So, welcome everybody. Thanks for coming out today. We appreciate it. Um, I want to start with, you know, we do value transparency and from the beginning of this, we've wanted to get the video out. It's been our intention. Uh, but we do have to respect the investigative and the ongoing legal process. So, this was the first opportunity that we felt it was appropriate to be able to release the video and talk about the incident. So that's uh why we're here today. Um I also want to say that uh the officer involved in this unfortunate incident were put in a very difficult position. Um and we value all life. It's unfortunate when anyone is injured, but the person's actions on that day left the officers with no choice but to defend themselves. The officers were faced with an unprovoked deadly physical force incident. They performed professionally under very difficult circumstances. This department fully backs the actions that they took on that day and we're proud of how they performed. Um, we're so here to talk about the incident that happened on July 12th of this year. The officers were dispatched to a residence in the 4,800 block of Bailey Avenue for domestic disturbance. U as they were responding to the incident, they were made aware that the male subject, 26-year-old Rayquel Grant, had two active warrants. The first officers on scene were Lieutenant Matthew Matthew Labuglio and officer Aiden Vangeloff. Here's a brief timeline of the incident of that evening. Um, the first officers on were on scene within 3 minutes from the time they were dispatched. They attempted to make contact with Mr. Grant by yelling into the residence for him. Very shortly thereafter, Mr. Grant exits the rear window of the ar of the residence armed with two knives and he charges at officer Vangeloff. Within 2 seconds, Officer Vangeloff is on the ground and has been stabbed. Lieutenant Leuglio, who's at the side of the residence, hears the commotion in the backyard and starts to head that way. And that's a view from his body camera. As you can see, Officer Vanalov is on the ground. He's already been stabbed. Officer Lieutenant Leuglio um pulls out his taser. You see that in his hand here and he activates it. If you look closely, you can actually see one of the lead wires from the taser um towards the subject. Um simultaneously to Lieutenant Leuglio using the taser, Officer Vangalof kicks the subject and he kicks him backwards and you see he loses his balance. Um Mr. Grant regains his feet. He does not retreat. He does not drop the knives and he assumes an aggressive stance as you can see there. Both officers then transition to their firearms and they use them to stop the threat of imminent deadly force against them. From the time that this Mr. Grant left the window of the house to the time that we used force against him was 6 seconds. Immediately upon stopping the threat, the officers initiated efforts to render first aid to Mr. Grant. An ambulance was requested. Officers retrieved medical kits. They began performing first aid on him within a minute of this incident. So this is the we these are the first aid kits that we keep in all of the cars. Every car has one. They have tourniquets. They have chest seals. They have quick clot gauze bandages. And these are all the things that were used. Well, they didn't use a they may have used a tourniquet as well, but they used most of these things on Mr. Grant. >> Could you just repeat that part about the 6 seconds >> from the time that the Mr. Grant left the window of the residence and the end of the incident when we the officers used force was 6 seconds? >> Came out of a window. Yes. Um and these are the two knives that were recovered at the scene that Mr. Grant had in his hands. >> He had two knives in his hand. >> Two knives, one in each hand. One in each hand. Yes. >> One a mic in each hand. >> Yes. One in each hand. And now unless there's questions about the incident itself, I can we'll show the Go. There is an RQ Brent is in the house. He's not supposed to be in there. >> Okay. >> He put his hands on my niece like a week ago. >> Okay. >> But she left. >> Out the window. >> He did. >> Yeah. >> Get on the back side. He likes to take off running front end. if you want to keep service. >> I don't know. >> All right. You want to watch the back? I don't know. >> 22 radio. It's 22. Um, we're on location. He's believed to be inside the the premise. We did hear a noise when we first got on location. Don't know if he ran out the back yet or not. I just put uh patrol 3 watch in the rear of the residence. I'm going to watch the front. Wait till we have more before we do anything else. >> The rear of the residence. And this is the subject I was thinking about. He likes to run and hide. >> And when you get a chance, can you confirm the uh possible F2? >> Thank you. down six in the area. shuffle. >> Go search the um go check the rear with Aiden. Like the backyard. >> Yeah, there's like a shed. There's a shed in the garage. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the complainant. >> Oh, no. This is This will be the victim. Yeah. Yeah, go back there with Aiden to make sure he didn't [ __ ] run out >> saying that he's in there with I'll have you wait out here. Okay, >> wait out here. >> I know. >> Okay. Is he threatening to do anything with these now? >> Watch the dishes. >> Okay. >> Might be trying to use the torch. >> All right. Stay on the back. I'm going to open the door and palm out. Let's >> Watch out, man. You're stickers, please. Shots fired. We have one suspect down. >> Stay down. >> We need to get >> We're going to Don't Don't go towards those knives. >> Get that medkit, John. >> Stay on coverage. You got you got the med kit. >> He's coming. He's coming. He's coming. >> Keep your hands up. >> Next officer, we need a med kit in the back. >> Are you okay, Aiden? >> He might have got my arm, but I'm good for now. >> Gloves on. Need a chest seal on there. He's got a a bullet hole in the side there. >> Talk to his chest. Give me gloss to wipe up the butt. >> I'll hand you guys stuff, but I'm not seeing. >> All right, I got I got >> Where are the chest seals? You got it. You see it? >> Somebody give me a gun. >> All right. >> Uh, no. You wiped the blood off. It might not be enough. >> Yeah. You're going to have to do a seal sweep. >> Yep. >> Get it on that. All right. Be careful. I'm not seeing where the other is. I think it's good. Let >> me check it out. Hold on. All right. I will be willing to answer questions if you want to look at it again. We can run through from the time that the the incident I know was fairly fast. We can run that quick again if you want. >> Could we ask you to first say and spell your name and your title so we have that? >> Sure. It's Chief Scott Chamberlain. C H A M B E R L I N. >> Of these police >> of the police department. Can you give us the timeline like what time the call came in, what time you arrived, and then um >> um can you Chris >> one slide there? >> Can you squirt it back the uh >> slide it back to the timeline that has it all on there? >> Someone did ask me Yeah. Can you go back one more too so I can get the um the names of the officers as well? >> And did we have a correct spelling of the suspect? >> It's on the first slide or the second slide. >> That's the other one I didn't get. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Can you just show the officer's names again? >> And what was Mr. Grant uh wanted for? It was a pro violation. I don't know exactly what that was. And there was a another warrant with several charges on it. It was a criminal contempt first. Um I think it was a stolen vehicle. I think there's another felony in there. A couple pale arars. Um but it was a felony warrant >> and this was a a domestic call. >> Yes, that's what it was. It was called in as a domestic call. Yes. Can you elaborate more on >> there have been an incident there I guess they were arguing about something um and uh one of the relatives I think of the the victim called and asked us to come out to try to mediate it. Um and it never got to that point obviously. >> Was there like a temporary restraining order? >> There is an order protection in place but it's a non-offensive order. Um it's which means basically he's not barred from being at the residence or around the the uh petitioner. He just can't uh do anything offensive around that person. >> Can you provide an update on officers uh you know their condition and the suspect as well? >> Yeah, officer uh Vangelov was treated and released from ECMC uh shortly after he was injured. Um he's um recovering and uh we'll be back to duty as soon as he's recovered. >> Where was you at? The arm. >> The shoulder and the arm. >> Shoulder and arm. So he stabbed twice. >> Yes. Two. >> That was all really, really fast. Even though you warned us it was 6 seconds long sitting here watching rain for it and I almost missed it all. How does an officer react in 6 seconds when two two knives are coming in? >> Well, it's uh their training really kicked in. and he did an amazing job in that short period of time. Lieutenant Leuglio um used his taser um and transitioned to his firearm and that was within about 4 seconds that all that happened. Uh Officer Vangalov had nowhere to go. He was backed up. If you saw the scene there, he was back his behind him was a fence. Um and so he had nowhere to go. You can see in the first slide that he had his arm hand up to say, "Hey, back off." kind of defending um trying to defend himself, but he didn't even have a chance to get his gun out in two seconds. So, he fell back and uh was able to kick the sus Mr. Grant away. Um which I think obviously helped the situation as well. They both performed amazingly. I I uh like you said, it was in that 6second time period, a lot of things happened and they all uh they both performed very very well. >> Has AD had I know they said they know he usually runs. They're obviously familiar with him. Has AD had issues with him where he's become physically violent? >> I don't think we've had anything where we've he's