he literally pull over our
captain captain was on the highway and
this guy was lighting him up like hey
don't don't pass me I'm a police officer
he's got no plate on his
car and looks like he was trying to run
away from Captain after he identified
himself as a police officer look he was
backing up as as Galo pulled
in let me talk to Captain I'm not a
level three security officer I'm above a
level three so you're not considered a
police officer corre I am not no you're
in the City of Albuquerque you're
somewhere you're not supposed to be you
are not a police officer correct you
cannot do that if you would like to
become a police officer we are hiring
[Music]
yeah I'll watch
this s vehicle I am identified
as I can't I have my in the
truck
[Music]
your why you shaking
right
here because there's a dog right there
and I'm afraid that I might put
my
hands stes coming up right now you
should the inate is not private
property you don't run anything
man 4
thep
[Music]
here 54 Z I've got the RP inside I got
the got the white vehicle
here
how you doing
sir up officer Gall State Police who are
you with do you have your identification
card everything I sorry to bother you
but this guy's been following me and
this okay so I understand you were swing
traffic down on the highway
no you sure about that 100% you and pull
that out please how you doing sir good
your name in charge I'm in Sergeant okay
what's your name
sirant okay sir I was told that you were
using your car like you were a police
officer no well you should have showed
it right in my truck I told you to show
it in your truck you're on private
property right now you have your
driver's license sir I'm not giving it
you have that okay well I'm in charge of
this right now okay in charge of what
I'm charged this property and other
property okay and that's fine but over
there on the highway where you lit up
cars and you were using your car like a
police car there's no proof okay hear me
out I'm investigating something right
and if you refuse to give me your
driver's
license I can detain you and arrest you
okay detain me then okay turn around no
no
don't resist hey knock it
off go hav't done anything wrong don't
man don't do
it done anything wrong well then why are
you resis now you're resisting arrest
now you're
resisting could have just gave me your
ID gave you
ID could have given me your driver's
license Lo it I understand that all
right let you know give me a favor you
have any other weapons on you well M
okay got
Max any other weapons sir
m is that recording yes excellent does
it recording on the highway does all
right cuz I yet to hear my post
okay don't move well stay there's
nothing in there I have nothing else I
still got to check you without gloves
yeah I don't care what you got where do
you keep your C ke where you get your
cup Keys they're all
my check I mean this could have gone a
lot easier man it was
easier I gave you my ID and that's who I
was I asked for your driver's license
you refused yes sir cuz I didn't break
the law yes sir no sir I didn't okay
well I was investigating you breaking
the law okay but that's still not
breaking the law
right nothing else all right do me a
favor have a seat here on the sidewalk
no I don't want to sit I'd rather just
stand I'll be you could sit in the back
of a car or on the sidewalk I'll be
sitting here sit down sit down or in the
back back of a car wait you pick one can
you back of a car or right here can you
fix this one real fast my
left on my a little bit handcuffs are
not meant to be comfortable man I know
do you want to sit on the sidewalk or in
the back of a unit how about if I lean
against the unit you can sit on the
sidewalk or in the back of a unit if I
just lean on a unit back the I have a
bad back from my rack well we'll be
gentle all right okay have a seat all
right where can I get get your driver's
license it's in my wallet where's your
wallet yeah I got it you it on the floor
all right have a
seat I don't know why you want to argue
with man I didn't light up [ __ ] okay he
has no proof I didn't light up anything
okay I was coming to work every time I
come to work I [ __ ] clocked in right
here 56 that's all I do watching
yep
sh I take care of these people here from
a guy getting
FR all these people here with cleaning
house here that's it I have no warrants
I have
nothing that's all I the card the card
you presented
us what what powers does that give you
I'm a PO okay which gives me I'm not a
level three security officer I'm above a
level three secur so you're not
considered a police officer corre I am
not no you understand you understand
that by when we were asking for your ID
we're you're under investigation you
were asking for your ID under
investigation if I
committed that's what we're
investigating which is why we asked your
ID refuse to give it can you just we'll
