[music] You are speeding in a school zone doing over 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. >> Ma'am, I need you to give me your driver's license. I'm going to ask you one last time. Otherwise, I'm going to remove you from this vehicle and you're going to go to jail. >> Karen thought a few arguments could turn the traffic stop into a minor issue until what awaited her was no longer just a ticket. [screaming] >> Oh my gosh. What are you doing? >> The Cadillac is stolen of Normal, Illinois. The owner reported it stolen. >> You three came came in, got out and walked into Hooters from that car. So that's why you're detained and there may be charges. >> She entered the traffic stop with the confidence of someone who thought she knew the rules. But minutes later, the price began becoming heavier than the handcuffs themselves. The moment she saw the police, she immediately tried to leave the restaurant, then turned a few simple questions into a baffling confrontation. >> [ __ ] bro. >> Okay, >> they already watched the video. >> What you mean they already watched the video? >> Watch video went from the car. >> That's why That's why we're here. Go have a seat. >> They don't have [ __ ] to do with me. >> Have a seat. >> Now you're under arrest. >> What am I having a seat for, though? Y'all >> Cuz you're under arrest. Either have a seat or I'm going to put you in the car. >> Hey, sit down. Why? Why is you being so mean? Like, what the >> Cuz you're not listening to directions. >> I'm just telling you I didn't do anything. >> Okay, >> that's all I'm saying. >> Cuz you made matters worse by tensing up on me. >> I didn't tense up on you. I just asked you what was going on. I didn't know what was going on. >> Have a seat in there, please. >> And then you go through my stuff. You didn't even ask me to go through my stuff. >> We're looking for an ID. >> You cannot go through no female stuff. >> We're looking for an ID. Please. >> You cannot go through no female. No person. >> Have a seat. >> Normal. H. >> Have a seat. What they have to do with anything? >> Slide your feet in the car. >> That's a long ways from here. So that's ironic. Hey, you're under arrest. Go ahead and slide your feet in. Okay. >> Wait, can I get my stuff, y'all? Just hold on. >> We have it. >> Okay. I want to hold my own stuff. >> No, you're not allowed to hold it. >> What you mean I'm not allowed to hold my stuff? >> Going to stay with you, but have a seat. Bring your feet in. We're going to close the door. Okay. You're under arrest. >> What am I under arrest for? >> For interference with official acts. >> And it may be in more with the with >> You said what? >> Interference with official acts. That means you were not listening to a lawful order that I was giving to you. >> What you mean and I don't know you I you didn't read my rights and nothing. You just came and stop all of us. Put us on the ground or slide your feet in and we'll we'll let you know what's going on from here. Okay. >> What you mean what's going on? G >> Hey, can I talk to somebody else? You being so mean to me. Everybody telling me nothing. Can I please I rather tell you straight up. >> Okay. Can I talk to you? I'll come on and talk to him. >> No. Sit down. Sit down. We're going to close the door. I'll talk to you through the door or the window. >> Through the door or the window? I know. I want to talk to No, I want to talk to off. I want to know what the [ __ ] is going on exactly. >> He's going to talk to you. Just sit down. >> Sit down. Close the door. I'll talk to you. >> I know. No [ __ ] or nothing. >> You have to sit all the way in. >> And I'm sorry for making you feel like I'm just I want to understand what the going on. We got to close the door last time. >> Thank you. Awesome. >> When she began explaining, her story sounded fairly reasonable, but the more she talked, the more the details caught the officer's attention. >> You can't just say what's going on right now. I'm not going to do that cuz it was already tough to get you inside the >> Where did the video show on? >> Oh, we didn't see it yet. >> They just said, "Hey, they're going out the back." >> Uh, they started walking out the back and it seemed a little off cuz as soon as I went in there, I noticed them that they were sitting in the corner of the of the >> Cadillac is stolen out of Normal, Illinois. >> Okay. >> What you mean it's stolen? >> It's reported stolen. >> How was it stolen? >> The owner reported it stolen. >> When did the owner report the car stolen? um that I I don't know, but they reported stolen and then their tracker, the company called us, said, "Hey, this car that's reported stolen is tracking the Twitter's lap." So then we come up here, we find the parking lot, then we go inside, and say, "Hey, can you pull up cameras to