educated citizens are armed with knowledge and rights but what happens when confrontation arises between them and cops here are four times when educated citizens stand up to idiot cops name and badge number name and badge number do not resist what am I resist what what what are you doing do not I'm not resisting what are you doing this is Officer Mendoza from the Austin Police Department on January 17th 2024 Brian Stone a photographer encountered a security guard named James while taking pictur outside the shopping mall in Austin Texas James the security guard had cautioned a young individual riding his bike around the shopping center Mr stone asserts that James purportedly pepper sprayed him and caused damage to his camera subsequently Mr James called the police to the scene witness how Mr Stone approaches Mr James following the incident despite being sprayed without apparent cause hey give me all's cards you sprayed all my [ __ ] give me your card give me your security card give me your security card what's your name what's your name what's your unit number Jam you m you back up give me your security card I'm not in your personal space I ain't got to go nowhere spray me again back up I'm going to have your ass to come on give me your card I ain't giving you no card what's your name James James what James James I no [ __ ] what's your name what's your name James give me your security card do you know it's against the law I'm not to do it right I'm sorry but yeah yeah that's fine that's fine come on come on James James come on yeah yeah no you will no I won't no you will okay then I'll get APD here yeah yeah I'm going to yeah so here we got Professional Security Consultants Bravo 17541 we got Bravo 17541 license plate p8 70374 license plate p870 368 are those tags expired those tags look expired are those tags expired that's a question shut up no you do ask a question you're a public servant negative oh no yeah you going to think negative are those are those tags expired are you tags expired on those Vehicles cuz they look expired this guy just really out of yeah yeah get him out here get him out here cuz you sprayed me for you try to get me [ __ ] direct this [ __ ] your security guard ho oh I can I can cuff him that wouldn't be a problem yeah cuff me put your hands on me see what happens whoa yeah see what happens cuff me got it all right okay you got about 1 minute I got about 1 minute before the cops get here that's good good good I'm calling them also yeah call the cops yeah I assume that was your boss that you on the phone with right it don't matter who we're on the phone with you're asking too many questions that we don't have to answer you're a public servant you do have to answer I do you also have to give me your card I know this hey you think you're the first one dude you think the first one yeah I'm going to make sure I ain't got to step back I ain't in your personal space yeah you are no I ain't I can't touch you that's not personal space no you can't walk close to me that's a personal space no no I can 9500 South I yeah please get the police out of here cuz these people sprayed me with no cause back up I don't have to back up I can be wherever the I want to right here I'm not in your space dude it's on camera bro recording recording the whole thing I even got you spr I didn't realize it until I seen this all over my lens and [ __ ] yeah call the cops out here yeah call the cops yeah you're violent man no I ain't violing pissed off you Tred to come up to me and try to give me orders about what the I should be doing I didn't come up to you at all weren talking no oh shut the f up yeah no you ain't gonna talk to me like that bro your little kid [ __ ] yeah p p PSC Security here sprayed me for goddamn not want to take his directive for not wanting to shut the up like you running [ __ ] around here you fat you SC scar me you guys got a pair of sciss back he's got a camera in his hand I got camera but the weapons that he has are very accessible so what I have to ride bar arms [Music] Officer Mendoza along with several other deputies showed up at the scene responding to Mr James's call No No Name a badge number please name a badge number turn around name a badge number name and badge number do not resist what am I resist what what what are you doing do not I'm not resisting what are you doing put your what the are you holding me for put your hands behind your back what are you holding me for put your hands behind your back all right I'm doing it quit trying to manhandle me just Hey Hey Hey Hey Hey listen just listen just listen just listen let do not I'm not going for no damn KN told me to put my hand behind my back listen just relax okay Hey listen listen just relax right now is not the time to debate this okay let go your camera no okay you're going to put your hand behind your back or you going to you violate my rights you violate my rights you're going to get your hand hey hey hey hey hey hey do not move I he told me to put my hands behind my back dude there's a knife right there and I have the right to bear arms you're you're unlawfully SE to De season me relax gra M why do you need to set a c for I'm not even resisting you because you're too wide that's right we don't want to hold your shoulder okay okay okay well as right now you're being detained till we investigate what's going on okay that's fine Mr Stone was handcuffed and detained while the deputies investigated the matter however the detention can raise certain questions since despite the suspicion of Mr Stone being resolved the officers still kept handcuff watch how the encounter follows said Mendoza bad badge number right there what's your badge number is that what you tell the C is that what you tell the courts what's your name and badge number identify yourself as an officer please have a seat identify yourself as an officer please I'm Officer Mendoza with the office Police Department what's your badge number M I already told you I'm not going to repeat myself you didn't you pointed at it what's your name and badge number okay identify