I think the use of force against people that are what? The use of force putting them in cages, extorting them for fines. Like if you once you give somebody a fine, how do you how are you going to make them pay that fine? I don't make them do anything. All we're doing is trying to slow people down. The speed limit is posted. That's the law. >> y'all are doing it the wrong way. Y'all are doing it through force and revenue. By force? >> Yes, you you coerce people to get this fine and then they either can pay the fine or they have to go to jail, right? A peaceful protest on public property quickly escalates when officers confront a man holding a sign and speaking out against what he believes is a profit-driven speed trap. Instead of clearly explaining the law, they issue vague commands, threaten arrest, and refuse to identify where he's actually allowed to stand. But when he calmly questions their authority and stands firm on his rights, the situation begins to shift. As their justification falls apart, the encounter takes an unexpected turn, ending with an uneasy retreat that raises serious questions about authority and accountability. >> Sir, am I being detained? Am I being detained, sir? Am I being detained, sir? Am I free to go, sir? You're not free to stand out there by the road. That's not public, sir? It is public, but it's a dangerous It's a state highway. Okay, where am I allowed to stand, sir? >> stand over Well, you can't stand over here on private property. That is city easement where you're standing. >> Okay, show me where I'm allowed to stand, sir. >> I'm not going to show you anything. >> Okay, what's Where's the line I can stand at? >> I'm not going to show you, but if you stand someplace that you're not supposed to stand where it is illegal for you to stand, you'll be arrested. I need a warning or something. >> You're Hey, consider this your warning. >> Okay, well, where can I go here? Can I Can I go down here into this grass or can I go over here? >> Can I go on the sidewalk over here? Is that public sidewalk? >> Well, as long as you stay off of anybody's property, I don't see a sidewalk over there, young man. There's a public sidewalk. There has to be a sidewalk for people to ride bikes and stuff. >> to be a sidewalk. >> Well, I mean, most time there is. >> But there isn't. There's got to be public area around here for me to stand. There's got to be a public area around the university for me to stand and hold my sign. >> And I would suggest you go over by the university and stand on it. But that's not the university. I'm talking about the university drive. Okay, you said the university. I university is what I meant. >> Okay. Let me just ask you a question. What are you doing? I'm trying to stop the revenue service that y'all are creating. >> Okay, do you not think that speed You do understand that speed kills in car crashes. You do understand that, right? I think I I The use of force against people that are what? The use of force putting them in cages, extorting them for fines. Like if you once you give somebody a fine, how do you how are you going to make them pay that fine? I don't make them do anything. All we're doing is trying to slow people down. The speed limit is posted. That's the law. >> y'all are doing it the wrong way. Y'all are doing it through force and revenue. By force? >> Yes, you you coerce people to get this fine and then they either can pay the fine or they have to go to jail, right? You I'm not going to stand out here and debate the law with you. >> trying to. You're doing nothing but interfering with the official capacity of a police officer. That's all you're doing. >> Interfering how? You came over and messed with me. >> Yeah, but you All you're doing is standing down here with the sign. You're number one, you're dangerous standing up there on a state highway. >> I I can [laughter] protect myself. I'm not in the highway. I'm in the grass over here. >> right back close to the state highway. >> In the grass, sir? Really? This is what This is all you got to do? I I mean, this is all y'all have to do? We pay y'all to give us tickets? You pay me to do a job. This is part of the job. >> and serve. I'm not >> part of my job. Hey, do you run the police department? No. Do you Do you run anything with the city? >> Sir, am I free to go? >> Yes sir. Yeah, you're always free to go. But you're not free to stand up there. And you're not free to stand on anybody's property. >> Your answers are just typical of a typical cop and I'm just trying to make a change here. Unlike unlike y'all, I'm just trying to make a difference. You know what I'm saying? Okay. You know all we're going to do is just move somewhere else. Well, that's fine. That's what I want y'all to do. As long as y'all ain't sitting around with four cars over here wasting my tax dollars, giving my my Where do you live? giving peaceful citizens tickets and stuff. >> Where do you live? I live around here. You pay taxes? >> Yes, of course. Everybody pays taxes. >> Well, most people pay taxes. I'm just saying, if if y'all got five cars over here and y'all ain't got nothing better to do, I'm going to see if I can make y'all move around. What if change it then? Get it changed. >> That's what I'm doing. I'm But no, this isn't how you change it cuz we can go work anywhere. All the >> All the police department or talk to the police chief. If you don't think this is the right way Call city hall. Call the city manager. Do something other than this. >> I do these things, too. I mean, you're pretending like I don't. >> Well, I'm not pretending that >> I go I go to city council meetings. How's it going, officer? something other than this. If you want to If you want >> What are I mean, you're telling me to go do something productive. What are y'all doing? We are trying to slow people down. That's all we're doing. I mean, you're trying to slow people down. >> we're writing people for 60 miles an hour through here? You think that's acceptable? Where's the victim? Have a good day, officer.