They had the hustle, the confidence, and the script until someone called their bluff. Here are five cases when scammers realize they've been caught. Number five, she thought she'd get a free stay, but ended up with a mug shot. Police arrive at a hotel after staff report a woman trying to check in using someone else's ID and credit card. Staff quickly recognized that the ID belongs to someone else and call the authorities. call us about a female. She is huh in the jacket. Okay. Are you going to let her check in or what's No, she has a completely different someone else's ID. A black person's ID and she's trying to use it credit card. Hey, you like that? You just want her to leave the property. Let me give you the stuff that she can't eat. She She said at a hotel. She got it from the safe. She's home. She needs help. All kinds of stuff. She got it from a hotel. A hotel. She was in another hotel and she thought the safe was in there and she thought she could trust me if I used to. You want to you want her trespass too or you just want to discover? Yeah, her stuff is there and she's young. I don't want to you know that's everything she had. That's everything she had. Can you grab it for me? She brought in all of this stuff. All right. Thank you. Okay. All right. Hello. Hello. Mind coming outside with me, please? Mind coming outside with me? This is your stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. You mind coming outside with me, please? Yeah. When officers arrive, they find the woman with a large bag full of belongings. She appears overwhelmed and emotional, saying she had a rough day and doesn't know who to trust. What's going on today? Too much. Yeah. How did you get here? Did you catch a bus? A Uber. Just drive uh Uber. Uber. Where are you from? St. Pete, Florida. Okay. All right. So, what's going on today? My life. Why you say that? Being honest with you. Why you say that? Why? You didn't You're not in trouble. Why are you scared? What do we do? Are you afraid of somebody else? All right. Is somebody after you? everybody. Okay. What's your name, ma'am? What's your name? Lauren. Lauren? Okay. Where's your family? I don't know. You don't know? So, what was you trying to do today? You trying to run out of room? Where did you find these cars from? Where'd you get them from? In the locker room. So, I put my purse in the locker room and day. All right, just sit down and have a seat. All right, where where was the locker room at? PJ National Resort Spa where I work. I thought it was safe. Oh, you worked there? That was today. Yeah. And you find these in the locker room and Well, it was in my locker. Okay. But you obviously know it's in my locker. like I locked it and then I put my purse in the locker and then when I came back it was replaced with a different purse and a different set of keys and I thought oh I don't know what just happened. I I've had a lot too much about and so I haven't been thinking clearly and everybody's so what made you use this though to to rent out a room? That's all I'm asking you. Officers calmly question her about how she came to possess the cards and why she tried to use them. Because I don't know what else to do. Do you have money? Terrified. Uh yeah, I have money in my bank account, but I don't have my stuff. So why are you trying to use somebody else's? This belong to because my best friend's name is Sheree. So I Is she your best friend? No. Okay. Therefore, you had no reason to be in property of this. You're right. I'm sorry. What? So, your name is Lauren, right? I'm sorry. Mhm. Hey, it's Fra. Hold on one second. That's That don't even belong to her. That's not her. Look at it. Yeah, I know. Just to see. Hold on. Let's figure out phone number. Then we get her 14 first. Then we'll get statements from them. Then we'll contact the victim and they want a prize. Then she's 10. You know what I'm saying? Lauren, stop crying. Spell your name. Spell your name, Lauren. L A U R E N. L A U R E N. So, let me get it straight. You caught a Uber here. You was going to check out a room. You use somebody named Sheree that you found in your locker at Okay. You say you're afraid of someone. Who are you afraid of? Everybody. Every man that I've ever known in my life. Okay. What you had experience? You had a I have had abusive relationship. Like I told you, I had the worst day of my life today. Today. What happened today? Worst day of my life because I can't even trust my own father. That's why. What did he What happened? Do you mind getting that while I run it real quick? Yeah. 5265 date of birth. Police maintain a professional tone and try to piece together the timeline. They confirmed that the credit card belongs to someone else and that she attempted to use it at multiple hotels. What do you mean? Like somebody called the police on me for us to be here right now? Yeah. Yeah. You're trying to check in a hotel with Well, I not your stuff. Yeah. Well, I'm just scared cuz I feel like I can't trust anybody. I don't I don't know. Yeah, but Well, they're just doing their job. It's not going to take it personal. They called us because they obviously This obviously is not you. Someone else's uh credit card. That's it. Now, you said you do not know who this person is. No. And you said you were you had you had your stuff in your locker at Yeah. And I know I did something wrong and I apologize for that. I just didn't know I was doing anything wrong cuz I've had a really long day. I know, but you got to explain on that. How has it been so long and bad? Well, because I was staying at the hotel and then I Which hotel? This one? No. PJ. Okay. And then I realized it's not. How is it not? It's just creepy. How is it creepy? I think that there's cameras everywhere. There's cameras everywhere. No, in the wrong places. Like where? Like in the hotel room? Which hotel room? Yeah. Doesn't matter, does it? Well, normally there's not cameras in hotel rooms. That's why I'm trying to figure out which hotel room. Well, I think there's cameras in all of the hotel rooms. Okay. But that's not true, though. This one doesn't matter. I stayed in 20. You want me to tell you what rooms I stayed in? But anyway, um, what happened with with your father today? I don't know. I don't want to talk to him. Why? Why? Yeah. I mean, if you don't want to talk about it, you don't have to talk about it. cuz I don't trust my parents right now. That's why. Okay. Did they do something to hurt you? Yes, they did. They don't believe me. She breaks down during questioning and opens up about past trauma, a breakup, and distrust toward her family. Okay. Well, did they not physically hurt you? Not physically. No. Okay. Nobody wants to believe me. So, I'm um I'm run her on the computer and see if I get emergency contact or phone number for her. Okay. The reason why I didn't want to run both on the air cuz it's technically not a tie to the case unless but she need to know if she lost that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Does this let me see American Express and then it's a clear one. two Americans. I think so. Yeah. She said she thinks she Now these lockers, that's only for employees that they would use while you're working, right? No, honey. It was at the spa. Oh, you're at the spa. Okay. In a spa, correct? And you you didn't see them. You put your stuff in a locker. Working today, right? I just No, I didn't know that. That's why I was So, how did you get there? So, why were you there? I was staying there for two nights. I stayed there. So, you were staying there after work and just going to work? No, I was just No, I told my boss I needed some time off because I just went through a disgusting breakup and I'm going through a really hard time. So, I left my apartment which is which is festively home and I went to Excuse my language. I went to DJ National. How long you were there for? Two nights. Two nights. Okay. Okay. And then you went to the spa. You put your bag with your belongings in that locker. And then and then when I came back, it was a different locker. But I told them that. Did you lock it or was it okay? And did you report it to the spa people? Yes, they know. I I mean I I told Peggy. They also discover that the ID and cards were not reported stolen, but were missing from the locker area the woman mentioned. No, she works. So PJ National is like a hotel. I know what where PJ knows. I don't know who works. Yeah, I Well, yeah. It's It's so big. You don't know. Yeah, exactly. It's It's huge. There's a bunch of different spots. Trying to get information from me, but like I don't know what Did you say Did you go to the spa desk and say, "Hey, I was here for a spa." No, because everything was happening so fast and I lost my ring and I was freaking out. So, and then they told me I couldn't even eat there. They said cuz I I ordered food. Okay, slow down. Slow down. So you noticed everything was gone. Yeah. Gone by 62. [Music] 26 cents. Thank you. So now you noticed the stuff was gone. Your stuff was missing, which was your purse with what in it? My wallet. Okay. And then personal. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Just normal purse stuff. Yeah. You noticed that and then you noticed someone else's bag was in there. Well, where's that bag? This bag. This is the bag you found. And that was today. What are you grabbing? Everything that was in the bag. Everything that was in this bag. Here we go. No. No, no, no. You know, I I just want to know details. That's a I'm not saying I have to take it right now. Yeah. My stuff was missing and it was replaced with that stuff. So, maybe they put it somewhere safe is what I'm suggesting. Yeah. It's just odd that this would be very odd. Yeah. You know, life. But this all happened today. You said like sign something or I guess not. But this all happened today. You said yes sir. Okay. Yes sir. So, I don't have my ID anymore, but at least I have. Despite her emotional state and claims of misunderstanding, the facts are clear. She knowingly tried to use someone else's credit card, and once confronted, her explanations didn't hold up. Yeah. And actually, normally a very responsible person. That's all right. So, you noticed I guess I look pretty irresponsible right now, don't I? I didn't say that. I feel like that. I feel like I look So you noticed everything was gone of your belongings and then you noticed my purse was gone. Yeah. All your stuff that was in your purse. Okay. With my wallet. Yeah. Yeah. And then this stuff was in there. Yep. Not my purse. Not Not this here. What? That's not mine. All this stuff is not yours. No. Okay. So, this whole bag was in the locker where you thought your stuff was. Okay. Like I said, could it be that you went to the wrong locker? No. Maybe. Did you check surrounding lockers? No, didn't. How long ago did this happen? Like estimated time. I wish I could tell you. Maybe a couple hours ago. What would you say? Like 10 8 1 Maybe like 1. Okay. 12:30 maybe. 12:30. All right. Um, then you just grab this stuff and then just left. You didn't go to the front or anything? So, the ladies I thought were helping me because which which ladies though? Spa employees. Spa employees. Okay. I thought were helping. Yes. Spa employees were helping because the thing about the spa is it is like a huge giant maze, you know? So, it's like really hard to find where you're going and it was like Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Maybe you went to the wrong locker. Yeah, that's quite possible. That's very possible. Converse. Converse. Okay. All right. I just don't It's all right. We just want to We want to figure out why you are Why am I telling you? She explains that she thought the bag might belong to someone she knew, but eventually admits she doesn't know the person at all. All right. So, don't be upset, miss. So, after you left, you grabbed this person's stuff, left, did this, and you said you talked to the spa ladies? Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. I told people that work there that I had like my purse was I told them that. I told them that and they said they would find it. Like, what do you want me to do? Like, I just don't have it. Like, I'm sorry. I don't. So why did you tell them that this is not your stuff? Do you want me to call them? Yes, I did. I told them I don't know where my purse is and I have this bag now and I thought What did they say? They don't know what to say. I don't think they would call them like call the spa. Yeah, they have my stuff. Yeah, is that what you want? Yeah, that would resolve everything actually. And then we could figure out whose stuff this is. And I still don't know why you would leave with this stuff. Okay, we're trying to help you right now. I know, but nobody really wants to help because if you wanted to help you would just put me in a room, but instead I'm sitting here like a psychopath. Why would Why would you try to use this person's stuff though for a room? [Music] I thought they were my friend. Is this your friend or not? I'm You said you don't know this person. So, how would it be your friend? How would it be your friend? If you did not know who this person is, why would this they be your friend? Hi. Um Um Um Lauren, I was staying here at the door and Can you put me in touch with the She's read her rights and detained. Officers try to keep her calm, explaining what's happening step by step. She's on the phone with the spa right now. The spa just called them. You have no way to uh to come over here, huh? No, I'm just asking in case we have to uh 4,000 RCA Boulevard at a Marriott. You have everything. Yeah, it's an in. You got 44. Yeah. On me. Now call him back. Call him back. Whoever you talking to, he got something to read. Okay. Please listen up. Pay attention. All right, miss. I'm required to warn you before you make any statement that you have the following constitutional rights. You have the right to remain silent and not answer any questions. Do you understand that? Not the juvenile. Any statement you make must be freely and voluntarily given. You have the right to the presence and representation of a lawyer of your choice before you make any statements and during any questioning. If you cannot afford a lawyer, you are entitled to the presence and representation of a courtappointed lawyer be before you make any statement. And the woman continues to express confusion, saying she didn't fully understand what she was doing and didn't intend to commit a crime. If at any time during the interview you do not wish to answer any questions, you are privileged to remain silent. I can make no threats or promises to induce you to make a statement. This must be of your own free will. Any statement can be and will be used against you in the court of law. Do you understand each of these rights I have explained to you? [Applause] [Music] What are you doing? You're arresting me, right? You didn't put me in handcuffs. Yeah. I mean, you're just detained. You're not free to go. You want to be put in handcuffs? I wasn't going to put I don't want to be put. Okay. So, I can sit down. Yeah. Just sit hang tight. Okay. Thank you. All right. Never mind. I'm sorry. Can you stand up for me? Yeah. Miss Key, turn around. Yeah. Are you coming or you don't need to see? I'm going to pull your shirt up. All right. Nah, she going to just come get her stuff and then I'm going just to talk anymore about where you got it from. Her reaction shifts from panic to resignation as the reality of the situation sets in. sit down. Yeah, if you want to sit down, I still got the cards over here. All of this came in a bag, right? That's what she said. So, what actually belong to you, man? Everything on that cart. Everything on that cart. Yep. Everything else is not for me. Everything else is not yours. Right. Did you take any money or anything from out of here? I just looked at it, but I didn't take it. I'm going to get a female over there just to pat you down. Okay. Okay. No worries. No records. Now, where do you live? I used to Where did I used to live? You said your apartment. Yeah, I have an apartment. I don't live there anymore. Did you just move out? Well, I'm homeless right now. Okay. Mhm. Is that okay? No. Yeah, it's okay. I mean, I was Is it okay to be homeless? Yeah, but do you have like family around here or anyone? No, I don't. I thought I did, but I definitely don't. Okay. You know, when like you think you know somebody? I guess I had a really piece of friend, too. Yeah. You guys just broke up, you said? Yeah, we just broke up a couple days ago. He drove my family so crazy that they called the cops on me. They call the cops on you. Somebody call the cops on me. Up to this point, she paints herself as the unwilling victim, insisting everyone else is to blame for the situation she's in. Somebody doesn't like me and somebody called the cop. I don't know what I did except for accidentally take somebody else's stuff. But I told you it was an accident because it's not bad that you accidentally took someone's stuff. It's bad when you try to use their credit cards at hotels, multiple places. So, I just got confused. Multiple things said I didn't try. You tried at PGA and you That's what he said. No, no, I only tried here. He said you tried to do it there. So, Huh? That's what he said. He's lying. Well, either way, you still try to do it here. So, Well, I didn't try to do it there. I didn't use the card or anything until I got here. Still, you still tried to use it here, which isn't your property or your money. And you should have you should have noticed that that's not yours, and returned it to the salon people, whatever spot people, and said, "Hey, this wasn't mine. I'm missing my purse. Please return this to the owner. If you let me know where my stuff is, if you let me know where my stuff is, I would be greatly appreciated." And then left it at that. It's a very confusing scenario. It's It's not that confusing. If it's your stuff, then you use your stuff. If it's not your stuff, then you don't use it unless you have permission. But you said you don't know this. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. She was ultimately charged with scheme to defraud and theft. She eventually pleads guilty to avoid jail time and is sentenced to probation. Number four, woman's credit card con fails miserably. Officers respond to a call at a Chuck-E-Cheese where a woman is accused of using someone else's credit card to make a purchase. Here's what happens when the officers arrive. [Music] Go ahead and step out. Why am I stepping out? Step out, please. What? You're under arrest. For what? For what? Help me. Okay. Okay. Help me. Okay. Let me let me get her. on the ground. She been with me the whole time. I got it. I got I got it. I got it. Get on the ground. What am I going to jail for? Why are we under? Stop resisting. Get in the camera. What am I going to jail for? Can you tell me what I'm going to jail for, please? You're stealing. Stealing what? What did I steal? Suck and cheese. I never stole anything. You're on camera. It's 2024. I'm not stealing anything. I never stole anything. You're on camera. What did I steal? Despite the solid proof that the officers have against her, she continues to deny everything, claiming she's done nothing wrong. piece of car and you're going for resistance now. So, I have to wait to go to court to get out. How old are you? I'm going to jail for stealing. How old are you? You are too. I just got to them. I don't know what the going on. Do you know them? No, I there. And I know them through somebody else. Their car overheated. I'm the one that put the water pump on it. So, I came to them. Okay. Let me get your driver. My tools are in the trunk. I don't know where going. Get out of here, bro. It's 2024. You're on camera. I just need to know what right there. How do you know that? [Applause] Because you're under arrest. I can search your person. We're done playing by your rules. Okay. When you want to cooperate, I'll cooperate with you. [Applause] The situation becomes more complicated when it's revealed that a child is with her. Officers prioritize the child's safety, trying to figure out where he should go. Talk to someone. Yeah. In just a second, we're figuring out how to get this kid somewhere safe. Can you get my phone so I can call his grandma? Okay. Who are you to him? I'm his mom. That's not what he said. I'm his stepmom. Can I stay? Okay. So, his mom playing Chicago. You're not mom. Can I see a phone? Are you even wife to him? Is he your girlfriend? Can I see a phone? Your stepgirlfriend? Can I see a phone? No, I'm getting his phone first cuz he's the father. Again, we're not playing by your rules anymore. Okay. Can you guys tell me my charges? Yeah. I can death to mislaid property. And then you're going to also get charged with except practice because you're in the car. Nobody's using the card over there. You're on camera. I never use the card. Exactly. real quick. Do you know where his phone's at? Right on. All right. Which phone is it? This one. I'm going to have to open it. Uh uh. Could you put it put it on my knee? Put it on my my knee. All right. Parts on. Not now. Uh, go to uh Okay. Go to code. No. Call and go to um go up. Any contacts or just this? Go. No. Go up. Go up. Go up. Go up. Keep going. Keep going. Contact. Contact. Okay. Go back. I got it. You got it. Where am I going to? Yeah. Right here. I got As the arrest is being processed, the father asks to make a phone call to arrange for someone to pick up the child. No, I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got I got it. Okay. Big L. Yeah. I've been working on it. It's not for anything. Hey What's going on? No, man. We got pulled over by the police, man. I got I got my son, you know. I got my son with you. I fa I fa to um have them to come. He going to come hold drop him off to you and then um I'mma call you, man. I'm good, though. I'mma call you. He can't come get him. Hey, you can't Could you Could you come get him? Look, I'm about here off the street. I I got my room. I got my room, too. But you could just hold him. I need you to hold him, man. It's urgent. I'm right here at Sherman. I'm right here at Sherman. Sherman liquor. Right here. Across the street. Right here by the um this say plaza. Yeah. I need you to come right now. Right now. Not guilty. You know what I mean? So, I'm going to put you in the back of the car. Huh? What happened to I'll let them explain it to you. Okay. Who's them? Suffice it. Suffice it to say, I don't even know them. Wrong time. Wrong place. I know. His name is Trey. That's it. So, I'm going to have you back. Hi, buddy. Could you give me give me a copy, too? Put it in my pocket for me if you can with us. I ain't going to lie. I thought you was the I thought you was the kid, man. I got to give it to myself. I I'll be honest. I thought you was. I ain't gonna lie. I be in my room. It turned out five minutes gonna turn out God got control of everything. So, you know, officers explain the process. Since the man's charges are nonviolent and assuming he has no record or outstanding warrants, he'll likely be booked and released with a court date. Like I said, I mean, you could have turned that a lot worse. Yep. Getting out and fighting us, too, because then we start using two of us tasers. Yeah. No, I safety out the table. He was ready. I don't like doing that cuz it's just a lot of paperwork. I understand. It makes sense. There's a resistance or a restraint or however you want to put it. And you got to think how tense it is for us too. We don't know what's in that car. I don't know if the driver's got a gun or you got a gun. I mean, I don't know what's going He obviously had a knife on him. So, yeah. He meant and we have no idea. I knew you weren't with him earlier, so I have no idea who that guy is. So, that's what kind of just made me want to get you guys separated first and then we'll figure out who's in the car and all the rest. Okay. So, here's that with the money. Okay. We're going to mom out of here with the ticket cuz he's driving unsuspended. We're going to give him his tools and stuff back. So, you don't have to worry about So, then then how long my stuff going to be in the arm? That's up to you. I mean, honestly, with these charges and the no cash bail, I honestly think you guys are going