owned by a family friend now the family friend is a grandmother who was home at the house was the grandmother and her three-year-old grandson that's who was home at the house um daret Brown who you know was a family friend you know like like kind of like an acquaintance of the of these of these people she forced her way into the house armed with a gun once she was in the gun she started shooting rounds um she started shooting rounds um in the apartment and then she essentially took the little boy hostage police officers were called to the scene as police officers got there pretty quick as police officers with the San Bernardino Police Department got there um there was a balcony to this apartment they saw Miss Brown was actually on the balcony and as and as she was on the and as she was on the balcony um and as she was on the on the balcony um hang on Bald hand man says blocked me so I couldn't comment came back on a different account yeah is hey bald handyman as long as you act like a reasonable person um you're not going to get blocked but if you say anything you know racist sexist or if you do a bunch of spam you're going to get blocked but if you act like an or if you attacked other people in the chat you know if you can act like a decent human um YouTube has guidelines so also YouTube sometimes ban people so bald handyman if you act like a decent normal human with a different opinion we're going to have a conversation I don't agree with Steve and some other people on a lot of these cases but that's okay we can have a conversation like an adult so so here's the thing bald handyman don't say anything in this chat that you wouldn't say in real life because we know that isn't going to be a whole lot um so in this case the the the the police We Love Steve and we love people who have difference of opinions which is why we invite everyone here which is why we have that chat on in the first place so you guys could tell me where I'm wrong and we can have a so we can have boom news you are always decent uh so we can have a uh uh convers a reasonable conversation anyway so so police officers got there on scene and um daret Brown she's actually on the balcony as police officer walking up to the apartment she's on the balcony she actually points the gun at the police officers and the police officers do not fire at her they do not shoot but she does quickly point the gun at police officer she then Retreats back into the apartment um the apartment is locked at this time so the police officers knowing that the 3-year-old grandson is in there with someone who you know had been shooting a gun they don't waste any time police officers kick open the door which is the right thing to do as police officers kick open the door they see that Miss daret Brown is standing on a bed pointing a hand gun at the head of a three-year-old child again police officers don't waste any time and they shoot Miss Brown multiple times so she falls down they give her she's still alive they give her commands to drop the gun and she refuses she's still hanging on to the gun so they shoot her a couple more times until she does drop the gun and she does end up dying um and um that was that uh she does die from her injuries and this is one of those cases where the police officers were simply just Heroes I mean you have to think about it here we have a case where you know someone is firing a gun they're pointing a gun not only at a three-year-old but at police officers and police officers aren't wasting any time and knowing that a three-year-old is behind this is basically like the the the anti- Uvalde cops right so in so in in this case police officers know that police officers know that someone is in there with a gun to a three-year-old and um they kick open the door knowing that they could be shot and take rounds as they enter they don't care um they don't care they enter and this isn't like a again this isn't a SWAT team it's not like this is a SWAT team with shields and all kinds of crazy like that it's not these are just regular street cops who showed up to that call for service who are just wearing their uniform and their normal uh bulletproof vest they did have a normal force array um but they were able to end this situation exactly as it should have with the three-year-old child not being injured no police officers were injured and the person who was pointing a gun and and and had uh posing a deadly threat to to the three-year-old that th those individuals um were uh that individual was killed by police officers again I tried to find um I did a Google search trying to find like the family of daret brown just to see if there was anything that they said to criticize the police officers nothing zero and this is really representative of the vast majority of police shootings happened like this the controversial ones where it could go one way or another those are the cases that we typically cover because I like having that conversation um however this one um was exactly what police officers should do and those cops are heroes um uh bald handyman says uh let's see uh uh bring me into the live stream yeah that's not how we do it um we don't have guests on the show bald handyman and um listen if we were going to have a guest on the show it would not be the craziest most awful person in the chat um I would have officer blue gun I would have boom news I would have Steve Ladner I really think it'd be interesting to have Steve one day um if we ever do this because I like having the conversation again the reason why I do this show the reason why we have the chat on is because we like to have conversations I invite people I'm telling you