what are you reaching for you're done get on the ground the off me on June 28th 2023 officers responded to a Dollar Tree store after a report of a couple shoplifting candy hey can I talk to you guys for a second hey I got to talk to you guys for a second what were you just over at uh Dollar Tree a minute ago okay well they describ you guys perfectly and they said you stole a candy bar so I don't but if we're just going to get your guys' names and you're going to be trespassed from the Dollar Tree and that's it cuz I go to the dollar I wasn't even around there well they said you were specifically the dude they said red shorts gray sweatshirt with a girl with a dog so I didn't even go near that D okay well he can call them I don't know if they had anything about you but they said you took a candy bar so they want you trespass what they want you trespass from the store are you going to trespass me too I didn't even go near that uh it's I'll ask the other officer if you even hey y'all how's it going hey did you guys come from Dollar Tree no oh I saw a picture of it so I'm no one's no one no one's going to get arrested okay so it's not a big deal right I saw a picture of you at Dollar Tree right were you at Dollar Tree so the most that's going to happen is that you get a trespass form and then you can't go to Dollar Tree again it's not a big deal you're not going to trespass me though right no okay no I'm not does that make sense dude does that make sense yes okay do you have any warrants or anything no okay any protection orders between you two no okay perfect then you you guys got nothing to worry about deal you have your ID on you no what's your name what's the hes hesitancy huh what's the hesitancy I didn't no hesitancy what what's going on then I nothing nothing okay I said there hey I wasn't doing anything over there so other than that this just like there just a misunderstanding or whatever but I so okay were you were you at Dollar Tree and you took some candy it's a freaking candy guys no one cares about candy but they're they're all hardcore about it right and I'm not going to take someone to jail for candy right does that make sense did you go to C did you go to I'm not going to arrest you I promise you okay like look at me manto man I promise you I'm not going to arrest you so you don't have anything to worry about deal okay yeah so did you did you take the candy from your Dollar Tree that's the only thing that I'm I'm even on camera saying I promise I'm not going to arrest you for the candy right yes or no nobody he'll Che the trespass no I don't want to do that but I I just don't want to waste the time on having him send me the photo and then matching it and then wasting your guys' time too right does that make sense yes no yeah were you at Dollar Tree and did you take the candy or not I he SP can you he just trespassing me yeah what's your name he just wants hey what what's your name dude what what's your name he just nervous you don't need to be nervous if you don't have any warrant you got nothing to worri about right but I think that's probably what's going on right no no okay no you go ahead and keep your hands out of your pockets for me though all right thanks what's your first name Jason Jason thank you Jason and then what's your middle name Jason Alex Alex and last name last name Carlson R can't get it out I've been digging at it rushing at it it's like stuck right there have you gotten those uh the little floss things the little I got I got this thing oh there you go har oh what's your birthday still won't get it oh it's annoying are you guys staying in at Hobby Lobby I don't I heard there the freaking giant fire there earlier yeah that's what I heard too and a freaking propane tank blew up or something really yeah huh yeah I don't know said her whole tent burnt out and all her stuff she had one thing left in there really yeah a bra oh what started the fire huh what started the fire I don't know they didn't say they just said that the um that it burnt up and it just like it just started going out like about a half hour ago so they didn't find a record on it cuz I've never been in trouble with the law well I'm sure You' had like a driver's license or something no it's you 36 we've been doing this for a long time right and I doubt come on guys but doesn't after a while like like I know my record it doesn't go away my I I I know that they've done like like extensive background checks when I went to work somewhere and they didn't find nothing and I told my boss ahead of time you know and he said nothing came up on you hey Jason what's the do return what's the address on the do return then it never goes away ever no so I don't want to waste time and have someone come out here with a fingerprint scanner and figure out who you are but you're not 36 okay so what's your first name Jason told you name I don't know why you're making a you're just trying to turn change it into something else that like I didn't do nothing so I don't know what you're tripping on tripping like hey you told me that whatever that situation Jason go do me a favor now now I want you to sit down hey now now we're done playing I want you to sit down okay sit down right now sit down Jason sit down now Jason I I'm fast you can't run for me it's either run I'm going to tackle you or we're going to fight and I don't want to fight you I promise you it's not going to be a good day radio 3349 can I get Ane please sit down Jason sit down now Jason nope you're not going anywhere st stop Ang what the [ __ ] what are you reaching for what are you reaching for what are you reaching for what are you reaching for what stop reaching stop okay chill out he Jason you're not Jason right I need you to chill out understand me you're okay do you understand I can hang here all day and I have like six guys coming and fighting's not good it's just going to get you more in trouble right do you understand do you understand okay you're okay you're okay all right well let me go nope not yeah no it's hot as yeah we'll deal with it don't you step on me if you step on her I'm booking your for all third you understand we got more coming okay are you done you done yes or no I'm not I'm done you're done get on the ground you're not done then are you all right well you I will we're going to go that way we'll go to a div sit down right now 3 2 1 no rush no rush the off me off all right it is are you going to roll over yet or what yeah on your stach oh [ __ ] onto your stomach let's go all quit you guys got to do all this quit you guys are saling you guys need on top of him like that I just to what the dude I told you so many times could have been simple right so you're under arrest for obstructing pretty close for all three that didn't happen yet is this is she the one that's involved to yeah so we'll talk in a sec and then we'll figure out what that warrant is okay check I ain't got no more put your feet flat you guys all need lay on right when he's resisting and fighting all you all of you do what else would you do if he's resisting and fighting well