from a YouTuber asserting his fourth amendment rights outside a bank only to be arrested by Officer Thoren Savage to a First Amendment auditor clashing with Sergeant Dolan merely for filming at the Chicago Housing Authority here are five times idiot cops tried messing with educated civilians starting with a YouTuber's encounter that spiraled into an unlawful arrest what about the Fourth Amendment that's what you doing right now you ask me for my ID what about it I have rights to privacy sir I don't have to show my ID if I have committed a crime and then you said failure to ID I have to commit a crime first to show you my ID we out here failure to ID is a secondary crime I'm trying to expl I'm not educating you on you're not here you're not educating me cuz you're incorrect this is Officer Thoren Savage from the Grand View Police Department on November 4th 2024 a bank employee reports a man recording outside their building officers question the individual who is a YouTuber about his activities he explains that he is recording for personal interest and enjoys capturing Scenic Views Little did the YouTuber know that his rights were to be violated by the law enforcers okay well they're just concerned because apparently individual matching description has been doing this a lot in NB locations can you guys your name number time officer Savage gra view Police Department badge number 0315 thank you so much for being professional yes sir I'm just I'm just record I didn't even speak to nobody I know but they see you out here and they're concerned that you're possibly casing the place say that one more time casing the place i' rather roll the joint than case okay no I get that yeah so is there like is it like for a YouTube website or is it just recording just because you want to situation I'm just recording I was like one of the first actual real days of fall okay the temperature didn't dry well yesterday I guess was the temperature was down actually uh on Halloween just didn't feel that bad is the reason you just you're doing this building I was actually just walking all the way around just walking all the way around this building just walking around around the whole area okay is that fine that's fine they're just concerned so we're out here just talking to you well I have no ill intent nothing like that nothing nefarious going on be honest why do you want my ID that's all you want to do I am documenting no CRI the individual argues that he cannot identify himself since he has not committed any crime this might also be a legal move under the Fifth Amendment for those who don't know the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution defends the rights of citizens against unreasonable self-incrimination and according to this citizens can deny identification to law enforcement however watch what officer Savage does next while not caring to recognize his rights I have we've stood here for how long now how long have we stood here You' been here he's been here for 12 minutes you've been here for so for 12 minutes and a half for 12 minutes we just been having a cordial conversation except gone okay let me ask you a question did you feel like you have the right to leave at every moment of this conversation yeah you did yeah okay yes okay fair enough when I seen him com like like why would I run from you I didn't I'm not saying you were going to run so when you came I'm like let me just have a cordial conversation my thing is I love Shining Light on the police and whether you look good or bad that's on you I'm actually here to make you guys to show that you know the law I I do but here's the problem and you know you know the basic constitutional rights that's very clear what you what you haven't study is the case law that comes from that stuff thousands and thousands and thousands of police calls for service and contacts every single year and they all go just like this I do off okay but you don't know because you would know what I'm saying is accurate listen and this is just the basis we dealing with the First Amendment here a guy standing in public and nobody's stopping you from exercising I haven't as no I haven't asked you to stop recording I haven't we fully identified ourselves to your camera I haven't even told you you can't video the buildings so what about the Fourth Amendment what about it what about the Fourth Amendment CU that's what you're doing right now you ask me for my ID what what about it I have rights to privacy sir I don't have to show my ID if I haven't committed a crime and then you said failure to ID I have to commit a crime first show you my ID we out here you the ID is a secondary crime trying to I'm not educating you on 1 you're not here you're not educating me cuz you're incorrect you are incorrect so what is the Fourth Amendment what is the Fourth Amendment that's where we at right now this is the fourth amendment me recording is my first amendment you're asking me for my ID this is the fourth I'm going to arrest you at this point I'm not going to Res okay you're under arrest I'm under arrest you I'm not going to take that out of your hand yet for nothing dude all you had to tell me was your name I did nothing wrong one you you did and I've explained it to you and because you don't like it because you don't like it not the room okay so you're a First Amendment auditor probably probably got a YouTube channel think you're cool a bunch of followers don't understand the law like I you don't because I don't I don't come to your place