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What can we do for you, detectives? Just come from the coroner's office. They gave us this address for Maggie Callister. Yes, Maggie's been staying with us, which explains why she gave this address when she claimed Joe's body. >> She's not here now, though. She's returned to work. How long she been staying here? On and off for a couple of weeks. Since before her husband's death. Joe stayed here a few nights as well. Nice bed and breakfast. They're having their apartment painted, putting it on the market. We heard they were having marital problems. If so, we never heard. Neighbors said they were really going at it. They have strong personalities. So do we. Nothing unhealthy about that. Doesn't it feel great when you say what you feel? I tried that with my first wife. How long have you known the Callisters? Ah, we met at a rare books auction last year. We were bidding on the same first edition of Sanders Geographica. If you'll excuse me for saying so, you and the Callisters hardly seem to be in the same league. It's just appearances, Detective. If you have more questions, you should ask Maggie. Excuse us. Maggie! Trust me. Do what they say. Hold your head up. You can handle this. Margaret Callister, you're under arrest for the murder of [music] your husband, Joseph, and five other people. I didn't do it. >> your prints on the bomb. You will be fine. >> [music] >> You have the right to remain silent. The subpoena was entirely unnecessary. >> We knocked. Nobody answered. Ever lose anyone close to you? Mr. Grace. Hard, right? Please. We went to our Rockland County retreat, turned off the phones, tried to understand how bad things happen to great people. Looks like things started to go bad for the Callisters long before this. Their lifestyles changed. For the better. They were rudderless before. Before they met you? Before they were in touch with themselves. Thanks to you. I helped them understand that nobody could take away the success they were entitled to. Success comes from in here. So, maybe you can explain how a million dollars of the Callisters money found its way into the KBG Corporation. People only value the things they pay for. Our friends value learning to feel good about themselves. Learning that is worth a million dollars? We make it stick. You know the old story about giving a man a fish versus teaching him to fish? We teach our friends to fish. >> Last year three of our friends had IPOs in the hundred million range. It works, Mr. Carmichael. And does this happen with all the members of your group? Group? You do have a group, don't you? Wide circle of friends. Followers. If a friend sees a movie on your recommendation, is he a follower or just interested in your opinion? And how's your opinion delivered? We have meetings, retreats, seminars. We're people. We share our ideas with friends. And in return, they make you rich. Our friends are grateful, yes. But we are in a business. Check our records. We intend to. I could contest any subpoena. But why would we? Maybe you'd like to see a pamphlet on our courses. An ambitious guy like you might want to consider looking at things a new way. That's it for guns, two $15,000 Parkers? They shoot skeet. What do you keep in the shed? Tools. Show us. >> [groaning] >> What's the dynamite for? We got beaver dams. Pretty big beavers. Eight half sticks. You got enough to take you into the next decade. Eight. That'll be ten. How about a dozen half sticks used, too? Anybody else have a key to the shed? Just Mr. Grace. People v. Elias and Valerie Grace. Murder in the first degree, six counts each. How do the defendants plead? Not guilty, your honor. With my husband, not guilty. Domestic accord, how touching. People on bail? Remand, your honor. The Graces killed six people in collusion with Margaret Callister in an effort to keep one of them from leaving their cult. Cult? There is no cult, your honor, and no evidence linking my clients to the bomb. Our lab made a chemical match of the bomb with the explosives seized at the defendants' estate. >> Any one of a number of people had access to that dynamite. Elias Grace worked with explosives at a quarry and has a history of threatening and violent behavior. >> A domestic incident six years ago, Judge Manheim, that hardly merits consideration. I think my wife would disagree. And as to motive, your honor, the notion that my clients would harm Callister over a relatively insignificant sum. >> Approximately $1 million at last count, your honor. >> My clients have access to over $50 million. Then 10 million each shouldn't be a problem. Please sit down. We'll take your apology standing up. We know about your affair