The only reason why I would have to give you my ID is if I was under suspicion for have committed a crime. Do you have reasons to believe I have committed a crime? >> Yes, after the discussion that we just had. >> What reason do you have to believe that I'm committing a crime? >> The officer thought he could demand ID without legal cause. But the man calmly cited the law, denied the vague accusations, revealed the baseless escalation, and forced the officer to back down in embarrassment. Let me see your license. And the reason you need to see my license is >> is because it's requested and it's required by law. Do you have probable, suspicion, or reason to believe that I committed a crime for you to ask me for my ID? Cuz that is the law in the state of Virginia. If you don't know that, I know this is that if an officer asks for your driver's license or ID, you provide it. >> If they operate a motor vehicle, you haven't seen me operate any motor vehicle. >> That's not That's not in the law at all. >> The law in Virginia stipulates that in order for you to ask me for my ID. >> No, you can walk down the street and I can require that you >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, I'm well versed in law. I've been involved in situation more. The only reason why I would have to give you my ID is if I was under suspicion for have committed a crime. Do you have reason to believe I have committed a crime? >> Yes. After the discussion that we just had. >> What reason do you have to believe that I've committed a crime? >> You have the keys to that car. You led me to believe that you were operating that car. You said you were borrowing it. >> I led you to believe that I When did I lead you to believe that I was operating that vehicle? >> When we were talking over there by the car and you said that you were borrowing it. It wasn't your car. >> So where does that lead you to believe I was operating that vehicle? >> Why would you borrow a car if you weren't operating it? >> I have never Did you see me in that car? Did you see Did you see me operate that car? >> Because you had the keys to the car in your pocket. >> Okay. I have a tool in my hand, too. That doesn't belong to me either. Okay. Does >> that have to do with anything? >> The exact same thing that you're on right now because I have the key. You believe I operated the vehicle? >> I have this drill. That doesn't hurt. >> I need the vehicle and you have to keep your vehicle. Yes. >> You asked me, "Was that my vehicle?" I said, "No, that was not my vehicle." Okay. What you're doing right now is harassment. >> No, I'm trying to get your identification because I removed an inspection sticker that's unlawful that you were in possession of by having the keys to the vehicle. So, I broke the law because I had the keys to the vehicle. Is that what you just said on camera? I broke the law because I had the keys to a vehicle. Now, whether I'm operating or not, I broke the law having the keys to a vehicle. That's what you just said on camera. >> You're in possession and command and control of that vehicle by having the keys with you. Yes. >> We see the way that that wall is if you was Dominion in control, I believe it is. The way it's written up. Yes. I wasn't in control of the vehicle. So, if you would like to not harass me for the rest of the day, I would like to continue and get back to work like I told you 10 minutes ago. >> I'd like you to provide your ID because I've asked for it. I haven't committed a crime and you know this. I am not going to provide you with my ID. >> Do you really want to go before the magistrate for this? >> I do not. I really don't. I >> I mean I'd like to let you get back to work, but >> So why are you harassing me right now? You know that I'm working right there? >> Because I've asked you several times for your identification and you're failing to provide it. >> There is no need or law or reason why I should have to provide my ID. >> There's no need that you feel. >> Do you feel like I committed a crime? >> It's very possible. >> Do you feel like I've committed a crime? >> Suspicion to believe that. Yes. >> Do you feel like I've committed a crime? >> Yes. >> What crime do you feel like I committed? Being in possession of that unauthorized section. >> Can you show me anywhere in Virginia law where being in possession of keys of keys to a vehicle is reason enough for me to have to buy my ID when you never saw me operate this vehicle. >> You're going to end up being detained if you don't just show me back to work. >> Why are you detaining me? >> For further investigation >> for having keys. You're going to detain me for further investigation for having keys or vehicle. That what you just said? >> That's what you're going to end up with. Yes. >> So you're going to make it So you're going to make it fit, right? Is that what you're saying? You're going to make it fit. >> That's not what I'm saying at all. >> That's what it seems like you're And it seems like saying you're making a fit. >> It seems like you're being argumentative and uncooperative. >> This is not what you would call a consensual conversational encounter. I don't want to participate in this. I would like to get back to work. >> It wasn't consensual the minute I found that sticker on the car that you had the keys. >> Okay. >> But >> but you did what you had to do and you got back in your car. You was about to leave. >> Am I right? You were sitting in your car about to leave. >> I said sitting in my car. >> You were sitting in your car. You were about to leave. >> My opinion. You had your seatelt on. You had your seat belt on. You closed your computer. So, you just want to be this petty. Is that what it is? You just >> It has nothing to do with being petty. It has something to do with my job, which is investigating crimes broken in Virginia. >> Okay. So, did you see me break a crime? And did you see me commit a crime in Virginia? >> Being in possession of that sticker is >> I wasn't in possession of the sticker. The sticker was on the vehicle that you clearly saw was not registered to me. >> But you told me that you borrowed it and you had the key in your pocket. >> So, you further understand that that is not >> an indication that you were the operator of the vehicle. So you further understand that that is not my vehicle cuz it is registered to a female which you clearly saw. >> Yes. >> So I would have no knowledge of what's wrong with the vehicle. >> But you were operating. >> No, you said I was operating the vehicle. I still have never not once today said to you that I was operating that vehicle. You said that I was in possession of the keys. That right there was reason enough. This is a live feed though. This is for my protection. This is a live feed. >> I understand. That's fine. I have no problem with it. I'm not doing anything wrong. But >> you're harassing me is not wrong. What I'm telling you is that I can go back into Walmart and pull the video camera footage and most likely show that you were operating that vehicle when you pulled in the parking lot. >> Okay. >> So, I mean, do you really want it to go to that? >> What I'm saying is if you don't have any reason right now while you're stopping me with the exception of you're curious as to who I am, which that's not legal. That's no reason in Virginia for you to uh no reason in Virginia at all for you to stop me or want to ask me for my identification. You know, in Virginia, I don't know if you know this, but even if I was just walking in here with a firearm, that's not reason enough for you to stop me and talk to me or ask me for my ID. But here I am walking to work, >> depending on the circumstances. >> It's not. It's not. >> Okay. Well, I'm glad you're a lawyer. Where' you at? >> Definitely not a lawyer. >> Okay. Well, you apparently think you are. >> I've been involved in enough situations to know. >> And the reason you've probably been involved in those is because of your demeanor. >> My demeanor is I want to get back to work. >> Okay. >> That's my demeanor. I have >> I got a picture of you, so I've got what I need. Fair enough. Take up your receipt. >> That's not my receipt. My receipt's right here.