I mean you know you guys can hold on to him you know all got to lay on top of him like that no we have to hold I'm just you know like I think that's pretty excessive well if you're going to keep fighting they're has to be I understand that okay I'm not trying I'm not trying to you know I'm I'm not I'm just I'm just wondering why our Sergeant will be here so if you want you I'm just I'm just I'm just trying to figure out why you know like I mean so Sergeant will be here and then he'll talk with youan use it like you know they and the person or something that's all I was concerned about you know what's your last name ma'am for what so I could put everything down information I'm I'm just I'm just asking question I'm just wondering why everybody had land that's all that's all I was wondering you know so yeah and everything's audio and video recorded too all right I'm I'm I mean I was just wondering you know this seemed kind of obessive to me but you know I mean I'm not I'm not a police officer so I don't know you know have you ever been into any kind of altercations or anything I mean I I have like a long time ago but I mean they didn't all lay on top of me or anything so if you're trying to control and make everything a little bit safer understand I'm not I'm not saying I understand you know you were trained I wasn't I was just I was just wondering I'm trying to explain it so usually if if you don't do that say if it's just me and him mhm guess what's going to happen he's probably going to start no no I understand that I understand that but if there's like that get you guys were trained to like everybody lays on top of us we have to hold each limb down that he's going to be moving around right if I have to hold each limb it's easier to control train like everybody lay on top of him like I said it's it's controlling a limb so he doesn't move no I understand that understand that I'm just trying to are you okay it was just going to be a trespass made it something else you made it something yep yeah you D yeah what are you thinking you want to bring your car up here up [Laughter] we people that's what happens when he tries to fight us yeah well tough hey guys so you guys are totally free to record just trying to park they're too long okay gu kind of dangerous with all the cars coming up mant stop moving okay we're going to stand up one two 3 up IDE in there is that him I think so that looks like him you think that's him I think so I'll go let's find out who he really is okay Jesse so I'm going to read you some rights okay you have the right to remain silent anything you say can be use against you in court of law you have the right at this time to talk to a lawyer and have him present with you are being questioned if you cannot afford to hire a lawyer when will be appointed to represent you before question if you wish you can decide anytime to exercise these rights to answer any questions or Mak any statements you understand your rights Jesse or as you say Jason no we're not stepping out we're not stepping out what did I say you want me to read it again do you want me to read it again Jesse yes or no Jesse do you want me to read it to you again so you have the right to remain silent you can decide at any time to exercise these rots and answer any questions or making statements you understand your R yeah is that a yes yeah I'm all whatever I say I yeah is that yes you understand your rights I need didn't mean guilt to anything I didn't I'm not saying you're meaning to guilt I'm just asking if you if you understand your rights or not and then we'll talk about talk about it okay yes or no 18 okay I'm going to take that as you don't want to talk to me so go put your feet in put your Fe in have attorney appointment for whatever what attorney okay put your feet in put your feet I don't want to squishing dude Jesse I'm the supervisor of the shift just know you're being recorded okay the officers advis you you're already being recorded are you injured I'm here only talk about the what happened transpired to you and the officers today that's my job are you willing to talk to me about about that un for a possible domestic on Little Rock Road no no what's that scratch right there you got a scratch on your arm I see one on your head too right you have any other injuries that I need to be aware of it's going to be a report of a male and female looks like they were arguing cut on your head too let me take a look at that real quick if you don't want to talk to me about the involvement you have with the officers and why you ran that's fine or or why they had to use Force against you you don't have to but that's my job is to to get your side of the story okay that's why I'm talking to you so I like to prefer to call people by their first name is your first name Jesse or is that a different ID belong to somebody else first 198 what what is your first name sir Jess it's Jesse okay are you injured anywhere else besides your knee and your head do you have any pre-existing injuries I need to be aware of no pre pre-existing injuries at all how are your hands are your hands cut up at all is this the only scratch you have on how's that knee look Jesse have you had any drug or alcohol today you're not in trouble if you have I'm just trying to determine what's going on with you and if you need any kind of medical attention have you had any drugs or alcohol today do you use drugs have you had any methampetamine Prett needing no are you a fitel user no occasionally have you had fit all any use of that today no what about alcohol any alcohol use yes2 okay all right hey do you mind if I just get your name you're not in trouble or anything that can you tell me can you tell me what his real name is then uh I think we in his wall we found AR arving arving his name was like arving or something we're still trying to get Rec his last name is arving or his first name uh I think that was his first name okay yeah can you who his last name is too can you like once you I'll wait right here am I free to go no no you're free to go and everything I'm just I want I want to get his his name also I mean like know who he is his name how long have you known him for not very long but I I mean I I guess you know people you know do what they do yeah is the are these both his bags no neither one of these were his bag oh they're both yeah he was Turing my one uh on your car uh we're going to go to cso okay CSO car okay man we're going to switch cars okay just go and step on out there you go come on out we're switching cars come on I'm all right no you're not we're switching cars come on let's go dude you can go over there if you want go over where go see in the other car you're going to the other car for what because we're switching cars so she can drive you you're under arrest for obstructing at this point okay come on out let's go come on let's go I do pulling me like that man get the off me I got to buckle this trying to keep you safe Jay [Applause] Jesse 37-year-old Jesse CTS was charged with resisting OB instructing and had an outof Town felony warrant