so what am I what am I being charged
with right now with forgery with
identity the but what did I take
identity the what did I take what did I
well you're you're using someone else
information but it wasn't I didn't give
anyone else's information I show picture
with someone else's no it wasn't it was
my ID that's the information I have and
I I can't like obviously I can't check
your phone right now so I need to war
for
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that how watches f
in December of 2023 Ashley borl was
going to various Bank of Albuquerque
branches trying to cash checks the
problem was that the person was a former
employee at the bank employees at the
bank immediately called the Albuquerque
Police Department officers arrived and
boral's story did not add
up hello man I haven't been doing
anything I'm officering on thisd can you
have a seat over
here so everything's being recorded okay
so we're trying to we don't know what's
going on right now but you're being
detaining okay okay we're doing an
investigation you're not free to leave
okay okay uh this officer my partner
he's going to stay here with you I'm
going to go talk to them real quick just
to figure out what's going on okay okay
but from what I gather right now they're
saying you trying to uh I guess
impersonate someone else to get money um
no I was just that's all the information
I can tell you right now okay I'll I'll
just he so just wait until I read your
rights like I said I need to go talk to
them to see what's going on and then
I'll come back and talk to you okay okay
that's fine you do IDE here yeah this
lady bro she's so we have a lady that
used to work here her name was anj okay
okay last name do you know I don't
know's last name s sing s s and she used
to work here for a while and this lady
somehow got so she owns a bunch of
businesses and uh with her husband and
um somehow this lady got a hold of her
identity and she's been coming into all
of our branches luckily we all know who
onj is right so so we haven't cashed
none of the checks there hasn't been any
so it's a lady that she's a CL here with
you guys and you guys know her okay
correct she tried to um do draw check
and on this one just now she's done it
she's probably done I bet she's tried 10
times she has two different real IDs
with uh an's name and the husband's name
so she has an ID they pictures that's
what that was the first red flag I was
like No And obviously you know can I see
that
check [ __ ]
oh
she they they think that you're trying
to impersonate someone to get was
imperson any I was just trying to cash
my check for my husband and that's what
we're just here to find out just here to
cash my check for my husband
yeah that's just what they're saying so
we're just here to do the investigation
right TR
for Charles for I'll be switching
n it's so hot in it's hot in here are
you hot in here yeah it is kind of
hot Charles four
let me see so what's your
name okay so you were trying to cash a
check under someone else's Andra yeah
it's it's all ofer account it's what
it's all of our account all all of your
account yeah she's the main account
she's the main person on there but who
is she to you huh who is she to you my
husband's sister your H husband's sister
okay so if I called her she's going to
verify that you're okay to get her money
I'm not taking her money I'm just
cashing my check so you're catching the
check Cas my Che okay but she's going to
be like yeah I I signed her check or
whatever it's not from her I didn't
write a check from her it's my personal
check from myself can I see it huh can I
see it the check want to see my check
yeah if you if I
can it's my personal check for my
husband I add the thing to it and
everything
can I'm borrow right or no yeah I'm
showing it to
you I have the receipt to it and
everything I got it my mail all my other
mail's in the
car let me see that again I couldn't see
it you want to see the other half of the
no not not right now okay so pay the
order of who's that husband your husband
is that your husband yes okay
and then who's the alter
signature it's
Walgreens my shares it's from Walgreens
it's from my
shares want to see like have of it do
you have it with
you
for my
shares and where you get that from from
my shares from your shares I get it from
my shares every year
okay my husband's a pharmacist and he
gets a shares every year cu the UN
stocking
Walgreens okay what's
from what's your husband's name huh
what's uh his name your husband's name p
r p r uhhuh p
r a b a a t a b h a t yeah what's his
last name huh his last name s i n
GH J GH
GH that's it okay what's his uh date of
birth you want his date of birth or mine
his
62 do you know you have his phone number
by any chance yeah can I see can I I'm
not seeing you you're doing anything
wrong but like they call the saying that
you were trying to casat a check under
someone else else's name so um that's
what we're trying to verify there's no
problem then you should go on your way
okay okay want his other number you have
another number two
numbers it is I already he's got this
phone
okay okay
right are you um joh hi I'm also on
thisd U so I guess there's been a
situation with people like trying to
like cash like um money under your name