to go out there and walk right back out. All right. I mean, it's Do you have any record right now or you have I don't got no I don't got no probation, no parole, no nothing. No bond. You don't have any risk of flight. They're probably just going to say, "Okay, here's your court date and see you later." We're at the station or maybe No, you have to cuz technically the court you're going to is county or city. So, you have to go through the county process. So, today Saturday? Yeah. So, I don't know. I'm going to be in like you said, there's no cash bail anymore. So, if your charges meet the criteria and you don't have any risk factors on preventing you from going to court, they'll honestly just probably give you a court date and see will too. Yeah. Or would I be able to get It all depends on your past criminal history. If you got ongoing cases, you're on probation, parole, you have a bunch of misc court dates, that type of stuff. No, I don't got none of that. Yeah. So, it'll prove you no risk. And again, this isn't a bodily harm crime, so I don't see him keeping you. They do. I'll be shot. What about her? Same thing. I mean, resist thing. They don't really care about. So, what we just got to go on that guy name stuff. We got to go fingerprint the booking. Get the mug shot. Fingerprints. They'll get you out. All right. You can crack his window, man. You want your window down, right? Meanwhile, the woman makes another call from the squad car trying to explain everything to her mother. Yes. You know where the car is being called? Uh, Billy Joe's. Yeah, we'll get you a card. Can you strap me in the front? No. I can hold the phone for you if you need to talk about speaker phone. My phone don't work. So, you guys don't know when we will go to court. No, that's up to the camera. And how long will we be? You don't know. You'll be able to make a call out at the jail. Okay. Yes, Mom. I'm in a police car. I'm running jail. But um what are my charges? Theft of mislaid property and deceptive practice or resisting arrest. Charges resisting uh what else? Theft of mislaid property. Theft of mislaid property. What else? And then deceptive practice. Deceptive practice. And resisting arrest. Oh, no. And I don't get a B, right? No. Would you like me to talk to her? I'll tell you tell her what everything's going to happen. How old are you? This is so stressful. Um, they saying that they send me on camera taking a wallet from Chuck-E-Cheese and that's basically what I'm being charged for. But they saying I'm being charged also for swiping a card, but I never swiped the card. But they said I knew what was going on. Though calls are typically made after booking, the officers show leniency, allowing them to contact loved ones before being transported to jail. Boom! Man, what happened? What happened? I think a AC. Hold on. Yeah, I think I can a me. Um, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm doing my best. So, I'm I'mma call you when I go to jail. Okay. Can I make one more call? Talking right now. All right. He's going to talk to you real quick. Okay. I got questions. deceptive. Deceptive practice. Okay, that means you're knowingly using a card that does not belong to you to make a purchase for yourself. What that is a misdemeanor? No, it doesn't have to be misdemean. Meanwhile, officers remind the man that even though this isn't a violent offense, the presence of the child and her resistance make it more serious. What What's the be honest with you? Be honest. And I I wish I could, but honestly, with the whole safety act, I mean, you've heard of that, right? What is the safety act is what took away cash bail. So, you can't go to jail and get a, you know, $10,000 bond and bond out for a grand park. In this case, it would probably been 160 bucks and you would have bonded out. Okay, that that's gone away. Now it's you go, they're going to get they're going to basically count you as either a risk or not a risk to show up in court. You're not a risk and you shouldn't be clogging up the jail. They're going to give you a court date and tell you to show up to court. All right? And if you don't show up to court, you have a warrant. All right? So, from what I've seen, it's only been in effect this year. So, what I've seen in cases like this that are just money crimes, all right, they're probably going to give you a court date and send you out the door. All right? But again, I'm I'm not there and I don't know exactly how it works with looking at your record and everything. It all depends on that. So, but you said you haven't missed much court, right? I don't got I ain't been in jail. I ain't I've been on parole since 2017. I ain't no probation. I ain't nothing I don't got no case outside of traffic and I got a Bloomington case out traffic. Okay, that's it. So, I talked to you've had your son since yesterday. Yeah. All right. So, what's she going to do? Well, she's not happy. Yeah, I know she's talking about that. Yeah, but I mean, you need to make things right. And honestly, I mean, out of this whole deal, looking at yourself, I would probably be most upset at that. Putting your kid through this. All right. One, he's not in a booster seat. Okay. We're not going to hit Tom with the unrestrained child cuz that's your responsibility. All right. When your kids's in a car, you get in a bad accident, which we see all the time around here, especially intersections like this. I mean, your kid gets hit, not he doesn't have much chance, all right, out of a booster seat at his side. I'd be most upset at myself with just the kid. You took it to Chuck-e-Cheese. You're trying to do something good and then it all got changed. All right. Don't let that stuff. The officer stresses the importance of thinking about the child, especially since he was not properly restrained in the car. Now, it's going to really hurt your relationship with the mother, your child. And I hope you can figure it out. But yeah, just be smarter about that when you got your kid. When you're doing it by yourself, that's one thing. But I mean now he's got to see all this and depending how old he is and you never know. He might remember this forever. So just think about that, man. So we don't want to be put in that situation, you know. I don't want to be wrestling a girl in front of a kid cuz that makes us look like bad guys. Now he thinks the police just fight everybody. So and it takes all of us to make a generational change. You know, I want your kid to be able to come to us if they need help and that now that you put a damper on that now. He thinks we're going to fight you every time we come into contact with it. Right? You know, we're not like that. You know, if she would have stepped out, we would have simply put her in cuffs, put you in cuffs, been done with us. We probably would have gave you a notice to appear and be done with it. But now, she tacked on the resisting and everything else. There's not much chance. This is one of those things that dug yourself a bigger hole. All right, I'll be right back with you. Anything else you'd like to see? and you didn't take it to make a good cut because you got you don't need somebody else's and you're not and you're not going to say who you why would I want to be seen on camera somebody else car I mean I don't If I was to be if I was to be doing something trying to be trying to steal something and doing I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't go a big just to clarify. So right now you're going through jail. Don't worry. I got you guys for theft over here. Watch over. The woman was ultimately charged with theft of mislaid property, deceptive practice, and resisting arrest. Number three, busted trying to cash a $34,000 fraudulent check. Police in Illinois respond to a call from a bank reporting two men trying to cash fraudulent checks. Officers quickly find the suspects outside the bank. That pick that up. You just had it on. Let me see your IDs. I ain't got much. She got my ID at the bank. Okay, let me see your ID. My My thing is this, dude. I'm going to tell you ID. Sir, I'm going to tell you the truth, dude. in the car, gave us a check. He gave me the thing. He just drove off. Where's he at? I don't know. But I wasn't going to do this, sir. I wasn't. He took off somewhere. I don't know where he went to. He gave it to I didn't want to do that. Can you stop for a second? I told him to come. I didn't care. It's one of those where they uh they were dropped off. Probably a Hyundai Genesis SUV in the area. I need to get my stuff. They walked over here and he took off. Stop calm down. This cat man got me in trouble cuz I I got to go to work, man. He done got me in trouble. You live around here? No, I live in Peoria. He the one that said, "Huh? Did the guy drive you down here?" Tell me said we was going to make some money and next thing I know, next thing I know, they got your ID at the bank. Yeah, but I wasn't trying to get I thought it was I thought it was for real, sir. I got to go to work. I'm not down here to start trouble. Which way the guy take off? I don't know. Oh, he got my bag and stuff in his car. I need to get my bag. What kind of car is he in? The car. The car. Yeah, he won't come back. What kind of car is kind of car? The same little car. Little small car. Little small car. Like that white car right there. Like that little white car. But my bag is My bag is in it. Just like that. Yeah. He the one that gave it to him. We were We didn't even want to do this. Calm down. He talking about going in there and cash. He said nothing. I got no reason to lie. The officer doing a job. The officers read him his rights and he continues to say he wasn't aware of any fraud. All right, I'm going to read you this real quick because I know what's going on. I did. Sir, stop. Let him go. Stop. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have one present while you're being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one be appointed to represent you before any questioning. If you wish, you can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. Do you understand what I've read to you? Yes. Okay. Do you understand what I read? Well, you're with them. Let me listen. Listen, listen. Before you go into telling me a big story, I'm going to tell you what happened, okay? And you tell me if this is right or not. All right. No problem. Guy finds you in Poria. Yeah. Says, "Listen, listen." And he says, "I got these checks. I'm going to drive you down to Bloomington. You cash the checks and then you get to keep a portion of the money." Is that Is that what he said? He He said Is that what he said? No. No. I'm going to tell you what to I just tell you the truth, sir. You can, but I already know what's going on. I was at the store. He asked me that I want to make that I want to work. I'm not out here to start. What did he ask you if you wanted to work? He asked me something about we we going to make some money. He told me and him that we're going to make some money. and he said something about a job or something. That's how he said it. I was on my way to work, sir. I'm on my way to work now. So, you agreed to get in his car and drive all I didn't know that's what they was doing. He said me stop. As officers question him, he insists he had no idea the check was fake. He said he was told they were going to do subcontracting work and thought it was all legitimate. Did he agree to pay you? Yeah. You agreed to go cash a check and get paid? I didn't know I was getting a check, son. I had no clue that I was there. So when he gave you the check and said, "Go into this bank and cash it." You didn't think anything of it? No. He said he the way he put it, he he came at us. He came at us. He said, "Well, uh, make So he put he pulled us out in the car, talking about y'all, go make some money." He had all these checks. So what did Okay, so he had all the checks and then what did he say? How were you going to make money? What did he say? He said something about that we was going to do some subcontracting or something. Some kind of subcontracting. Okay. But when you got here to the bank and he handed you the choice, I kind of look stupid. What