yourself as an officer of the law what's going on Sir name and badge number he it's right there also name and badge number please detective carabal with the awesome Police Department what's your name what's your name 6123 is that correct sir that's correct all right what's your name on look at my camera so why are y'all detaining me because listen we got a call out here for a disturbance okay okay look at my camera look at my camera are you going to listen listen for me to answer the question that you ask so be quiet you ask me a question give me an opportunity to answer Okay the reason why we're here is because we got called for a disturbance okay between you and the security officer all right and then he said he pepper sprayed you because you pulled out scissors or whatever so listen you ask me why we're here I'm telling you bring it down a little okay listen just listen I'm going to give you an opportunity to speak that's why we're here okay and the fact that you have a weapon on you we're not saying that it's illegal to carry we're not saying that it's illegal to carry but we are going to take it away from you for safety and for our safy so unlawful unlawful search and seizure right okay whatever you're the attorney here right you're the attorney here I'm asking you a question what's going on okay look at my camera can you stop moving back just sit right here sit right here sit right there look at my camera why do I got to look at it look at the camera why because that's evidence look at the camera that's what he C spray you right and he also got me in the face too it's all in my eyes where's meal at okay you need medical ambulance huh yeah I need medical out here we'll get the ambulance for you start EMS he's saying he got pepper spray and he wants EMS to come up here and look at him so before we leave out of here I need that man's I need all his identification ask your question sir how did you guys come in contact like first of all he was following he was following some kid on a bike the kid has stopped to talk to me I'm out taking pictures I'm a photographer that's what I do I'm a journalist he was talking he was stalking some dude I want to say he was talking he was following some kid on a bike and when he stopped he said something to the kid about you don't need to be around here and I said bro if he lives around here he has every right to be around here he said shut the fck up I ain't talking to you and that's what I told him I said no you shut the up you don't tell me what to do I ain't youring little kid so anyways that's how that escalated and then when I came up on him that's when he sprayed me and I wasn't even close to him okay I wouldn't even know where near his ass where where did he where were you standing when he sprayed you we were standing over there uh uh sir can you move just over just a little bit so I can see stay over here though stay over here though you I'm trying to see okay look man I can't I don't know we were right up over there so see where my bike is we were somewhere up over in that area over there in front of in front of that store we might have been in front of Ulta okay and so so that interaction happened he told you that you got upset and then that's when he told you he pepper sprayed you he just pepper sprayed you he just pepper sprayed me I wouldn't I wasn't in his face with none of that [ __ ] where do you pepper spray you on your camera on the camera in the face it's all in my eyes and everything it's all in my eyes and everything I can feel it okay and at first I didn't realize it okay because I mean I have a pretty high tolerance to this I can take 2.5 million scullville no problems but unfortunately I could feel it and then when I got over to Target I realized that there was [ __ ] all over my camera and when I went to take a picture uh what's your name uh what what is that there is that his identification what's what's your first name man is that his identification what's your first name r what's your R what's your Ras why are you making this so much difficult I don't need to I don't need to make it difficult you guys got me in handc cuz this man assaulted me I'm going to tell you why you're in handcuffs they probably already explained to you okay someone call 911 and said that you were trying to stab one of the security y'all think it's funny right now y'all think it's funny right now which I have both your jobs you little are you can you listen I'm listen someone call 911 and said you were going to try and stab someone with oh that's [ __ ] yeah that's what I'm trying to figure out cuz I promise you if I wanted to stab his fat ass it would have been done already and I didn't do anything to let me explain why I'm here like I said somebody called somebody said you try to punch him and then try to stab with that's why like said I had to put you in and I guarantee you I bet you there's other cameras outside of mine I guarantee I bet you there's other cameras in here that I'm going to pull that's why I as where you were and I just confirm with them that they're denying that you ever took out your scissors or knife and like said you're ear your rights to hold your scissors right to have knives on you stuff like that right so why so why did y'all illegally take my [ __ ] and why am I DET why am I in handcuff because see now now unfortunately for y'all hold on no I want to tell you how this is going to work out because now I'm not detained I'm arrested no you're not it it's arrested as soon as you put the handcuffs on me that's arresting no you're not it is for rested my wrist that's what it's called bro hey you can play whatever you want when it goes to court I'm telling you how it's going to work out okay so now that we know for a fact because I guarantee you whoever made that report if it was him that's lying to an officer which is in charge on him it might be a misdemeanor but that's still a charge on him so and I promise you before we leave up out of here I'm going to have both of their names and I'm going to have their jobs before the end of the week is though