Are you familiar with the username incel revolution soon? >> Yeah. >> And have you talked about how all women need to be um masculine? >> No. >> Total Jewish bring forth now. Can the law get lefties? >> I don't know how much you guys would believe me, but on my end that's just emotional banter. >> A white male. Oh, a white male. He's so scary. Is wrong with you? >> Why would Yeah, because they're terrorists that have access and spy on people with the Patriot Act. You need to watch yourself. >> I don't care. I can say all of this. This is free speech. >> When an Instagram user calling himself Incel Revolution Soon shares a series of posts that draw the attention of the FBI, they trace the account to a home in Edgewater, Florida. There, a special agent clashes with the poster who believes he's done nothing wrong. >> Putting on an internet, you you go to jail for that nowadays? >> Yeah. If you're inciting mass murder of particular individuals, absolutely. The following is based on official police records, and the footage has never been seen before until now. Please note that any person charged with a crime is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law. On October 18th, 2025, the FBI received a tip about an Instagram user posting what they describe as RMVE, or racially, ethnically motivated, and violent extremist ideologies. Their investigation identified the user as 19-year-old Lucas Luke Nevlain. 6 days after receiving the tip, a special agent with the FBI arrives on his front porch accompanied by officers with the Edgewater Police Department. >> How you doing, dear? >> Hi. Hi. >> How you doing? >> Some agent will explain everything to you. >> Oh gosh. >> Richard with the FBI. Nice to meet you. Nice to see you. >> Yeah. What is this about? Is this Lucas? >> Yes. Okay. Okay. So, uh I'm glad that you're you're here as well. Is he saying something online? Is that Oh, >> really? You're looking at what I'm saying online? >> Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. >> Are you kidding me? >> What do you think? >> What is he saying? >> Why don't you tell us what he what he was saying? >> Nothing. >> Instagram account. I get banned on there. >> What's your Instagram handle? >> Why would I need to tell you that, brother? >> Ask a question. >> I'm not going to answer that question. >> If the FBI at your house asking you a question, it's for a reason. >> Board certified criminal defense lawyer Bruce Rivers reviewed this case and shared his perspective. Please note that all legal opinions expressed are solely Bruce's and not reflective of EW. >> He does not have to say anything to these officers. He could say, "I refuse to answer any and all questions." Now, they don't have to memorandize him here because he's not in custody. >> Sir, it's for a reason, but I mean, what the is this? >> Hello. Come on. What did >> What am I saying online? I've done nothing in >> disrespectful. I've not been a criminal. >> What did he What did he say? something. >> We'll talk about that. >> Act like I'm a terrorist. >> Well, why would you say that? >> Why are you here then? >> We don't talk about only terrorists. We talked to a lot of people. >> Oh my goodness. >> So, why would you say >> he has never been in trouble for doing anything? But what are you writing? What are you saying? >> Not saying anything. >> So, I'm concerned that you said terrorist because that's a big word and that why would you why would you think we were here to talk to you about being a terrorist? >> He said I'm not a terrorist. >> Right. But that that's a big word that most people don't just throw out there. >> Luke doesn't answer the question, but the agent will soon explain her concerns. >> So, first and foremost, for safety, are there any guns in the home? >> Yes. >> Okay. What type of gun is it? >> Uh, Glock 43, shotgun, AK. >> My dad also has guns. >> Um, are any registered to Lucas? >> No. >> No. Okay. Okay. Do you have them locked up in a safe? >> Yes. >> Okay. Does he have access to those? Okay. >> Well, I I know Luke doesn't have guns and you could look at it. You could see what they have. I have no problem with any of that. >> Do you know of any um time that he's been able to access the guns with that? >> No, he doesn't even shoot. >> Do you ever remember touching a tan and black AK in the home? >> Of course. >> Okay. Oh, okay. He probably picked up something of >> I'm going to show you. I was >> Okay. Well, now we know. Now we [clears throat] know what you did. >> Really? This is serious, honey. >> They take it serious. You can't just act like >> I can't pose with a gun. >> Do you know who that is in the photo? >> It's me. >> Okay. >> Is that Is that the gun you were talking about? >> Yeah, he's >> Yeah, he's It's You can't do that. >> Really? >> Especially if you're saying threatening stuff. >> I didn't say anything threatening. I just It was a picture. Then why is the FBI not? >> It was supposed to