with Joe Callister. What are you talking about? This was taken by a security camera at a hotel near the airport the day Joe Callister was killed. That's you, Mrs. Grace. There to meet Joe Callister who had reserved a room, only thanks to your husband, Joe never showed up. I don't know what that tape purports to show, but my wife was not having an affair. Sweetheart. We're willing to consider a deal, Mrs. Grace. Elias knew about Joe. Valerie, I strongly urge you to keep your mouth shut. >> This is absurd. >> before Joe died. Elias came in the room. I was knitting. I I do that when I'm bored. >> Valerie, focus. [music] Think what you're doing. >> He said he knew about Joe and me. Heard me on the phone with Joe. >> All right, now I'm telling you, be quiet. >> kept knitting and then he said he forgave me. He said I was only [music] human. People make mistakes and I I believed him. And he believed [music] me. I'd like a word with my wife. Her turn now, Mr. Grace. >> can just speak to her >> [music] >> quite enough. My attorney then. >> Time to listen. Please continue, [music] Mrs. Grace. I kept knitting. [music] And I lied to him. And I told him Joe and I were finished. I lied even when he forgave [music] me. I lied. And I never dropped a stitch. You knew your husband killed him. No. Not until Mr. Hexter told me the dynamite came from [music] the shed. Why didn't you come forward then? I know what he's capable of. I was terrified. >> WHO ARE YOU? I MADE YOU WHAT YOU ARE. >> AND THEN you lied. You couldn't stand that I strayed and look what you did. >> Mr. McCoy take the death penalty off the table. We'll work something out. There are [music] six dead people who can't work something out, Mr. Hexter. You gain nothing by executing Elias Grace. Please don't kill my husband. Mrs. Grace, you just admitted you knew your husband's a murderer. >> Just just let him live. If it if it weren't for me, for my weakness. I found out she was having [music] an affair when I was on a business trip to Seattle. I called Valerie at home. It was late. No answer. Nobody knew where she was. A week later, I overheard her talking on the phone to someone named Joe. Her voice was different. I confronted her. At first, she denied it. Then she told me the truth. She was with Joe Callister. Jay asked me to forgive her. Week later, I found a hotel card key in her purse. She'd lied to me. She was still seeing him. I discovered Joe was withholding money. They were planning something. I told Maggie Callister. She was very angry. I gave her the box to give to Joe. And you know the rest. I'm trying to give you the bum's rush, fellas, but I've got to get this Lingard segment ready to air on Sunday. >> Those videotapes are evidence in two homicides, Mr. Nolan. So, if you're thinking of concealing them That'd be pretty dumb of me since the whole world's going to see them on Sunday. Uh Arty, be a good man and burn a DVD of Driscoll and that other >> Tom Lupo. You should work with us, Mr. Nolan. We saw how you got Lingard to confess on camera 10 years ago. It's pretty smooth. Good enough for an Emmy. Larry, you've been sick for years. So, why now? My condition was getting worse month by month. I came to believe that the doctors and my family were keeping the truth about my disease from me. But now, thanks to you, Bill, I got my real medical report. That's right. Thanks to you, I now know I have ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease. It's a slow, certain, agonizing death. So, this is my response. No one helped me. I rigged it myself. >> [groaning] >> Shouldn't someone check his pulse? Whatever role Linda Guard's daughter played in the suicide, Larry Driscoll basically exonerated her. >> But it's bull. It doesn't matter. It's a dying declaration. Prosecuting her would be a waste of time. Hold on, Ed. Driscoll said he had Lou Gehrig's. The autopsy says that he had something called spinal muscular atrophy. What? And Driscoll thought he had Lou Gehrig's because of a medical report that no one gave him, right? Since he committed suicide thinking he had Lou Gehrig's, I suggest we get the ME to sort this out. Driscoll was diagnosed with type 4 spinal muscular atrophy 20 years ago. It's non-lethal. People with SMA can maintain a fulfilling quality of life. It's nothing like the horror show of Lou Gehrig's. >> The video mentioned a medical report that said Driscoll had Lou Gehrig's. Well, 3 weeks ago, Driscoll had himself checked out at St. Fabian's Hospital. They misdiagnosed him with Lou Gehrig's. The original report stayed in this file. That's what ended up in Bill Nolan's hands. Somebody dropped the ball. Maybe our little angel of mercy can tell us how that happened. This