and stuff like that like she has been
trying so many things she has been going
around all our bands and online trying
to get loans car loans really yeah uh do
you know this person uh her name is
Ashley what's the last name
um if you want to like just peek through
right here pleas out
that I know you don't want to he to see
you or anything like that but because we
own a lot of businesses used to own lot
of businesses right now still we own so
we have
this I don't know it's hard to say from
here have you had a someone stole like
your information anything like that not
before no but the only thing I can think
of like the first time I saw her picture
that on the temporary ID it uh CLI the n
ra we opened a credit card oh they open
a credit card mhm and every card we used
at that place uh got H first like they
tried on those part first and then they
started going to so they're saying that
I guess like they have she has like all
your information She Knows by memory
your social stuff like that um and she's
saying that I guess
uh Mr Prat it's her her husband she
that's what she said and Prat is on his
way too
oh hey
hey I asked um I asked over here the
cops came and they said they want to
verify um if you um that I was a allowed
to come in here and cash this check that
I'm not doing anything wrong so I gave
them your number and I supposed be just
calling you to um confirm it right yeah
yeah
so that I went loged to be in here
cashing his check check
wasn't
so just look for the
call thank
you
bye is it
Okay this may just be a big
misunderstanding that's just what
they're calling us to to
verify Weir that they call the cops on
me like it's like almost like I don't
even want to be banking here anymore
yeah and and understandbly like it's
kind like they don't trust you right
yeah like yeah and I can see why but
yeah I mean it just maybe I told them I
had to practice to bring my daughter to
to truly to practice and it's just
like yeah it just may be a big a
misunder understandment
here that's just what they want they
called us to figure out
right
how long have you been Bing
here 97 dang that's a long time yeah
it's there it's the main people um they
they made since I've been since
about 14
14 it's a long
time I've never had a
problem like I didn't take any money I
didn't do anything like what are they
really like what
are
e
get
it's not like I was giving you any money
I me like
and if I was I had turning over to do
so you
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just yeah that's hard
his wife wife so are you the wife huh
are you par wife not Cent not curent not
curent no when were you his wife or her
wife it was an arranged marriage started
been like 12 years you still cat a check
s under his name ins sign I didn't cash
a check or you're trying and you were uh
signing under um a Jas or I didn't sign
anything I didn't sign well they have
information so the to so right now like
I said uh I I got to read your rights
before I even talk to you about this
case I'm just asking you questions like
do you know them stuff like that yeah I
told them I know right away yeah um so
like I said not for your leave so I'm
going to ask you to get up I'm going to
put you in handcuffs and then I'm going
to take you to my car and I'm going to
keep do an investigation right now okay
okay so please get up put your hands on
your back
button the jacket
please than
go
let me just lock it real quick okay make
sure it doesn't lock on you okay do you
have any weapons no anything that can
put me stop me hurt me in anyway no okay
so I'm just going to do a pattern real
quick make sure you don't have any
weapons okay okay I don't see anything
you my headphones headphones okay then
your phone yeah um I'm just going to put
it here and I'll put it in the back like
I don't want it to get bre can okay see
anything over there no all right so like
I see
but we we'll get your phone put it in my
pocket pleas I just don't want it to
break it won't break cuz there's small
Pockets well I'll hold on to it for now
it'll be with you
at can we get
out can we get
out what if it's
a okay I just got to contact the
detectives real
quick she he's coming he's going around
oh they got to go around
yeah you say your car was outside
too your you don't have
any I'm not to any I'm
not but I don't want you to fall you
know what if you fall and then like
you're not able to this down right there
that's what that's his van right
there yeah that's his
van oh this one's yours with the lights
on I got
her walking let go on the other
side he's going to open the door on this
side go no I'm going to put it in a bag
for you a bag yeah for what just so we
don't lose it can I have my phone please
you said I'm not being arrested you're
being detained right now okay so why
can't I have my phone cuz we can't have
you talking with anyone right now okay
okay well I want to call him and ask him
what's going on okay call
who who do you want to call Robert like
this is ridiculous he's saying he
doesn't even know you what do you mean
so let me do some investigation
okay
so like I said I'm here to get uh your
side of the story as well okay but in
order for me to do that I got to read
you uh your rights first okay ask him