see who we might have gotten out of this three came in, got out, and walked into Hooters from that car." So that's why you're detained. And there may be charge to do something like, "Hey, you got to come over here." >> Well, I like the second going. That's why I was asking y'all what was going on >> because we're just asking you something simple and you're like, "No, I'm not. I'm not I'm not part of this." Well, you are. The video shows you you and >> I didn't know what y'all was talking about. I thought you was talking about something about the Hooters. I'm like, "What are y'all talking about?" >> You were inside Hooters eating. >> That's what I thought y'all was talking about. >> Um, I ain't know anybody. >> I'm asking questions about the car until I read your Miranda. You were correct in that. The only thing I am going to ask is just to confirm your information, which we can do prior to Miranda. Um, just cuz I'm identifying. So, I got your ID. Um, is your address still in Illinois? >> You got my double heart. >> Are you Marcus Fleming? That's It says Superstar Cashmir. That's my hus my ex-husband. >> That's his debit card. >> That's my debit card. It say superstar cashmir. >> My husband car. Like what the >> Venisha? What's your um address? >> Can you put my stuff my debit card in my purse? >> Yeah, we got earlier. >> So he tell me like what's going on? He's talking to me for real for real. Like real like on some real real [ __ ] between me. You know, you know your friends and like you know what I'm saying? You like the real one about everybody. >> The cars are stolen. Everybody, you you three got out of a stolen car. >> So, what's going on right now? >> So, they're calling the police department normal where they filed them the stolen vehicle report. They're going to let me know who we have and then the owners will say, "Yes, I want to pursue charges or no, no, I do not." But we're waiting to hear back from them. >> All right. Can I Okay. Well, >> real quick before we get anything, I got your name, birthday, what's an address for you? >> You got You got my You just have my ID. >> So, the ID is correct. Sometimes people have their IDs are expired. So, that's what I asked. Um, can I I'm trying to I don't know if I'm trying to talk to you so we can stop all this and don't nobody got to go to jail, nothing. >> Okay, so you're right. >> From apologizing and denying resistance to mentioning her pregnancy. She tried almost everything to calm the situation, but the door still was not opening. >> Used against you in the court of law. You understand each of the rights I've explained to you? >> Yes. >> You have? Okay. And having these rights of mind, you would you like to talk to me? >> Okay. Um, the car is my uh mother's car. She gave me the car, but I don't That's what I'm saying. I don't know how I report the stolen. Like, she ain't called my phone and said nothing. Everything was fine. That's what I'm saying. I don't That's why I was confused on what was going on. Obviously, if I knew this was going on, you think I'll be like, you feel what I'm saying? I don't. >> So, it's your mom's car. Maybe misunderstanding. When did you when did you >> If I call her right now, she going to say she don't want to report the car stolen. She going to she going to drop the charges. Especially when you say her you were in Iowa and she don't she not going to want to come get her car from now. >> When did you pick up her car or when did you leave with her? >> She gave me She gave me the car. Um, she gave me the car uh >> yesterday. She gave me the car yesterday to go to Best Buy. I got the receipt from Best Buy. I still normal. I got >> Yeah, she gave me She gave me permission to give her a car and told me I can go to Best Buy. >> So, you had it since yesterday? >> Yeah, she gave it to me yesterday. >> And then like you did you take it to your home that night? Last night or >> I went I went to a friend's house and I spent the night. >> Okay. And then what brought you to Davenport? >> I came to get some Hooters cuz she didn't call my phone. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how she called and did that. But she didn't call me at all. That's what I was trying to say. My mom have a bipolar disorder. >> Okay. >> And she be drinking when I left her. When I left her, she was drunk when I left her. >> Who were the other two guys with you? >> Those just my friends. >> Okay. >> They don't have nothing to do with nothing. >> Why do they have the keys though? Were they one of them driving or >> Cuz I don't have they was I mean all of us was we we all had we all in the car like >> so. The boy the tall boy. He was driving. But >> okay. >> If that's the case then why would why did you guys take off out the back? We didn't know what was going on. They said something about