be funny because they're alphabet agencies. You know, our government. >> Stop. Watch your mouth. >> They're terrorists. That's what they are. >> They're trying to protect us. >> No, they're not. They don't protect your mouth. >> When was the last time you've seen the FBI in Edgewater? >> So, the concerns that I have are these are um stuff you're posting online. That's how they have it. >> The FBI was contacted because people were very concerned about some of the posts that you were sharing. >> You know what Homeland Security is? organization. >> No, hold on. Man, man, man, you need to call his father. >> He's very immature about this stuff. Are you his biological moral? Yes. >> About these things? I'm an American citizen and you come to my home for a uh post. >> That means it's not the picture. The post that you're making online, the post that you're making online are are federal felonies. >> Ow. >> Because that's the stat. >> If you're saying what you're saying, they >> What did I say in that photo? I mean, free speech, what the >> when you [ __ ] off online, it can have implications. I have a case right now where all my clients said, "I'm not leaving X-Ttown until so and so uh is in a coma." I filed a motion to dismiss that because it's just But you have a First Amendment right of free speech, but not any speech. You can't yell fire at a car to theater, you know, just like you can't bring your own food. I mean, I tried that once. I tried to bring my own food to to a movie theater and I got kicked out readily because >> the barbecue smoke was just too much for the the theater owner. >> They acted like I'm the planet attackers treating me like I'm a criminal. >> I don't know what you said. Nothing incriminating. >> They have to take it serious. >> Okay. I'd like to point out that you're not being treated like a criminal because you're not in handcuffs. You're not being detained. >> All right then. >> Okay. So, let's point that out there. Let's be very clear about that. >> Before the agent asks her next question, she tells Luke that lying to a federal agent during an investigation can result in a felony charge. >> That is true. If you lie to a federal agent, you know, I've got a case right now where my client is accused of that and it's a federal felony. >> Are you familiar with the username Incel Revolution soon? >> Yeah. >> Okay. What is that? >> It's just a handle I had on Instagram. >> It's your handle on Instagram. >> It was. It's gone now. It's banned. >> It just got banned. It gets banned all the time. >> Um, have you ever said anything uh like everyone? That's my instinct. That's what my instincts tell me. >> I mean, I've said it before. It's just jokes. >> Okay. Well, >> um, have you talked about how all women need to be um, masked? >> No. What? >> Little plot switches. >> What about the exact women? >> I don't need it. Women need to be I watch all the true crime shows. I know exactly what your Instagram handle was. Incel Revolution. Correct. >> It's just a joke. >> Okay. So, did you say it or was it a joke? [clears throat] >> Uh, I have no recollection of saying that phrase now. >> Okay. Do you ever remember hearing a foids? >> I mean, yeah, I probably said it before. >> Can you explain what a foe is? >> Just female humanoid. That's what it means. It's just a term. Huh? >> Yeah. Yeah. You might be thinking in your head that it's a joke, but it's not a joke. Put stuff on. >> What about the What about the phrase I'm going to commit mass murder before I >> I've never said that? Not that I know. >> I hope you didn't say that, Luke. >> What? >> What she just said? Have you said something? >> Show me the proof. Show me. I've said these things. >> Have you said that you wanted to? >> I mean, sure. I've said it before. >> Everyone said they had everything. Everyone's had thoughts of that before. >> The special agent explains her concerns that Luke may still be harboring these ideations, but he assures everyone that he's not. >> I know. Well, his friends or whoever he talks to online, they all kind of joke with stupid lingo like that, but he's never >> Yeah. Listen, there are first amendment protected rights. Absolutely. We we we care about those, but we care we also care about threats, and that's where things are not protected. Those are not protected rights. So making written threats online is a federal total Jew. Now bring it forth. It will happen soon, brother. It's all in place. >> Oh, do you ever remember saying anything like that? >> I I always I mean I said it. I know. >> This particular conversation took place between Luke and another Instagram user by the name Sea Salty Man, who sent Luke what police describe as an anti-Jewish video. They traced the account to Luke's 19-year-old close friend who they later questioned about the messages. >> I have a very certain opinion on Jewish people. Now, it's not >> allowed to have, >> which it's not all Jewish people. It's just