looks like trouble. Something [music] wrong, Mr. Nolan? I have to get ready to tape a segment for Sunday's show. >> Pretty enough now for your mug shot. Now, get up. You're under arrest [music] for murder. Already called Gerard now. This is going to kill your career. Mr. Nolan was charged with second-degree manslaughter. He pled not guilty, and the judge set bail at $250,000. These charges are an attack on the press, on the First Amendment. Our new District Attorney, Jack McCoy, was appointed to serve out Arthur Branch's term less than 2 weeks ago, and by the looks of it, our civil liberties are in for a very rough ride. Mr. Driscoll was the cause of his own death. The only role that my client played was that of a journalist conveying a fact to an interview subject. >> conveyed was an erroneous report, knowing the devastating impact that it would have. That report is what caused Mr. Driscoll to take his life. Say whatever you want about the report, my client's hand wasn't on the syringe. >> Well, that's a hair-thin definition of causation. People v. Duffy. The Court of Appeals upheld the manslaughter conviction of a man who gave a gun to his distraught friend. The court ruled that the defendant may be convicted for engaging in reckless conduct that results in another person's suicide. >> Your Honor, I'm asking you to weigh this one fact-checking error against my client's lifelong commitment to journalistic excellence. >> And I would ask you, Your Honor, to weigh Mr. Driscoll's life against Mr. Nolan's craven pursuit of ratings. If he hadn't been in such a rush to televise a suicide, he might have checked his facts. Amen to that, Mr. Cutter. The motion to dismiss is denied. My client would like to close the book on this and move on. The damage to his reputation is incalculable. >> I don't think they care, Gerard. Mr. Cutter, knock it down to criminally negligent homicide, suspended sentence, community service, and a fine. Oh, uh you write a check and Larry Driscoll becomes what? A footnote in an ethics class at the school of journalism? >> I didn't do anything wrong. It wasn't my source at the hospital, it was Larry's. He put me in touch with this person at the hospital. This source never gave me any reason to believe there was anything wrong with the report. The story wasn't even my idea. Mila Hayes came to me. I stayed within the ethics of my profession every damn step of the way. Before we consider a plea, we have to verify your story. We'll need the name of your source. Yeah, the guy got me and Morelli off. That means [music] we were acquitted, as in innocent, as in take a hike. You think we give a crap about some old extortion beef, Bronson? Oh, or you just came by to play oldies on the jukebox? >> No, we're looking at an attempted murder. Guy named Jim Shepherd gunned down on the street. Never heard of him and I don't own a gun. You want to search me? Don't tickle. We know you didn't pull the trigger, Bronson, but we also know who did. Therefore, you're hassling me why? The shooter's a pro, but you set up the job for the interested party. You're dreaming. Your late pal Morelli used this hit man to take out an overdue customer. You would have known about that. Uh-huh. Meanwhile, you'd become acquainted with a lawyer named Muller and his wife, Estelle. Her I remember. She worked in the office. >> Ah, see? Now we're starting to get someplace. So, when she wanted to hire a hit man, she called you. You set her up with [music] the guy you knew about. Now there you lost me again. Hey, you don't think we're going to find a trace of this when we rip through your phone records, your money records, and every little piece of your miserable life? Then you're in for attempted murder. >> [snorts] >> Unless Did you set the lady up with the shooter? Yeah. And she won't pay the back half cuz the job wasn't done and the shooter is getting very unpleasant on the subject. >> Well, then we're going to make everybody happy. You just call the lady back and tell her you found a new man who's going to finish the job. Got me the audience. Lebrono, George Lebrono. Tommy always used this place. Tommy like the Bingham, 38th Street. You know Tommy? Yeah, the Bingham, nice place. Very nice, yeah. You got the money, all the money? Let me see it. I got to see it first. Put it out here. Let me see. Let me see. Four G's, it better be here. I don't like being jerked around. You're a dollar short, I'm going to get very upset. >> You told me 3,500. >> I meant four. That's what I meant. Maybe I said 3,500, I meant four. Gorgeous weapon, cherry numbers burned. It's a giveaway. You ought to be paying for. This is very fine, brand new. What's the matter? It's not okay? You should