You're bringing Walmart out here. Cuz Walmart would actually broke her a trespass. That's what you're saying. That's how you do it. I mean we we were auditing so that I mean like I'm going to let you go. I'll let you go. That's felony. A citizen's arrest are felonies only. Citizen's arrest are felonies only. Police issued a parking citation in a private lot without clear justification or prior notice, then refused to explain the legal basis or call a supervisor. When challenged, they turned aggressive and tried to avoid accountability. But under pressure, their position quickly unraveled, forcing a hasty retreat. >> How you doing? I'm Pastor Rodney Stevens. Are you on private property right now? Private property? Yeah, you're in violation of parking ordinances. We've given you a warning prior and you're still here. You haven't given us any warning for one. Uh secondly, there there's been You haven't given us any warning at all. Uh secondly, this is private property right here. This is a Walmart parking lot. It's posted, sir. What's posted? The posting is right there. I mean I've been asking you. Oh, absolutely. Can you call your supervisor supervisor here, please? Sure, after I write the citation. That's okay. I mean it's private property. We we deal with this quite often. So we're auditors and police officers retaliate against auditors. Yeah, we audit cuz we we audit civilian police officers in various Yeah. We did an audit yesterday and it was a successful audit. It was a pass. We had not seen a pass since anybody before so we really odd about it that day. Uh Deputy Sheriff came by or is Officer Sheriff? Uh yeah, he's Officer But you you you've never interacted with us. So this this is your your speaking as if you do and you're coming very aggressively, but you've never interacted with us in your life. We've never been to Simi Valley before. I talked to you the people of the van yesterday. I warned them that you can't be here. What what van are you talking about? What This is a bus. This is a bus right here. What van are you talking about? You talked to who? Because we record every interaction we have with police officers in the Freedom of Information Act. What's the expiration on this? These stickers haven't been changed ever. Do you have the registration for the vehicle? Michelle, you have that? Are you going to call your supervisor? One second. Once you're done here I need a supervisor here to record this interaction. But you're on private property right now. As if you were working as a public servant on private property. Would you like me to hand the citation to you, sir? I'm not the driver. I'm not the owner of the vehicle. You want to tell me your name? No. It's okay, sir. And then you're you're irrelevant at this point. Just please stay away from the license plate. Are you trying to take people's homes? Is that what you're trying to do? Cause fines and fees to where they can't pay for their homes. Is that what you're doing here? Is that what's going on? Like generating revenue for the state? Is that what you're doing? Hey, what what's the purpose? You're pulling in the parking lot of Walmart and you're writing a citation on a vehicle for no reason at all. And there's not really a reason behind it. >> I don't understand why you're even talking to me right now. Michelle. Well, I have a power of attorney with her. I'm attorney in fact for her. I I'll leave you alone. I mean I I It it seems strange to me. It seems like a retaliation is what it seems like. Yes, it's Michelle. So the long story is short, there's a lot of things burnt down in California, including her house, my house. So this is as close as we got to a new house so far. And we're traveling back. We came down and bought it. We built it into a motor home so that we have a place for our children. It's actually a school for our children, but you just pulled into a private property and you have like literally didn't call your supervisor without but Okay, this new deal now. You would you We've now completed the parking citation. Would you like a supervisor? I I guess we can handle it by going if we if I'll talk to her about it. If she wants to, we'll go down and talk to him at the station. It seems weird to you going into a private property to parking citation in private property. I I understand I'm staying up there. And you're aware of the state of California laws that they post things on the entrance? What where what I haven't Yeah, I haven't seen any posting. I am well aware that that that laws and regulations should be well known by the people who have to follow them. I haven't seen anything that say like I haven't. I'll go check. I'll check though cuz I'm not going to just I mean Michelle, do you want to wait until you talk to the supervisor at the office or do you want to do it now? He can't resend a citation so I mean we can I can just go to the judge and just tell the judge. I mean yeah, because it's appeals court. Like eventually it goes to Supreme Court. They've already ruled on this. So like eventually you look embarrassed. So we appeal it all the way to Supreme Court every time. That's what we do. So eventually the same judge has already ruled against this. So she's again No, she does. I'm a I'm attorney in fact for her. So then why is the parking here? Well, you if you go around the country harming homeless and poor people intentionally by pulling in parking lots and just dealing with them like in a harsh and aggressive manner, that's window breaking activity. We're going to leave now and go to write another parking citation. All right. Thank you for taking it, sir, and accepting the citation. Is this a supervisor? Oh. That's not a supervisor. Okay. No, just you want to write a ticket, she can write you one. >> [clears throat] >> I think I think that's good for 72 hours if I'm right I remember right. Actually it's not. No. Um you actually you're being issued a citation Um right now we are on private What citation is it for? Well, for violating Walmart parking restrictions. So Walmart has sign parking citation They do. They have the signs here. Walmart has signs here. So you you're writing a citation for violating Walmart parking restrictions. You were actually sent here from another Yeah, we were sent here by a police officer. Yeah, by a police officer. You would broke her a trespass. That's what you're saying. That's how you do it. I mean we we were auditing so that I mean like I'm going to let you go. I'll let you go. That's felony. A citizen's arrest are felonies only. Citizen's arrest are felonies only. So All right. I I So they called you is what you're saying. You don't know. I can find out the call number. You don't Did they call y'all? Honestly, I don't know, sir. You don't know if they called you though. Okay. All right, Corporal Winsberg. Okay. I didn't get the data. And I needed a witness, too. Okay. All right. Approach? I would never do that. I What between the vehicle? I did You parked right there. Oh, well I I I listen, I'm a normal citizen. I don't know all these rules you're giving out. Yes, I'm a normal citizen. Well, I'm going to leave you alone then so I don't want to shoot me. I don't want to shoot me.