of business and tell you how to do your job I'm not at your place of business you are I'm in you are at my place of business where do I operate all right for your safety for your safety in mind I'm going to pat you down do you have anything on you that hurt your I nothing on ain't nothing in my pocket about my cell phone where's your where's your idea I don't have ideaone keys what's your what's your last name what's your last name sir you said you arrested me I had right you need read me in my this is not a guilt seeking question and I don't need to read your friend right again you're incorrect okay what is your last name I have nothing on my I'm still required just to make sure for my safety yours identify yourself is only going to make your booking process take infinitely long taking we're not debating it at this point what is your last name what is your last name okay just idea at the jail or you'll sit there I have the right to remain siling I'm not asking you guilt seeking questions dude no your idea is not a guilt seeking question okay you need to do some more study andig guys okay sir did you collect this property yet uh no I don't have nothing on thank you got I am going to stop your recording our recording is going and you'll have access to that how do you stop that you going push the uh you already now what you you going to hold that left button this one here holding pushing and what's he going to do he's going to go on okay I want you to have battery and stuff on it left you know I don't want go ahead and take a seat in there all right lean back for me reach across the YouTuber was arrested and was charged with obstruction of justice he was placed inside the cop Cruiser after staying for 2 hours in a holding cell he was released if you think this was the only idiot cop who tried messing with educated civilians wait until you watch this next case this is public property this is not public property this building is privately owned okay it's privately owned this entity is public exactly but this building is privately owned you just answered my question land is privately own I am telling you this is public property trespass you can't trespass me from public property this is Sergeant Dolan from the Chicago Police Department in June 2024 a First Amendment auditor visited the Chicago Housing Authority to ask about a report that a resident was forced to vacate her residence for complaining about unsafe conditions in her building the auditor filmed his entire visit however the staff at the premises did not like being filmed watch how the situation is about to escalate I have to call them so no one can come down here and speak with me no fil can I not film in here not oh thank you are you are you a supervisor no I'm not you're not yes have to ask permission to film in here please uh no that's not true don't film me I don't want to be filmed I don't want to be in your camera okay I mean if if you're going to be rude if you're going to be rude about it then I'm going to record everything okay something related need I just had questions for any supervisor that's that's present fill the sheet and somebody will come and check with you in can you pleas that camera elsewhere ma'am if you if you keep telling me to do that then I'm not going to do that all right I have a right I have a right to record in public asking you not to fil me personally okay please point that elsewhere if you don't have any business with ch okay if you do you have questions you have to fill out please turn that camera off the more you can you call security up upstairs okay did you have an appointment I don't need an appointment to be here ma'am no you don't you you need some you can go ahead to letter sheet and please point that camera elsewhere actually that's why that's for the reason that I'm here too so she thinks that she can park orders heav me to leave a public space it's one thing to politely ask not to be on camera is a whole other thing to B orders at me and tell me to get out of public property that's that's when the camera stays on you man what's your name ma'am what's your name please don't come in here can you step away I asked you more than once not to film me what's your name thank you happy no did you call the security person you did okay you're making people very uncomfortable at this point this is a verbal trespass we're going to have to ask you to leave we refuse which you might will we'll just call CPD and you'll just end up waiting here until every may I have your name I will not be answering any questions this time you are trespassing do you work for the public I am not a law enforcement officer do not need to provide you right now do you work for the public I just said I I am not a law enfor officer do not need to provide you any information if you work for the public you need to identify yourself when you engage a member of the public this time you are trespassing please leave the building this is public property this is not public property this building is privately owned okay it's privately owned this entity is public exactly this building is is privately you just answered my question this land is privately open I am telling you this is public property trespassing you can't trespass me from public property can comment on one you can feel free to stand around until they at do what you want to do I'm telling you this is not private property okay you need to understand that which want the fact that you're ignorant about that is telling the auditor faces