okay do you have do you have do you want providing your name so I can write no I do not I want their names I want their names and I want their security numbers okay so you're going to have to identify yourself I do not because I have't committed a crime I know my rights okay so then it's not going to be documented and you're not going to have their names I'm going to get their names regardless I've already got their company and everything and I've got and I've got their Badges and everything okay so I promise you if you don't want to get their names and I know by law they have to give it to me that's fine I'm going to get it regardless I promise you I'm going to get but you're making this so much more I'm not no no no no I'm not these guys lied to you and all I did no here's the thing here's the thing all I did all I did was tell that piece of [ __ ] he does not own me and he wasn't going to tell me what to do I'm upset of course I'm upset I got sprayed and y'all guys got me in handcuffs you're damn right I'm upset you ain't got to explain nothing to me I haven't broken any law I haven't done anything wrong and you got me detained you've got me arrested and I want their names and I'm going to get it one way or another either I get it from y'all I'm going to get it from their [ __ ] company yeah tried to explain that to you several times but you're just too upset to understand you're right I'm upset I've been sprayed and y'all guys got me in handcuffs and questioning me and we've explained that to you we question them as well so don't say we only question you we talk to them as well okay so why aren't they detained in handcuffs because they don't have a weapon on them reallying M isn't a weapon listen you so so I was assaulted and you're saying and you're saying way no no no no I promise you I'm not I'm taking it just as far as it needss to be Mr Stone argues that he cannot be kept detained based on hearsay for those who don't know here say is an outof Court statement to prove the truth of the asserted matter where the speaker's credibility cannot be tested through cross-examination observe how the encounter ends you know because the honest truth is is I've done everything that I was supposed to do I didn't do anything wrong and I promise I'm going to have their jobs by the end of the week well that by all means I mean by all means we have a job to do we want to make sure we do it we want to make sure that appr I don't want anybody saying oh he got a big knife and he has to say make it quick okay yeah all right you got a CT put on you that means I know what a CT is just tell them what exactly I know what a CT is I don't need you to explain nothing to me I don't need your directives and what I'm going to do and what I'm going to do because I have business here in this property no longer allowed on this property3 9500 as I promise you I don't need your directives I Promise You by the end of the week I'm going to have your job and you can't put a CT on me he can temporarily now sir if you don't mind I would like to be from handcuffs since we realized that there's no crime committed as soon as the supervisor comes and talks to you we'll release you okay Mr Stone was released following the encounter he allegedly blamed Mr James the security guard had ruining his expensive $33,000 camera if you think Mr Stone was the only individual who stood up for his rights wait until you watch this next case how you doing can you come over here in front of my car so my camera can watch you please yes sir am I being in detain you are for the duration of this investigation can you step over here in front of my camera please sir I'm investigating a suspicious person don't play games with me okay I know what you're doing I'm engaged in lawful activ I know what you're doing your first amendment frauditor I get it that's constitutionally protected activity why am I being detain this is Officer Fischer from the Dothan Police Department on November 27th 2020 Jeff Gray a First Amendment auditor was filming outside the premises of Southeast Medical Center in Dothan Alabama Mr Gray aimed to demonstrate how the ambulances were ignoring the stop signs on the road as he kept filming the vehicles around he was approached by the security guard of the the medical center the guard argued that he was not allowed to film around the premises Mr Gray disagreed with him and continued to film the guard returned while he called the cops on the scene watch how an encounter unravels between the cops and Mr Gray why you video I'm sorry who are you I'm security with the hospital okay what's your name Daniel Daniel okay yeah just video tape can't videotape um I beg to dier why cuz I'm standing on public sidewall well that's true but why you videotaping the hospital uh I'm just curious about what's going on I'm doing investigatory surveillance with who with me it's an on it's an ongoing investigation so I don't want to give up any uh tip my hand or anything like that but I will say that um ambulances tend to run the stop sign every single time so I guess I kind of tipped my hand a little bit there but okay how you doing can you come over here in front of my car so my camera can watch you please yes sir am I being detained you are for the duration of this investigation can you step over here in front of my camera please sir I'm investigating a suspicious person don't play games with me okay I know what you're doing I'm engaged in lawful activity I know what you're doing your first amendment frauditor I get it that's constitutionally protected activity why am I being detained because you're creating a disturbance all right step over here this is Constitution protected you cannot make it a crime sir you are creating a disturbance inating the disturbance what's your name and badge number officer fer 1146 I'm with P Services listen I got my ID in my pocket if you want to see you don't dictate what happens here I need to talk to you the me talk to you okay the law and the Constitution dictates what happens I'm on a public sidewalk stop game it's okay why you even here