Why won't you tell who you are? Are you a murderer? >> don't want y'all violating my rights. This is not a stop and ID state. >> are we uh how are we violating your rights? Cuz this isn't a stop and ID state and you have to have reasonable articulable suspicion I've committed a crime, about to commit a crime, or have committed a crime. >> We don't know who you are. Responding to a vague burglary call, officers approach a man on private property and immediately demand identification without confirming any crime or verifying the facts. When he calmly refuses, questions their legal authority, and asks for a supervisor, the pressure only intensifies with officers even running his vehicle information. But as he stands firm and demands evidence, the situation begins to fall apart. Watch how the lack of proof turns the encounter into an uncomfortable moment for the officers. So, listen. Where's the firearm? What are you talking about? You got a holster under the steering column. That's a holster. There's no firearm. Okay, do you have a firearm? I'm not answering that question, dude. Listen. Property 4 965 available. Have I committed a crime? No. To my knowledge, yeah. Okay, so I don't have to ID. You do. No, I do not. Are you calling a supervisor? >> Somebody refusing to identify themselves. But I haven't committed a crime. We're the whole investigation is the call. It doesn't mean a crime. I still have to identify who we're speaking with. That is all it is. >> I totally understand that, but I'm on private property that my boss owns that I have not committed a crime on. My boss owns the property, bro. I'm asking you, do you own the property? I do not own the property. My boss owns the property. I have not committed a crime. I'll give you my I would be glad I would be glad to give you my ID, dude, if you had a reason to ID me. I do. What's your What's your reason? >> here for the call. For a The only reason This is not a stop and ID state. Tennessee is not a stop and ID state. I do not give up my ID without committing a crime, man. Sure, on a traffic stop. Do you know the Do you know the the [ __ ] Fourth Amendment, the First Amendment? >> Yes. What are they? You're talking about the Fourth Amendment? >> Yeah. Unlawful search and seizure? Yes. This is not a stop and ID state. You're required to >> You're about to get You're about to get in some trouble, dude. Give me your ID. Why? Because I need to identify who you are, who you're saying you are, because I'm here investigating a theft or a burglary, however you would like to word that. So, you suspect me of committing a crime? >> Yes. I suspect you're breaking into the house. So, I am here to ID you. Okay. Confirm all parties involved. >> Okay. Okay? And then, once I debunk the whole "Hey, you all are here lawfully. I've ID'd you." Mhm. So, this guy, you, and you are who you say you are, you're all here legally, and then I give you your IDs back and I leave. >> Okay. I mean, that's that's I would I would be totally glad doing that if we're all on the same page that you are within your >> And that's the only reason I'm compelling IDs because I'm here to investigate a burglary. Somebody just saying >> I've just been informed by legal counsel, dude, cuz I have been I've had bad run-ins with the law before. >> And I'm not here to do that. I'm here because somebody called in on someone breaking into a house. We just want to make sure who we are. >> Okay. Yeah, I know. I totally understand that. I just don't want them violating my rights, that's all. And I'm not here to do that. Okay. I'm here to ID everybody involved because I'm here investigating a burglary. I understand that, and it looks like, you know, something might have happened, but I'm trying to explain to you that that That's why I'm on private property. We own this home. We're on private property. Right. I work for him, so I'm under his you know, he owns the home. Yes. That is all we're doing. It's just trying to identify who we're speaking with. It was simple as that. >> I understand that. I know it's simple, but I just I just want to make sure that you guys aren't violating my rights right now. >> Nobody's here to violate your rights. I know this just Tennessee is not That's not how it operates here. But our the reason for us being here is to investigate somebody entering a house. Mhm. Okay? Yeah. That's what the whole issue is. And I have >> can identify who we're speaking with, the smoother this will go. Well, the easiest thing to do would be to call my boss. He would give you the paperwork on this home. >> your boss. We're dealing with you guys. I know, but we're on his property though. We're on his property though. >> fine, but you got Yeah, you guys are here, so we're dealing with you. I know, but we're on his private property though. Okay, and the So, shouldn't you deal with him? We're here You are here. This You are who we're dealing with. Okay, listen. I'm I'm going to give you my ID, but I'm going to file a complaint cuz I don't think this is and I want all Do you guys have cards? Do you guys have business cards? No. 1449, there's my badge number. Okay. Officer McCade. And you? Adrian, 1448. Okay. What's the address? I don't know. I'm on private property. My boss owns the home, and they're trying to ID me. I'm just making sure that they're with They're within their right to do so, and you know. >> Well, they are within their right because they got a call over here. Right. So, otherwise, we wouldn't be here. >> Under you know, he owns the home. He's He's flipping the home. The field verified that, we'll code. Yeah, that's what I thought. Why won't you tell who you are? Are you a murderer? >> No, I just don't want y'all violating my rights. This is not a stop and ID state. >> uh how are we violating your rights? Cuz this isn't a stop and ID state and you have to have reasonable articulable suspicion I've committed a crime, about to commit a crime, or have committed a crime. Well, we don't have suspicion. We don't know who you are. And you're saying this is your boss's house. We don't know who your boss is. We can't prove ownership. >> Well, he could probably give you the then I'm you know, the paperwork on the home. Well, where's he at? In Knoxville. Yeah. So, we don't know if you're supposed to be here or not. We can call him and say, "This dude here says he's supposed to be here." Right. I know. I understand what you're saying. And I just I just want to make sure everyone's on the same page, dude, cuz >> truck? Is that your work? Yeah, that's my truck. Is it registered to you? Well, are you going to run my tag? >> Is it registered to you? I'm not going to answer I don't answer questions. >> That's illegal. No, it's not. >> I haven't committed a crime, man. That's not illegal. It is, dude. I'm going to file a I'm going to file a complaint. >> complaint. >> I'm I don't want it to go that way, man. I just want everybody You're selling yourself out, brother. Okay. And if you'll give us a number of your boss, we'll call him and see if he's >> from the get-go, man. Well, how we don't know who to ask him who's supposed to be here. I haven't I haven't committed a violation, traffic violation. You're not You're running my tag illegally right now. No. Yeah, you are. I'm not even playing in this part. Dude, I just don't want you guys getting in trouble. I'm looking out for y'all, really. You're looking out for me? Yeah. >> Just tell us who you are and I'll leave. But we know who you are now. >> It's not That's not how it works, man. Okay, so if someone's breaking into your home >> No, wait a minute. Stop right there. What do you do for a living? I'm a carpenter. Uh I don't tell you how to nail boards, don't you tell me how to do my job. >> I'm not telling you how to do my job, sir. I'm not. It's Mandy. I'm I'm not Will you show us who you are so we can check make sure you're supposed to be here instead of me arguing with you? I told you what we need to do. I don't want to argue. Well, I'm not going to argue. I don't want to argue.