the police and hooters and I'm like, what the [ __ ] is going on? We don't have no we we just I don't have no time for no racing [ __ ] We thought it was something with some hooters with Hooters. >> That doesn't make sense. If if you truly were like, I borrow mom's car and you you had no clue why we were even here. Why would you why would an average person get up from their table mid dinner and say, "Let's go." And let's go. >> Of course you're going to ask me that, but I'm black and that's just how that's just how I'm just I just seen a whole bunch of white people and I'm just like, "What the [ __ ] is going on? >> That makes no sense. >> That's how I You're eating dinner. You saw cops. after us. Let's go out the back door quick. >> I was walk I was walking up to call my mom. That's what I was doing when you seen the phone in my hand. >> So why not just do it from the table and just say >> cuz we didn't know exactly what was going on until we came outside and they was just like >> Why would you call your mom? >> Well, why wouldn't I call my mom? >> But why would you call? You didn't even know why we were here. We could >> This not this not the first time this she did this before. That's I told you my mom have a bipolar disorder. This not the first time she did this. The last time she did this, you can call you can call Stoki yourself. And when the officers received the final confirmation, her confidence began to disappear, replaced by a question that completely changed the tone of the conversation. I think uh my sergeant is going to talk to your mom real quick, see what she wants done. Uh we're going to talk to the other normal police department and see see what they want done as well. Uh but right now, you're at least going to jail for interference right now cuz you interfere with my investigation and my ability to put handcuffs on you. That's why I apologize cuz I didn't know what what you were doing. I didn't know what was going on. >> You're still going to jail for that. >> That's We can't just be a D. I'm I didn't I didn't know what was going on. I'm telling you, I was on the phone with my mom. I wasn't trying to interfere with nothing. I was literally trying to call my mom out. That's my right hand. Honestly, >> but you still interfered with it. Whether you know know that or not. That's still interference with official acts. I can charge you. >> How that interfered and I let you put the handcuffs on me. >> No, you did not. I had to fight you for that. >> No, my hands were still behind my back. I didn't >> It was both. First of all, it was two of y'all grabbing at the same time. So, it's like he grabbed my arm. >> I'm not going to sit here and argue with you, but when you landed on your right hand and arm, you continued to tense up on me and I had to pull your arm back. >> I wasn't pissing up on you. That's what I'm trying to tell you. He was >> We can sit here and argue about it all night, but I'm not going to do it. So, you're going to jail regardless. Okay. >> So, you like you really going to charge me for >> I am going to charge you for it. Yep. >> And I'm apologizing to you and I'm telling you I mean it does wonder. I guess it it's great, but it's not getting you out of jail. I didn't try to tense up with you. >> Yes. Okay. You keep saying you're so you charging me. >> I am. Yes. >> What are you charging me with? >> Interference with official acts. >> Okay. What is that? >> It is a simple misdemeanor. >> A misdemeanor? >> Yep. >> So, I'm going to jail and I'm going to have to sit in jail. >> Yep. Unless you can bond out. >> What you mean unless I can bond out? You really like I did not tense up with you. >> Yes. Yes, you [laughter] did. I'm telling you, I didn't like I'm I'm trying to tell you I'm I'm pregnant. You was getting That's all I was trying to tell you. I was all I was trying to tell you was I was pregnant. >> I didn't give a chance to because you just started grabbing my arm and then your friend started grabbing my other arm. You had one arm and he had the other arm. >> Okay. >> You are still going to jail. >> And what about what about the other the other two boys? >> Uh they will probably also be going to jail as well. >> Why are they going to jail for? >> Uh just depending on what the what the charges we have on them for. But we don't I don't know yet. We don't know what charges. >> She was charged with possession of stolen property/ a stolen vehicle and obstructing official business causing injury. Next, all it took was a request to show her driver's license, but she immediately turned the roadside into a constitutional courtroom, and the confrontation was only beginning. >> What's that? >> Uh yes, ma'am. You actually were doing uh over 50 mph in a 35 mph zone in a school zone. Um, >> yes, ma'am. You were speeding. >> You were