resistance from staff and Sergeant Dolan who asks him to stop recording claiming that he needs permission to fail and threatens him with trespassing allegations the staff argues that the building is private property while the auditor contends it is a public space due to its association with a public entity however shutting down filming in a public place can be a violation of the First Amendment for those who don't know the First Amendment grants citizens the freedom of speech and press chance locked up you now if you call yourself you have to call your supervisor when I ask for one [Music] sir okay so this this this sign that you guys just put up why did you just put up that sign hello yeah may I have your name and your B number the auditor was arrested after the cop showed up it is reported that he was charged with criminal trespass however not much update is available on this case if you think this was the maximum cops can try messing with educated civilians then probably you aren't aware of this next case hello hello hey were you trying to come over our wall here h no I look stupid no we me get you for one second cuz we had a call of a guy dressed in black was climbing up on our one of our walls there hell no a you guys got cameras uh-huh do you have an ID card with you let me call I'll call fling this is Officer Preston from the Port Orange Police Department on October 23rd 2020 the cops received some Intel from a third party regarding a man trying to climb the wall of the Port Orange Police Department after getting such news the cops began to search for the individual involved in doing so the cops thought they got their target however what they were about to discover was truly shocking hello hello hey were you trying to come over our wall here hell no I look stupid no we'll get you for one second cuz we had a call of a guy dressed in black that was climbing up on our one of our walls there hell no a you guys got cameras uh-huh do you have an ID card with you let me call I'll call [Applause] flaming hey sge can you call Fleming he's refusing to give his name or man I don't like cops I don't talk to Cops I don't deal with cops I was minding my business looking at my phone walking down the side and I was sto freely he stated to me that he was inside the lobby trying to make officer complaint figured out was closed so he left the office or I'm sorry the lobby and came onto the road I'm sorry the sidewalking came this way so he was trying to make a complaint but okay well I can help you with that no you can't yeah I can no you can't I'll be here Monday through Friday during business hour talk to a supervisor I am the supervisor I don't care well that's if you want to make an officer complaint I'm the guy to talk to put in writing you ain't going to do nothing you protect your BL line brother I don't care you're his blue line brother going do say what I said you protect your Blue Line brothers you ain't going to do sh based on what based on police that's what's based on You Don't Know Me based on every I don't need to know you you're a blue line that's all you are to me okay you don't give a damn about nobody but your other Blue Line people so we're trying you ain't trying to help me do [ __ ] you're right now you're harassing me on the side of the road am I being detained or am I free to leave you're free to go thank you call yall the man was approached while walking on a sidewalk after leaving the police station Lobby where he attempted to file his complaint he was forcefully asked to identify himself to which he repeatedly refused to do so as per the Fifth Amendment the the cops illegally obtained his identification through repeated threats watch how the encounter ends keep an eye on [Applause] him now you're detained for jaywalking running across CAD Morris like that how else am I going to cross that's what crosswalks are for there isn't a crosswalk within 150 ft I know you cross angle when there's no crosswalks within 150 ft you're detained you're illegally detaining me and now you have to identify yourself no I don't I want a supervisor I am the super I want your supervisor I didn't do anything wrong I committed no crimes I am not giving you my ID jaywalking is a traffic [Applause] infraction jaywalking is a traffic infraction I didn't jwalk for which you are lawfully detained I didn't jwalk actually you're unlawfully detaining me I do not jwalk I actually s myself yes I understand that you are allowed cross the street if there is not an intersection within 150 ft you're allowed to cross the stre at a 90° angle there was no traffic coming you were the closest traffic and you were far enough away from me I know exactly what I'm doing okay you cannot write me a ticket for jwalk you think I don't do this all the time I know exactly what I'm doing okay you cannot write me a ticket for jaywalking if I'm over 150 ft away from a crosswalk you know that you're only doing this to force my ID that's the only reason you're doing this cuz you're punk you want to know my name so you're going to get it one way or the other no matter how you have to do it cuz you're a tyrant I didn't make you run across the you're a tyrant you know what the laws are you know I didn't break no laws the individual was detained for alleged jaywalking despite arguing that there were no nearby crosswalks and that he complied with traffic rules however several minutes after the detention he was eventually released from handcuffs however he was still cited for jaywalking and was taken