like it. You don't like it, you ought to be paying more. You got the extra 500, come up with it now. It's a good buy. >> It's fine. It's fine. You want to be Mr. 10%? HERE'S YOUR 10%. GET DOWN! GET DOWN! GET DOWN! >> [groaning] >> GET DOWN! GET HIM UP! GIVE ME YOUR HANDS! GET UP! GET HIM UP! GET HIM UP! GET OFFICER DEANGELO, 524 EC. GET A BUS NOW. >> [clears throat] >> PHIL, 30 YEARS CHARM LIFE. I never even fired. I can't breathe. THESE I CAN'T BREATHE. WE'RE not here to talk you into anything, Phil. Just came by to see me, huh? How good is Lebrano's testimony? It won't nail him. Could help. And Elvis could walk either way. You don't have to do this, Phil. They drop attempted murder, all he gets is assault with a deadly. Mikey, I can walk. I can talk. I can all the important things. This guy, Lebrano's going to do time anyway. Make the deal. He asked for a sterile, said he fired left hand. When you sell illicit firearms, you normally run the risk of dealing with people you've never seen before? This guy, Tony, has a reputation. They say he's done maybe 50, 60 people. Do you want to object, Mr. Minetti? No objection, Your Honor. He's talking about someone named Gaetano, not my client. Mr. Lebrano, we've heard testimony that Manuel Ortega was killed with a .223 automatic. What caliber is the Steyr AUG? It's a .223. And how many guns have you sold in your lifetime? Uh I would guess two or 300. How many of those were Steyr AUGs? 15, 20 at the most. Thank you. No further questions. This isn't a freebie. Until we turn up Cristobal, we've nothing to offer. Hypothetically, when you do find him If the testimony is useful, we can discuss parole recommendation. I I didn't know until I saw him on TV. I sold Cristobal a couple of pieces. He works for them just like Gaetan. >> [clears throat] >> Gaetan killed his son? Romanus. Gaetan was going to set me with the Feds, but might have been Gaetan, might not. Your plea, Ms. Mason? Not guilty. The people request $500,000 bail. >> Your Honor, she defended herself against a rapist. She's 18. She lives with her parents. We ask for ROR. >> She had sex with the victim. There's no evidence she was raped. >> Look, she voluntarily gave a full and candid statement to the police. >> After a week of lies and deception. >> Why don't you both save it for the trial, Judge? $250,000 cash or bond. Daniel Your Honor It is a disgrace that a decent young woman cannot spend an afternoon in our city without becoming prey to a common street hustler. Thank God Daniel Mason fought back. Thank God. Mr. Archer Your Honor I expect the attorney to dismiss the charges against your client. Should they? Yes. Will they? You should ask Ms. Ross that question. For over a month, Mr. McCoy, you haven't presented one witness to the grand jury or issued one subpoena. I'm sure you explained to your clients, Mr. Baylor, there's no rush to indict. >> You have a signed confession. We have a statement which came with a defense that we can't at this time rebut. Can't or won't? Don't be shy. Put your cards on the table. This white girl's lawyers are on the news every other day mocking us. Calling their son a street hustler. >> I'm not trying this case in the media. >> You're not trying this case anywhere. You're saying that the killers of young black men have nothing to fear from the district attorney. >> I understand you're frustrated, but if we go to trial now, we'll lose. Simple as that. It doesn't make sense. She can't prove Charlie raped her. >> It's enough that she says he did. We have to prove he didn't beyond a reasonable doubt. This is just like the last time. I can't go through it again. What last time? A girl accused Charlie of touching her. He has a criminal record? He was a kid. We told Lieutenant Van Buren. It's of no consequence. He was 12 years old. Jane Adams. We're putting you on notice, Mr. McCoy. Either you move this case forward or we start shoving. This court can compel Mr. McCoy to perform his duty. The decision to prosecute, let alone seek an indictment, is solely within my discretion. >> His refusal to indict Danielle Mason is an abuse of that discretion. >> Prosecutorial discretion is absolute. By definition, it can't be abused. >> no absolutes in the law, Mr. McCoy. You have a confession. What's the problem? The defendant made a claim of self-defense. >> Well, let a trial jury decide if she's credible. Mr. McCoy can make his prima facie case for murder. I can only see one reason why he hasn't sought an indictment. >> I want a murder conviction as much as you. Calling me a racist >> Address yourself to me, Mr. McCoy. >> Your honor, it's up to you to give the victim's family a chance at getting justice. With all due respect, your