speeding. Yes, ma'am. Can I see your driver's license, please? >> Ma'am, can I see your driver's license, please? >> Ma'am, can you go ahead and give me your driver's license, please? >> Ma'am, I need to see your driver's license, please. radio. >> Ma'am, I need to see your driver's license, please. >> I told you. I told you. Ma'am, you were speeding. [clears throat] >> Ma'am, you're speeding in the school zone. >> 3120. I have a non-compliant driver. >> I need to see your driver's license, ma'am. >> I do not consent to this. >> Okay. Okay. It doesn't matter if you consent to this. I don't understand. >> Okay. I told you you were speeding in a school zone. >> Okay. I'm telling you what's going on right now. You were speeding in a school zone. >> Okay. >> I I'm happy to help. >> I want to help you, >> ma'am. That's >> I'm going to need to see your driver's license. >> You're fa You failed to obey. >> Yes, I have, ma'am. I have. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, are you giving me a statuto? >> You were speeding, ma'am. Ma'am, you were speeding. If you do not give me your driver's license, it is going to lead to you being arrested and going to the Foresight County Jail. Okay. I would like for you to give me your driver's license. You were speeding in a school zone doing over 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. >> Okay, ma'am. >> Gear up, ma'am. >> This is not the time and place. Yes, you are being detained right now. >> Where where's the warrant? You just committed a crime back there. You were speeding in the school zone. >> Where's the victim? I >> ma'am. >> You were speeding in the school. >> But when determination turned into non-compliance, the minutes she spent arguing to protect herself quietly [snorts] opened the door to another problem. >> You're going to go to jail if you do not comply right now. >> Ma'am, >> I'm trying to help. >> Ma'am, you're not helping. You're making this harder on yourself. I'm happy to help. I need >> Ma'am, I need you to give me your driver's license. >> You are speeding in a school zone doing over 50 mph in a 35 mph zone. Okay. >> All right. I would just like to give you a citation and get and you can go around your your way. >> But I cannot give you that until you provide me your driver's license. You're required by law to give me your driver's license right now. >> The constitution. The state of Georgia says you have to provide me your driver's license when your case for this is a legal stop, ma'am. Okay. I need you to provide me your driver's license. >> I did nothing on >> Yes, ma'am. You were speeding in a school zone. >> I did nothing on >> ma'am. I need you to give me your driver's license. I'm going to ask you one last time. Otherwise, I'm going to remove you from this vehicle and you're going to go to jail. >> I don't consent to that. >> It doesn't matter what you consent to at this point. >> Doesn't matter what I consent to. When the officers ordered her out of the vehicle, I do not consent was still her answer. But this time, the consequences were no longer just on paper. I do not. [screaming] WHAT ARE YOU DOING? GO TO THE TRAIL. GO TO the >> Oh my god. >> Not going to hold up for somebody. >> Oh my god. Not yet. I saw one area. >> I I didn't mean to do it. I I asked to see what the constitutional emergency was. I was trying to help and I said, "Oh, just talk." >> So, what what part of you was injured? >> Right. My wrists were injured. My knees were scraped against the ground. my throttle. I was put in a chokeold. What are your feet? Do you mind if I look at this road? >> Seconds later, screaming replaced every legal argument while what began as a simple traffic stop had gone far beyond what she expected. >> Base car. Base car. >> Nothing in your pockets or anything like that. Yeah. Go and have a seat. >> Let's check these. >> You already loosened it. >> All right. So, those are as loose as they can go. They I can fit two fingers in there. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, I I'll tell you something. If you if you keep your hands just the way they are, so the cuffs won't twist around, it it'll stay comfortable that way. It it'll stay more comfortable that way. Under Georgia Code section 40-5-121, a first conviction for driving with a suspended license is a misdemeanor punishable by 2 days to 12 months in jail, and a fine of $500 to $1,000. She was arrested for driving with a suspended license, while the incident also involved speeding in a school zone, failing to produce a driver's license, and obstructing police by refusing to exit the vehicle. She thought I do not consent was a legal shield, but in the end, she simply traded a traffic ticket for handcuffs. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support our fundraiser. Thank you so much.