to court where he was found guilty despite discrepancies in the officer reports and video evidence if you think this was the height of idiocy by cops who tried messing with educated civilians then you probably haven't watched this next case because this is a police station this is this is a private lot how is it a private lot the the uh police station is a public public building but yes there's certain areas where you're you can and cannot go you understand it's a private lot so like if the officer tells you that you're not supposed to be here if you don't have any Police business you don't have any business here that's then yes you are you you technically will be trespassing that's not how he works these are officers from the Chicago Police Department in May 2024 a First Amendment auditor visited the Chicago Police district to conduct an audit he primarily wanted to check employees conduct and film the interaction to post it on his YouTube channel watch how the cops are to behave and whose conduct is about to be monitored what's up hey how's it how's it going how are you good may I have your name Sergeant Master right here on my what's your B number it's right here on my shirt I I can't can you 2 435 you got it thank you so what do we what do we need today uh nothing much just um a gathering content for a story that's all story yes okay yeah that's it I I don't have any ill intent or I'm sure I understand that yeah I mean he thinks this is a private property this is private property correct how is it private property because this is a police station this is this is a private lot how is it a private lot the the uh police station is a public enti public building but yeah there's certain areas where you're you can and cannot go you understand it's a private lot so like if the officer tells you that you're not supposed to be here if you don't have any Police business you have any business here that's then yes you are you you technically willon be trespassing that's not how it works this is a this is a public space Sorry every member of the public has a right to be here to observe what you do what you do what you do yes they're in the cause of your duties all right so you cannot trespass this this is a private lot you understand I'm notifying you right now you keep saying it's a private lot this is private yes how can it be private it's a police department there it's a police station only Public Access is in of the building there is no there's nothing private about this space let me explain on the so if you decide not to leave and we arrest you for the trust passing then you can explain to the judge that this is a a private lot and public lot you can have that argu with the judge okay not with us so you're telling me that if if I don't if I don't leave this space you will you will arrest me for trespassing is that what you just said yes the officers present incorrectly assert that the area is private property and threaten the individual with trespassing the individual calmly asserts that public spaces cannot restrict access without legal cause and requests a supervisor for clarification observe how rude is the supervisor's conduct okay is that okay for you that's what you just said you understand I well I am telling you you understand yes this is not a private space this is a public I this is not the first this is not the first um do you have a supervisor I understand you're being recorded yes do you have a supervisor I am a supervisor is anyone above you my supervisor yes please okay going to go get is that him behind you no somebody okay yeah can you get your supervisor because you're completely wrong am I you're completely wrong this is a public space how do you how do you understand this because first of all you cannot trespass anyone from a public space unless they broken the law I haven't broken the law all I'm doing is simply observing public employees during the course of their duties the courts have have established that we can do that okay all right so if you know the law right you understand the law I understand some some some basic rights you understand trespassing you understand it right I understand trespasses but what you fa you another warning another warning I'm issuing you right now is that you you can't be on this lot okay otherwise we're going Tock you up for okay I'm going to speak with your supervisor I'm going to speak with your supervisor apparently wants to talk to you you're may I speak with you in the uniform are you his supervisor who is he a supervisor which one which one the the one in the plane clothes yeah who who is your supervisor's in the building okay I'll wait for him that's someone someone wants to watch this I don't get it doesn't make any sense boring to me very boring there's a lot of people that watch it there's a lot of people that there's a lot of people that care about what government does does that make sense right all right buddy you can't trespass me from public property man you need you need to learn a law that's why I do what I do what's your name what's your badge number what's your badge number9 I appreciate it every one of you needs to be educated that this is public property taxpayers have a right to be here and watch you and you and all of you during the course of your duties the encounter ended with the officers including the supervisor acknowledging the individual's right to remain on the premise and record the auditor left the scene and no citations or charges were filed against him if you think