did he tell you to do? Told me to go in. He going to turn the phone on and all this. I thought it was something for him. I didn't know, sir. I don't get out like that. I don't get into trouble. That's what I'm taking. So, when he told you to go in and cash the check, what did you what were you going to get in return for that? I didn't want it. I I just told him. I don't know. I I didn't know what they was doing. Didn't I not say that? We didn't know what was going on. He came at us. I was at the school, sir. That's what I'm telling you. I don't steal. I don't I'm an honest working man. I don't have time for this. I didn't know this was going to happen. Five. I got one by name when you're ready. I I didn't know none of this was going to happen, sir. I'm on my way to work. I got to I'm going to be late. I got I'm on my way. He at the store. I didn't know. Just calm down. I got to get my bag. My badies in this car. I got to have my bag for work. My diabetic stuff has been there. I'm going be passed out, man. Diabetic stuff. You take off. I didn't know this was going on. So, what's your first name? My name Colia. Columbia, here's the problem. You say you're on your way to work, but you got into a car with a guy and agreed to drive all the way to Bloomington. But I had no clue that he was I thought we was going to work. I thought that's what we was doing was going to work. The way he put it, we was going to work. That's what he told us. What were you going to do here? I he just said something about You need to relax a little bit because this yelling and screaming and spitting everywhere is going to cause problems. Sorry. He said something about we going to do some subcontract. Some kind of subcontracting. That's what police try to calm him down as he starts to panic and raise his voice. And I said subcontracting. Then we get up here. He come going to I got an ID number if he knew. I mean I'm on my way to work. You're not on your way to work cuz you Where do you work in Poria? I I work at uh Caterpillar. I work at Caterpill. Okay. So you're not on your way to work. Listen to me, son. You drove all the way to Bloomington to do some stuff. Listen to me, sir. When he picked me up, I was at the store. He said he'll hire me back. He said he would have me back by the end. By when? By he said by 12. I said I got to be back by 12. He got my But listen to me. I never I spend all over. I'm still nervous. My diabetic. That's fine. But I don't want you spitting on me. I'm a diabetic. I just wanted you to know I wasn't on no funny business, sir. I'm here to So when you pulled up to the when you guys pulled over here because they never drop you off the bank, what did he tell you to do? He told us to go in. He gave us this check. Told us to go in there. He said, "Go in, run in, cash this, and come back out and give it to me." I said, "Sir, I don't know what." He said, "This was my job." Then he took off my left my bag and my stuff in there cuz I got to He said, "I'll have you back by 12." I'm not lying, sir. Stop. [Applause] This is my workbench right here. Got my thing on there. My partners want to smoke in the bank, so I don't know what's going on. I'm sorry, sir. I don't I'm not trying to cause no trouble. I understand you're upset. I I didn't know this was going on. I'm trying to do my I got to go to work, man. I'm up here way up here in Bloomington on some garbage. Yeah. Come on, man. I wasn't expecting this. I swear to you, I wasn't. He trying to call him, but he don't took off. But I mean, here's somebody asked me to go cash a check or something. I didn't know. Right. I thought it was I thought he was was on something real. He come with these check. I didn't know. While he didn't create the scam, he became part of it by going through with the transaction. Meanwhile, the driver, who they believe is the one who set it all up, disappears with the suspect's belongings. I'm not I'm not going to go cash somebody. I mean, I'll cash my wife's check. I didn't know. I thought I had something to do with What's that? He done took off, left my stuff in. I done left my stuff in this cash car. Everything. How do you know this guy? He know him. That's his nephew. I He picked us up at the store. Gotcha. I was at Walmart getting my stuff for work. Now I can't even can't take my stuff home. Okay. Cuz I'm I got tied up in this. He called me call like, "Um, where you at?" I think he he was all posted up at city. I guess [Applause] [Music] he I thought he had a job. I didn't know. If you got a job at Caterpillar, what do you want to need another job for? No, I He said we can make cash under the table, right? I didn't know. Caterpillar pays good, man. Yes, but I worked through a a funded company. I work through a funded company. I I wasn't trying to come up here to do this. I don't rob banks. I don't get into that. I don't get into saying you robbed a bank or anything. No, I don't want these people to think, "Oh, he went under trying to get a bunch of money." I've been saying what this cat told me. I don't get into that, man. I'm not even I'm right here talking at the man. I don't got time for this. If I have knew this was going to happen, I'd have never got in the car. I swear to you, sir. I have never got in the car. Me and him was I was on something else. Okay. Now my bag in there. I'm stuck. I need my bag, man. My diabetic stuff is in there. My diabetic stuff is in that bag. I got all my food that I bought from the store. I need my stuff. Stuff is in there. He done took off. This cat done took off. I wasn't trying to do that. I'll go apologize them people if y'all want me to. It's no problem. This isn't my case. It's off. As the story unfolds, officers realize the man left behind may not have been fully aware of the scam, but he did attempt to cash a fake check worth $34,000. I think he got enough to Yeah, I would say at least a temporary 9 to5. Let's get them separated. Get one in one car, get one in the other. Put one in Perry's car, put one in my car, and then um go down to the bank and figure out what exactly you got. Yeah, they flagged me down in the parking lot yelling. These guys did. No, the banking. Okay. They were out in parking lot. I got to call somebody to bomb me out. So, I'm not saying you're going to jail. I probably am. So, I got to call somebody right quick. Said they came out here. They said that they were in a on the Genesis getaway car. Maybe that's the Maybe it's a car, but they said it was an SUV, but that's the same thing all these are. They're all Genesis is Yeah, it's the higher end. Yeah, they make cars. They make sedans and SUVs. So, um, yeah, I would say that we don't go anywhere with them yet, but let's get them separated. Let's get them secure. All right, turn around. Can I call my worker? Not right now. You'll get a chance when you get to county. I'm going to need your number on my phone. They'll let you do that. If you have numbers, just let them know and they'll Okay. They'll get you the your numbers. No problem. Got a bad elbow. Yeah. My knee screwed up. That's why I'm telling you. Okay. There you go. Sorry. He's kind of tight, but Well, he's trying to do it as loose as he can. I got him on one. I'm sorry. Stop reaching for Sorry, man. You're getting excited and getting nervous and doing all kinds of stuff for your cause. Sorry, man. If you're diabetic, just try to take some deep breaths. I'm trying, but my stuff is in that car, man. Well, I'm just going to tell you, you're not going to get it back cuz he took off and he dumped you. Despite his excuses and attempts to justify the situation, the officers take him into custody. Unless you recognize him when you get home eventually, I got to call him and let him know I don't I don't do none of that. He ain't going to answer your phone his phone anymore. He's not going to talk to you anymore. Okay, move your hands. Sorry. My my phone, my my uh uh case thing for my uh my uh what's her name? Yeah, that that's all [Applause] we got. Keys and all that. I don't I told you I don't do none of that. So that's all we never accused you of doing. Nobody said that. But you're you're passing fake checks and we got to handle that. Okay. Sorry. Whether you knew exactly what was going on or not, unfortunately. I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry. Feet apart. Oh, sorry. No. Put it down. Just feet apart. There you go. All right. Let me put them in your car. Okay. All right. Let's walk over here. This way. Yeah. rather passenger side or rear. Hey, could you get my phone in my pocket and call my worker? Hey, give me a second. Okay, I I'm being nice about it. I'm always cool with people if they're cool with me. I'm just hand. I got to call him to come get down. Have a seat. It's kind of a tight fit. Yeah, you kind of sit sideways. It might be a little easier for you. My phone is a little different. Sorry, I got to wipe my face, sir. My phone is acting up. Can Is there any way What's the password? Uh uh 1 2 3 4. The man cooperates with officers, makes a call to a friend, and calmly tries to share his side of the story. Okay, hang on. Hit that that uh button right there. No, no, no, no. The one the phone button. The phone. Yeah, let me see where the phone is. Right there. Right there where I found and let me look down. Keep on going. My phone a little slow. So, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Move that. Move that. No. Down. Down. Over this way. No, I can't hear. Right there. This here. Yeah. Recent. Yeah. Just hit that. Let me see. Uh, okay. I wish I could stroll. Let me see. Stroll down. Got to go up. Go up. Go up. Go up. Go up. Hold on. Go up. Go up. It's a six. Hold on. Keep going. Keep going. Let me see. Where is it at? It's on it. It's in there. Okay. Hold on. Wait. I got You got to go all the way back down. All the way back down. Sorry. I know it's I know it's in there. Back up. No, I can't see. Okay, hang on. It's a sick It's a six something number. I can't If these handcuffs was a little loose, I can uh show you. We got them as loose as we can, man. care with you. I want just I'm just trying to show you, sir. I can't move my hand. Hold on. Go down. Go down. Go up. Go up. Go up. Right there. Oh, you guys passed it right there. Just right there. That number right there. No, the six right there. Right there. Yep. That's Mike. Yep. Right there. All right. Sit back, man. I'm trying I'm just trying to I'm hot, man. Okay, I'll get you. His name Mike. See where speaker's at. Okay. Yo, Mike. Mike. The police got me. Hello. Mike, the police got me. What happened? I got arrested. But trusting the wrong person ultimately lands him in the back of a patrol car. Some dude said he had a job for us and he gave me a thing and told me to go in the bank and next thing I know the lady ran ran all this and they came and arrested us. So I mean about a check or something. What the hell? Yeah. What do you mean? I'm in Bloomington. I got arrested. What was the job? Huh? Have you for? I don't know. He was talking about he had a job for us and then he took off with my stuff in his car. He took off with my stuff in his car. Yeah. All of my stuff is in this car. Just a dude that you met at the No, it's it want to rot in these buddies, I guess. You can tell me you have court tomorrow. You'll get a bond. I'll get a bond tomorrow. You can call him tomorrow. I'll call you tomorrow. I get a bond tomorrow. Just I got to go. I I get a bond tomorrow. He want to talk to you, sir. Yeah. What can I do for you? Yep. Yep. I was just wondering what his chargers were. Uh I'm going have to talk to my partner before I can actually let you know. I'm not 100% sure what the chargers are going to be. I'm not the uh originating officer on this. I'm just assisting patient. Okay. That's what it sounded like. So, he'll be able to call you from county when we get there. All right. All right. All right. I'm going set that there. Thank you, sir. I'm going to turn on and roll down the window for me. Big guy, Columbia. I would have collected that, but I didn't know if you were going to take a photo of it or something. So, uh, despite the situation, he remains composed and respectful throughout the