this officer violating my rights no I'm not yes he is you're talking to lawyers right now but you're talking to us because I want you to [ __ ] leave just understand if you come back on the property you're going to jail you going to violate my rights I'm going to take you to jail you going to violate my rights I'm going take you to jail I the interaction began when officers approached a campsite in a national forest without any visible indication of illegal activity prompting questions about their Authority Under terv Ohio law enforcement must have Reasonable Suspicion of criminal conduct to justify investigatory stops or questioning the attorney immediately identified the officer's lack of reasonable suspicion and asserted his right to be left undisturbed their claim of unrestricted authority to interact with individuals in the area conflicted with constitutional protections against unwarranted interference he's on training he's on training yeah he doesn't he he he thinks he's look he's just trying to talk to everybody I know and I'm trying not to talk to anybody okay cuz it's my right yeah it is and you guys don't have the right to come up to people that aren't obviously hunting but but I get it I don't want to start an argument with you he's a rookie okay you have no Reasonable Suspicion to come up to me you're in I'm an attorney you're in a national Force we can come talk to no you can't I'm an attorney what's your name and badge number officer portal 328 we're not hunting we're about to leave have a nice day but we can talk to we can come and I can ignore you just like I did right you're not ignoring us I ignored him right kind of okay okay I could play the game too I'm just no no reason to to get all actually there actually there is there's cops standing in front of me at 7:00 a.m. for no reason you're in National Forest your fishing game we're your State Certified peace officer guess what you also are on my land it's my land too so so so I have the right to be offended that you're standing here asking me questions with no reason does it look like I'm hunting I was just asking a question that's what I'm saying I mean we can walk around your camp with no no issues you're un Forest you can get sued too I can't go into your stuff but I can walk around that's what I'm saying but you but not without Reasonable Suspicion you can't just pull up to my camp and walk around yeah I no you can't it's for do you have Reasonable Suspicion to believe I'm hunting you could no I I'll agree I'll agree that you could do that if I'm hunting if you if if you have if you see mountain bikes okay you can't if you see hunting you can you do not have unau un un uh unchecked Power to just walk into people's camps at any time yeah not in the National Forest on state land you do dude all right so now I'm going to have to turn this into you're you're going to be on my YouTube have a great day you're going to get a bunch of calls I'm going to make a formal complaint against you and what was your badge number I'm off riy badge 4 just trying to be that's all we're trying to do here uh coming up to people and telling them how you think you can go places and do things isn't cordial we didn't lock around your stuff but you said you could we could and you have a badge and a gun right so that's intimidating in and of itself right so if you're charting to intimidate me it's not going to work who who why telling me telling me that I said I'm not comfortable with you coming up to me and you said well I can walk around your Camp if I want so how how is that cordial because you started out with at I started out by ignoring you right hoping You' turn around and leave right because you should pick up on the hint that unless you have reasonable suspition we have no reason to talk to you right you're talking to lawyers right now but you're talking to us because I want you to [ __ ] leave and I want to make a YouTube video clowning you now okay so that's what I'm doing okay thank you have a great day thank you you didn't still didn't say your badge number either yeah I said 328 328 watch your video who's your who's your uh supervisor uh Paul Greer so you're telling me when I take Paul Greer he's going to tell me that you guys could as a matter of fact I don't even need to you show me the AR ARS that authorizes you to walk through people's camps show me the ARs that says you can't yeah it's called there has to be a law that says you can't do something it's called Reasonable articulable Suspicion a law you can do it the attorney shifted Focus to holding the officers accountable by questioning the legal foundation for their claims Cinder versus Lawson establishes that vague or arbitrary enforcement without clear statutory Authority violates due process when pressed for the specific law permitting their actions the officers could not provide one undermining their credibility this lack of clarity exposed the encounter as an overreach rather than a legitimate exercise of authority the attorney's insistence on adherence to the law underscored the importance of challenging such actions to prevent abuses of power has to be law that said you can't do something called Reasonable articulable Suspicion a law you can do it tell me what so you can make up laws no you're saying I'm making a no what you're saying but but hear me out now okay you wanted me to leave for you're saying you can walk into somebody's Camp without Reasonable Suspicion right the attorney attempted to trap him with a question about