honor, you don't have the authority to force this case before a grand jury. I cite Hammond v. Leonard, Murphy v. Kelly >> care about precedents, Mr. McCoy. I'm granting the petitioner's request. And I'm ordering you to seek an indictment. >> Your honor >> We're done, Mr. McCoy. Either you comply or I'll have you removed from the case and cited for contempt. >> In my opinion, it wasn't relevant, no more than a rape victim's sexual history would be. Permission to treat as hostile? Go ahead. You took a personal interest in this case right from the beginning, didn't you? I'm paid to take a personal interest in every case. >> Oh, in every case you routinely secure court orders? No, not routinely. You routinely conduct interrogations in your precinct? >> No. Then why this time? In my experience, a female suspect is more comfortable talking to a female detective. So, you were concerned with my client's comfort level. Lieutenant Lieutenant, isn't it true that you hijacked this case from your detectives? No. >> If left to their own devices and with the information that you withheld, they would never have booked my client for murder. No. In fact, the only reason that we're here is because you and the entire black community bullied the district attorney into getting an indictment. District attorney himself doesn't even believe in this case. >> Mr. Archer, you are out of order. The jury will disregard counsel's outburst. I'm very sorry, Your Honor. I received this letter late this afternoon. It's unsigned. The author claims to be a co-worker of juror number six, who he says is a racist. Number six, the tool and die maker. The white tool and die maker. The letter reads in part, "I heard him say on several occasions how he can't stand taking the subway anymore because he has to ride with the blacks. He wishes they had a special car for them at the end of the train." Have you spoken to the juror? Yes. Of course, he denies the allegations, but I'm inclined to dismiss him. What a coincidence, Your Honor, the first alternate juror is a young black woman. This letter is a blatant attempt to hang the jury by altering its racial makeup. It's tampering. >> Unless it's true. My husband is waiting for me in the Hamptons. I'll hear arguments on Monday. This is a serious accusation. I hope the judge does the right thing. So serious I had the police check into it. Workers at the Jurors Tool and Die factory said a heavy-set white man driving a red Ford tried to question them about the juror. Doesn't your investigator drive a red Ford, Mr. Baylor? You're saying I wrote this letter. You're accusing me of jury tampering. You better back it up. This isn't the way to get justice for your son. >> We don't know anything about this letter. But from where we sit, your way isn't working. Our way was to get all our ducks in a row before going to the grand jury. >> Right. It's our fault. Charlie was stupid to get mixed up with a white girl. And we're naive to expect a fair trial. Stunts like this letter don't help. They are dragging my son's good name through the mud. What are you doing to stop it? You tell Adam Schiff that if this racist isn't thrown off the jury, I'm releasing the letter to the media. Thanks for meeting with us. I think that you'll agree that our proposal was fair. It's up to Judge Stein if she wants to dismiss a juror. >> Well, she she can't decide on calf versus decaf. We can agree to skip the first alternate and seat the second. A white male instead of a black woman. It maintains the racial makeup we started with. I'll let you know. Ooh, Stein wants to hear from us in an hour. And you'll know in an hour. >> [sighs] >> All right. Let's go. Hey, don't you see what's going on? That letter is a fake. I mean, these these people are trying to rig the jury. They are incapable of playing by the rules. >> Dad. It's just a game to them, Mr. McCoy. They have no respect for our system. And one of their boys raped my daughter and now they're using you to do it again. >> Henry, that's enough. That's enough. Ms. Mason, do you remember dating a black football player in your high school? >> May I don't answer that. You'll get your chance to ask her all the questions you want when she gets on the stand this morning. Then she can sit and listen. That You stopped seeing him after he met your parents. After you broke your arm. You don't have to listen to this crap. >> This is a copy of her medical report from her accident. It states that she had a spiral fracture of the forearm. Where'd you get this? That's not important. I've read enough child abuse reports to know spiral fractures are caused by someone twisting your arm until it breaks. Someone like your father. That's why you