what does that mean the Miranda rights
what does that mean it's your rights so
like well how is that my rights I don't
understand so since you're being uh
accused about a charge uh uh you I need
to read this and then you you're going
to make the decision whether you want to
talk to me or not okay so just
listen you I'll pick that up so you have
the right to remain silent anything you
say can will be used against you in a
court of law um you have the right to
talk to the lawyer and have him or her
present with you are being questioned um
if you if you cannot afford to hire a
lawyer won't be appoint to represent you
before any questioner if you wish you
can decide on any attempt to exercise
this rights and not answer any questions
or make any statements do you understand
your rights as I have explained to you
having these rights in mind are you
willing to answer my questions
now are you will to answer my questions
Well yeah if you have questions I'll
answer them okay um so just know that
like if you were to ask for a lawyer
like that'll be like fre cost for you
okay saying right
yeah
okay so let me uh so you're willing to
talk to me right well yeah if you have
any questions
so can you do me a favor read the other
the
people from the front there's one in the
see and then the other ones on the top
so we got a call saying that like um you
were here and uh you were trying to
impersonate someone else to withdraw
money from someone else's account but I
showed him my
ID and your ID had the information of
the other
female no that's when I showed him her
ID my ID and her ID are two different
IDs her IDE had her picture on it oh I'm
just going based on what I know right
now okay so they say they show they
showed a picture of uh of mine at first
and then when they asked for her
driver's license number I pulled up her
driver's license and then I showed him
hers what did you have her uh her ID cuz
parer gave it to
me parber is the guy that you saw yeah
the guy yeah yeah and who is he who is
he to you I work for him up at the days
in at the days in yeah which one one
next to the airport the one next to the
airport
okay let me write this on
just I'll ask a minute
okay all right so yeah like I said uh we
got a call saying that like you were
trying to impersonate someone else so
that's the reason you were detained when
when we first arriv okay so uh I did
talk to the teller teller said you were
here you said you arrived to um that you
said you were here to cash to withdraw
money out of your
account you said that well out of our
account you said our account yeah you
didn't say your account no cuz I'm not
the main person on account it's not my
account it's our account so whose
account is that um
Jenna who
else a Jenna and Robert and myself he
added me I have the I power attorney
everything I you have a power of
attorney yeah I told him that earlier
when we're in still the do you have it
with you right
now
um I might I don't know if I have a scan
to copy or not um okay I got someone
bring it so let me uh house so they
you're saying it was it's your account
so your name your name is in the
account yeah well I I believe so I
showed them my ID for it he able to pull
it up by my ID did you show your ID yeah
I showed her my first ID that's that you
say you you also show uh A J's the
second like right he asked me he asked
me for hers last whenever he said that
he needed it at the end of the um to
cash the check and then he asked for
hers but originally when I went in there
I first showed him mine did that uh ID
that you showed of a janas had picture
it had your picture on no I had hers
mine had mine on it hers had hers but
okay all right so you're saying that
yours has your uh had your your driver's
license at your ID your uh photo and
then Jan's had her photo yeah now yours
yeah I can show you okay all right um do
you have a picture of it on the phone
huh do you have a you have the photo
right on the phone well yeah it's it's
the one that you gave me yeah it's one I
showed them okay so uh let me let me
continue with the questions so they say
you were here to withdraw money from
your account um and then uh well doing
that you also pulled a a check which is
the one that you uh we got I originally
came inside and I told him I needed to
cash a check and then they said okay
yeah you could do it like this and then
he says how much did you need it for and
because I was here to get the cashier
check and he goes oh we can give it to
you cash so is this the check you had
with you uh yeah that's the one he gave
me that think yeah who who gave you this
check Robert it's the one that we got
from from the post office wa Pi up our
mail together okay me and cert went to
the post office and pict up our mail
together okay so he he gave it to you
okay like I was just with him office and
so going back to the checks uh the
withdrawals that you were trying to do
on on your account right did you sign
those
withdrawals I didn't make any
withdrawals they say you were trying to
do receipts I didn't make any withdraws
they say you were here to do that I was
here to catch that
let me see
that is this so did you sign that yeah
so you signed that yeah but
that's so you sign you sign I signed
that but that was for the cashing of