I don't want to play with this game with you if you know my game intentionally creating a disturbance in order to create a lawsuit that's what you want to do I get that I acknowledge that that is your profession I understand that is how you make your money doing my job what I Viola you're creating a disturbance and you're bothering folks over here I investigate why officer fiser from the Dothan Police Department showed up at the scene after the guard called Mr Gray was well within his rights to film the cops and the ambulances since the matter was of public interest under the First Amendment for those who don't know the first amendment protects the freedom of speech which includes the right to film or record in public spaces officer Fisher during the encounter doesn't seem to provide Mr Gray the chance to explain why was he filming observe what happens next so what I'm going to do is do a report on this incident to rule you out as potential stalker for one of the employees if any of these employees get their vehicles damaged or anything I need to know where to look CU it's not normal for somebody to be filming people exiting a hospital for all I know listen let me talk I'm talking not you goe for all I know you are stalking somebody at the hospital either I don't know that I don't know you I'm not don't know that so you don't have any reasonable grounds but I have to investigate I'm engaged aw conally protected activ I'm going to be on my way I'm leaving right now I need your driver's license I'm leaving right now no I'm doing a report because I don't know what you are or what you're doing if I don't give you my driver's license what's going to happen Okay listen sir I ask you a simple question expain to you I've told you investigating aous person who is causing a disturbance the ambulance is constantly running the stop sign private Hospital the ambulance was running the stop sign I don't know you okay I don't know if that's the truth you might be stalking or harassing an employee or a patron at the hospital be doing a report officer fiser claims that if Mr Gray does not provide his identification details he will arrest him for obstruction however for those who don't know the fifth amendment protects individuals from being compelled to incriminate themselves which includes the right to remain silent and not provide identifying information to law enforcement watch how the interaction ends my name is Jeff I work with P new Services go ahead and R you I'm you further provide me with your driver's license I don't have my driver's license okay my name is Jeff I've asked you several times to step in front of my car the camera okay stand right there all right now if you don't have a driver's license then I don't care I'm not here to harass you about being on the sidewalk I want this video camera behind you to watch you okay I want it to be catching all of this interaction you have yours that's great that's cool I look forward to seeing myself on YouTube again back to work all right no I got to do my job you have caused me to come here that's what you've done so now I'm here performing my duties can I you're not going to interfere with my duties can I explain to you what I you're going to be providing me with your social security number your driver's license number if you know it your date of birth your address and your full name am I free to go no you are not why am I being explain to you several times investigating a suspicious person am I going to be arrested if I don't you are starting to interfere with my investigation I've explained to you I have to do a report on this and that's what I'm going to be doing so don't make this a crime allow this to be what it is where I do a report on the incident and that's it okay but if you want to interfere with me doing that my job I want you to do I want you your job is my and prot obstructing governmental operations do you have any questions about that no I do not okay good I'm going to be removing my notepad I'm going to request that information for you going to provide it I'm not pro not you don't provide it then I have already explained to you what I'm here what I'm doing what I'm investigating and the fact that I'm going to be doing a report which is part of my job and if you don't provide the information that I'm asking for for that report because you have caused this situation and me to be brought here yes you will be arrested for obstructing my name is Jeff under duress stand by I need to get my notepad this doesn't have to be this way I know who you are I know what you're doing okay I know so you know who I am you know what I'm doing you know that I'm engaged intially protected activity don't you speciic your qualified immunity is gone dude fer Fisher you're qualified immunity window suspicious person qualified suspicious you qualified you say all you want to there recording ambulances will you be quiet for a second for me to TA please this is can I tell you what I'm trying officer Thomas I'm not worried about what the reason I was up there is that about you're ambulances are running not here for you ambulances are running the stop sign amulet are running the stop sign I'm documenting that that's why I'm doing my name is Jeffrey Marcus gr Jeffrey how do you spell Jeffrey j e FF r y and I'm doing this under protest under duress and under threat of arrest threat explanation I've given you an explanation no you just said if I don't give you give this information your middle name Sir Marcus Marcus n RC us that's correct last name is spelled g r a y g r a y correct born January 8th 1970 187 where do you live uh I'm from St Augustine St Augustine yeah is that in Florida yep what brings you up to Dothan to film this uh I'm not answering you for the question providing my name my data birth that's fine that's all I'm giving and I've told you the reason I'm going film it is to film you say that in St Augustine uh I'm not giving any more permission again I'm conducting an investigation on a suspicious person and if you are in fact conducting harassing somebody stalking