encounter. The big guy is the only one that cashed a check. The other guy panicked. Rodney took off. Rodney took off. So, he didn't actually cash a check. I kind of wondered. He kind of was acting like he's like, "Man, I knew something was up. I knew this wasn't right, and I didn't want to get so any further with it." Columbia actually went in and said, "I work for this company. and handed it to them and they so that's why they knew it was fake paper over there. That's why they knew it was fake right away because they got hit twice yesterday at like 245 for the same exact amounts. You help me. I don't want I don't think you want to think I'm running from you or none of that. a lot. I'm out of that truck, man. Yeah, man. It feel better. Little post forward. Yeah. I don't like I never rode one in my own time, man. Let's Let's keep it that way, right? Yeah. I'm going to do it. Believe me, I You was one of the I got to get I'm going tell whoever this dude is, that you one of the nicest officers I ever met. I appreciate that. My face right here, please. Unless you want me to call once I second book. You want me to call? Just hit it right there. Ready? Can I wipe my face off right here? I just need to wipe my I just need to do that real bad. Fair enough. Sorry. Hey, Mike. What's up? Hey, Columbia. What's going on, man? No, man. I'm good. Good. Okay. Uh uh I'm going to have to come pick you up, man. Okay. All right. You're going to have to listen to Mike when he says don't hang out with these people. I got you. I got you, Mike. Man, dude. Man, we going to find out who this other guy was, too. All right. Cuz they ain't that that's bogus. They did you wrong, man. Listen to me, Mike. I I was at Walmart buying my stuff. They come Rodney and him pull up on me. They said, "Uh, we going to make some money. We got a job." So, I'm assuming it was true. I didn't know. Before heading to jail, officers allow him one last call to explain everything and make postrelease arrangements. I didn't know nothing that was going on. Can I stand? Huh? I know you you had your money for lunch. Yeah, I had my money. I was going to Walmart to get me some lunch. I was going to Walmart to get me some lunch. That's where I was going. I went over there, got me some lunch, but then my bag in his car, my lunch is in his car, everything. Don't worry about your stuff, man. Don't worry about I got to get my stuff back somehow. Mike, I'm burning up. I know. I know. But I know, but just stay just stay calm. Okay. I got to work through this. I got to come up there and pick you up. All right. Okay. No problem. Mike, just take it easy in there. Okay. Just I'mma do what they say. I I like this cop. He's real nice to me. He's one of the nicest ones. Mike. His name Mike. Oh, yeah. Yeah. His name Mike. But he good people. I'll be up here in a couple hours. All right. All right. Mike, I didn't expect this to happen. Mike, I swear to you. I I know, man. I know. We'll talk. We going to talk about it. We'll figure it all out. Okay. I got to get my I got to have my speaker in that bag, everything. My lunch, my diabetic stuff. I'm burnt out, man. I'm just I know, man. I know, man. Hey, um what? So, we'll talk. We'll talk when I get But um do you have my phone number so you can call my It's in my phone, but my phone keep acting up. I'll write it down. Do do you got to call Epic and all this type game? Yeah, I'll write down here. Do you got to uh call Epic and all that? We'll talk about that when I pick you up cuz they got something missing. So, we'll figure it all out. They what? We We'll figure it out. Okay, man. Yeah, that's cool. I'm I'm going to come get you here in a couple hours. Okay. All right. So, my number is I I got it written down. You got it written down. I just need some water, you know, something to drink. My mouth is my diabetic an is kicking in. I don't you know I'm not used to getting arrested, man. I'm not used to getting I'm fine, man. Yeah, the nurses they have a full-time nursing staff here. So, if he needs something, they'll take care of them. At least he's keeping a surprisingly positive attitude for someone in such a tough spot, right? He ain't never he didn't disrespect me or nothing, Mike. He was real cool with me. This is one of the good I'm I'm putting good recommendation for him. He's good people, man. Real good people. I'm glad I'm glad you cooperated with him. I cooperated with him. I was going to get He didn't seem to get mad at one time in his car. I was sitting there, wasn't I? Yep. I didn't argue with him. I just I just like to talk. That's all it is. All right. I'm just a little nervous, man, about all this. Take a little nap or something and um in there. All right. All right. That's cool. That's cool, Mike. That's cool. All right. I got I got to call in to work, Mike. You got to let him know what's going on. I gotta get this number for Sean soon as he let me out of these handcuffs and uh get this number. Okay. I gotta find them dudes in that car, too. I know what the car look like and everything. Hey, Mike. We'll get him taken care of. All right. Yep. We'll get Have a good day, sir. All right. You, too. Thanks, man. I appreciate you. No problem. Eventually, he's taken into custody and charged with deceptive practices. The second man, who didn't try to cash the check, is released. Number two, that awkward moment when the scam starts to unravel. Police pull over a man suspected of identity theft after Chase Bank alerts them to suspicious activity. Here's what happens next. How's it going? Going by me. I didn't know you were pulling me over. No, we trying to talk to you. So, how's it going? Good. Well, we got a call from the Chase Bank about you in there trying to withdraw money from an account that is not yours. No, I was with my friend that was in the parking lot as well that they tried to withdraw money, but I was with them. So, where's your friend now? Uh, in the parking lot of Chase trying to get money. I guess they were trying to take money out. Hey, let's get another unit to the Chase Bank. Supposedly, the subject is still there. And this one saying that that's his friend. What's me? According to this guy, it's going to be a red Honda involved. That was second party driver. All right. Um, I know him from Full Sale. I went to Full Sale with him and I hadn't seen him in a while and he wanted to buy a PlayStation that um, PlayStation 5 that um, I was selling because I have two of them. I was waiting and waiting. I said I want to do it at a public place and when I was at the public place um, at the public place um, he was waiting taking too long and then I pulled out and left. Okay. Well, we'll get this straightened out. All right. That's fine. Why not talk? Can you roll this window down too? All the way so I can see inside. Why do you want to see inside my vehicle? I'm not doing anything. I want to be able to see your hands while he's busy. My hands are right here. No, I'm not playing games to you. He's He's This officer is being nice to me and you're telling me he was telling me there something about taking money out of a chase. I'm like, I didn't take any money. I got my chase right here. That's fine. But for our safety purposes, I need the window to come down cuz your window tent is too dark. My hands are right there. And the windows aren't too dark. They're legal. Give me my hands off. All right. Just relax. Thank you. You'll be all right. Pulling you open. I was scared the hell out of me. I don't get pulled over. I've never been arrested. I don't do anything like that. That's why when I see cops behind me like Officers decide to talk to someone from the bank who can identify him as the person involved in the scam. Description on the guy. Um, we don't have access to the video. He's 5'7. He's thin build like around his height. Yeah, my height. Um, and it's probably early 40s. Early 40s, like orange type tan, you know, like a spray tan. Spray tan. Spray tan blue dress shirt. Floral pattern. Yeah, it was a Okay. It was floral. He's saying floral. Yes. Uh, he's got a Jeep. American flag on the back. But that's a Jeep though. A red Honda. Who was in a red Honda? Was there another person in a red Honda? I think that's a bogus story. He used to just try to get us away with somebody else. Um, he's wearing a black hoodie and he has catchy pants. Uh, catching pants and black. But I did go in the bank, too. I was as well. Long jeans that are like washed. They're not dark. They're lighter color. They look like white. Maybe not clean them. You want to go take a look at this guy and tell me if it's him or not? All right. Jump in the car. All right. I'll take care of it. 631. No. 639. Just signal 14. He's probably telling a lie about it. As in there is no other person. That's 104. 104. Yeah. I think he just said that. Just try to get out of it. Yep. All right. You complete a statement for Do you guys have access to your video? No, we don't. Okay. You know, uh we have to request it or something like that. We have to request you. We'll complete a statement real quick, sir. Statement from you. Sure. While talking to the police, the man's story starts to shift. 636. I'm going to route with one manager for a show. I get in the back. Yeah. Sorry. So, people in the bank verify that you were there with somebody else. I miss. So, the one guy I was talking about my I was talking to him about my account um with my Chase um Southwest card and then um Jeffrey was talking to another guy and then he went to the drive-thru and then when I came outside um I said, "What's going on? What's taking so long?" Um and then he was in the car still. I pulled out but he was still there. So, I assumed he was still there dealing with them. I didn't know. Okay. Last I saw him, he was in the car outside cuz he was going to go to the driver. He said that he needed a checking like a check made out for $5,000. gave me the temporary ID and kind of right away. You give me a second and make a phone call. All right. So, I I just want to clear something up. I wasn't asking you to roll the window down to be mean or to be rude. For our safety purposes, it is so dark. I literally cannot see through it unless I'm looking over. That's why I wanted you to roll it down. I wasn't trying to be a douche. So, I don't I So, here here's the thing. I don't want to have to sit forward this far to be able to see on the behind the car. Be a black Toyota versus a VW. Negative injuries in the parking lot. Hey, Antonio, can you just do me a favor? I'm just just going to ask you to step out of the car real quick. Just said to me, don't talk to police. That's on you. That's okay. We'll take a look at it. Step out of the vehicle. Huh? Step out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then uh just face that way. Yep. That is him. That's a positive ID. All right. You're good to go. Have a seat back in the car. Hold on. Hold on. Be good. Before you get in the car, let me take a picture of you, sir. I'm wondering now what the hell accident. At one point he shows the officer's text messages from the so-called friend. And uh once you get in the car Yeah. I'll put my hands right out there cuz he keeps when you went away. He was like trying to tell me to like throw up. I'm like I'll put my hands right out the door. Just let me see the text he sent you if you don't mind. I'm not even going to write back to him. texted other people. Yeah, I texted my mom. She said, "What are you doing?" Let me go back to my text. So, you want to take a text from him? This is the text that I got after I said, "What's going on with uh somebody else text me?" Um, if you talk to the I know what that polo, but I know what that means. It's on you. So, I'm not sure what that meant. So, can you can you clear that so I can see who was the sender? This is the text that I got from him right now. resist right there. It's just about all I can remember. Um I don't know. I don't know if it's sufficient. Thank you. Oh, you guys. I can write him back and be like, can I say can I not do that? Ah, don't do it. Now it's weird. Yeah, he didn't sign that. Leave that in there for Kyle. Sorry. Oh, look. See, look. Um, and stay out of my And stay out