right now if there are people who you think disagree with me great invite them in I would really like to have conversations uh uh uh I would really like to uh have uh uh them in here and bald handyman what was your MOS um why don't you go ahead and put put that in there um uh boom news says how scary to kick in the door yeah boom news that's one of those things so I i' I've had to do that a couple times working as a police officer like I said I was on the street for about I was on the street for about uh 15 years and um there's a couple times where I had to kick in a door because there was an emergency going in on the other side and you don't know what you're going to see you know it's one of those things you don't know you don't know what you're going to see and um yeah so this was a scary situation um thankfully um the the the the police officers were able to save save uh the um little the three-year-old child uh all right in this last case we're going to talk about this happened in St Paul Minnesota um and you know I've talked about Minnesota before so I went to law school in St Paul Minnesota spent a bunch of time there so I I have a I have an affinity for Minnesota even though I grew up in Chicago did law school in Minnesota I really like the St Paul area now I graduated law school back in 2019 um so really so I graduated and finished my law school time in St Paul Minnesota right before all the BLM George Floyd craziness started because I really didn't have to deal with any of that I think I've actually only been back to Minnesota you know I actually haven't been I haven't been back to Minnesota since since uh since that happened so um uh I haven't experienced any of that but I really do like the St Paul area so this happened on December 7th so this just happened recently and if you get a chance this body camera footage is absolutely yeah exactly boom news don't you know yeah my wife's family is from South Dakota and they sound like they should be on an episode of Fargo it's absolutely crazy but they don't think that they do but they absolutely sound like that it's it's it's great um so this case happened on December 7 2023 in St Paul Minnesota um uh with an individual named Brandon keys so again this is one of those cases where you know if you think the police officers did something wrong like I'm I'm I'm really curious to see what you think the officers should do because again that's kind of my thing we should criticize police officers if they do something wrong if they violate if they violate something and they don't do something correctly let's talk about it but it's too easy to say that well if you like police officers you're you're a a Bo bootlicker or cops are racist or or aab that really isn't interesting or honest criticism here's what I would like to see because this is what this is this is how adults talk about these kinds of things where you say this is what the police officer didn't say I think this was wrong the cop shouldn't have done that and then point to training policy or law to say exactly exactly what um uh policy or law and uh say exactly what um uh what the police officer should have done um yeah so us uh so let's go ahead and talk about talk about this case um uh oh my goodness uh uh okay all right so we're going to go we're GNA go ahead and talk about this case it's a Brandon Keys um so so basically this was a case where a dayshift in St Paul and um day shift in St Paul and there was a call for service that went out over the radio and and essentially what the call was is that a woman called a woman called in and said that uh uh she has a restraining order or an order of protection uh against her ex-boyfriend and that he is armed with a gun and she is currently in her vehicle and he is ramming his vehicle into her vehicle that's why she called for police officers so this is the kind of call this isn't going to hold this isn't like a shoplifting that happened or or you know telephone harassment or people calling about their neighbors trash cans these aren't calls that are going to be sitting and stacking you know for hours when a call like this comes in dispatch cops are going to get there quick this is going to be dispatched first because it's an emergency happening in the moment someone there's an order of protection so we know that a judge has already I mean we have to believe the woman at her word right um otherwise you know dispatch typically runs the names you know verifies that before the officer gets unseen but let's assume it's true because in this case it was true so you have someone who has an order of protection you have someone who has an order um of protection and yeah some departments have like realtime crime centers where they can actually you know go through this data in real time as officers are being dispatched which is a which is a great thing to do um for police departments to have that a lot of progressive and and modern police departments have that um so it's um so in in this case like I said an order of protection that's already should should Spike something that hey there's already an order for this person to not be around this woman and he's violating that so the woman's already in danger the caller is already in danger he's armed with a gun which you're not supposed to have and that's dangerous on its own and then he's literally ramming his car into her car that's what the police officer's dispatched to and officer asent um officer uh to to shida um I'm probably not saying that right tsch uh so there's like five consonant the name starts with a tscha officer tasida if I'm not saying it correctly I apologize but officer tasida is dispatched