somebody planning to assault Somebody by filming their uh freaking daily activities so she can plan your assault I want know where you live so I can go and get you if that end ends up happening so what's your address my address is 190 when am I free to what's your phone number I'm have to give you my phone number man hey look I'm doing a report it's one of my little things to get this report approved that it has your phone number you don't want to provide me your phone number that's fine what's your social I'd rather not give you a social either well I have to positively identify you so what's your social you don't have a driver's license or I would use that I don't have my driver license okay then that's what I would normally use but since you don't have that I have to use me there's all these people standing around step over here and go ahead and give it to me quietly so that way nobody hears do you want to put your phone on mute so YouTube doesn't hear no I'll just edit that out oh okay all right I got to get back to work man I'm only on my lunch break so the longer this takes the longer the worse it is on you the worse it is on me I'm going to run here okay you guys have body camers Mr yes I'm still waiting on a return of your information in the meantime I'm going to go go and explain to you well actually first have I need to know were you on the sidewalk the entire time yes sir sidewalk so I'm going to advise you all right the hospital owns that side of the road and this parking lot and they don't want you on the property okay so obviously you know as well as I do that sidewalks and public roadways are obviously sidewalks and public roadways where you're allowed to be take up too much your time I'm just waiting on this return as long as they don't take too long I'll get you on the way if they start taking too long I'm going you you got um body camera and dash camera yes sir I do as goes my part catch trying to put my hands I don't have any weapons on me I'm just going to get my you to go have a good rest of your day I dropping one of my carts down here may I retrieve that yeah go ahead okay which way can I go to not I'm good to go up here go down as long as you stay off the hospital property you get to go sir all there's a sidewalk that runs along the hospital I'm not sure if that I'll just stay on this side of it however you just all right after taking Mr Gray's details he was allowed to leave without any further complications it is not certain whether Mr Gray plans to pursue any legal action against officer Fischer if you think Mr Gray's actions were the maximum a citizen can stand up for their rights then probably you have't watched this next case but have I suspected a commit the crime for legal reason that's a traffic stop that's a traffic issue do me favor step write me a ticket so I can go by my way I'm not stepping out the vehicle bro I didn't do nothing I didn't do absolutely nothing step if you pull me out this vehicle I'm going to file a lawsuit bro this is Officer belush from the Cumberland Police Department on May 19th 2023 officer belush accompanied by several officers pulled over an individual in Cumberland Maryland allegedly for not stopping before exiting the gas station's parking observe how the encounter unravels as the deputies approach the driver why would I [ __ ] make a complete stop when there's oncoming traffic that just sounds [ __ ] stupid he pulled in the [ __ ] parking lot the whole time watching me we're going to do a scan of the vehicle so you don't mind step out of the vehicle um what for what have I been suspected of commender crime we we can scan any vehicle we want as long as but have I suspected a commit crime for legal reason so that's a traffic stop that's a traffic issue do me favor step out the write me a ticket so I can go by my way I'm not stepping out the vehicle bro I didn't do nothing out of theic I didn't do absolutely nothing tell you to step out of the if you pull me out this vehicle I'm going to file a lawsuit bro you violate my rights to do that if you don't step out I out car well you going to have to take me out I'm not I'm not legally getting out my vehicle when I haven't done anything wrong absolutely nothing I pulled over the other morning going to work for my headlight right I fixed it you want to check it I fix it if you can pull that up I fix the headlight okay I just came from I just came from my house get gas got me a soda got my oil Chang I seen you pull into the [ __ ] sheets iBall in the car the whole time I don't know why y'all keep pulling me over I'm out here working cuz I'm in a [ __ ] Union that's why I got Mississippi taged that's the whole reason you pulling me over I drive the other car you pull me over in it you pull my old lady over in it all right well if you ridiculous you step out we're going to scan the car what you going to scan the car for you can look and see there ain't nothing in the car okay are you giving me consent to search the vehicle no I'm not giving you nothing okay then step out of the vehicle no I'm not call your supervisor man call your supervisor I want to speak to your supervisor please call your supervisor call your supervis call your supervisor I'm telling you pull me out the car you [ __ ] up that's all I'm telling you my people's work in mlan in mlan Virginia I'm telling you you P me out the car you [ __ ] up you're making a big mistake the officers expressed their interest in searching the vehicle despite the driver claiming that he hadn't committed any wrongdoings for those who don't know the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution protects citizens against unreasonable searches and seizures watch what the officers are about to do next the issue is you're making a big mistake for a legal reason you stopped me cuz you said I pulled out no you didn't come to the car you didn't come to the car and say sir you smell like alcohol you smell like marijuana none of that none of that you just go to your car telling me I you pulling me over for a traffic stop go to your car and then 10 police [ __ ] pull