stopped seeing that football player. Now, wait a minute. >> That's why you kept Charlie Monroe a secret. Because you were afraid of your father. >> Stop right there. First off, this never gets in front of a jury. I don't need this report. I have a good faith basis to question her about her injury. >> have the report, you can't ask the question. >> Tell that to the appeals court. I'm going to cross-examine you about this. You can lie or refuse to answer, but it'll be out there for everyone to see. You can't do this, Kenny. I certainly can, Mr. Mason. It's all I had to say. >> [music] [music] >> I've advised Daniel to take a plea. Uh, we're thinking man two with a sentence recommendation. I'm thinking the jury is voting to convict on murder two as we speak. Man one, she does 15 years. Dr. Vincent Thurman died in 1997. He was an oncologist at Ramapo Hospital. Where Nathan Robinson died in 1959. It's safe to assume Thurman was Nathan's doctor, but doesn't explain why [music] he was pulling blood out of Eddie Robinson 40 years later. Yeah, but Michael Reed's rant about white people trying to steal his family's blood is starting to make sense. [music] Take a look at this. Thurman founded Hemolabs in 1959. Yeah, I've heard of them. >> [music] >> Big company. Didn't realize they started so small. Yeah, very small. Their first [music] product was cancer cells sold for research. Nathan Robinson died of cancer. Do you have any ongoing research related to a man named Nathan Robinson or Jerome or Jayden Turner? I'm sorry. All of our projects are confidential and proprietary. The reason we're asking, Mr. Dolan, is that among other things, there are allegations concerning an assault on Mr. Turner's 7-year-old son. And you think this is related to my company's research? A private detective named Hernandez was involved. Something may have occurred at the time that he was alone with this boy. Alone? Is that what the child said? Well, that's confidential and proprietary. Before I answer any more questions, I'd like to consult my legal department. They're circling the wagons. Nothing like a subpoena to bust up the party. Hemo Labs tested Jayden to see if he was a descendant of Nathan Robinson. For what purpose? Well, it doesn't say in the documents, but Hemo cell line, the one they make a zillion selling to research labs, is known as Nairo. For Nathan Robinson. Jayden's great-grandfather. Right. We studied Nairo cells in medical school. I never realized until today where they came from. They're the first human cells to stay alive in culture, so they're considered immortal. They're lab staple like white mice or Petri dishes. But if Hemo Labs had Nathan's cells, why would they need genetic material from his great-grandson? Most likely testing a new drug. Who knows what they're cooking up in the basement? All right, any more questions? You know where to find me. Six months ago, one of our researchers discovered that Nairo cells contain a previously unknown oncogene for lung cancer, RJ42. An oncogene? The genetic trigger that activates cancer in healthy cells. It was a huge breakthrough, but the next step was to prove proliferative advantage in cells carrying this oncogene, and the best way to do that was to study the last descendants of Nathan Robinson. Did you plan on compensating the Turners for this donation? They would have been given $10,000. And Nathan Robinson never consented to having his cancer cells harvested, correct? Same thing for his son, Eddie. Nathan Robinson was cared for in a public hospital. >> In a de facto colored ward, this ward in Ramapo Hills Hospital. It was a different time. Mr. Robinson received free care, so it was only fair to take samples for medical research. >> Oh, and for profit. Hemo Labs never paid Nathan nor his descendants a single penny in compensation. >> Taking the sample did not hurt Nathan Robinson or impede his recovery one iota. The drugs that we make have helped millions of people. Have you heard of the Tuskegee experiments? Of course. Then please tell the jury what they were. Doctors recruited black men with syphilis to study the disease. There were abuses. >> Abuses? The doctors withheld penicillin and did nothing while these men rotted to death in agony. >> That has nothing to do with this. >> So you say. Do you know the term night doctors? It's an urban legend. Doctors snatching black residents off the streets to perform medical experiments without their consent. And I can assure you it never happened at Hemalabs. >> No. Hemalabs just did the same thing in the light of day. So you can understand why Michael Reed was so angry at his cousin for helping you. Nothing further. When you hired Mr. Hernandez to find Nathan's