We're not asking you guilty king questions. I don't know that. If we were asking you guilty king questions, is your name a guilty KING QUESTION? IS YOUR AGE a guilty king question? >> ask me my name or my age. A routine walk turns into a tense confrontation when officers stop a man for carrying a legal item without any evidence of a crime. Instead of clarifying the situation, they escalate, drawing equipment, issuing commands, and demanding answers. But as he calmly stands his ground and challenges the legal basis for the stop, their justification begins to unravel. In the end, with no reasonable suspicion to hold him, the officers are forced to back off, allowing him to walk away while raising serious questions about authority and overreach. How's it going? Keep your hands up. Keep your hands up. Keep your hands here. My My weapon's holstered on the right side. All right. Go over there and drop your weapon on the ground. These two? No, no, no. Okay. What are you doing? What are you doing? Taking a walk. Come out to the house and walk around the block. >> you got there? I'd rather not answer any questions. Am I being detained? Well, no, but we get calls about somebody walking around with a gun. Okay. I want I want those answers. I've been getting calls all over town, okay? You can continue to be an [ __ ] to me or you can start answering my questions. Okay. You're a supervisor, Officer Horn? No, I'm not a supe. I appreciate you cos man. You need to get your mouth in check. All right. But you don't have to be so >> Right. All we want TO DO IS FIND OUT INFORMATION. OKAY. You've got four guys with guns. We've got and you got to got to do a job. I understand. >> And we've got citizens yelling that you're walking AROUND WITH A GUN. What do you want What do you expect us to do? Second Amendment of the United States Constitution and the Missouri Constitution says the right of the people to keep and bear arms. >> Okay. In Missouri, you may openly carry a firearm. When we get When we get calls from the public that somebody's walking around with a gun, we've got to investigate. >> Okay, I'm here. I'm peaceful. >> I'm asking you a question. What kind of gun do you have there? Okay, I don't think I'm going to plead the Fifth Amendment, sir. What are you doing walking around? I'm simply a Second Amendment rights activist. In Missouri, you are allowed to carry a firearm openly. That's right. How old are you? I'm not going to answer any questions. I am going to invoke my Fifth Amendment right right now. If you continue to ask my father questions under duress, we're going to have problems. I'm going to get in contact with my attorney. We have a city ordinance that says if you refuse to cooperate with us, then we can arrest you. >> I'm going to cooperate with you fully, but the Fifth Amendment You're not asking me my You're not answering my questions. >> Amendment of the United States Constitution says I have the right to remain silent. >> You have to comply with us when we're asking you questions. We're not asking you guilty king questions. I don't know that. If we were asking you guilty king questions, is your name a guilty king question? IS YOUR AGE a guilty king question? >> ask me my name or my age. He asked you how He asked you how old you were. He asked me how old I was, excuse me. But I am still I'm going to say here and claim my Fifth Amendment right. Okay, that's fine. You can invoke your Fifth I'm not asking YOU ANY INCRIMINATING QUESTIONS. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT PEDIGREE INFORMATION. >> OKAY. And in the state of Missouri, there is no stop and identify law. There is not one. >> But we have a city ordinance that says you have to cooperate with us and answer our questions. >> But when people start calling us and saying there's somebody walking around with a gun on their side, we have to investigate it. >> you As long as you're not causing any problems or anything like that, you're free to go on your way. But until we find out that you're not causing any problems, we have to investigate it. Okay. We have to check into it. Make sure you're not wanted or anything like that. >> Okay, so since I am not free to go, I'm going to assume that I'm being detained cuz that's what the Supreme Court has ruled. So in order to detain me, you guys need reasonable suspicion. What do you reasonably suspect me of doing wrong today, Officer Gibson? What do you reasonably We have suspicion that some that a subject is walking around the town with a gun on their side in a holster. >> Which is not illegal. >> You're right, it's not. You must have reason to suspect a crime. >> However, the state of Missouri gives us power to investigate and make sure you're not up committing any crimes, which is what we are trying to do right now. We're trying to figure out where you're coming from and where you've been. Okay. For all we know, you could have strong-arm robbed somebody up there at Walmart at this moment and we're sitting here talking to you and they're either unconscious or unable to tell anybody that they've been robbed. >> Common sense dictates that a felon who has just committed a felony is not going to walk down the street with a holstered weapon. >> Let me ask you a question. Why do you feel the need to videotape us? Because I feel my rights are being violated right now. I have nothing to hide cuz I'm not violating your rights. Okay. I'm doing my job and trying to figure out why a subject is walking around with a gun open. Okay, so say you get a call with somebody who has a red shirt on and somebody says, "I think this guy is suspicious cuz he's wearing a red shirt." Are you going to say, "I have to determine"? No, I'm gun aside because both >> You're carrying a gun, so let's not aside. Yes, so this is aside. I'm making I'm making an not an allegory, but I'm trying to illustrate an idea to you. Where are you Where are you going? I would prefer to continue on foot. Where's your car at? It's at the BP right up here. So what are you So okay, let's go back to my first question. >> Okay. Why are we out Your car's parked at BP. Why are we out taking a stroll, taking a walk? Are you trying to get the public TO CONTACT US BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A GUN ON YOUR SIDE? IS that what you're trying to do? No. IS IS ARE YOU TRYING TO INCITE THE PUBLIC >> NO. into being nervous cuz you're walking around? >> No. Cuz that's what it appears like. You have no other reason why you're walking around. Why won't you just drive there? Why Why do you feel the need to walk around town? Th- Th- This is my thing, okay? You're trying to get us to be respond to you. And while we You're walking around causing citizens to contact us. I'm not doing anything to impede your police work. People see people with a gun, they assume that somebody's doing something. They assume. What What I would advise you guys to do is to get in contact with your higher-ups and train your operators a little better to ask, "Is the person carrying a holstered weapon?" Because that is no threat to anybody's public safety whatsoever. The Second Amendment of the United States says I have the right to keep and bear arms. >> You're right, you do. However, AT ANY POINT IN TIME, you could pull that weapon and start firing into cars as you're walking DOWN A FIVE FIVE-LANE FIVE LANE ROAD HERE. OKAY, you going to stop that person because they might run somebody over with their vehicle? If somebody called If you were driving If you were driving like a Am I being reckless with my weapon? Once again, Officer Horn, I would like to end this right here right now, Officer Gibson. I Am I being detained or am I free to go? Yes, go. No, am I free to proceed on foot? >> No, you're not. Okay, what What are you charging me with? Because you're you are causing a disturbance to the public. Yeah, now you You know what? You're disturbing the peace because the Okay, I'm willing to continue with him. They've got a safety issue. I'm willing to continue with my father. >> the peace cuz we have public that is calling us to tell Talk about it later. Okay. Okay, I can appreciate you guys being very Okay. You guys have a good day. You too.