up like I'm supposed to be [ __ ] scared or something I didn't been through this plenty of my life I'm not stepping out of [ __ ] I'm not stepping out of [ __ ] that's my right dude you don't know your [ __ ] you don't I'm done talking I'm done talking you going to step out of the car now I'm not stepping out of [ __ ] no no okay give me your supervisor let me and him talk all right cool your sergeant whoever's in charge okay it's [ __ ] I'm not stepping out of [ __ ] once I step out the vehicle I lose my rights I'm not [ __ ] stupid what rights would you whatever dude you're being recorded we're being recorded so you're more than welcome to record I know I am that's my right too okay so I wrot let me roll down the window for him so he can see he can smell everything's [ __ ] clean this my work vehicle you see my fishing po I like the fish you been fishing I'm about to go buy me a [ __ ] boat soon you're the wrong button there buddy yeah look in there ain't nothing in here but work stick tools fishing poles a battery from my truck that I just sold charge it up for this guy that's it I don't do nothing whatever y'all perception is why y'all keep pulling me over it's going to [ __ ] stop after today it's going stop falling traffic rules I'm falling traffic rules well if I haven't followed traffic rules check my driving record check my driving record just because that that that tells you a lot if I haven't yes it does yes it does y'all on 68 every all day so I follow my traffic rules dude so I have way more tickets y'all just [ __ ] with me for no reason which I'm with it cuz I need some money for free money you want to give it to me I'm going to get it so I don't need the money I work for a living list out the car what you doing no you don't no you don't I haven't did anything wrong sir I haven't did anything wrong I let y'all slide on on8 uh 68 when y'all pull me in my little girl out the car one night I let y'all have that that officer he's no longer working with you guys I let y'all have that I let y'all have I didn't F and I really had y'all to the left then dead to the left I didn't my auntie told me you say I'm not getting out the car man I ain't did nothing what you want me do I have a warrant all right then the reason we want I a't did nothing listen to me I haven't did nothing listen to me and I'll explain this I'm listening the reason we want you out of the vehicle is because it is their policy that the occupants of the vehicle have to be out of the vehicle while they do the K9 what they doing the K9 scan for we can scan any vehicle we want for what so why didn't the lady that uh pulled me over the other morning why didn't she do the same process I have no idea I wasn't there and my headlight was out and I haven't done anything wrong anything different officers hey you would been that back there eyeballing me and and go around the corner you would have seen me the dog ain't alerting nothing he came to the they pulled me over for it's just an illegal stop sir if you're the sergeant or Lieutenant what they pull you over he said he pulled me over because I didn't stop coming out of sheets which is stupid there's traffic coming why wouldn't I stop sir why wouldn't I stop do do me a favor take take the keys out of you first of all he pulled in looking at my vehicle while I'm pumping gas are you the sergeant not that'sa for what we're doing this is a traffic stop why can't he just write me a ticket and I go by my way he has indicat want R for what though for what is the reason what do we typically run drugs okay but he haven't said anything about drugs when he come to the car he never said once he suspected me doing anything sir why why is it necessary for us to argue about this it's not if you have if you have nothing in because if I'm telling you I hav't done anything wrong and he's saying that I have it's his word against mine I haven't done anything so then if you have nothing absolutely wor about you can let them do their job here and you can go about your business they can scan the car around I'm not getting out though once the dog alerts they it ain't going to alert well that that you just just automatically saying the dog's going tot that's what you're saying you're on camera I said if no you're pretty much telling me that that's I said if the dog that's like you're pretty much saying you you're just telling me what you going to do weather weight it don't matter what y'all do man there's nothing in the vehicle can you can you at least turn your ignition off on it there's nothing in the vehicle so you're just going to want to violate my rights go ahead and violate them yes it is you you just going to violate the right you can open the back door and let them in if you want your you can open the door and let them in they searching to put the K9 around the car y'all what reason I don't know didn't say anything about nothing when he pulled me over but all of a sudden he want me out of my vehicle to search my car when I have done anything wrong nothing absolutely nothing absolutely nothing this is my work vehicle I fish in it I work on people [ __ ] I just got a oil change look just got a oil change Rec just 10 minutes ago and he going to tell me I pull out of the sheeps without stopping when there's [ __ ] oncoming traffic what sense does that make you tell me this is America we living in right where you been fishing at Ain we're good this is America this is [ __ ] [ __ ] they going to violate me like this [ __ ] I'm a taxpaying [ __ ] citizen this is what we got to deal with inica America it's [ __ ] I shouldn't have to go through this shouldn't have to [ __ ] go through I didn't go to work because I was [ __ ] sick today when got blood working [ __ ] done got my oil changed and now I have to deal with some stupid [ __ ] like this kermel and PD no wonder they got the petition out on that [ __ ] ass officer whoever the [ __ ] he is it's going to be some more some lawsuit coming free [ __ ] money by the way sir I've been fishing that Jennings Randol Lake's it I catching some big ass bass I'm about to go