Hello. How are you? >> Good. >> Doing okay. I'm officer with the Glendale police. The reason I got you stopped was for your speed. Is everything okay? >> Yeah. >> Your top speed locked in on radar was 50. Speeding through here is only 30. >> Where about? >> Huh? >> Where about? >> Like where did I clock you? >> Where about? >> I don't know what you're asking. >> Where about? >> I was saying that I slowed down the stop sign got to 50. >> So when you were coming through that intersection with the green light, we crossed past and that's where I locked you in on radar. Do you have your license with you today? Do you have a license at all? >> I can't hear you. Where is it? >> Why not? You know you're required to, right? >> Hey, what's your last name? >> Dylan. >> D O. >> Okay. Step out of the vehicle. >> What? Because you're being uncooperative. >> I give you my name. >> Okay. Hey, do you think I can run your name without a date of birth? >> Yes. >> You said you weren't going to answer any more questions. >> I asked the question you asked me. You can write your name right there. >> I can't run that name without a date of birth. And if you're not going to ask any more [clears throat] questions, I'm going to take you back, arrest you, and bring you back to my police department and identify you that way. So, do you want to answer some more questions? >> Why? >> Because I'm going to arrest you if you're not going to ask answer any more questions. arrest me for asking more questions >> because I can't identify you if you're not going to name identify. >> How do I identify that name? You don't think there's any other people with that name in the entire United States? >> Not responsible. >> Okay. So, I need your date of birth to be able to confirm your identity. So, if you want to give me that, excellent. If you don't, I'm going to have you step out. I'm going to arrest you. >> Sounds good, dude. I don't care. >> Hey, y'all funny. Can we just get along so we have a good night? We don't know. >> I don't know what this dude's problem is. going to stop you with speed and you're acting like it's the biggest crime of the century. >> Yes. All right. >> All right. I need to see your proof of insurance and registration for the vehicle as well. >> How are you doing today? >> I was doing okay. >> Already >> go ahead and grab your registration and proof of insurance. That's not answering any questions. That's doing what you're lawfully required to do. >> That's not a question. It's a question. >> No, it's it's an order. Give me your proof of insurance and registration for the vehicle. It's not a question. It's an instruction. So, you don't want to provide any of that information. You just want to be cited for it. How many citations you trying to get today? >> All right. Sounds good. You'll get all the tickets then. >> None. >> We'll make sure you lose your license tonight. No. Hey. No, sir. >> No. This dude wants to be hard for some reason. This could have been very simple, but you want to make it a big deal. All right. Remain in the vehicle. Do you have it? Do you have it? >> All right. So, what's your real name? >> No, you didn't. The name you gave me and date of birth does not come back on file. All right. So, let's try it again. You said your last name is Kernney, correct? >> Huh? I'm confirming what you told me. >> All right, go ahead and exit the vehicle. >> No, we're past this. Exit the vehicle. Step back here. Stop reaching in your pockets. >> Face towards your back of your vehicle. >> Face towards your vehicle. Place your hands behind your back. >> Stop resisting, >> dude. I'm going to tease the out. You can keep doing that. Where's the right to get arrested? >> You're being detained until I can identify who you are. Stop moving. Now, do you want to give me your correct name or no? Or do you just want to be arrested? >> You're already under arrest. >> You're being detained. I told you. >> What's your real name? Stop reaching in your pockets. >> I'm going to reach it. I'll pass. >> What's your real name? >> All right. You're under arrest. You okay? >> Face towards the squad. Stop moving. acting like aing 42, go stop that car. >> Hey, GO STOP for the passenger on my vehicle. off with the vehicle. >> 74 is in pursuit of that uh flight transit. I think the the highway should be shut down. I think 742 pursuit of that white transit. That was on 794 stop. We are south on I43. We are approaching the three bay night. Notify Milwaukee that is going to be getting off at Capital Bay. >> Where do you stop to come from? Cuz she's not free to leave. No, she's going to jail, too. >> Yeah, she's going to jail. She just fled from a traffic stop. >> Speeds are 97. Looks like it's be getting off. The highway shut down here. >> Please shut off. >> Stop moving. >> Why are they moving you? Touching me. Driving. >> Stay still. Keep walking away from me. >> 748 on secondary. We're still half a mile from Green Bay. There's no traffic. The speeds are 90. The roads are dry. >> I have to get arrested. You just at any point did I say she was free to leave. >> You just arrested me. >> So that means she can go. >> No, it doesn't. Does it? >> What in the world? >> She's going to jail for sure now, dude. You guys want to act stupid? >> Act stupid in jail. >> 748. We're down to 175 about a quarter mile. >> 748. We're on the offramp currently. >> Sit down. >> And now she's fleeing, too. Is that all cool? Is that what you wanted >> for her to go to jail tonight on a felony? 48 on the off track currently. 