that
check okay well so this is a withdrawal
for the account but I didn't make any
withdrawals well that that's what they
said they were trying you were trying to
do so you signed an Janna's uh a Janna's
uh he told me to sign her name okay but
but it's your signature right wait he
told me to sign it okay but I'm asking
you is that your
signature that's me signing a name of
hers it's not my signature okay it is it
is a signature but it's not my signature
what about this one which one the
chech like he's the one who told me to
write your name on there you also signed
that no so we have footage of you
signing it like you it was so you didn't
sign this no he asked me to sign to he
asked me to grab the check he asked me
to grab the check and sign the back I
said what do I put on it he said just
put he told me to sign the
name that's pretty same
to okay I don't see if I didn't take any
money out of this account
and like I have cashier checks that
Roberts gave me in my name from before
that he's given me like why is he doing
this I'm not sure but just for you to
know like they were both here you saw
them yeah I recognized but uh they're
they're willing to print charges against
you for what though I from
them for identity theft but I didn't
ident I didn't identify myself as anyone
else other than myself how do I take
anything from them so there's another
thing that I I need to ask you um that's
doing something like a I didn't just
listen up okay
so from what the teller said you had the
pictures of the IDS you have you have
them on your phone right
okay I hear you yeah I'm asking you do
you have him on the
phone what do you mean I have on my
phone you said you show the ID of a
janas and yours uh you said that right
then you show them to the teller on your
phone right you have a picture of them
yeah on my other phone what other phone
the one when I when I forgot my phone
out in the car I told him I said I got
to go in the car and get my
phone I came outside and it got out of
the
car do you have it on on the one right
now my iPhone yeah no all do you give me
permission to check it out just to make
sure there's no pictures of I don't have
it on that phone I'm I'm asking you like
just to like make sure there's they're
not in that phone you give me permission
to go through your phone so he's wanting
to press charges on something like I did
something wrong but then he's wanting
permission to go through my phone I'm
ask no I'm asking you for permission to
check cuz they they're saying you have
the pictures on your your phone so if I
check the phone and they're they're not
there I don't have any evidence right do
you give me permission to check your
phone to go to the gallery to check that
you don't have any any uh
pictures uh I guess any OB he could
charges on something for something I
didn't even do so obviously he can't be
trusted because he's a false police
report are you going to give me
permission or not I don't feel
comfortable like okay then that's that's
right I don't think that's fair because
he can press charges on something I
didn't do and and you guys believe him
whenever I was just with him okay so
this is what's GNA happen I just don't
it's it's your right like if you don't
want to that's fine okay but just know
that we're going to cease we're going to
cease your phone okay we got to we got
to get a warrant so we can have access
to the phone to see if there's anything
in there okay do you have any questions
for
me no like why is he buting to press
charges me he know that this isn't right
well you you admitted to caught with
[ __ ] someone else he got caught with
someone else now he wants to go tell his
wife and play play the fool well that's
something you can fix later on but right
now like I said like I
didn't I didn't to anyone else's uh he
told me to sign her name okay I did what
he told me to do is there anything you
want how you want to tell me before I
close the
door so what am I what am I being
charged with right now with forgery with
identity though but what did I take what
did I take what did I well you're you're
using someone else information but it
wasn't I didn't give anyone else the
information I show picture with someone
else's no it wasn't it was my ID that's
the information I have and I I can't
like obviously I can't check your phone
right now so I need a war for that so
I'm not going to I'm why you show my
driver's picture and see if he
recognizes it and it would show it's my
ID does it make sense to me okay you
have any
questions no I feel it was he's doing
this wrong all
right pretty much hey Ashley uh I got to
real
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quick can you tell me who's that on the
picture where' that come from I'm I'm
just asking you like who that is in the
photo is that
you
h no my driver license picture looks
like so it doesn't look like your
driver's license picture no
no okay where' you get that
from well it seems like
they had a person doing this thing all
over the place
so all right uh is there anything else
you want to tell me no so this is not
you no I don't recognize it that's not
you in the picture so if I compare this
to your driver's license picture it's
not going to be
you no no okay all right
than