descendants, you knew he had a violent record as a police officer? I believe so. Making him the perfect fit to bully them into cooperating. No. Anything to get the blood you needed on the cheap. Just like Dr. Thurman did with Nathan Robinson. Objection. Sustained. Nothing further. We're prepared to make your client an offer. He pleads to man one, we'll recommend 10 years. Jury's still out. We'll take our chances. If they convict, your client could be looking at 25 to life. Now I think we all have an interest in settling this matter. Hemalabs has no liability here. But there is doing the right thing. Or if that doesn't interest you, Mr. Dolan, what's it worth to your company to avoid the publicity of another trial? You want us to bribe Michael Reid to plead him guilty. I have no intention of taking the stand again. 1 million, paid out over 10 years to be divided equally among Nathan Robinson's heirs. >> [snorts] >> Your company has annual revenues of 400 million dollars. We have to draw a line, Mr. Cutter. Otherwise, we'll be fighting off lawsuits left and right. Or, you may be fighting off a jail sentence. Eddie Robinson, Nathan's son, in a group home with cerebral palsy. He lives in my jurisdiction. Read the definition of assault. It includes taking blood without consent. There's a statute of limitations. Not for a concealed crime against an incompetent victim. 3 million. We've been to Stag [music] Hill. This family is beyond the edge of poverty, struggling to put food [music] on the table while you're teeing off at the country club in Ridgewood. 5 million. Make it 10. Payable now. 10 million? And you can wait for the jury verdict, but if you get convicted, your mother will die while you're in prison. And Jerome will have died for nothing. [music] You did [music] try to save him, didn't you? >> [clears throat] >> After you stabbed him. I uh told him [music] that the company had made millions and we couldn't even afford to take our kids to the doctor. And Jerome wouldn't change his mind, so I I uh I the knife [music] in the glove box and I uh I was just so angry be- because you know, about Jerome helping the people that were cheating us and I just I just lost it. I took him to the hospital. I really thought that he would be okay. I'll do it. I'll take the deal. [music] Wasn't his son a suspect in this homicide? Apparently they've switched targets, Your Honor. It happens when a defendant's willing to hide behind his child. As to bail, it's the people's position the defendant's actions constituted a depraved indifference to life. We're requesting remand. I appreciate the seriousness of the allegations, Ms. Carmichael. Nevertheless, you did switch defendants, which leaves this court no choice but to question your aim in the first place. Bail set at 100,000. Judge, I'd like the record to reflect I'm serving notice pursuant to CPL section 250.10 of our intent to offer psychiatric evidence upon the trial of this matter. So noted. Ms. Carmichael, you'll advise the court of your decision to have the defendant examined by your own psychiatrist? Yes, Your Honor. Okay, then next case. The D.A. offered you a deal to get you to testify against your father, isn't that right? Yes. And without it they would have charged you, isn't that right? Yeah, but my father didn't let them. Now, your father rides you pretty hard about hockey, doesn't he, Keith? He wants to make sure I take it seriously. And the morning that Coach Kreider was killed, you told your father that you'd been benched, suspended from the next game. Yes. And did your father get angry? Yeah. Had you ever seen him that angry before? No. Did it scare you? Yeah. And that's when you saw Coach Kreider. Right. Now, you say during the melee you tried to grab your father. Well, I was yelling for him to stop and it was like he he couldn't hear me. So, I I grabbed him. But, you couldn't stop him, could you, Keith? No. And that's when he took your stick and he struck Mr. Kreider, isn't it? Yes. >> And after Coach Kreider had fallen to the ground, your father continued to attack him, didn't he? Didn't he? Didn't he continue to attack Mr. Kreider after he fell to the ground? >> Yes, yes, he he he was kicking him and he kept on kicking him and then there was blood coming out of Coach's mouth and I yelled at him. I said, "Dad, stop. He's bleeding." and that's that's when he stopped. That's when he finally stopped. What happened then? He walked to our car and that's when we that's when I dialed 911. Did your father say anything on the ride home? No. It was like nothing had happened. Like nothing had happened. Thank you. Doctor, is it your expert opinion that at the time of this crime my client suffered a mental