48 cut over the median here. 48. I don't have eyes at the moment. Either one east or west on temp. Either one east or west on >> east I believe. South on 10th stopping. Smil black white shirt jeans running. You got you hear >> Hey, GET DOWN. COME HERE. I GOT HIMSELF NOW. SHOW YOUR ASS. GET BACK. SHOW YOUR ASS. All right. He went east through the yards. I mean west through the yards. He's somewhere down there. Hey, get on your stomach. On your stomach. On your stomach. >> On your stomach. Hands on your back. HANDS ON YOUR BACK. ONE IN CUSTODY. OH, my bad. I left. I didn't know if you knew. >> Car has not been cleared. >> I didn't see out. [laughter] I'M SORRY. >> I think that's the funniest thing I've heard in my life. Good one. >> Yeah, that's a good one. That is the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. I promise you I didn't see that behind. >> I promise you that's the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. Thank you for that. >> I promise you I did not see I promise you too. I really do. He's really going to believe you. What's your name, man? Are you okay? >> Yeah, I I I did not see y'all behind me. >> Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. >> You don't need any medical attention? >> No, no, no, sorry. >> Okay. You got an ID in here? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Can I ask her what's wrong? What's wrong? You're under you're arrest. That's what's wrong. >> Why are you arrest? You're under arrest because you uh for fleeing and for resisting obstruction. >> I'm the cause for resistance. >> I'm sorry. >> Go ahead. Clean up. >> Has no resistance. >> Come on. Clean up. >> Yeah. Can I ask you how's resistance? >> Yeah. Running is resisting. >> You said what? >> Running is resisting. >> I'm not okay. >> Hang tight. Stop talking. Stand still. Stop talking. Stop talking and stand still. No one believes you. Stop talking. Stand still. >> Okay, good. My life. >> It's 104. I just see a bunch of phones. Smell of marijuana and alcohol. >> Bro, do you know how many reports I had right already tonight? Now I got to write more. >> I'm telling you. >> Anything else? >> No, you don't. >> Shake your feet. >> What is it? >> Shake your feet. Spread your feet. Spread them. >> A couple houses. >> I'm telling you, I did not see that. >> Yeah, man. No one's gonna believe you. I just stopped talking probably. And >> I understand that, but I did not see when I did, I stopped. >> Yeah, I'm not going to lie. That scared me though. >> WHERE'S MY VEHICLE? Can I ask where's my vehicle? >> No, it doesn't really matter. It's where you left it. That's all I know. Have a seat. >> Alarm sounding. I'm just going to look in the backyards that he ran through and see if he ditched anything, I guess. >> Did you know he went east or >> Yeah. >> Damn. I should have went off the air. I You were going slow. So, I'm like, "Oh, boy." >> I was going slow cuz he was going slow. >> Oh, okay. >> But no, you didn't do it. You didn't do anything at home. >> No, I went west thinking that you lost him because we slowly went over that median. So, Oh, you know, that's why I went west. I I thought So, my bad. You want to search? >> Uh, yeah. Or do you want me to I'm going to look in here and see if you do anything really quick or do this first. >> Um, just do this first. Okay. >> Well, way did he run? He ran this way. >> Uh, yeah. I don't know if he went through here or here. >> Okay. Where did you see him? Like, did you see him go this way? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Did you follow him? >> No, I I run back. Okay. Gotcha. >> I have the driver in custody at the stop. >> Think you made some good decisions tonight? >> Y guy. What have you? I don't know. Reeks like booze in there. So that's what I'm assuming. >> We got a empty Ducardi gold driver side floorboard. I'm having trouble smelling. What do you think? Beer first? >> Yeah, I think so. >> Everything okay? I mean, far as safety for us. >> Yep. Every everyone that that fled is in custody. So >> Oh. Oh, it's a stolen car. >> Um I don't think it was actually stolen. I think they might have just been drunk. I'm not sure. >> Dum dums and come down to daddy and didn't even know it. >> Yep. Well, I don't think they planned on the freeway being closed down. >> Exactly. [laughter] Down. >> Have a good night. >> Thank you. >> As the initial driver got out, he threw some stuff back in the vehicle. I'm not sure what it was. >> Smell marijuana. Alcohol. >> Nothing exciting. >> No. >> Nice. >> The original driver's real name was identified as Dudley, not Devon Kernney. While he was charged with resisting, obstructing, and operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated, his wife Simone was charged with felony fleeing, eluding, felony secondderee recklessly endangering safety, resisting obstructing, and violation of probation or parole. Had she simply stayed in the vehicle, she would not have faced any charges. They are both presumed innocent unless proven [music] guilty in a court of law. Take a second and think back to what you just watched. Because sometimes the most important thing in a police encounter isn't what someone says. It's the small movement people think nobody notices. Now, if you look carefully around 3 minutes and 40 seconds in the video, the vehicle shifts while the officer is dealing with a driver outside, almost like someone inside is repositioning. Moments like that matter because officers are constantly scanning for small cues that tell them a situation is about to change. Researchers studying police pursuits call this the pucker factor. It's the moment adrenaline goes up, heart rate jumps, and vision narrows because the body is switching into survival mode. And studies on foot pursuits shows how intense those moments can be. In cities like Chicago and Philadelphia, nearly half of police shootings occur during or immediately after foot pursuits. moments when everyone involved is operating under extreme stress. That's why some research even recommends that when possible, a backup officer, not the one doing the chasing, should make the arrest because the pursuing officer is still coming down from that adrenaline surge. So, it looks like a simple bad decision in the moment can quickly push everyone into a place where the pressure is doing the talking. So the real question becomes, how many people realize the chain reaction they're starting before it becomes too