fought with us in particular. I can't speak to other agencies. I don't know that. >> Would you say this would be almost a suicide by cop situation then? Have you ever been before? >> Uh I didn't see it seemed like he was trying to harm our officers. I don't think he was I think that was his intent. If you look at the look on his face, um I don't think uh we can question what his intent was. I have a question as far as the info being released. Uh, this happened on Saturday, but it wasn't released to the public until the following week, Monday, late afternoon. What was that? >> Well, we released we released some information on Saturday night. Just a very brief uh statement. We wanted to get our ducks in a row as far as u making sure that we had all the facts correct before we released anything more detailed. Um, and then obviously, like I said, we have to respect the investigative process and legal process before we can do something like this where we can release video and and answer questions in particular. >> Something was happening like >> we put out just a brief statement that there was an incident and an officer an officer and a um and another person were injured. So, we did put some something out Saturday night. >> What charges is Brandon facing? >> Um, any charging questions would be should be referred to the DA's office. >> Has he been charged for that yet? Any charging questions should be referred to the DA's office. >> Is he still at ECMC? >> Yes, he's still at ECMC. >> And did both officers fire or just the one? >> Both officers fired. >> The the officer who wasn't stabbed, he was the one who deployed a taser. You >> fired shots at the same time? >> Not at the same time. He deployed his taser. He was able to see that there was not a connection with the the taser didn't make connection. So then he discharg discarded the taser and transitioned to his firearm. >> How many shots were fired? It sounded >> five total. >> Okay. Between the two officers. >> Yes. >> Any update on the condition of the suspect? >> I believe he's in serious condition. Last I had heard. >> Is he shot? I know in the side anywhere else or >> I believe he was shot in the side and also in the elbow kind of this the elbow. Yeah. >> Did the state ag's office reach out at all? Are they looking into this? I know they >> uh we reached out to them that night and they did come out um and work working with them. >> No, no findings from them yet. >> No. >> And usually they just fail, right? >> Yes. We just obviously we didn't know what the outcome was going to be. So we did get them involved and just because that's that's the process. >> Is there any kind of administrative leave going on with the officers or >> um it's very short just as a as a course of business. Um you know the officer Vangelov is injured so he'll you know he won't come back till he's he'saled up and Lieutenant Buglio is just out for a short time um and he'll be back to work very shortly. >> What does this say about the dangers of a police officer's uh daily duties? I mean something's never been met before. They show up and he runs out with two minutes. >> Yeah. I mean, I think this is something that we talk about with our officers all the time that you can't get complacent and you don't know when something like this is going to happen. It could happen in 2 seconds, right? Uh this was a kind of a routine call and the next thing officer Vangelov knows he's on the ground and he's been stabbed. So, um yes, it's a dangerous job. Um, you know, we handle 57,000 plus calls per year every year. And, uh, we're a big agency. We have a lot of officers. And, you know, these kinds of things are certainly possible. We've been lucky for a very long time that we haven't had one. Um, but, uh, you know, it can happen at any time, anywhere. >> Just one more time, officers mentioned, and you mentioned as well, that he was the Grant was known to the police. In what capacity was that prior knowledge of his interaction? >> I believe we'd been to the house before. Um I don't know how many times off the top of my head, but we've dealt with him before. >> The guys knew the crew. >> Yes. Yeah. They knew that he had run away before and it's not a new thing for him that um so they didn't think he was going to attack anybody at that point obviously. Now they just thought he was going to run away if he did anything. >> So he had never attacked officers before? I can't speak to any other agencies. I don't think he's we've ever had a use of force that we use force against our officers. No, I can't speak to other other agencies. I don't know. >> SWAT team there at one point. >> I believe we did have a a call out there because he for a domestic situation again where he would not come out. Um we did end up getting him out. This is probably about a year ago if I remember right. >> Does he don't use any narcotics or anything like that in the system? >> Not that I'm aware of. I did not look at that. So I don't I could get you that information but I don't have it right now. >> How about