buy me a boat here shortly soon as y'all let me go and that's how we doing yes sir I'm the K9 guy yep I just scanned the vehicle he alerted didn't no yeah cuz obviously now cuz I mentioned he was he didn't it's [ __ ] man nothing against you personally nothing at all it's just the way y'all treat people out here for absolutely nothing is ridiculous and it has nothing to do with you person be careful got a bus coming through what's your officer what's your name sir Puch b a l u c h he's been cool you can finish what you was telling me uh so sorry uh oh good cut you off bro so like I said dog didn't alert to the vehicle but I always interview anybody after I scan whether a dog alerts or not just cuz I want to make sure the dog's doing what he's supposed to so there's never running any any drugs in the car or nothing like that no all right work for me no drugs in the car sir this is my work car where you work at I work for triton construction you see that that um one way they putting in downtown down in Baltimore they put we putting in a oneway street I work for that company but I'm I'm on the hagertown side we building the bridge out on 70 [ __ ] a fleet vehicle then what do you mean by that like I just seen the Missouri place you from Miss no it's Mississippi I'm with the Union so I travel for work okay all right man apprciate I'm free to go the offic will be with here okay but as far as the dog stuff you're you're done they just have to finish your warning or whatever they're doing and then you're thank you sir n they don't need to give me no warning he need to write me a [ __ ] ticket cuz they keep giving me warnings but he keep saying I keep violating the law sorry with your warning here that's another warning I've done nothing I don't feel like another warning tiets but here's your warning yep here's your information yep have a good day yep I'm on my way to the pre now following the K9 dog's inspection of the vehicle's exterior no unusual items were detected consequently the deputies issued the driver a written warning and permitted them to depart from The Scene It remains uncertain whether the driver intends to Lodge a complaint against the officers involved in the traffic stop if you think this was the last citizen who stood up for their rights then probably you aren't aware of this next case I'm sitting on the power lines or sitting on a public Street what's that I'm sitting on a public Street minding my business that's all I'm doing yeah okay well we got a call for suspicious vehicle we're just checking on set vehicle are you the owner of the cor sir I'm sorry I'm not going to ask any questions this is Officer Reeves from the Upper chitester Township Police Department on December 14th 2023 officer Reeves and Sergeant brain Gilmore responded to an alleged call that reported a suspicious vehicle that was parked along the public Street somewhere in Upper chitester Pennsylvania watch how the encounter follows between the driver of the vehicle and officer Reeves and Sergeant Gilmore [ __ ] for this Hey sir how you doing I'm good how are you I'm good I'm off Township police Department reason we're here is we got to call for a suspicious vehicle okay someone pass her by or whomever called said it was a white vehicle sitting on the power lines I'm sitting on the power lines or sitting on a public Street what's that I'm sitting on a public Street minding my business that's thought I'm doing yeah okay well we got a call for suspicious vehicle we're just checking on set vehicle are you the owner of the car sir I'm sorry I'm not going to ask any questions I invoke my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent can I get a badge number 51 supervisor's badge number too yes please it's uh 37 and his name Sergeant Brian Gilmore Brian Gilmore okay would you like to speak to him as well no thank you okay I just want to mind my business man people drive by here see me parked here doing nothing wrong Amendment right not talk to us yes cuz I'm not doing anything illegal right Officer Gilmore persistently requests the driver to identify himself yet the driver declines citing protection under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution officer Gilmore asserts that the driver must provide identification as per the state vehicle code since he is operating a vehicle however given that the vehicle is currently idle and not actively being operated this law may not be applicable in this situation let's observe how the encounter unfolds literally just parked in a public Street what's that sge sge requesting your ID I'm not going to provide that I didn't commit any crimes I'm parked legally in a public Street doing nothing wrong nothing okay all right what's that he says new to the ID he's parked on public Street doing nothing wrong that's right okay well just because somebody called in a suspicious car mhm doesn't mean you're doing anything illegal the they specifically identify something illegal that I was doing I I trespassing point at this point the reason we're requesting the identification sure is number one we to identify everybody we talk to it's part part of our routine it's accepted and it's it's something that's been it's been it's been approved by the Supreme Court the state and the United Supreme Court it's not been approved by any Supreme Court okay all right well unless youe all you want but just because you think so doesn't unless you have reasonable suspicions of a crime okay I don't have to provide any ID sir but you're you're on one of our streets in our town and in order for you to leave you're going to have to be legally able to drive who pay who pays for these streets sir excuse me who pays for the street Upper triester Township the Township right the people is a taxpayer fund the street right and I that means I can park here I can travel through here also I can stop on the streets it's not illegal for me to do that did I commit an infraction say you're doing anything illegal at this point investigating a suspicious I'm not providing any idea if I didn't commit anything illegal if I