people that so happen to be Jewish that do evil things. >> After sea salty man sent the video, Luke replied, "I don't hate them enough. I need more hate, more hatred. Total Jewish. Now bring it forth." Sea salty man responded, "I'm done with this. Let's start the revolution." To which Luke replied, "It will happen soon, brother. >> It's all just it's just dumb." >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, there are stuff that is things that are very serious. >> I I can't speak for him in that. That's just not something I keep up with. >> Sure. >> In any sense. Like, you know, that's just >> I really don't even know what to put that I I just don't think about it often. >> Um, >> when you say you don't think about it often, what do you mean by that? like you don't think about his statements often or you don't think about >> like the political ideologies like it's just not something I'm so >> okay >> fantasized in. >> You're a little bit nervous you're shaking and stuff like that. >> The first time I've ever had an interaction with a police like justice on my own. >> And keep in mind everything you say can and will be used in a court of law. >> Let me just be straight up honest with you. >> Take take a deep breath. Relax. At the end of this we're not putting you in handcuffs. We're not taking just I just I just want you to be relaxed and know that this is literally just a conversation. all of us are having. And when we're done, you go back inside and we get back in our cars and leave. >> I know. I'm just >> I just I just want to put you at ease. And I'm not sure if you were nervous or anything like that. >> No, I am. But like it's just like the very first time I've ever had to interact with FBI agent. >> In contrast, Luke's own conversation with the agent grew increasingly tense as she shared more of Luke's statements with his family. >> This is shared to me. Luke, >> what about um you get a gun to I'm going to get a gun to that's what I'll do after I public area. >> Who knows if I said >> Oh my gosh. Watch your mouth loop. Do you know who um Elliot Roger is? >> Yes, I know who he is. >> What? What is he known for? >> Elliot Roger. >> He was a guy that couldn't find love and then he went and shot up a place. >> In May of 2014, Elliot Roger murdered six people and injured 14 others. Before the attack, he uploaded a video to YouTube in which he said he wanted to punish women for rejecting him and expressed resentment toward men. He cited as an influence on several perpetrators of subsequent mass attacks. >> You mentioned you mentioned incel in your username. What is >> Yeah, it was a joke. Involuntary celibate. >> Okay. So that's what Elliot Roger was. Is that is that correct to say? >> I I suppose. Sea salty man was also later asked about this particular subject where the agent went into further detail. >> What do you know about incels? >> Um I just know it's a kind of people I don't know. I honestly couldn't even give you like a detailed for what it is. >> I don't know what it is honestly. I just know it's a term that gets used online. People like uh Nick Fuentes, if you know who that is, get called like in cells and stuff. It's just something like Sorry, give me I'm d It's like involuntary celibate. Mhm. >> I just think that's just a weird term. Involuntarily celibate. Can you think of a worse fate? [laughter] >> The concern is that a lot of your your statements that you're making are very similar [clears throat] to what Ellie Ro Elliot Roger believed and did. >> Really? >> Yes. You know, he knows that it's not >> what >> why would you even know exactly what he's talking about? I don't even know. >> It's a meme. There's multiple people on Instagram, thousands of people that call themselves. They sell revolution, too. I'm a true sale. Everyone says that. >> But some of the stuff you're saying is not. >> Who cares? They say it too. Do they show up? Do you show up at their houses >> and interrogate them? >> And anybody. >> I don't care if you're talking about me. I mean, I want to know if you do this to other people. You go to other people's houses and harass them like this. >> Obvious jokes. Who reported me? Like me on Yeah, but you put it on the internet. >> Nobody could have reported me. >> Luke, when you put it out there, >> who would have reported me? My own friends. They're the only ones that seen these things. >> Well, people whoever it's out on the internet, anybody can see it. >> No, I mean, it shows you on Instagram who views your post. >> They have access to all everything. >> Yeah, because they're terrorists that have access and spy on people with the Patriot Act. >> You need to watch yourself. >> I don't care. I can say all of this. This is free speech. While it isn't clear who reported Luke, many of his posts were publicly viewable. I >> mean, you come to my house to try to intimidate me and try to silence me. Is that what you're doing? >> No. >> That is