these were the last of idiot cops who tried to mess with educated civilians then you probably haven't heard of this last case you don't know how to you don't P I don't have one right now on me not to be rude man but you don't pay me to do a job we actually pay you to do yours these are officers from the Sacramento County Sheriff's Office in December 2021 several Auditors visited the sacr Sheriff's Department's Central division to request complaint forms as physical copies however the staff told them that the forms are available online watch how this prompted a verbal Skirmish between the Auditors and the cops you can do that online so you guys offer nothing as far as physical copies you can actually print one out for us if yeah oh really yeah you want to show me how you don't know how to PR you don't I have one right now not to be rude man but you don't pay me to do a job we actually pay you to do yours oh no they're all circled around me in front I've got 1 two three four five six cameras pointing at me right Sheriff Department would you like to know how to get uh follow complaint I'd actually like you to uh print out a paper for me so I could get so you can go down here what if we don't have internet access sir what if we don't have internet access yeah we don't have internet access not not not everybody out there has internet access right right okay so that's why that's why um we ask in paper here with your cameras are recording me ask me I see the staff argued that they felt uncomfortable in being recorded however the sergeant came onto the scene to deescalate the situation watch how the encounter concludes howy hi excuse me fellas what's going on hello how are you they're asking for what my mind they don't have access all right we just just ask for a simple complaint for him and uh he says that we can go look for it online but I told him not everybody has access to the internet and uh that's why you know when we ask for a complaint for him you know he can easily print one out really is no reason for uh any uh escalation or anything like that you yeah that makes any sense yeah we can get you complaint for but the escal 1 2 3 4 5 six people come in what do you think wa a minute a minut and then two of us walk in and you go whoa what's going on us no nobody said nobody did that anyway go back and grab what what Complaint Form are you compl form and record request please record that's not here that's that's a record you can do that what is uh uh are you talking about a county claim for what's the complaint um just on a just on a Deputy okay that's uh you can talk to me I'm a supervisor no we actually we would like to stay Anonymous and we would like to actually fill out the take it with us fill out the complaint form and then turn it in when we would like yeah you got there is there isn't this isn't the right place for that but there's uh Sheriff Department well it's it's the Central division of the sheriff's department what you guys are talking about is our Professional Standards Bureau I don't the sheriff department is actually located at 4500 uh Orange Grove so what is the purpose of this building here so we have we have six different divisions so this is you the Count's big this is our Central Division so this is just the office for just this Division if you if you guys want to go uh if you don't have access to a computer if you want to use the library which is a block away you're welcome to do that but I I I get that and I understand that um but every every division every Department can print out these complaint forms if we go I've been up and down California I already know how this works it's a simple job man it didn't have to get to this you guys didn't all everybody have to come out here for that there's a reason why we do that bro there's a reason why we do what we do bro it's because of this we get a crew coming in like this it's unusual so we're just you know I don't think it's out of bound we ain't got no guns we got ceras Sacramento PD you guys counterpart they're way more professional than this you know we came here weren't even going crazy or anything we just L any other questions on you guys understand how to file a complaint and all that stuff already understand it seems like you guys don't understand but and see what's going to happen is you guys are going to end up getting a bunch of phone calls it's that simple man it's it's a simple process the man could do his job he doesn't know how to do it obviously and that's what and that's that's way things escalate and you you want to come in here and kind of like say that we're doing something wrong we're not saying we're in the wrong building where we're not supposed to be here or I don't know but this say that check your camera I got on camera publicly accessible we can be here I got that on camera division just make sure when you repeat what I say you get it right okay I got you're going to see it guaranteed you're going to see it if you need anything if you need anything um um this give us call okay cool than look at that folks a man calling another man cuz he's scared of a camera these are the cowards that we employ scared of a camera he explains that the complaint forms they requested are only available online and not in hard copy at this location the sergeant successfully deescalate the situation and the Auditors eventually left without recording further it's wicked to see cops messing with civilians if you enjoyed this video make sure to drop a like And subscribe for more goodbye