You'll be under arrest if you refuse to identify yourself. >> Okay. Act of another crime? >> No. Refusing to identify. Refusing to obey a lawful order is a crime. >> What's the Fourth Amendment, bud? >> Unlawful search and seizure. >> Uh-huh. Do I have >> I'm not searching you. I'm not seizing you. >> To be secure in my person, papers, and effects. >> Correct. >> Especially if I haven't trespassed. I haven't been on their property. >> You're on their property right now. >> No, I'm not. You think I am. You think I'm on their property. You have yet to say where their property line is, cuz I know where it's at. So, if there's a So, if So, Just because they maintain it doesn't mean they own it. >> Yes, they do. >> Oh my god. >> If the city owned it, they would maintain it. >> Huh? >> If the city owned it >> What is this right here? >> What is this right here, sir? >> Sir, there has to be a line. There's a line that goes all the way down. I can be on that grass down there. Did you know they own that grass down there? But they don't own where the public has a right to walk. Just like your house. You think you own the part of the sidewalk that cuts your driveway off? You don't. You don't. Same thing with businesses. If there's a street here and it's a public street, the public has to be able to walk somewhere without being in the roadway. Yeah, ma'am. Tell them where I was on your property. Up there on the public sidewalk.