didn't do anything illegal there's no law there but then you heard me there's an investigation that you have to conducted yes so far in your investigation what have you concluded that I've have done refusing to provide ID that's not illegal am I am I under arrest under the vehicle code am I under arrest huh you're not you may be and we'll have to find that out are you threatening me with arrest am I threatening you no I am not threatening you well I am telling you that if I have to do my job I do my job that's an entirely different thing sir well conduct your job I'm not providing any ID because I didn't commit any crimes you don't need to commit a crime for us to ask you to yes you do yes you do yes you do you need R without R there's no problem cause I have somebody that called in that this vehicle's been sitting here time so if someone calls in here a black guy is sitting here is that said anything about you being black well I'm saying if they do is that illegal do can you just come here and they say you were a p Flamingo either so but I'm not providing any ID Where Do We Go From Here I didn't do anything illegal are you threatening me with arrest I'm telling you that you need to provide identification you're part provid any point you are required do your investigation go and talk to the person who called and find out what I did that was illegal talk to them do your investigation do a Thor investigation you just don't come here and talk to me talk to them see what I did because they called to talk to them I didn't do anything wrong you're not going to force me to identif but do an investigation to see if I did firstep my investigation is requiring you to provide I'm not providing any they did nothing wrong I'm sitting on a public streets you don't have the right to just pull up on me and say hey I need because someone called it doesn't work like that came here because what you did it is not sir you pulled up here because someone called and say hey I need identification doesn't work like that I'm not providing it can I have your supervisor please I am the supervisor I want your supervisor lieuten my supervisor is the chief we don't have a lieutenant I'm sorry you're welcome to go to the police station and talk to the chief I don't have to I'm not doing anything illegal I'm parking a public Street until the laws of America change where we have to identify because our officer comes and say hey give me identification well you need to work on on reading reading up on the court I know exactly it says okay what does it say I know what it says I have a First Amendment right to record I have a Fourth Amendment right said you let me let me finish I have a Fourth Amendment right to to to be safe in my effect my my my documents and papers unless I commit a crime I do not have to into F I'm not unreasonably searching or seizing anything at this point you're trying to yes you're trying to my ID I'm asking you to provide identification it's part of my job and I'm respectfully ref I'm refusing it and in the state of Pennsylvania if you're in a operating a motor vehicle which is what you're doing I'm not operating a motor vehic abely I'm parked on a public Street you in command and control of the vehicle I'm parked on a public street you were under the influence of alcohol or another drug I can arrest you for DUI but you're not I'm parked on a public Street okay good that's what I'm doing here you're parked on a public Street doing nothing illegal you're the subject of an investigatory detention okay can I can I get a can I get a kiss somewhere please can I can I get a can I get a case number nope I need a case number I want this documented okay we do you're welcome to go to the police station and request a report we're not going to know who you are cuz you didn't provide us any ID I don't have to can I get a case number nope you're not providing me the case number that's correct okay well then you're not getting any ID okay what's the next step um you'll probably get a citation for failure to provide driver's license oh yeah let's go ahead go ahead go ahead let's do that let's do that you're Tyrant that's what you are you threatening me yes for doing nothing wrong [ __ ] out of here kill more Yep hey what do you want him I'm not talking to you this guy here you're not talking to him you're talking to me I'm speaking to him sir I'm allow he's a he's funded by the taxpayer what do you need sir can I get an incident number please I don't have an incident number yet you're not get can you call the dispatcher and give me a dis incident number I'd like to docent this our police station and grab the incident number you're not providing incident number I don't have an incident number until I go back and do the report I can't just pull one out of thin air all right let me he doesn't have one either and that's super I just want to talk to him it's just fine 849 going to harass me my dog for doing nothing wrong stay away from your dog I'm not I'm not stay away from the dog I'm not approaching the dog you walk right close to the car is it illegal to be close to the car I don't want you to get hurt I don't want you to be surprised dog smack up against the door is closed I'm not going to be surprised I'm sorry sh hey can I come under hey do you do you mind give me inent number please y that's all I wanted name is clap badge number is 44 thank you clap hey have a good one I just want incident number literally that's all we don't generate in in the number until it clears until it clears what like the call radio system y you're about to clear it I would assume you can get it tomorrow okay so no Police Department no not right now all right yep 842 all right I just walked next to the car again is that illegal car four it is not clear whether officer Gilmore or officer Reeves issued the driver a citation during the stop it is also not certain whether the driver plans to pursue any sort of action against officer Reeves and Sergeant Gilmore it is devastating to see cops suppressing the rights 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