Are you making me get out of the vehicle under threat of arrest? >> I can't identify you, man. >> Sir, are you making me get out of the vehicle under the threat of arrest? >> Because I can't identify you, please step out of the car. >> No, I'm saying are you making me get out under threat of arrest? >> Are you going to step >> Am I under arrest or am I am I see where my seat is on a probable cause? >> verify who I'm speaking to because you won't give me your driver's >> My my my my ID is right there on the back of the car, sir. >> Okay, you want to grab it? So I can >> mean? No, my ID is the plate. It's That's my ID. That's my identification for you. >> So is there a reason why there's a temp plate on the car? >> Why not? >> You want to give me that information? >> Why not? >> Okay, go ahead and step out. >> Am I under threat of arrest? >> A police officer pulled over a driver after claiming that his temporary license plate was not showing up in the system, even though the tag was clearly displayed, properly validated, and had only recently been issued. When the driver calmly questioned the legality of the stop, pointed out that his registration and insurance were both valid, and repeatedly asked the officer to explain the legal basis for his demands, the officer escalated the encounter by threatening arrest, ordering him out of the vehicle, and warning that he could be cited for lacking proper documentation. But instead of backing down, the driver continued recording, challenged the officer's understanding of temporary tags, and pointed out the inconsistencies in his reasoning. In the end, when the officer could no longer justify the stop or support the citations he had threatened to issue, he was forced to abandon any enforcement action, return the driver's documents, and allow him to leave without receiving a single ticket. >> What happened? >> What's that? >> What's going on? What's going on? >> you over is >> Yeah. >> our rear license plate is not coming back to anything. >> That's not right. That's not true. >> Okay, do you have your driver's license registration >> Sir, that's not true. >> Okay, do you have your driver's license >> See my You see here it was running again. >> Okay, do you have your driver's license >> You can run it again, sir. >> Okay, do you have your driver's license >> Can you run my plate again? Sir, you just opened up my door? >> Yeah, go ahead and step out then. >> Sir, what? For what? Am I going to be under arrest? >> You going to hand me your driver's license? >> Uh, this is illegal stop, sir. >> This is This is a legal stop. >> This is illegal. >> Okay, do you have your driver's license >> I'm telling you my license my my plate is right, so I don't know what's the problem. >> Okay, do you have your driver's license? I'm >> Didn't you run my plate already? >> It's not coming back to anything. Do you have your driver's license? >> Why why you need my license for? >> Why? Because I'm on a traffic stop. I'm asking you to identify yourself. >> No, I don't have to identify myself. I got a plate on my car. >> as well. You have to identify yourself. >> I'm here I'm here legally, sir. Can you uh call your supervisor? >> Yeah, go ahead and step out, though. >> I Why do I have to step out of the car for? >> Cuz I'm asking you to. It's a traffic stop, man. >> What you That is not a That's not how traffic stops work. >> something. So >> I'm not I'm not going to step out of the car. What do I got to step out of the car for? I don't feel safe to step out of the car, sir. >> Okay, so that's not how this works. >> How do What do you mean how this works? That is how it works. >> Okay, I'm going to ask you >> You You stopped me illegally. >> I'm going to explain that. But right now I'm going to ask >> So, I'm under arrest. You see I'm You you you you made me get out of the car under threat of arrest, right? >> Under threats of arrest? >> You just said I'm going to arrest if I don't get out of the car. >> Because I have to I verify >> Sir, are you making me get out of the vehicle under threat of arrest? >> I cannot identify you, man. >> Sir, are you making me get out of the vehicle under threat of arrest? >> Because I cannot identify you, please step out of the car. >> No, I'm saying are you making me get out under threat of arrest? >> Are you going to step >> Am I under arrest or am I am I being reasonably seized on probable cause? >> I cannot verify who I'm speaking to because you won't give me your driver's >> My My My My ID is right there on the back of the car, sir. >> Okay, you want to grab it? So I >> What do you mean? No, my ID is the plate. That's my ID. That's my identification for you. >> So is there a reason why there's a temp plate on the car? >> Why not? >> You want to give me that information? >> Why not? >> Okay, go ahead and step out. >> Am I under threat of arrest? >> I'm asking you to step out of the car. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Sir, so you're making me get out under threat of arrest? >> Yep, step out of the car. Face the door, please. Pat you down, make sure you don't have weapons on you. Okay, so this is where we're at right now. So I cannot >> All right, can you stand back from me? Cuz you I feel I feel threatened, man. No, you just you just you just threatened to grab me. You just threatened to put your hands on me. Where we at is you got me out here for a legal stop. I don't answer questions by police officers. So if you ask me any questions, I'm not going to answer them. >> Okay, that's fine. So take your hands out of your pockets. So right now, the reason I stopped you is because when we run the plate, it doesn't come back to anybody. >> Sir, my plate is is totally legit. >> Okay, is there a reason for the temp plate? >> It's no I don't have to answer any questions by police officer. >> Okay. Um do you have your ID? >> Yes, I do. >> Okay. Do you Do you want to grab it? Do you want to identify >> Are you going to arrest me? Am I under arrest? Am I Am I being detained? >> Well, if if you don't identify yourself, yes. >> Okay. There you go. There you go. I'll let you take it out. >> Thank you. >> Cuz I don't want you to feel threatened and I don't want to feel threatened. >> I appreciate that. Is it Mr. Palmer? >> Yes. >> Okay. Do you have Do you have the the certificate of registration? >> I have everything, sir. >> Is it in the vehicle? >> Yes, it Yes, it is in the >> insurance in the vehicle? >> Everything, sir. >> Okay, I need to see that. >> Okay. >> Are you willing to grab that? >> Uh I got to do it under threat of arrest? >> If you don't do that, you're going to get tickets. I don't want to do that. I'm not a big ticket writing man. >> I'm going to get tickets for what? Everything is legit on my vehicle. >> one, no proof of insurance. >> Huh? >> Okay. You might have insurance You might have insurance on the vehicle, but I need to see proof. Does that make sense? >> Okay, you ran my plate, you would see it has proof of insurance. >> But I need to see like a hard copy >> Have you ever got a Have you ever Have you ever got a plate for a tag plate for your car? >> I have not. >> So you never So you never had a new car in your life? >> I have had a new car. >> Okay, so you had So you had a tag plate. A temporary plate. Okay. >> Are you going to show me >> Did you actually look at the plate? You haven't even looked at the plate all the way correctly, have you? >> I was behind you, lady. >> All right. Do you see the blue stamp on that plate from the Secretary of State? >> So listen. >> Sir, do you see the blue plant from the Secretary of State on there? >> I'm not going to go back and forth. >> You All right, you can DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. >> You'll be getting two tickets. >> Go ahead. Do whatever you want to do, sir. >> Um so you you have a warning and a warning >> You can call whatever you want to do. Whatever you want to do, sir. >> I'm not going to take you to jail on >> I don't care about the warning. That's the point. It's It's like 20 years old. So go do whatever you want to do, sir. >> Okay. I'm not going to take you to jail on the >> I don't care I don't care about none of that. >> I'm going to cut you a couple tickets and we'll let you get out of here. >> You write me a ticket for what? Did you You haven't even looked at my plate. It says Secretary of State right there. >> So I'm going to grab the VIN off of there. >> That's from Secretary of State Gratz a plate. Do you Have you looked at the plate? You haven't looked at the plate either, have you? >> I did, sir. >> All right. So you see the Secretary of State stamp on there? >> If you show up to court um with the insurance and the registration, I'll wave the tickets. >> Sir, it's no waving it. My My plate is right here. >> I'm not going to go I'm I'm done going back and forth. Okay. >> Do you have registration >> Do you know this is you helping him with the illegal stop? Do you know you're going to be going to court with him? >> Do you have the the insurance? >> Sir, where's the supervisor? >> Um so I >> Sir, I want to see a supervisor. >> What's So what's the reasoning for the supervisor? >> Because you giving me you stop stopped me illegally. >> So So I didn't. >> Yes, you did. You are stopping me illegally. >> I'm not stopping you. >> You passed stopped me illegally. You trying to give me tickets for something that clearly I have insurance and clearly I have a registration. >> need to see proof. >> What do you mean proof? It's proof right there, Secretary of State. >> No, so the insurance >> Sir, this says Secretary of State on it. Sir, can you call your supervisor? How long is it going to be? How long am I going to be in the tank? Sir, can you get the supervisor down here, sir? Sir. Officer. >> All right, so you can have a good night, okay? I'm not going to write you any tickets. Make sure you get that warrant taken care of. >> All right. >> Okay. Have a good night. >> Well, you know you're still going to court, right? >> That's fine. >> Okay.