and this is one of those things a call like this you would like more than one police officer to go there because again this is a dangerous scene not just for the victim but also for police officers but officer tasida he doesn't wait for backup he doesn't say hey okay uh the calls happen here let's go meet two blocks down and then we'll all Caravan there together no he just goes he just goes by himself and listen when another cop gets there another cop gets there but there's an emergency and I'm going right now that is exactly what we want police officers to do and this is why there's still a place for the warrior culture in policing it's because of officers like this who respond quickly to calls like this don't wait for backup they just go and they try to save lives in the moment so officer tasida is is dispatched as he gets as he gets there um he basically sees the two cars he sees a description of the vehicle um and he and he immediately sees it in the middle of this intersection in the middle of the day so he gets out of the car and he starts giving commands to the individual and really getting out of his car after like two or three seconds he yells oh and as soon as he says oh gunshots start flying and he's actually shot in the leg so bad guy Brandon Keys 24-year-old shoots the officer to shida in the leg he stays in the fight okay this officer he doesn't he doesn't lay down he doesn't Retreat to the back of his car immediately as soon as he is shot in the leg he says oh because he sees what's going to happen he essentially can say oh before he can respond and be before he can respond and and return fire so so he is shot one time in the leg the first round hits him in the leg he immediately exchanges gunfire with Brandon keys and he shoots him in the head um and and Brandon Keys is down now the thing about it is Brandon Keys he's down but he falls behind his car so there's essentially Brandon Keys is falling on the ground he's behind his car and then you have officer to to to shida who essentially can't see what's happening so can't see behind the car so he's pretty sure he shot Brandon keys but he's not 100% sure where he shot him if he's down is he reloading is this going to be an ambush if I try to go in and check on him so this is a really dangerous situation as again he was shot in the leg so it was at that point that he gets on the radio he tells dispatch that there were shots fired and he he lets officers know or dispatch know that he was hit and he requests Medics to get on scene now if that listen if that isn't chaotic enough what happens then is the female and any police officers on here are going to know exactly what I'm talking about it it's it's it's it's this syndrome where you know you have someone you arrest a dude for domestic violence you know you give her the woman the domestic violence packet you give her all of the different resources three months later you're in court and they're in court next to each other holding hands it's extremely yes adults should be able to do what they want fine it's extremely frustrating um for police officers as it would be for anyone who sees the same thing over and over again um especially when you want to make sure that people are safe um what what what happens next in in in in in this case is the female leaves her car which now is on the other side of the street and she runs towards him so officer tasida doesn't know again if the bad guy is is he alive is he dead is he reloading is he just wounded is he trying is he waiting for the officer to pop his head his to pop his head around the car so he could shoot him so the officer doesn't know so she keeps the woman keeps running towards towards the Brandon Keys who's on the ground the officer saying get out of here like I can't render Aid get Medics over there until you're out of the scene again she's not helping not making this any better um eventually yeah she does she she she the officer eventually um you know again I would say that officer safety wise and again it's it's it's he was doing it in an effort to try to render Aid to save Brandon Key's life and to keep the victim safe I get it um but really in a situation like that wait until there's a couple other officers there because your life is is not worth risking again to go and see if this guy needs help no no no you need to make sure that the situation is safe so um but officer Keys selflessly just like or I'm s officer tasida selflessly just like he was selfless on this entire call for service um he does go around there he does get possession of the gun he checks on the condition of Mr Keys Medics come um and the female you know essentially is so distraught um is so distraught um she jumps on the officer's back like she's mad at the officer for again this is like a Banna Taylor situation it's like like you're mad at the officer for not exactly like bri Taylor but it's like you're mad at the officer for returning fire after they were shot in the leg that's a little silly now I get in the moment you know her horrible disgusting awful boyfriend has been shot and killed by police officers so she's not in the right state of mind I get it okay um but um uh yeah that was uh that was the end of that case and you know again I don't think there's anything different that the officer could have done I mean this was he gets on scene to a high priority stressful domestic violence situation happening in the middle of an intersection with an armed offender and as soon as he gets out of his car within literally within two seconds of getting out of his car he's shot by the offender in the leg the idea that the officer is going to return fire um