I just told him, if he don't suspect me of a crime, can I be on my way? So, are you detaining me? Am I being detained right now, or am I free to go? >> do an investigative traffic stop. Am I being detained, or am I free to go? Not free to go now. Maybe the >> So, I'm being So, I'm being detained. Am I being detained? >> Not for long term, no. Am I being detained? Yes or no? It's a yes or no answer. >> you're being detained for a couple minutes until >> For what crime? I'm asking you simple questions. All you got to do is give me a simple answer. Yep, and you're kind of being argumentative with me, which I don't appreciate. How? Okay. Police stopped a man over a broken brake light, but quickly escalated the situation by pressuring him to provide identification without clearly explaining the legal basis for the demand. When the man calmly cited legal principles and repeatedly asked officers to specify the exact law requiring him to identify himself, the officers became evasive and struggled to provide a direct answer. More officers and even a supervisor were called to the scene in an attempt to apply additional pressure, but the man maintained his position, continuing to question their authority and expose weaknesses in their legal justification. In the end, unable to demonstrate any crime beyond a minor equipment issue or justify continued detention, the officers released him with only a reminder to fix the brake light. >> Can I help you? Hey, man. What's going on? Can I help you? Sure, you can help me. Yes. Can I Can I see your driver's license? Can I help you? Yeah, can I see your driver's license? Do you sus- Calm down. No, I'm just asking Can I have your driver's >> May I ask you for three forms of identification, please? Three forms of identification? I have my badge. What is your name? Officer Kohanken. Kohanken? Can I ask you a question? Sure, go right ahead. >> Okay. What crime do you suspect me of committing? I don't The reason why I stopped you, sir, Yeah. I was just trying to be courteous, and I wanted you to know that you have a brake light out on the No, I don't. No, I don't. >> right hand side. No, I do not. You have a brake light out. I'm not going to cite you for it. I'm trying to be courteous. Okay, so you told me You told me, right? So, I'm So, listen. You told me Listen. You told me that, right? Correct. Okay. So, you said Hold on. I would like you to identify Calm Calm down. Calm down, sir. Okay? Can I have your driver's license? Sir, you said you were making a courtesy courtesy check telling me my brake light was out, right? Yeah, but I I I would like to >> Okay, so you told me, right? Okay, so I'm I'm going to go get that fixed. >> Okay, good. Now, I ask you Now, I ask you what crime do you suspect me of committing? I told you that I stopped you because you have a tail light out. Okay. I'm trying to be decent, okay? You are Listen, we having a We're having a good conversation. Okay. So, what's the problem? >> I would like you to please present your driver's license Show me I have to. You have to. No, I do not. Show me. What law is that? Sir. What law is that? >> identify yourself and show me your driver's I don't have to identify myself Listen, I don't have to identify myself to you. Where Where does it say that? What law says that? Tell me. I'm asking you a question. Sir. Sir. Sir, I'm asking you I said What law? What's that? Recite me the law. Recite me the law. Sir, I would have to go look it up, okay? What you You're a police officer, right? You're supposed to know the law, right? So, recite it for me. Okay. Recite it for me. Present your driver's Recite it for me, sir. That's all I'm asking you to. Can I speak to a supervisor? Why would you Why do you need to speak to a supervisor? Cuz I want to speak to a supervisor. Is that a problem? Is that okay? Excuse me. Excuse me. Can I get your name and your badge number, please? And your name? Can you Can you spell that I mean Can you say it for me? All I'm asking you is for your driver's license. I I said why does he have to be rude? I I said why he have to be rude. Hey, he's not being rude. >> I asked him to say his name for me and he just turned his head. But I don't have to. Yes, you do. No, I do not. Recite that law for me. Listen, I'mma tell you what the Constitution of the United States said. I'mma show you what the Supreme I'mma show you what the Supreme Court said, okay? Please identify yourself. Okay. The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime. I'll be right back. Uh he's going to talk to the sergeant for you, okay? Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. I'm just letting you know Can I get your name, please? Is that okay? Officer Miller. Miller. This is Officer Miller, badge number 213. Badge number 213. He pulled me over for no reason. I I didn't pull I said he pulled me over for no reason. I thought he told you that you had a had a brake light out. Well, show me. Can you go back there and look for me? I I can take a look. All right. Go ahead. Just give me just a second here. The sergeant's coming up here. >> I'm pressing on the brake right now. Okay, but you wanted to talk to my sergeant. Oh, that's fine. That's fine. But I asked you if you could go take a look for me. That's all. >> Well, and I said I will I will for you. All right. How you doing, sir? Hey, what can I do for you? Can I get your name, please? Yeah, I'm Sergeant Mackanaugh from Fair Oaks Police Department. What can I do for you, sir? Okay. Now, I'm trying to explain to this gentleman He said he was >> You roll the window down so I can No. It's enough right here, sir. >> Okay. Okay? Now, he said he pulled me over because I had a tail light out? a right brake light out. That's what he said. Mhm. Okay? He said it's a courtesy to tell me. Mhm. Okay, so he told me I'm trying to be on my way. Mhm. I'm trying to go home. I just got off work. Okay. I'm trying to go home. Mhm. Okay? Now, he just pulled me over. He followed me all the way from where my job was at and then pulled me over right here. Genio. Genio, okay. Yeah. And then pulled me over right here. So, I'm trying to explain to him okay? about what the Constitution and what the Supreme Court says about him pulling me over, okay? Without suspecting me of committing a crime. Do you believe that the Supreme Court is the law of the land, yes or no? I'm not going to answer those questions sitting here and argue with you. >> I believe in the Supreme Court or the Constitution or not. >> Do you believe in the Constitution? >> I'm not going to tell Did you take a oath? Did you take oath of office, yes or no? We're not going to sit here >> Did you take a oath of office, yes or no? Okay then, so you believe in the Constitution, yes or no? Okay then, so I'm going to read to you what the Supreme Court say about the Constitution that you took a oath. What's your argument? Okay, I just told him if he don't suspect me of a crime, can I be on my way? So, are you detaining me? It's Am I being detained right now or am I free to go? >> do an investigative traffic stop. Am I being detained or am I free to go? Not free to go now, maybe to So I'm being So I'm being detained. Am I being detained? Not for long term, no. Am I being detained? Yes or no? It's a yes or no answer. >> you're being detained for a couple minutes until For what crime? I'm asking you simple questions. All you got to do is give me a simple answer. Yep, and you're kind of being argumentative with me, which I don't appreciate. How? Okay. Keep this officer pulled you over for an equipment violation, which is the tail light out or the brake light out. I Listen. Okay. You mess Y'all missing the point. You need to have working tail lights, working equipment on your vehicle. Okay, he stopped me and told me I just told him I'll go get it fixed right now. >> asked you for a driver's license. >> Okay, I don't I I don't have to show him anything. I don't have to show you that. >> Okay. I don't have to identify myself to y'all. Okay. But you have to identify yourself to me, right or wrong? I'm not going to sit and argue with you. Okay, have a good day. >> How we We're not arguing. >> Have a good day, sir.