what you're doing. You're asking me questions and I don't need the answer, do I? Why are you here? >> You absolutely don't need questions. >> Can you leave and never come back? >> Watch your mouth. >> Is that possible for you to or all four of you to do? >> Stop. >> That's no respect. >> No respect. Because what you're you're writing stuff that's not funny and it's not a joke. >> Stop. >> What's funny and what's not funny? Who's to say it? >> Yeah. Well, I say it. It's killing people. None of that. >> Am I under arrest? Am I going to be detained? Are you going to charge me for these things? Does any of this matter? Does I need a Do I need a lawyer? >> You call your dad and get him here. >> Luke's brother heads inside to call their dad, who will soon arrive and get caught up to speed with Sea Salty Man. and the FBI agent continued sharing what they found in their private messages. >> Again, we're not here to tell you to have your own opinion of us or groups or anything like that, but um do you recall talking about um more than 110 um or in a conversation more than 110 million non-white foreign individuals in our country? America America is truly hole. Does that ring a bell? >> I I know how he is. He's kind of racist. I'm not even going to lie. So, that sounds like something that could have been said. Now, that line specifically doesn't really >> ring a bell, but it it kind of >> Mhm. >> What about um uh something that you may have said, "I'm done with Let's start the revolution." >> Uh, okay. I saw that in the file. Um, so I remember when that happened, that was with the whole Charlie Kirk thing and that was on September 10th and I Lucas was the first person I was like texting and stuff and >> we just got into one of those like arguments, not arguments, uh, like >> debates, >> not debate. We were like on the same side, but we were just like >> fired up, >> flaming, like just pretty much dumping. That's what that was. >> Okay. Um, what about like follow up with that though? Him saying it will not it will happen soon, brother. it's all falling into place and then your response was I'm not waiting and then a discussion from you further was this tyranny has been has infected the human race since the dawn of the Jews then he responded you have to um rolling a fuse and committing an act of terror early benefits no one it's when Brevik was [ __ ] >> and bearing Bravik is a Norwegian terrorist who carried out attacks in Norway on July 22nd 2011 he first detonated a car bomb killing eight people. Then carried out a mass shooting at a youth camp, killing 69 more. >> And then what about um he continuing on talking about Breivik? He bombed leftists in Norway and what came from it? Really nothing at all. He went to jail. He lit the his fuse of hate early. We must all light our fuses together, not individually, and create such an enormous explosion, not a small insignificant one that completely obliterates the system so we can rebuild it a new. And your response was >> that was something you said okay >> that's one way to think about it but that's to invoke one singular explosion. It needs to be a chain reaction. The hate for true evil needs to spread. And that was your response. Total Jewish bringing forth now the lefties. >> Are are those the last few things you said were like conversations that he had with me? >> Correct. Some of your responses. >> Yeah. He had some responses in there as well. >> Okay. Could I could you read those to me? >> Uhhuh. Uhhuh. Um, your response to you need to blow it all up and win. Then you followed up, your response was, it's bigger and more grand than just to the section of one race. It is a fight that will require every lasting soul on this planet until it's dying breath. And then further on, it's he said them all lefties. >> I don't know how much you guys would believe me, but on my end, that's just emotional banter cuz that was around the time of the Charlie Kirk thing. That should be on September 10th or 11th, right? >> That's all that was. And since then, obviously, like I've calmed down and most of the world has. >> But at that day in specific, it was just a day where >> no one knew really what was going on or like the full severity of things. I didn't know that he was a uh what's it called? A Republican at the time. >> So that's bad on my end cuz I'm just saying I don't know about. That's p that's how I see it as I'm just talking out of >> so you probably thought it was one of those minorities or something that you have some sort of particular viewpoint against >> something someone that has committed something like that within the past few years like not maybe not like a black person or like a person of color but maybe like uh someone that identifies in the LGBTQ space cuz that happens before too like the transgenders that have like shut school in Nashville or >> the d the dude that tried to assassinate Trump was on that end if I'm not mistaken, but