adjust in a minute this is why you're in
cuff oh it's my watch want to take your
watch off yeah turn
around there you go much
better oh yeah that's okay so I didn't
light up anybody J
make sure I these so are they locked no
no let me let me L lock them so they
don't actually double tighten on
you so I didn't light anybody up all
right I live in Edgewood I come here I
CL in this is my first post then we go
to Central and we go to Central and
Eubank and we just run all of those all
the way down to uh the hill
I didn't light them up I didn't do
anything I know that's against the law
to oppose as an officer I'm a PO for the
state I work for this company and we're
cleaning house here Jo me ask you how
long you work for them how long have you
been in
po I've been in PO for a month and I've
worked here
for uh 3 weeks three weeks okay yeah and
then uh prior to that I was a a private
uh well security overseas security okay
military well not military then but 28
years military okay so he started
following me and started [ __ ] getting
close and getting
close I asked him to show his ID he
refused to show his
ID and so I started backing
up look yesterday last night we busted a
guy that there's so much [ __ ] here there
was a rape there was a stabbing there
was a guy yesterday that I busted that
went into the into the place of the
uh what is it the laundry map next to
the laundry map he went in there then he
tried to carjack somebody so that's what
I do nothing more so I have my
Kine and that's what I do he didn't like
he didn't I don't know what his problem
is but he followed me he tailgated me
and he decided to call you guys that's
it
okay so when he started coming up
towards me then I went towards him and
saw what the problem is because you
didn't know he didn't identify himself
he didn't show his badge he's
shaking that was it nothing more I have
nothing to worry about so I backed
up so over there I came in
here when I'm going to stop
my lights on so traffic could go around
right here in this poet cuz I was going
to go talk to the ladies and let them
know that the guy that went in there
yesterday I even have a photo of him
that uh he went in there in the uh is
they press the close um the laund m not
the laundry M next to it dry cleaner the
dry cleaner he went in there with two
girls not started knocking [ __ ] over so
I always put my lights on
here and
uh to stop traffic well it's took for
traffic to go around and then uh I was
going to go talk to them but I made my
rounds because there's people that sleep
in the trash
cans last week they light up the trash
bin here when you're coming down where
you coming from eding from Ed and then
once I hit here Ed's home yeah and then
once I hit
here I usually go through uh the Smith
entrance like coming into there I guess
and then so I drive around and he
started following me and he you know
when people conf front of especially
here it's a whole different show you
know how it is here so you know and
that's what we did the come the uh
owners hired us to clean house here so
last week there was a rape at McDonald's
who went to uh PN the the bank there
then also there was was fentanyl sold
behind Verizon so that's what we do
that's it I don't need to light anybody
up and so when I was when you guys
stopped me I I was I didn't do [ __ ]
wrong and she said when you asked for my
ID I haven't done anything wrong so
that's why you're your Your
Entertainment we're talking to we're
compling investigation advised you we're
leing an investigation right at that
point you are obligated to provide
yes you are stay now as a p officer you
should know that I do but that's if I
did something wrong though so I had a
guy we we didn't accuse anything we we
simply we simply stated we were
completing an investigation right we had
just started we need to identify who you
are well I apologize then and I and so
then yeah so then when you refuse my
sergeant didn't advise you you'll go on
cuffs right that's good at which point
now you're in C so that's where we're at
right now so this guy so as not saying
that he's an
officer of any kind and he's shaking
really bad he doesn't show his badge he
says it's in this vehicle I'm like okay
well go get it he's like I refuse I'm
not going to get it I'm telling you who
I'm I hey you know what he could have he
could have easily walked up to his your
radio does that can connect to you do
you guys have your own personal dispatch
okay yeah did you call back up call for
no because right now there's only me
coming in early are here scheduled to
work today I am I clock in 2 hours early
today okay I usually try to do one okay
and then they so is there anybody at
your Dispatch Center right now no
there's uh I guess like a lieutenant
Duty or whoever Nam okay yeah in back up
or something man you know what honestly
we do there's a list underneath my uh