defect which precluded his capacity to appreciate that his conduct was wrong? Yes, it is. And what was the mental defect he suffered? Rage. Would you explain that to the jury? It's one of the oldest theories of aggression. Rage is born of frustration. In this case, Mr. Taylor was trying to reach goals through his son he couldn't attain on his own. He saw Coach Kreider as frustrating those ambitions time and time again. The suspension of his son was simply the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. And as a result of this, what happened to him? The rage triggered a psychological dissociation. The rational part of his brain split off from the action part. And why do you say that in this case? Well, several factors. The first of which was his failure to hear his son's pleas to break off his attack. And there was also his aberrant demeanor postmortem, acting as if nothing had happened. Anything else? I also considered the vicious nature of the attack itself, which was more consistent with a primordial response than a rational one. So, all of this led you to conclude what, doctor? That at the time of the attack, Mr. Taylor could not appreciate the nature and consequences of his actions. Thank you. First thing I'd like to do today is apologize to Mrs. Kreider. I know what I say today can't change anything. I want you to know how sorry I am. So, how do you explain what happened? I can't. All I can say is that when Keith told me about missing the game, knowing that the scouts would be there, it was like something went off inside my head. You got to understand I never had the chance Keith had. Never had an old man looking after me the way I am for him. I pulled a lot of strings to try and get these scouts to come and watch my boy play. And then, Kreider he just he wouldn't listen. So, what happened that morning, Mr. Taylor? I saw him. And then it was like I was watching myself. >> [snorts] >> Like it was in slow motion or something. And And when I reached them, I just swung. It were fists were flying. I can feel them. Me hitting, you know. Jeez. I'm so sorry. Well, now what do you remember? Do you remember striking him with the hockey stick? Remember kicking him? I honestly do not. Well, what do you recall? Seeing the blood. Driving home. My wife. She asked me what had happened. I guess cuz of how I looked. What did you tell her? That I didn't know. That I didn't know what had happened. Thank you. Your witness. Is it that you've forgotten Mr. Taylor or that you want to forget? I have very little memory. Little memory of a man you beat to death. I told you it was like I was in a trance or something. But you do remember punching Mr. Kreider? I believe you testified that fists were flying. Yes. And you do remember the blood? Yes. So, when did this trance begin? I don't I don't know. Well, it has to have been somewhere between punching Mr. Kreider and driving home to your wife, isn't that right? I guess so. Was it before or after you saw the blood? Before. Before or after you gave your son your cell phone? I don't know. But you did have the presence of mind to do that, didn't you? I guess so. And to leave the scene of the crime. Funny. You never told the detectives about this trance. No. Even after they threatened to arrest your son. Objection. Goes to recent fabrication. Overruled. I didn't think he'd go to jail. I was scared. It was wrong not to speak up. Then you knew what you did was wrong. But only after. But you didn't go to the police then either, did you? You act the same way whether you know something's wrong or not? While driving on the freeway, a mother of four is cut off by another driver. She speeds up, swerves into the offender's lane, kills him. A businessman boards a plane to New York and brutally beats a flight attendant because she refuses his request for an upgrade. And here we have a 46-year-old family man, a man without any prior criminal record, who savagely attacks the coach of his 16-year-old son's hockey team. Road rage, airport rage, sports rage. How do we make sense of all of it? And the truth is, we can't. But just because we don't understand something doesn't mean we should dismiss it. Battered wife syndrome. Post-traumatic stress disorder. Each of these took years for juries to accept, during which time people who shouldn't have been convicted were. Ray Taylor didn't appreciate what he was doing that morning because at that moment he was suffering from a mental defect, a rage, which prevented him from doing so. And in our criminal justice system, we don't hold people responsible for conduct that they can't control, even if we don't understand it. >> [music]
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