I don't know at the same time. So, >> according to police records, an Edgewater detective also learned of a group chat Luke was involved in which discussed the topic of school and workplace shootings. >> What was the name of the group chat? >> Serial flexers. >> Serial flexers. >> The federal agent attempted to question Luke further. >> Did you ever say blowing it all up with incel rage all >> you expect me to recall in my mind everything I've ever said? >> Watch them. >> Oh, you got pictures of it. I guess that's me. Is it me? My hands got right in my face. >> Yeah. >> Well, you don't think it's a big deal what you're saying, but it's a joke. >> You should. >> I'm a teenage boy. >> Yeah, but it's not a joke with what you're saying. >> You're actually an adult. >> Adult the federal government that >> everything you put on the internet is for anyone to see and they have to take it serious cuz they don't need people going out shooting people and killing people. There aren'ting immigrants coming here raping people that are illegal aliens. They're doing this because I'm a I have a European descent. That's why they're doing it. >> What the heck? >> That's exactly why they're doing it. A white male. Oh, a white male is so scary. >> Is wrong with you. >> You come up with Watch your mouth. >> Like, how do you live with yourself? >> Stop. >> I'm actually being >> It has nothing to do with your skin color. It's what you're saying. >> It is. >> It's what you're saying. Now, stop. Luke has already been told that he's not being detained or placed under arrest, leaving one of the officers wondering where this may be heading. So, what's going to be the end result here? Team 12 or what? >> No, this is it. Huh? >> Legal names. >> Yeah. >> So, uh with your consent >> like not today. >> Sure enough, the federal agent has a larger plan in motion, one she will not be revealing today. In the meantime, the situation grows more tense when Luke's dad arrives at the scene. >> The house no, let's let's catch him up on everything first. So, you know, I some of the stuff that online, nobody even on Instagram. I post things and they take it seriously and they come here and try to threaten us and search the home and think I'm a terrorist or something >> because some of the stuff >> Yeah. Free speech. I mean, what the They act like I'm committing a crime. >> Twitch swearing. >> No, this is absurd. I'm angry. >> Well, too bad. >> You can't do crap like this. >> So, we have there's first amendment rights, of course, but but when it becomes a written thread, it becomes a a big concern. >> It's just a joke and they >> This was posted on Twitter. Doesn't matter, Luke. That's the serious. You can't do that. >> Because you're not taking it serious. It's not a joke. >> It's not serious at all. It's laughable. >> With Luke's dad now informed of why they're here, the agent revisits her earlier concern about guns in the home. >> I can take all my weapons and put them in a gun safe. >> That would be great. >> At my shop. >> That would be >> I thought they were in your safe in the room. the um >> and this is strictly this is to control but this is strictly because of the safety concerns that we're having. As an example, some of the threats were >> women need to be in mass. >> Oh my gosh. What the >> I'm going to get a gun. That's what I'll do after I a public area. >> Are you kidding me, Luke? >> Everyone, that's my instinct. That's what my instincts tell me. I don't want to hear what >> uh I'll take for the concerns and put him in my gun. >> What questions do you have? >> None really. It's all a shock to me. I didn't know any of the pictures. I didn't know any of this stuff. >> Cuz they all think the buddies he talks to, it's all a big joke to slander different ethnic groups and all the stuff they think it's funny. >> And that's first amendment protected. It is. >> No matter how you feel about it, it's first amendment protected. But what is not the it's the written threat. So >> you don't go around saying threat. >> No. Uh many many of the mass shooters have been incels. >> Well yeah it's you can't >> it's a joke. >> I don't care. You don't say you don't. >> They killed. >> Obviously it's not a joke cuz ladies here >> doesn't mean anything. It does one time. >> Oh no no no they don't. I'm 56 years old. I never had the FBI come to my house >> because >> kind of bull. >> It's hard to explain to you people. You >> Well, yeah. Well, you got a warp way of thinking. >> When the agent asks for a chance to look in the home and ensure there are no weapons in Luke's room, Luke speaks out against it and his family seems to lose their patience with the teen. >> There's no charges. They can't search our house. I'm not under arrest. >> Wow. >> Okay, Luke. >> They can't >> They can't shut your mouth. >> Go inside. You know what? Okay. Go inside now, please. >> They can see the guns. If I say they can see him, >> so he cannot. If the