thing but we
do ah we do Eubank and Central we do
Louisiana the we do the
Schwans we do all of the
um days in Delina in we do all that [ __ ]
I'm leave clear house so I actually you
kind of a funny question here
so what if this gentleman over here has
proof of you on the
highway what's that not going to me
anything I don't have it I he has no
proof that you know of no because I
wasn't passing because he was
passing at 75 miles hour how did we know
to get over here so fast because he
stopped and was following me I'm just
that's why I'm trying to give you the
benefit of the doubt no I'm giving the
benefit of the doubt because I kicked on
my lights the minute I get here lights
in here is fine this right and this isiv
property and that's exactly what
happened
so I'm just kind of giving you again
yeah if we if we
pulling up right as you're turning
you've only been in here a couple
minutes when he confronts you right
right he stopped me so he's he's over
just a couple minutes no not really a
couple minutes because he follows me
into here right and then I do my usual
rotations he
stops then he starts backing
up right I I pull up behind me I look at
his license plate
so I turn on my lights over here to get
some of the people out like
those right
there and then I
[ __ ] and so he was on his phone so I
turn around I come back around and he's
confronting me right here opens the
doors says he State Police if I heard
that for every dollar you know as an
officer not only is he supposed to show
his badge but he refused to go in his
car I was like show me I backed up I
said show me where the badge is you
doesn't go I mean if he's saying his
badge is
there and even you guys why wouldn't you
show your badge he said it's in no no in
civilian clothes and I gave you the
opportunity i' back up I said go ahead
get in your vehicle okay and show me
your badge then everything would have
been smooth but he didn't want to do
that well I mean you know
coming from a a law enforcement
standpoint if somebody you don't know
who wearing a pistol on their hip right
we're questiones your identification or
your badge am I going to take my eyes
off of you and that gun knowing I'm a
law enforcement officer no but he was
shaking so a lot of time if you're law
enforcement officer you guys deal with
this daily and you're not going to we
don't get Shak right I'm sorry people
are human right mean we don't get sh I
know but I'm not
shaky I mean you know everybody does
stress differently right everyone does
stress different Cor
so you know it a lot of people follow
us and that's
it okay you understand the issue right
and you understand completely who I am
until well you didn't show me your badge
yeah that's it make a difference yeah
right now is what I'm saying you
understand who I am and why I'm talking
to you right now versus a normal victim
would be over there standing there
completely so do you understand it guet
now once you show me your badge okay who
am I or not your badge okay who am I
were your um State Police now yes but
you didn't show that prior I didn't all
right yeah so we're good that's that's
not not necessarily good hang on but you
know you understand the issue and like I
said the reason as I'm talking to you
right now I want you to understand who I
am okay and you're obviously the Kain
okay so I am the captain of New Mexico
State Police in Alber okay okay so so
you're 100% Crystal C my name is nich
you're still
recording you should be if not they're
recording so if you want a copy of this
you don't remember my name don't
remember my name you can get a copy of
the recording so you understand okay but
with that okay you you have every legal
right whenever I tell you hey I'm New
Mexico State please demanded an ID like
you did but the issue behind all of this
is like you acted in a way that made me
think that you were Burn Leo County
Sheriff's whenever you were in on the
highway that's the problem so whenever I
got so when I got to the right your
right front headlight you turn on your
lights and tried to stop me okay that's
how I felt that's why I immedi that's
how why I immediately moved to the right
and then you shut him off so I'm like
okay this is weird number one dude
doesn't have a license plate and now
he's turning his lights on at me that's
why I contact
uh the on duty officer the on duty okay
so and then you continue to do this
little evasive thing there's no evasive
I'm not being evasive this is my this is
my control this is you're assigned right
here I'm not just assigned hang on can
can you hit that side button to shut it
off or tell them yeah hang
on no it's not on that it's on my ear on
my
ear
and
now
he what do you need to call and tell
that you're okay no no no she's the
nurse okay I mean so we come
here and we secure there's a list
underneath my underneath my uh visor so
we secure this we've didn't been hired