is a completely reasonable thing um there's not really anything else um for that police officer to do it's a Justified shooting um officer toshido will recover he will be okay that's what all the news reports said bad guy is dead and the victim is safe as well um let's see if there's any other comments about this case uh let's see Steve Ladner says uh do you depend on self-proclaimed Heroes for protection that's a good that's a good uh that's a good comment Steve I think you know I think that's an important thing to so do I depend on do I depend on self-proclaimed Heroes for protection well me I'm going to say typically not and here's why I'm 41 years old um you know I've been a cop for um you know just about just about 20 years I have a bunch of guns my wife is a really good shooter as well um we have two giant dogs um so I'm I most of the time I think that I'm pretty safe um I'm pretty safe I think that I'm capable protecting myself now does that just because I'm capable protecting myself should I assume that everybody is capable of protecting themselves no that would be an unreasonable thing so my my wife is a physical therapist she works uh with people who have developmental disabilities her 26 or 30 clients that she has because these are people who have Down syndrome and and and CP and all kinds of other developmental problems these are people who literally cannot defend themselves yes so these are the kinds of people who do need protection from police for protection from cops from from the state yes um I I can I can imagine a situation where there's an 85-year-old woman who lives alone like mine two Nextdoor neighbors they're two individuals they've been married for about 70 years they're it's an older couple in their 90s yes now do they now now now Ernest who lives next door to me he's a 4y old guy okay he was in the he was in the military listen 70 years ago I wouldn't have with Ernest okay I guarantee you he could kick everybody's ass in this chat when he was 70 years ago but he's not he's 94 years old so if someone breaks into Ernest house at 2:00 in the morning because we kind of live in in a in a violent city even though in nice area in a violent city yes is Ernest going to call police officers should we have police officers so the couple in their 90s are safe yes of course people with disabilities who can't defend M El yes of course a mother or or a father with four children who don't have any military or or or police experience yes of course those kinds of people should depend on should depend on um uh should depend on uh uh uh police officers for protection it it's unreasonable just because me as a regular 41y old guy who has police training and a lot of weapons and huge dogs just because I don't need police protection all the time doesn't mean that other people don't that's answer to your question Steve uh let's see um any other questions on here on this case no I don't I don't think we have any um so so those are the cases that I wanted to cover um you know all three cases today and that isn't always that isn't always uh the the case of of what of what happens um so I say boom news says police usually come after the crime has been committed oh you're 100% boom news yeah I mean there's again there's there's so the city that I live in has uh you know about uh 550,000 people we have maybe 9900 cops you know 3 to 400 work on patrol split across three shift with days off um yeah you can have an area of the town that has 100,000 people and maybe there's six cops working so yeah so the idea that police officers are psychics and are going to be no that's not Reon yeah yeah know you're 100% right most of the time police officers come after a crime was committed I mean that that's just the reality of the Paradigm that we're living in um we do have most police departments have uh uh proactive detective units and and and and and traffic officers who who you know try to do things you know to try to prevent crime you know that that's a great thing to do but um yeah I mean most of the time police officers are answering calls to 911 not just knowing where it is uh not knowing where it's going to happen so that you're 100% correct on that most of the time cops get there after a crime has been committed sometime like in three of the cases we talked about today those officers got there as a crime was still being committed um so like I I said uh throughout the week if you want to go ahead and if there are any interesting officer involved shootings or just other controversial or or interesting police cases that I didn't cover that you would like us to cover next week go ahead and put it in the chat the chat is something that I essentially check throughout the week so definitely go ahead and put it in there and again if you haven't already please go ahead and subscribe to our Channel and go ahead and from watch that video from a couple days ago an incredible really interesting and funny uh body camera video of a Dallas police officer dealing with someone uh was not only a fake cop but also had some uh Stolen Valor on his resume and uh trying to uh trying to uh uh during uh during a dispute with um a bunch of different people uh it's an Incredible video go go ahead and give that one a watch boom news thank you so much really appreciate it and like I said definitely go ahead and put in the chat um f go ahead and please subscribe to our Channel at Copwatch TV and if you want to go ahead and follow me you can uh just about anywhere over at police law news I hope that everyone has a great and safe weekend and we will see you next Friday thank you
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