parents say, "Go ahead and search his room." Luke can't say, "I don't want you to search my room." They can get permission from the parents. >> Why would you consent? >> Get it in the >> You're all ridiculous. Not even what? >> He's mentally ill. >> Watch a go inside. >> Listen, you're not making this situation any better with your negative stuff because you guys need to take it more serious. >> No, I'm taking I'm taking it real serious that he's moving all the guns out. Yeah, I am. >> You going to take the Xbox? >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to throw out. >> This is not the time for that. Okay. >> Because I'm trying to get her not the time for >> I just know. Just like always, he won't get in trouble for anything. >> Okay. How am I not taking it serious when we just found out about it? All the guns are going out >> because you're trying to get rid of >> Go inside. >> Go. >> I don't feel safe in there by myself or >> Oh, you know what? >> Oh my goodness gracious. >> Let me call somebody and go somewhere else. >> Yeah. How about that? >> The federal agent and the members of the Edgewater Police Department leave the home having obtained enough information to secure a warrant for Luke's arrest. Six days later, officers descend on the teen's home under the cover of night. >> Hands up. Hands up. Come out here. >> Walk out straight to us, please. >> All occupants of the resident. >> All right. >> Don't go back. >> No. Don't go back inside. >> Come out to us with your hands up. >> Lucas, hands up. >> Everybody, hands up. >> There's the suspect right there. That's him. >> Lucas, stop, guys. Stop where you're at. >> Down on the ground. Down on the ground, Lucas. Get on the ground. >> Are you kidding me? >> Put your hands behind your back. >> You guys know exactly what this is about. >> No, we don't. He came. They came. >> Don't say anything. >> Stand up. >> Somebody clear the channel. >> What is it now? What is it now? >> Let's go. >> What for? >> The same thing. >> No, you may need the phone. >> What was it for? >> The same thing. Yep. >> So why is it Why is this now? What do you mean? >> Why do they come now? Why? >> Because it's when we have a warrant for it. Really? >> Yes. >> Don't say nothing. >> So, when you're charged with a crime, they can charge it out one of two ways. They can charge it up by summons where you get a letter in the mail and say, "You have a court date on this particular day. Please come to court." Or they can charge it up by warrant. And in cases that involve violence or potential threats of violence, they do it under the cover of darkness and they do it uh without telling you. So after that first visit with the FBI, what I would have recommended for him to do, call a lawyer right now. And that lawyer starts interacting with the prosecutor, they would have had a heads up. And what we do is, okay, well, he'll turn himself in. You You're going to You're going to do it? Issue the warrant on Friday? He'll turn himself in on Friday. Turn around, face the bed of the truck. You got anything on you going to poke prick stick me? >> Uh, no. >> Okay. I just want to make sure. >> Gotcha. You've got a warrant uh for your arrest for written threats to kill or do terroristic attacks. Do you understand? >> Yes. >> All right, spread your feet. >> This is ridiculous. >> It's not ridiculous. >> Yeah, it I mean the post I agree that was all >> this this is not ridiculous. >> I think it's ridiculous. Why didn't they just take him that day then? >> Cuz they didn't have it that day. It It requires investigations. This requires time. >> Yeah, I know what he was saying. I agree with that. That was all wrong. But >> well, this is the result of that. >> It's taken very seriously. >> It's taken very seriously. Yes. These young kids both. >> It's not young kid. It's nothing to do about that. Well, >> I I think I know the kid. I >> Yeah, I understand that. I understand. He's your son. >> Here. Put it this way. >> He's not going to go kill someone. >> Do you know that? >> Put it this way. Right. So, put it this way. >> If something [snorts] does happen and we did nothing about it, then you know >> there's nothing. He's here all the time. But >> he's not he's not in the prison cell, you know. So, at the end of the day, you have to understand that that kind of stuff can't be taken lightly with the way the world is nowadays. >> While Luke's mom heads inside to get a pair of shoes for her son, his dad continues speaking with police officers. >> Yeah. [snorts] For put on an internet, you you go to jail for that nowadays? >> Yeah. If you're inciting mass murder of particular individuals, absolutely. >> If you What do you guys name names or you just >> No, you don't need to you don't need to name names. If you say that you're going to mass kill, yes, >> that's not protected. That's not protected speech. >> Free speech is is a a protected constitutional right. However, there