two weeks uh it's called Black Eagle
okay this is a company that you work for
this is a company that I just started do
you have a contract with these property
yes okay for the whole land from from
the whole Land from the uh the whole
property by the owners okay so like
yesterday there was there was a rape
last week there was a
stabbing super bad area I understand
right so this is where we come this is
where I come first now let's rewind I
understand what you're saying and like I
said your presence here where you're
dressed your vehicle all of that on
private property just like you said you
own this property this private property
right absolutely valid again going back
to the interstate why did you turn on
your lights on I didn't turn on your
lights on you turn on your blue front
lights whenever I went to your right
front I didn't how did I know they were
blue I don't know okay cool there's
there's [ __ ] all in there so I don't
know if I did I didn't know because I
usually turn on my lights here because I
was going to go to the latest this is
like it's going to things are going to
go really bad you're trying to do a good
thing man you are I understand the
position that you're in I'm not trying
I'm not trying to I'm not let me finish
let me finish okay overall okay what
you're doing as far as the necessity of
of security for this okay you're using
your background and your abilities your
military like all that stuff for good
okay I understand that I applaud that
people like you help us all the time
okay if I had more good people that were
willing to stand up for good people that
are afraid then criminals would run away
would be squashed okay I understand that
right but what you're doing right now
okay by trying to as far as what as far
as lying okay so by oh I didn't turn on
my lights okay so now number one you're
doing is you're trying to make me out to
be a liar I'm not trying to make God to
be a liar just let me finish okay it's
like I'm all about respect okay go ahead
you can ask these guys like they they
want to talk to me they want to even
yell at me I shut up I list because it's
so important what they say okay but you
Sor not all no I understand you're
getting out of the sign so all of this
that you're trying that you're doing
okay on a daily basis to help Society is
going in the toilet because you're
minimizing your actions and you're
failing to own what they did that's
going to change the outcome of this
complete Dr okay because you continue to
lie and you continue to say so what's
going to happen so what do you want me
to say I turn on the lights and then
we're done I want you to be H I don't
know I turn on the lights because
because I have [ __ ] all on there it's no
different than sometimes my
mic coming on by me many you know what
I'm not I'm not playing a game I'm not a
game I would lie I I wouldn't lie at all
just wouldn't lie I have no reason to
lie I have nothing to lose you know what
I mean well actually I do have a lot to
lose if I lie you do but yeah you know
because you're impersonating a police
officer that would be you understand
when you take your oath and whenever you
you are can you take the off it's
obviously extremely uncomfortable I
don't put this hand on your head when I
take it
off
look if they came on then I apologize
but a lot of times I don't know that
it's coming out look at it put
TR not trying to put Integrity I'm very
I have integrity because the problem is
how all this is going to go is it
determin on where this report goes okay
if we deal with an officer okay and that
officer owns his mistake he's truthful
he's
no matter what he does then it's dealt
with we discipline him and we move on
with life but I'm he lies if he lies
then what we do is we go forward or what
I do is I go forward I pull all the
documentation that I Poss to show that
he is a liar and then he all that ly and
a police and then I make sure then I
make sure that he's no longer law
enforcement at all because what I do
once I determine that he's he is a liar
and that is his characters then I go to
the law enforcement board and I
inst the in the state of New
mexic the position you're putting me in
right now okay so you want me just to
say own up to say I
want because this this CRA accidentally
like I hit him I've been doing 22 years
22 years man 22 years in every aspect of
law enforcement that you possibly can
okay from spec ops to like which is our
SW
died okay to no I wasn't SWAT but all
those types of elements okay to
investigations to patrol command
position okay so the whole thing of I
accidentally turned on my mics it
doesn't apply and whenever you try and
Associate it to a mic that you can hit
with your chin like it it's silly
because I've hit my mic okay I've hit my
mic a million different times right I
they've reported me telling bad guys