in terms of a mental health call along those lines? >> I don't have any information regarding that. >> Um you know what I'm seeing here I I know when you're doing those um simulations in the police training like I I think there is one just like that where someone just charges at you. I mean the these are things that they they try to practice for. >> Yes. Um, I mean, is there I mean, there doesn't seem to be a chance to even deescalate the situation, right? >> No, I mean, as you saw, we'll run through it again. I mean, he was out the window and on the officer within 2 seconds that he was I think he said the officer maybe got one word out before he he was stabbed. Um, there was really no chance for that. >> I'm sorry, stabbed in the arm, right? >> Shoulder and arm. Yes. And Mr. Grant left us no choice in the situation. and we we weren't able to deescalate. Do >> you do you have any sense of why this particular incident escalated on on Grant's behalf? I mean, again, prior experience with him and all of a sudden this one he's charging at officers with >> No, I have no no idea. >> Did the taser have no effect on him or >> the taser did not make a connection? So, that can mean one of two things. It can mean that both probes have to hit the person for there to be a connection. So whether they one of them got caught in a panel leg and didn't didn't get enough we didn't just get enough contact or one of the probes missed, it's hard to hard to know why. You can't really see it, but all we know is that um didn't complete the circuit basically. When you look at that picture, chief, knowing that's one of your officers, this guy coming at him with two knives, how does that make you feel? >> Um, I mean, obviously it's very scary. You know, these are these are our brothers and sisters and we we care about them deeply. So, um, anytime anybody's in danger, this is a very dangerous job and we deal with a lot of things. But uh to see that uh one of our officers was put in this position um is is frightening. You know, a lot of officers will say that domestic calls are potentially the most dangerous for police. Do you agree with that or is this an illustration of how dangerous they can be? >> Yeah, I mean I sure it's an illustration that they can be dangerous. I think any call can be dangerous. It's really the, you know, it's, you don't know who you're dealing with ever really and what's what's in their heart and what's in their mind. So, um, that's why they officers just need to be on on on guard and and ready at all times. >> Is this something that you think you're officers will learn from? how you show this and >> yeah I mean any any situation that we have we try to use as a learning experience and and I think that's obviously the you want to want excellence you want to do things well you have to learn from things and uh they performed amazingly in this situation in a very difficult situation and other officers can use this as an example of how to perform uh under stressful situations um and yes you know obviously we'll we will use this and try to uh um make sure that the officers all can see how just is a very good reminder of how dangerous our job is. >> Does this illustrate why it's a good thing for police to wear body cams? I mean I mean this really shows the public what these officers were dealing with. >> Mhm. >> How do you feel about body cams in general and especially in this case? Yeah, I think body cameras are a good thing. It in this case, it showed the professionalism and um of our officers and the good job that they did. And I think that that's a good thing and it tells the full story in this case. Not doesn't always, but in this case, we got the the full story here. Uh and that's important. >> How do you say Officer A's last name? >> Vangelov. >> Vangelov. Okay. Nice. >> Can you tell us about those officers? How many years? You know what are they currently? >> I believe uh Lieutenant Leuglio has 14 years and officer Vangalov has four years on the job. >> And are they do they work as partners or >> Lieutenant Luga would be the supervisor of the shift um or one of the supervisors on the shift. He was supervising that call. And we generally don't work with partners. So the officers work in single man cars usually. Sometimes we double them up, but um he was just at the call because he the lieutenant was at the call because he was close by and he wanted to supervise. Um >> is that kind of standard for like a domestic, you know, a situation like this? >> And we always send at least two officers to a domestic cuz you always want to make sure you have enough people there to handle situations like this. >> I know the the house address was never initially released and you don't have to necessarily release that, but what street did this happen on? >> On Bailey Avenue. >> On on Bailey. >> Yep. If it's helpful, chief, I can go through the slides if they need to get notes or anything off. >> Anybody have any further questions? And we're good. >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it.