is a point where it goes from being free speech to being crime. Any any espousal of violence is no longer free speech. You cannot incite or request or make any attempts to say anything about violence. That becomes no more free speech. If you just simply say, "I hate insert xgroup here." whatever >> that is what it is. But you can't start espousing any kind of thing that says I'm going to kill anybody. That's where it becomes a problem. A major problem in fact because the state of Florida deems it a second degree felony punishable by 15 years in prison. >> They don't leave the house. >> Great. Right now he doesn't until he's decided he's ready. You can't not take stuff like that seriously. And we will never not take that seriously. >> While behind bars, Luke reaches out to his brother in a recorded jail call. I don't know what they're thinking even though I don't meant nothing of it. >> Yeah, well, you're just going to have to be honest and tell them that and you need to apologize. >> Yeah, I know. If uh if my friends talk to you or whatever, I don't know if they're going to ask you questions. >> Well, I'm sure everyone's going to be asking questions. And of course, everyone everyone around here is constantly they constantly looking at that for new mug shots because they got nothing better to do. So, people are going to find out. That's humiliating. >> I don't know, Luke. Just you need to say some prayers or something. >> Yeah, you're acting like I'm getting hung on the ground as a nerd or something. >> No, but you got to you got to go through this. I mean, you brought it on yourself. >> Well, like I knew this would happen. It was just a joke on the internet. >> It's serious. They can't they can't ignore that. That's how bad things happen. >> Yeah. Luke's fears that his friends would all find out were eventually realized as this conversation between Sea Salty Man and the FBI took place after Luke's arrest and his subsequent release from jail on a $10,000 bond. Fully aware of Luke's illegal consequences, the teen works to make his stance clear. >> I I just going to put this on the record. I won't and can't relate to going and wanting to shoot up a place that's absolutely mad. But certain people I guess can just because that like ambiguous anger that has like built up in some people especially like that that sit in the house all day. They have no outlet and all they do is they're chronically online. It's just not healthy. >> What are your thoughts now looking hindsight? >> Um definitely watch my emotions and he definitely should do the same. Like are you talking about like what I've learned from the whole experience? Not really what you've learned, but what are your thoughts about his um his likelihood to maybe act on any of these types of threats? >> I think that's a good joke. >> At what point does it does a joke become a reality? >> Um what's the line? >> Very good question. um a joke, it depends on like certainly like the circumstance, but with this like with this u specific situation with him going out and harming something, >> I could sit here and say because I've known him for so long that I seen the patterns and who knows, but you know, changes. So, truthfully, I don't know. >> The special agent and Edgewater police also visited the home of another of Luke's close friends. According to police records, Luke had sent him what they described as numerous threats and derogatory comments against women. >> One being like um I hate women so much it's unreal. Just seeing them makes me see with rage. Knowing other men women and I can't makes me see with rage. It makes me want to become a terror world. Even if I ascended and somehow attained a woman, I would never truly love her. I just beat her. I hate them >> from when I when I read it. But no, I don't I don't remember. >> No. Sounds like he's just kind of got his got his blockers on, not really paying attention to it. >> And I know T just like I am. We're like, "Oh, yeah, that's them. Whatever. You don't anything." But then he started saying it and we're like, "Whoa, the world's different now. You can't say this." And it's words and we've seen it. I mean, we're living it, >> right? And you can you can call it a joke as much as you like, >> but a lot of other people have called it jokes have acted out, >> right? And that is very excessive to me. So, I would have never imagined him to keep having these. And I hope it is just a kid talking, but that definitely would put a concern that I'm not trying to be mean, but I do think he's not allowed to come around just for I don't want to take any chances. >> According to court documents, 19-year-old Lucas Gregory Nevlain was charged with one count of written threats to kill or do bodily injury. He entered a plea of not guilty and is currently still out on bond. The case is ongoing and a pre-trial hearing has been set for May 20th, 2026. Special thank you to Bruce for reviewing this case.