things on my mind okay that's completely
different from whenever you reach down
with your hand it's probably on your
console someplace down here your light
it's in the center next to where my cup
is okay so for the fact that you turn
them on at the exact time that I get to
the right front to pass you and make me
believe that with that positioning
you're stopping me and then all of a
sudden they turn off whenever I go to
pull over
whenever okay so I I'll tell you so when
I hit the
lights can I show
you as long as you don't okay I'm not
going to sit here light can I show you
yeah let's show me just what I'm saying
is dogs cuz the last thing I want if my
is to have to shoot your dog there any
weapons in the
vehicle and when
I'm try
R so I try to
hit it's not the only time that happens
because I
my and then I got to turn
off take a picture
on can't work no man I have you know I'm
retired have a reason to because you
turning on your lights on the interstate
versus you turning on your lights here
two different things two completely
different things one you're
impersonating police officer one you're
not okay so that's your reason to lie
and it's okay like it's you can continue
to do it it's just part of our job we
deal with people all the time that
choose to take that choose to take this
position whether it's this one or this
one okay and kind of T cross that line
do I understand it are you trying to
control the flow of traffic just like
you're trying to control crime here I
understand it I do I have I respect it a
little bit okay but you don't have the
legal authority to do it is a I do not
so that that is why you understand that
and why you would like but like I said
how all this plays out in the long term
depends determin is determined by your
actions your statements everything like
and you can admit it we can deal with it
like move on or you can continue to play
this little game of accidental cup cup
hit it and whatever honest I'm not
trying to play a game if you want me to
admit it then I'll admit it I want you
to I want you to I'm telling you the
truth I am speaking the truth okay okay
so just be
careful so are we good now if he opens
that door I'm going to grab you and me
and him are going to crawl me and you
are going to crawl in the back of that
cuz I am not about getting
bit yeah just don't s it his name is his
name is Zeus so he doesn't know he is
certified no he doesn't know so we clear
um Quality in uh days
in um Motel 6 with him we busted some
people here with fentanyl in the back M
you know okay do you have any questions
for me I have no questions sir okay do
you have any questions for these
officers
okay so I have some stuff um hey man
next time law enforcement comes up to
you have you ever been a police officer
well I was an LA County Sheriff for 18
months and I quit cuz I didn't want to
do jail time and I only had a few months
left to retire from the Army cuz the
last 14 years I was at Green parade Okay
the reason I'm asking is because uh when
when I ask for your ID typically you
want your driver's license right I
understand you gave me your property ID
we need your driver's license it has the
number on there so we can identify you I
don't know what the point was in
refusing or asking me to detain you and
Lou doing that but just so you know I
can charge you for that if I choose to
secondly the pulling away from us as
we're trying to detain you you know what
that's called it's called resisting
arrest I don't know why you would think
to do that I don't know why you would
think to get in more trouble you know
what I mean next time law enforcement
comes up to you honestly it was probably
just out of a
habit not resisting you guys but where
mind Lal work
was I mean clearly you can see came back
you got three marked units coming up I'm
clearly in uniform I only saw one even
still one that came up even still when
you were resisting you were standing
there I was standing there you were
looking that way you see that you know
this one's here and there's three police
officers in front of you including him
who's already identified himself as a
police officer even though he's not
wearing uniform no it's not even that he
wasn't wearing uniform it was that he
didn't get his ID at the moment and he
was shaking understand and you know how
many people that I've dealt with here
that are shaking when they're confronted
I I get the confusion you know he could
have and I'm not blaming but he could
have said hey you know what special
forces for how long 14 years 14 years
out of 28 somebody go goes into any part
of a combative situation what does their
body naturally do depends on the person
exactly but it depends on the person the
the difference is is the more combat
that you have like violent combat okay I
was unarmed you were armed okay my body
dumped a shitload of adrenaline because
it was naturally preparing for fight