of my This is Brian. And stay out of my business if you know what's best, bro. So, obviously, he's hiding something. Yeah. Why don't you guys call him? Um, I don't know what they've done so far. They've been doing other things. Well, we've been over here talking. I was going to say that. And that just came in just now. 48. That's just now. And stay out of my business if you know. Hey, German. He just texted him again. He said, "Stay out of my business if you know what's best, bro." Look, right when I'm right when I'm on the phone with somebody else, look. And stay out of my business if you know what's best, bro. And I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. What business? Stay out my business if you know what's best, bro. Officers immediately recognize the red flag. The number the messages come from traces back to a medical facility, which raises even more questions. Like, that's obviously shady to See, the problem I'm having with that number is I I do a cross reference and it's coming to a medical facility. Medical facility. Yeah. How the hell is he texting me from here? Well, these officers will be able to say no problem. No problem. Medical facility. How? Sir, you do me a favor. Step out of the vehicle. We just ask your question. All right. You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? Say that. You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? All right. Anything you say can and will be used against you. While you're doing this, you can turn it off. I'm not going to look at it. Do you understand? What's up? You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during questioning. Do you understand? You can afford a lawyer and want one. One will be provided. I'm arrested. Am I am I getting arrested or something? He's going to have to ask you questions. Oh, I was like, sir, but he has to advise you right to me for now. Okay. If you I've never had this happen. That's why I'm asking. I've never been in trouble with the police in my whole life. That's why I'm asking. If you cannot afford a lawyer and want one will be provided for you before questioning without charge. Do you understand? Yes, sir. Has anyone threatened you or promised you anything to get you to talk to me? No. Okay. Texted to say not to talk to you, but that's why I was talking to police officer. Okay. So, I'm going to be the main officer on this call. Yes, sir. So, can you just tell me what happened today just from the beginning? Yeah. Um, from the beginning, um, I went to full sale, um, for two years. I knew some I have a PlayStation 5 that I was going to sell. Um, had a couple of them that have already sold before since they've released. Um, so I I posted in the forums on the, um, uh, alumni forums, uh, Reddit thread, um, about having a place to sell. So, um, um, Jeffree said that he wanted to buy one. He messaged me. At first, I didn't know who it was. Um, and then I said, "Oh, I know who this is." Um because um I've known him before like four or five years ago when I went to school. In passing I knew who he was. So I said I wanted to meet him at the bank. Um I at first I said I was going to meet him at Bank of America. Um but then he said to meet him over here at this bank cuz he had to get money out. He tries to distance himself from any criminal activity, but officers already suspect that the friend might not even exist. And then um he got there, he went in, I went in. I was talking to one um teller at the window about my account um my Southwest Airlines Chase rewards card that I have. Okay. And then the other window he was dealing with him. He got out of the bank and then he went through the drive-thru as I stood inside. He was taking forever and stuff. I came out of the bank and I said to him, "What's going on?" Cuz he pulled back around. I said, "What's taking so long? What are you doing?" He goes, "Oh, never mind. Never mind. U never mind about the deal. Never mind about the deal." I'm like, "But what's going on? Why would you say that when you have me drove drive all the way here?" He goes, "Never mind. Never mind." Okay. I pull out um to the right over here this way. He was still there at the bank um in the car. Um and then as I'm pulling out this way at the light to make a right on this street um the officer I think it was this officer had the lights on and pulled me over and I was asking me um what had gone on. Did I try did I try taking money out of the bank and I said no. You said okay you say you were doing business at the bank. Well um I did not take any money out of the bank and I did not try to speak about my Chase rewards card. I think I have it or you have you still have it? I have it. I was speaking about my Chase account. um my Southwest Airlines rewards card. Never asked to take money out or nothing, but I was there with him. And then at first it wasn't suspicious to me. That guy's always suspicious, but now what's suspicious about it is as I was talking to the officer, I'm getting the text messages in saying, "Oh, if you talk to the police that's on you." Um talk to the police, that's on you. Um and I figure what else? Uh it's in the phone. He keeps insisting he didn't do anything wrong. He claims he only signed a form to check his rewards balance, not to withdraw money. doing all this dumb stuff with when it's like I told him if you have so please talk to the police if you're being honest why can't you talk to the police so that part is at any point today did you fill out a check withdrawal a check a check for withdrawing of money no I did not fill out any check withdrawals I had my card though there I had my card there and I wait a check withdrawal no but I did my um I was dealing with my Chase um Southwest Airlines card but I did not do you didn't fill out any paperwork I think I did sign for my check um for not a check but for my Chase rewards um to get my loyalty um reward balance. I think I did sign something to get my balance, but not a check. Not nothing for a check. I signed nothing to withdraw any money. No, absolutely. Not signing a physical check, bro. To withdraw money from the account. Withdraw money. I did not withdraw any money from my account. No, I did not. I think the only thing I signed was my um was my Chase rewards. Um to check your loyalty balance. When you're a Southwest member, you can do that. But I did not withdraw cuz that's what he asked me at first. I said I did not withdraw any money. What What ID did you use today to present to the bank? I didn't I didn't have an ID. Wait, did I have my Oh, wait. Um, I don't think I did my ID. So, I slid my um I slid my rewards card. I didn't have it. I didn't have no ID. I just have Chris ID. Now, I don't even think I showed him my ID. I just had my rewards. Um, I wrote it. You had my I showed him though. I did show the officer my chase. You can keep your hands out of your pocket for now. Okay. But all I did was slide it on the thing and then um that was it. But I did not withdraw any money or anything like that. No, I did not. I was actually hoping that he would so that I could sell the PlayStation and he was following me to my house. But it just got weird um to me when I was um talking to him and he goes through the drive-thru after after he's inside and then I come out and he goes, "Well, never mind. Never mind." So I'm like, "I don't understand." But then now it all makes sense. All right, sir. So unfortunately for him, his story doesn't match what witnesses say. The bank says he fits the description exactly. We spoke to a different branch manager today. Okay. Sure. In Orlando. Sure. They described you. They didn't describe your friend. They described you same way they described you right now. They said the person with a with a with a tan comb over here and the the flower shirt. Nobody but it's not I did not go to any I went to this bank. Wait, did I go to any other bank? No, I didn't go to I went to another bank today. I think this morning, but I didn't go to this I didn't go to this bank. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying this bank. Oh. Oh, you went to you went to another bank in Orlando. I withdraw money. I have money in my pocket. I did withdraw money today. Um, I did withdraw money today from my bank of um this morning. I did withdraw money this morning cuz I have cash on me. But um no, I did not um go to any I did not go to this bank ever before. Just now with him and that's it. And I did not withdraw any money from this bank whatsoever or even try to. Okay. Um I did go in Orlando near my house though to a bank um this morning. I did. Yes. By myself. Not with anybody. By myself. All right, sir. So at this time we're we're going to place you under arrest. You understand? For what though? Okay. We have enough uh enough enough evidence right now to place you under arrest. But I didn't do anything, officer, for attempting to take money right now. Okay. And I really didn't, officer. You guys are supposed to be the ones that if you don't do anything wrong and you tell the truth. I've never been in trouble in my life. And I didn't take any money anywhere. They described you to a tea. And that's just money out of an account. So did the other bank location. Money out of an account. Oh, you attempted to. Okay. So do me a favor. Just put your hands behind your back. Turn around. Can I turn my car off? Oh, we'll do we'll take care of that. Just turn around. Put your hand behind your back. Why am I getting arrested? Turn around. Put your hands behind your back. I'm not asking you. Okay. Oh my gosh. Would you lock your fingers for me? Yeah. I don't understand why I'm getting arrested for something I didn't even do. Can I call my spouse to come get my vehicle and leave it so it's not towed? We could work on something like that. Yeah. The car is neatly parked right now. So Well, can I roll up my window and put my car off so nobody goes into my car? I don't want anybody see. Going to take care of that. Okay. Well, can I do it? No. No, you cannot do it. Well, can I watch you guys turn off my car? You can do that. You can watch right here. Thank you. It's a stick shift. Officers take care of the car and begin the process of arresting him. Roll up the window right here. And that thing has already been broken. Um, I don't understand, officer, why are you guys arresting me when I really didn't do anything? I really didn't. If you have if you guys can do more research or something, I swear to you, please do your research cuz I've never been First time in my life I'm getting arrested and it's going to be something I didn't do. I swear to you I didn't. I don't lie. Who could we call? Um, do you call my spouse? Brian, how do you unlock your phone? It's a passcode or phone. Well, what why do I want to unlock my phone though? Oh, yeah. Let me see. And make sure we do a pat down. Do what? Do a pat down. You're not going to talk to him right now. I can't talk to him. No, you'll get a phone call later on. As of right now, I do my phone then. We're just calling in regards to this. Okay. Rex, we're just calling in regards to your vehicle, right? We're trying to help you out. Okay. No, you guys are not. How rude is this? I'm going to call a lawyer then. I don't need you texting anyone. Well, because you guys are going through all now being rude to me. Do you know her phone number or who you want to come pick up? Yes, my spouse. All right. What's the phone number? 727. One second. Cuz just then it looks like you want to text him again. Well, I was going to text him. Was I not supposed to? No, we're we're trying to call and get him here right now. Okay. Okay. Call, please. C can I ask why everybody's going through all my things in my car and all my wallet when your phone? We're trying to help you out right now with the vehicle. Okay. I'm not getting anybody permission to go to my vehicle without a search warrant, please. I don't want everybody going through my stuff right now. But I'm not doing anything. Do you want me to call her or not? Yeah. Him? Yes. Okay. But can you ask him not to go through all my stuff, please? I don't want anybody going through all my things. This isn't right. You guys one more time. 727. And why does he keep going in my vehicle, sir? When I don't want anybody going in my vehicle without a search warrant. I'm not doing anything. He was the officer that was being mean to me at first, but now you guys are being rude to me for no reason. Hopefully, you fix it. Now in custody, he attempts to protest his case, insisting he's innocent. Officers remain focused, continuing the arrest process. You ask him why he's going without a search warrant in my vehicle. like out of the vehicle and I would like him to be out of my vehicle. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, he we're allowed to search the vehicle because you're being arrested and the vehicle is being towed. So, he searchs the vehicle. It's not being towed. We're requesting for someone to help get up. Okay. Yeah. But it's being still being searched in to arrest. I don't understand why when I talk to you guys and I'm saying that you tell the truth when somebody doesn't call. Want to leave a message? Brian, I'm with the police. Call me. All right. I want to put on my vehicle. Come on with me. I don't understand why I'm in the box when I didn't do anything. Facing this. So, here's another suspicious thing. That number he had he had you call called as Brian. That's a different number than he gave us for Brian earlier. And I didn't take anything from anyone. It's like if you're going to get in trouble first time in your life, you should at least get in trouble for something you do. And I didn't do nothing. Okay. Oh, cool. I'm going to place you in my vehicle now. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to step inside. Do you want a seat belt on? No. What about my money? Do I put it in my pocket? I have your money right now. Thank you. And it's on video camera that I'm receiving it. Okay. I'm going to put it into a bag. Get a bag. We'll get his phone. We'll let you make another call when we get over there. Okay. If you want to call anyone else. What do I I've never What do I do to get like What does somebody build me out? I'm I'm going to be 40 or 40 years old. So, right now right now here, listen. We have uttered false instrument. Okay. What does that mean? That means you signed a deposit slip requesting for money. Yeah. Okay. But I really didn't sign it. Okay. You guys have We do. And we have two people that positively identified you. Okay. I signed a deposit slip. That's what we have. Okay. You need a withdrawal slip. Withdraw. Yeah. I I'll clarify what it is. But that's what we're working with right now. Okay. And where are the keys to this? I know. Okay. I'm going to keep one card key. Yep. And the rest you can take. In the end, he's charged with uttering a false instrument and criminal use of personal ID. But he doesn't learn his lesson. Just eight months later, he's arrested again for trying to fraudulently withdraw over $800,000. Number one, bank scam unravels as woman in wig gets exposed. Police are called to a Florida bank after staff notice something suspicious. A woman and a man try to open a bank account and apply for a $20,000 loan using questionable documents. Staff quickly suspect fraud and call law enforcement. Vehicles in the parking lot. There's three cars, but I think they're not going to belong to them. Hello. Hello. We got a call by you guys trying to do a fraudulent transaction. So that's why we're here. Okay. All right. So give us a couple of seconds. Headquarters. We're 10:12. We're going to be inside. Uh you can go ahead and cancel with the channel. I got the less here. You guys have any ideas on You want me to cancel? I'll be happy to cancel. Yeah, just say uh yeah, I'mma move him real quick. You guys have no ID. You guys are opening an account. 10663 emergency. You called for them, too, right? Yeah. Okay. Let me just park behind this guy. Okay. All right. We currently have a open case. We're doing a park with this gentleman as well. And who's the lady with them? I don't know. So I think he's getting her to do the fraud. Gotcha. What's the winner park? How do you know like from this office or from another? From another office. This will be their probably third location that they visited. Oh, okay. Or do you have any of that information? Let me see if I can corporate. What made you what besides the past? What's causing it now? She's the suspicious of the train and it not being her. When officers arrive, they speak with both individuals separately. The woman is wearing a wig and initially sticks to her story and maybe I can contact them. I guess they hit other McCoy and they got a case for him from Winter Park and she's showing ID that's claiming she's 39 years old. Born in 1931. Oh, born Oh, so Hey, ma'am. Excuse me. I just his information. Oh, perfect. Miss H. 353. Real quick 353. Hello. Um, what year? What What's your date of birth? 47 1939. 39. I'm sorry. Do you know what's going on? No. Do you mind if you can take the mask off for a second? Okay. Um, who's a gentleman with you? Oh, he takes care of my yard work and stuff at home and takes care of a lot of my He takes care of your yard work. Yeah, he does my paperwork. How long have you known him? About three years. How did you get to know him first? Uh, through his uncle. Through his what? Through his uncle. Who's his uncle? He's good on computers. right now. Is he not good? Well, I guess he has several fraud cases going on, so that's why I want to know. She claims the man with her helps her with yard work and paperwork. She says she just wants a loan to fix up her home. That's why they called us and I can away from Miss Gentleman. I'm sorry. Since I know this now, say again that I can walk get away from this gentleman then or Well, I want to I need to investigate all. I can't just let everybody go. You know, if he's telling you to What is he telling you to do? No, he don't tell me. He helps me with my banking paperwork. So, what were you guys here today for? And uh for the to loan and open up my account. Oh, okay. Yeah. And he's just here to You think he's here to help you is what you're the understanding of your graduation filing a loan? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I opened up my account and I'm found for a loan I can remodel. Okay. So, is that Do you have an account here? No, I just opened one today. When did you open it today? Yeah. Yeah. The way I can What time did you open it? Just earlier. U I've been here the whole whole time. Okay. actually said file for a loan. That way I could do my home. So you open an account and then you you become a partner at the bank and then you can get a loan as well. He was just helping you do that. He said that's way I do my home improvements. Okay. Gotcha. But if you guys know something I need to Well, we don't know. I don't know him personally. We're just getting the the bank Okay. The McCoy federal organization has called and notified this guy is going around the three other banks. But if you know him personally, this could just be a mixup. I don't know. Okay. Um, is he advising you to do anything? No. No, sir. No, sir. Is he not have access to your bank account? No, not you paused on that. Like are you giving him are you giving him where he sits in in the room with me while I'm setting him up? That doesn't matter. Correct. The living room or in the office? In my office. However, when officers press her on details, inconsistencies start to show. You could write it down. Is he on his phone writing things down? No. No. What do you All right. Why do you Did he drive you here? Yes. Yes. What car is he driving? The maroon car. Is that your car? No. It has a handicap sticker on it. Okay. From what you've seen, has anything been suspicious with him? With you. Have you been missing money? No, he's been very good. You said you've known him for years. Yeah, he's been a very good gentleman. Very polite. Very polite to me. Okay. I don't know in the past that you know, but he's been very polite to me. The gentleman. All right. If you don't mind, can you just hang out here for a second? Just take a seat. I got to speak with the manager. So, do you guys know who he is? Well, I don't believe so. No, I just gave him the detective and the case number. But how do you know him saying cuz he's visited other branches, but nobody knows his name. I don't know his name because he's not the one actually doing the transaction. So, but what I'm saying is do they send pictures to all you guys to say, "Hey, be we'll be on the lookout for this kid." Yes. Okay. Can I see that? Give me one second. I'm just wondering how you guys know if you guys don't know him per like Oh, I know him. He came here yesterday with his ID and he tried and he took off. And then on her part, you see nothing suspicious with her. I don't think that's her. Do you believe that's her? The nose matches. She looks like she might have some jaw. So, she was born in 1939. She looks old. I'm going to have to I'll have to verify it and we'll I'll do my best. Okay. As cracks in her story begin to show, officers press further, determined to uncover the truth. Miss, how old are you? I'm not quite I'm in my 81. What? 81. You're 81? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. She's Yeah. She's 83 on the ID. Her nose kind of matches though. That's what got me. This is wild. That's what got me. I almost want to pull my lace. I can show them. Can I print it or just show for my I have it on my phone. Okay, let me What's your current address? My I'm at apartment 4, honey. On a road. What was your What was your previous address from that? I I can't exactly remember, honey, but I went to two different addresses. Well, what what city? before the Orlando City before then. You've always lived in Orlando. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. I got to ask, are you wearing a wig? Are you wearing a wig? Yeah, I see this. Are you wearing a wig? Huh? going to jail. Now we're getting to the truth. Yeah. Is this really you? You're Is that a wig? Yeah, it is a wig. That's what I thought. I thought I saw a wig. Picked me up and you said I had to do this, but then I'm going to count. I don't know what you thought. I don't know. I don't. So, what's your real name? My name is I don't get that. And just like that, Cat's out of the bag. She finally admits the wig isn't hers and neither is the ID. Promise you for it. A little percentage. So, so did you open an account here? Or were you in the process of opening anything? Yeah, I opened up an account. I'm not from here. Can you give my partner your full name, date of birth, address, phone number? Okay. Am I going to be safe when I leave? Well, we like to get the end of the story, you know. Yeah, we'll make Yeah, if you're truly I'm not from here. I'm from Delaware and I'm like You're from where? Delaware. I'm not from here. How long have you been here? I'm trying to get back home now. Well, how long you been here? Almost 5 years. 5 years. Yeah. Okay. Are you homeless? Yes. Okay. All right. Listen, this is this he's just write it all down for him. All right. Now that I'm investigating an alleged crime, right, I'm going to read you your rights. All right. You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? Yes, sir. Anything you say may be used against you in court. Do you understand? Yes, sir. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during questioning. Do you understand? Yes, sir. If you cannot afford, a lawyer and 111 will be provided for you before questioning without charge. Do you understand? Yes, sir. Has anyone threatened you or promised you anything to get you to talk to me? That I could go home. That you can go home. Who told you that? But to get you to talk to the police? No. Okay. Are you willing to talk to me and help us out and solve this so we can get this done? Oh, okay. So that is a wig that you're wearing. I was right. Okay. Realizing the officers are connecting the dots, she starts to open up even more. Okay. So, you're homeless. How do you come about to meeting this gentleman? I'm trying to get home and to Delaware. Yeah. He said he could pay me if I just open up an account and go home. So you would open up an account using this person's information, whoever this person is. Yeah. Okay. And he would put me on my so I could go home. And then from that money, he would give you go back to Delaware cuz you're trying to go back to Delaware. Yes. Where did you meet him? On the street. What's on the street? Where? Highway of OBT. OBT and what the OBT balls. I know. And do you know like intersection? No. Inv Wendy's. This is today you met him? Yeah. Do you know his name? No, he didn't give you his name or nothing. He just told me T. Okay. tag Charlie uniform 091. Okay. Have you ever had a driver's license in the state of Del cuz I got to identify you. How How would I be able to identify? This is me. God told us truth. This is me. What I don't want is for you to lie to me again. Cuz if you lie to me this time, this is me. Okay. Hey, I'm from Delaware and I'm trying to go home. All right. All right. We'll figure it out. Okay. Give me a sec. [Applause] The woman says she met him on the street and was offered money to pose as someone's mother. According to her, the man promises her a portion of the money if she helps open the account and file for the loan. coming out of this. So she is a trans guy today, someone off OB team fight Wendy's doesn't know his name and nothing. She said she tries to talk to him. He obviously she train. He says, "Go to the bank, tell her to this lady, open up a loan in this lady's name. I'll pay you from that loan." say how much? No, she said she's trying to get back to Delaware. That's where she's from. She's not She doesn't live here. So, she said that he would give her money so she can get back home to Delaware. For what was the loan for? How much was it for? 20,000. 20,000. 8,000. Did he tell you how much he would pay you specifically from that 20k? Just said he would send me send you back home to Delaware. Okay. She's at this point now she's figured out. She even not truthful. She now she's seems to be opening up and telling us everything appears that way. I haven't identified her yet. Unfortunately, it's Delaware, but she said this is What are you What are you doing? What do you mean? What am I doing? I'm walking with the bank. It was open. The door's not open. Who are you? Are you a guest? Are you trying to do business? That's my little That's my So then you're So you're not here for the bank. Do not open your mouth and say anything to me. Go outside. You need a lawyer. Go outside. Don't touch me. I'm not here. You're messing with the investigation. Go outside or you get arrested. I'm not playing games with you. Go outside. You're going to get arrested. A detective arrives to dig deeper into the case and question the woman further. Go outside or you get arrested. Go outside and get arrested. Go outside. Do what I said. Do what I said. Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. Hello, I'm Detective Jackson. I'm within the financial crimes unit. Okay. Before I speak to you, I just want to make sure. Okay. Just tell me what's going on here. No, cuz you seem like you've been wrapped up into this whole try to speak a little. So, what do you do? I'm Mhm. And he stops on the highway and I've been trying to get home from Delaware. I'm trying to get back home. He says you won't. So, you've been trying to get back to Delaware is what you're saying. He says you won't have to do anything. Just pose as my mom. I said that's what I did. To pose your mom. Okay. Who wig is that? That's what he gave you? Okay. Do you know his name? No. Did he tell you a name? No. T is all I know. I just had to come in and just stay and not say anything. Okay. [Music] Do me a favor. What is your name? Shauna. Shauna. Okay. Do you have a Florida driver's license? No. Do you have a driver's license in another state? Delaware. Delaware. Okay. How long have you been living here in Florida? How How long? In 5 years. I'm stuck here. How did you get here? A train. By train. As the conversation unfolds, she becomes increasingly emotional, insisting she's just a victim caught in someone else's mess. Do you have any relatives here? No. So, I'm trying to go home. So, what led you here to Orlando? My best friend. No. And I've just been on the street all the time. Say that again. I'm sorry. I've just been on the street here and there. Mhm. I just can't get back over. I don't have no idea. Where do you primarily you know uh frequent? What area do you The coalition? Coalition. Okay. Do you have a room there? No, I stay on the sidewalk. Okay. Come here. So when this you said this guy approached you today? Have you ever seen him before? No. Okay. So, just walk me through the process of what what happened today when you were approached by him. He just said if I could come back and and said he said I wouldn't have to say anything and sit there open up a credit card thing bank. Okay. I'm sorry I did not understand you. He said I wouldn't have to do anything but sit there and like mom. So he open up a credit card. Okay. But how did he approach you? Like how did you know what you were doing? He he just walked up to me and said he just they just walk up to you out there like that. Is this what he said initially? That's what he said. He said what now? Could you couldn't you? He said, "You want you want to earn a few dollars?" And you know what I mean? I said, "I'm just trying to get, you know, I mean, back. I don't have to wear anything because all you got to do is stand there and act like you're my mom and all do all the talking." Mhm. That's right. Okay. Now, how how much where he's going to give you? Take me home. He's going to take you home? To send me home? He's going to give you enough to send me home. Okay. She says she didn't fully understand what she was doing, but now sees how serious it is. Did you say anything to the teller or the uh loan officer? No, he was in here and what is this here? From him. Who who wrote this? Okay. This was given to you. Mind if I see this? Okay. My trousers. Um I'm still investigating and um I'm going to come back and give you some information. Okay. Um but most likely I'm going to be completely honest with you. I mean you were aware what you were doing. Correct. came here. No, he told me to sit there. So, I'm not aware of what I'm doing. Well, he told me to You had a identification card, right? No, he gave us me when I walked in here. Was it you on that? No, ma'am. Okay. And you're not Loretta Hail. No, ma'am. Okay. So, you know that the person that you're trying to represent, you put on a wig, you know that you're not this person. Okay. So, that's your accountability in this particular case. Okay. So you have to take some action here because as a bank, you know, they're believing that you are representing someone to be this truth presenting all of these documents. Okay? So I want you to understand that even though you were, you know, presented to do this in hopes that you can get back, you were representing someone that they didn't give you authorization to do that. Okay. I could look at what um I'm going to give you some information for now. Um once I gather everything about locked up and I can't go my kids, just hold on for a second. Okay, I want you to come. Officers explained that using someone else's identity as a crime and that she has to take responsibility for her actions. Okay. But we're not going to, you know, you you do have to have some accountability here. You understand that? Okay, ma'am. Okay. All right. But for her name or Okay. What is this in your hand here? This a clip. My breath. Okay. Okay. Um, can I see this here? Is this yours? The man, in contrast, stays mostly silent as the detective questions him. Hello, sir. How you doing? My name's Detective Jackson. I'm with the Orlando Police Department's financial unit. Okay. Can I have your name? Tyson. How do you spell that? T Y S O N. T Y S O N. You have middle name? Uh, N O N O. N O N O. And what is your last name? O C E N A T. O C E N A T. Can I call you Tyson? Um, yes, you can. Okay. Um, so Tyson, like I said, my name is Detect Jackson. Um, obviously you've been detained here. You're not free to leave. You know that, right? Um, I am obligated to in order to speak to you to read you what's called your Miranda rights. Okay? So, I'm going to read that to you. Okay? Um, it's not necessarily mean that you're going to be arrested. It's just that I have to read your rights before I question you about anything that goes on today. Okay? You understand that? Understand? Okay. And when I read you these rights, I just want you to just give me a yes or no if you understand. Okay? You have the right to remain silent. Do you understand? I need a verbal yes or no. Okay. Anything you say may be used against you in court. Do you understand? I understand. Okay. You have the right to talk to a lawyer before and during question. Do you understand? I understand. You can if you cannot afford a lawyer and want one, one will be provided for you before questioning without charge. Do you understand? I understand. Has anyone threatened you or promised you anything to get you to talk to me? No. Okay. Um what I just want to talk about obviously you were here at the bank. Um you came in with this uh lady here uh the white female the older white female. Okay. Um what is your involvement with her? Eventually he asks for a lawyer and shuts down any further questioning. That's a friend of mine. You know my lawyer wants to come and speak. Is your lawyer present? Oh, not at the moment. Not at the moment. My sister called um just for my to protect myself. Okay. So, your sister is outside. That's correct. Yeah. Came in. She was trying to speak to me, but I guess they escorted her out. Okay. How old are you? I'm 26. 26. So, you're grown right now. Um now, are you requesting a lawyer? Is that what you're saying? Uh she my sister came in here and said don't say anything and that she requested one for me. Oh well I'm asking you. Uh I trust her words. Okay. Okay. So I just need a verbal confirmation from you that you're you don't want to talk right now about this incident. Um until my lawyer's present. Okay. Okay. That's fine. 1918. They got to tell me why he's an adult. Okay. We don't have to explain anything to you. We're his sister. Okay. But he's an adult. You're He's not a child. So, we have no We have no obligation to explain anything to you. Can you explain why what's wrong? What why he's getting arrested for? You can speak to the detectives, but we we are the officers that's making sure the scene stays secure. Okay. When there's an open invest as a Yeah, but there's an open You're arresting him. You're taking him, right? And he's I'm trying to tell you what what what is the reason for the arrest? Okay. Well, when he gets when he's able to speak to you, he will and he'll let you know that. Oh my god. He has to speak to you. He's an adult. Okay. We don't have any obligation to It's his business. Soon after his family shows up outside the bank, but officers remind them he's an adult and they're not obligated to share any details. We don't have to tell you anything. But when you pull up his records, it you guys matter. Okay. It doesn't matter. Have a mother. He doesn't have a father. None of that makes a difference. He's still a grown man. And it doesn't matter. It is what it is. Yes, it is. We don't have to explain it to you. My daughter is a grown woman. wouldn't help me. I have to go through it, right? Okay. It's nothing's going to change. He'll call you and let you know. That's all I can tell you. I'm sorry about that. We understand. He'll call you and let you know. I don't have answers for you. Yeah, but I I want to know what's the reasoning. What What's going on? He'll be able He'll get a phone call when he's Of course, they're not going to call and tell me, "Hey, I'm going to call my boss and my boss is going to When there's an open investigation, we can't speak about things with people. It doesn't work like that. You understand? They just No, no, no, no. I ain't going to [ __ ] I'm calling my boss. Call the boss. They don't want to tell me anything. I already Both are arrested and later charged with grand theft, defrauding a financial institution, and unlawful possession of personal ID. 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