Why can't you step out of the vehicle? >> Because do I need to step out of the vehicle? >> There's court law that says that there's nothing wrong with me asking you to step out of the vehicle. The court has said that's fine. >> What What is What code is there What is that? Uh >> I don't have to give that to you. You can look it up later on your own time. You're on my time. >> it? Do you know it? >> I know it. That's why I'm asking. >> you, sir. And him. >> Police stopped a man over alleged vehicle violations involving a cracked windshield and proof of insurance, but quickly escalated the encounter by pressuring him to exit his vehicle without, in his view, providing a clear legal basis. Remaining calm throughout the stop, the man asserted his rights, refused consent to any search, and repeatedly asked the officer to explain the legal authority behind his demands. As officers attempted to expand the scope of the investigation, he challenged the legality of their actions, pointed out inconsistencies in the officers' explanations, and insisted on accountability. In the end, unable to demonstrate any serious criminal wrongdoing or justify the escalation of the stop, the officers ultimately issued citations for the alleged administrative violations and allowed the man to leave. >> I asked you to step out of the vehicle. >> For what? >> [clears throat] >> Cuz I want to talk to you. Step out of the vehicle. >> You can talk to me from right here, sir. >> of the vehicle. >> I don't need to step out of the vehicle. Call your sergeant. I've done nothing wrong. >> You have his license and everything else. We have reason to believe you're doing something >> have my license. Here. >> a reason you don't want to step out of the vehicle? >> Because I don't need to step out of the vehicle, sir. You guys need to do your job and know that I know what your job is as well as mine. >> know what my job is. >> Okay. I do I do not I do have not have any reason to be pulled out of my vehicle. >> Court says that whenever a traffic stop is made, if an officer asks you to step out of the vehicle, step out of the vehicle. >> What have I done What are you my being cited with? >> It doesn't matter. At this point, you're being detained. I asked you to step out of the vehicle. >> For what? >> going to search your vehicle. I just want to talk to you away from the vehicle. >> talk to me from right here. >> Why can't you step out of the vehicle? >> Because Do I need to step out of the vehicle? >> There's court law that says that there's nothing wrong with me asking you to step out of the vehicle. The court has said that's fine. >> What What is What code is there What is that? Uh >> I don't have going that to you. You can look it up later on your own time. You're on [clears throat] my time. >> know it? Do you know it? >> I know who that is. >> you, sir. And him. You needed me to get out of my vehicle so you can talk to me when you're talking to me right here making that makes no sense to me. >> you to sit at the back of the vehicle so you can speak with me. >> I can speak with you right here. >> You also told me that you have a knife on your person. >> Do you want it? >> No, I don't want your knife. I don't want you to remove it because I don't want to put a weapon in your hand. >> I don't either. >> Even though you have one on you right now. >> No, I don't. >> After telling me you have one. >> That doesn't mean that it's still on me. >> [clears throat] >> Can you please call your sergeant? >> I'm not calling a sergeant. I don't need a sergeant here. Okay, so who is the person that >> I don't know. >> So, you're telling me that a person was inside your vehicle, you didn't know who they were? >> Yes, sir. >> You don't think that's kind of odd? I don't let random people ride in in my personal car. >> Am I Am do is my stuff clear? I >> It really doesn't matter because the thing is is that it is suspicious whenever we pull behind a car >> been drinking, sir? Why do you have to keep clearing your throat? >> Seriously, that's where we're going with this? I have not been drinking. >> Okay. I'm questions I'm allowed to ask you to rustle you up. You want to try to rustle me up by asking me questions? We can both do that. >> this isn't the first time I've dealt with you. You're not bothering me. This is pretty common for you. So, >> Why don't you look at me, sir? I don't have a passenger. >> I have dealt with you several times. You had a passenger that ran out of the vehicle and you're telling me you have no idea who that person >> looking over there talking to me. >> it matter where I look? >> Because you respect a man, you'd look at him in their eyes. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, what does that mean? >> I don't understand who you're talking to if you're looking at somebody else. >> just said you're the only person in the vehicle. So, what does that mean? Who's in the vehicle? >> No, sir. Did you see anybody else in the vehicle? >> who was in the vehicle with you? >> I don't know. Why do you keep asking me the same questions over and over? Please ask different questions. >> you refuse to answer the question. >> I answered the question. >> You're telling me you have no idea who that person was? >> I answered the question. >> You have no idea who that person was? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Jesse, like always, it's always been a pleasure speaking with you. >> Thank you. >> Hey Jesse, you're getting a citation for a no insurance. What's your current address? >> Um it's should be on file. It's Caffeine Avenue, lot number 97. >> Thank you, sir. Do you have a gun or anything in that in the glove box? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Do you think you have some insurance in that glove box? >> Very possible, okay. >> I I have a center console and a glove box. Like I said, it's my mother's vehicle. >> Okay. >> So, I can check there. >> Sure, go ahead. >> Progressive here at Wyoming Financial Insurance. >> wrote you a citation cuz there's no proof of insurance on you. >> and Go ahead and write the citation, sir, and I'll just I'll just deal with it in court. >> Okay, don't worry about looking for it. We'll deal with it that way and waste our money, huh? >> Okay, Jesse. So, so please understand that if you do in fact have insurance, if you contact the insurance company and ask them to send you a piece of paper, they will if you in fact have insurance right now, they'll send they'll send you a document >> Okay, they'll send you a document saying that at this time of day during the traffic stop, you in fact had had insurance through whatever company. When you have that >> I do have it. I understand how this works, sir, all the way. >> Okay, well then I'll stop explaining to you. >> Thank you. What's your dog's name? You don't know your dog's name? >> It's not my dog. >> Oh, this is the lady she's running her dog on my Can you keep your dog's nails off my vehicle, please? She's done this once before at the courthouse on camera. >> Jesse, you said before that you didn't know the name of the passenger that was with you. You know where did you pick him up at? >> Sir, I'm not answering any more questions. What is your officer's name? >> Corporal Rogers. >> Corporal Rogers. >> Corporal Rogers. >> Okay. >> It's different than what I was told it was and you guys don't have a sergeant on duty? >> No. >> Okay, thank you. So, you can circle the car 10 times, the dog's not going to hit on anything because we don't have anything. You'd think a good dog would only have to circle it one time. Maybe you should calibrate your dog. Huh? When will my citation be ready? Okay, how long does it take to write a citation? Because it doesn't normally take 10 minutes to write one citation. He has my ID. That's all he needs to write the citation. So, here I'll explain this to you. I have a little packet for you, too. Thank you. >> This is a citation for your failure to maintain liability insurance. Court date Court date out for the 4th of May, 8:30 in the morning I understand no insurance tickets are this one's for your broken windshield. Okay, 110. Appreciate it. The no insurance is a must appear so make sure you're there. Appreciate it. Now I'm free to go. You gave me my ID and all that we're good to go.