just like you said so you can play that
game again don't minimize what you're
what you're like or Justify I'm sorry
I'm not trying to justify it's just
you're doing good for the community by
lying it's like it's taking your
credibility and it's destroying it and
like understand that like you're doing
good right quit lying right be a good
person and that's and that's why I talk
to P Castell is because he went to high
school with my wife and he told me P
cettas yeah and he told me well now he
works for the government again and he
told me to do you know to do this
because this is actually not the first
this is the first time asking for
working for a security company instead
of working for a place called Academy or
you know different things for going
overseas as a security contractor so you
know it's a learning thing but you know
I
apologize you know I apologize to you
guys but you know I
I I just come from a different world
well if don't make statements like that
just future reference because what
you're what you're saying is that you
can't
perform no yeah no no no I understand
that yeah yeah yeah so if one of these
guys were to tell me hey man I'm just
used to combat I'm just used to fighting
cool will not job's not for you you
exactly that's what you okay well I just
messed up so like chill out don't try
and justify your
okay in any way shape or form
okay are we good no um you're actually
going to be I'm not charging you for
resisting or concealing ID however we
are charging you for impersonating a
police officer we're going to write you
a citation there's going to be a report
you have a court date all that stuff
officer power is getting that ready for
you right now he'll bring it to you and
he'll explain it to you in a minute it
is a full MISD demeer just so you're
aware and just to clarify you can use
your lights and your Authority here
you're in the parking lot wherever your
private property that you're contracted
to be if you're on the highway you're in
the City of Albuquerque you're somewhere
you're not supposed to be you are not a
police officer you cannot do that if you
would like to become a police officer
we're hiring great but until then you
need to use your Authority correctly
also I have a question why' your license
plate in your door I don't know I don't
know not my vehic not my
vehicle I mean I I understand what
you're saying but
you know
the I just got the vehicle so I'm
the sorry where do you pick it up I take
it home I take it home so they gave it
so they gave it to me to take it home
because I have when did they give it to
you two weeks two weeks ago so you've
been driving me for two weeks and notice
that there was a license it was in the
trunk when I put my Geer in so I put it
in there and I haven't put in
there yeah I know where it's go
so you knowingly move your license plate
from the trunk to your door when did you
do
that been driving it a week on the
interstate you coffe I do you been
driving out on the interstate for a week
for so even if it is a company's car
you're responsible for that car the
registration the insurance and all that
stuff doesn't matter whose car you're
driving you're supposed to have that
stuff
right I guess I guess so yeah as far as
that a company wasn't sure but personal
vehicles yes essentially it's a private
company it's not a government agency is
it even government
agencies I don't 516 you
calling all right sir there's your copy
there's your
ID uh you understand what you need to do
I do
call go to court very last right
here address phone number and date and
time okay so that is the okay got
it and 401 lus is the no 40 lus is that
the blue scrip it's going to be the uh
building on the North West the other one
with the okay got it all right Jens
guess that's it thank you
sir thank
you time
you have any questions no questions give
a I just yeah everything is in the trunk
one with your watch your
wallet your uh your magazines everything
and one set of your
cuffs power do you have his IDs yeah
I might two ID for
job
sir those your copy of your IDs uh you
understand what you need to do I do
call it's on the bottom part very left
right
here address phone number and date and
time yeah date okay so that is the okay
got
it and 401 lus is the that's the address
No 41 lus is at the blue strip it's
going to be the uh building on the
northwest corner the other one with the
okay got it all right Jens guess that's
it yes sir all right cool thank you all
sir I said next time make it easier we
don't have to put you in handcuffs we
did not have to do that could have just
talked like normal people just like we
are
now times my wife doesn't say I'm normal
what's that times my wife doesn't say my
nor I'm normal well my ex-wife
not wies have a good day all right you
have a good one thank you for your
service man hey did it for the benefits