inventing laws but he avoided answering it talking about making up laws here are cops who tried to bend the law to their own will this officer violating my rights no I'm not yes he is okay hang on the officers received a call about a suspicious person and approached a man near a sheriff's office to investigate Texas law allows officers to detain someone temporarily if they have Reasonable Suspicion of criminal activity however the man was standing on public property which is not inherently suspicious when the officers demanded answers he remained calm refused to answer questions and reminded them of his rights the interaction escalated when they attempted to search him violating his fourth amendment rights which protect against unreasonable searches and seizures stop right there back off back off no I'm not going back off okay what's going on what's going on nobody's done anything to you yet are you going to talk to me look we got a complaint about you being up here talk to me what's going on big ready hey talk to me don't approach me don't approach me don't approach me put your put your hands up on the car car I've been broken a lot exercising my rights in public you have no right to touch me offer violating my rights no I'm not yes he is okay hang on hang on hang on I don't consent to sech the seeds of my property we're not search you we're pat you down for our safety okay move move B get off me stop touching me stop touching me I already told you that sir you have no right to touch me calm down yes I do calm down this guy's touching me right here what is your name what's going on what's name bass number ma'am identify yourself since you want to go hands on I'm Sergeant wild what is your name what's your name and Bash number ma'am I'm asking you a question what's your name and Bash number are you not going to identify yourself I am you need to identify what's your bass number e hands okay be respectful what is your what is your name you got an ID on you am I being detained for a crime we're investigating we got called on you okay how about you guys disperse and get up out of here okay why would we do that because you have no reason to be here yes we do yes we do we got a call on around the sheriff's office here okay we got a complaint CU find out what's going on I come up to talk to you and you take off running so yes that's very suspicious not illegal I didn't say it was illegal I said it was suspicious I try to talk to you and you won't talk to me so tell me what's going on right now what I need you to do is get from behind me and go back into your vehicle I don't have to do that well I'm I'm going go on walk away then then walk away how about that walk away how about that huh go on I don't have to go I actually can stay here if I want you're actually in the roadway so because you put me against the car oh no we didn't you stepped over here towards me he did not move me he didn't move me okay how about you get out of the roadway the I definely get out the roadway not an issue there but y'all push me against the car okay keep moving I don't have to keep moving haven't broken the law do what I haven't broken the law ma'am do yourself a favor go back in your patrol car you're not telling me what to do I am I am telling you what to do because went on right I mean you're wasting tax dollars so on you you're right that's your fault you chose to be here no we no we didn't we got called somebody thought it was very suspicious that you were hanging around the Sheriff's Office over here which is funded by our tax dollars right oh do you pay taxes I sure do I pay a lot more than you think too oh I'm sure sure I pay a lot more taxes than you think I'm sure you do e hands do yourself a favor go back in your car not going to tell me when I can leave and when I can't leave actually I'm going to tell you when when you well guess what I don't have to listen to you well I guess we going to be here all day then huh I got nothing but long here I don't care either are you intoxicated you sound like you're intoxicated or or areces are you making false are you making false I'm asking you are you answering or not nothing wrong with exercising your first amendment rights in public you guys came to me bro I was the what's the First Amendment freedom of press okay what are you right now I'm recording you guys and that's good we're recording you too because you guys are funded by tax dollars you're right right we're doing our job well how about since there's no crime happening here how about you guys dispers that's what we're trying to figure out already I've already explained it to you there's called on you you don't need to explain nothing to us don't you want exp you stupid get out of my site now for what well I can't do nothing to you cuz I go to jail so get out exactly yeah cuz you got that badge that's right you got you got that badge that badge is the only thing that's that's making you stand here right now that's that's right I got called here and I'm doing my job now that there's no crime committed how about get going I don't know if there's a crime committed cuz you will not identify yourself I don't have to give my the ID to you oh okay so so what what is the deal I asked you if you were intoxicated and you didn't give me an answer I don't answer questions how about that oh okay how about that y well I got nothing but I got nothing but time the officers insisted on identifying the man citing their need to ensure he wasn't a threat under Texas penal code section 38.0 two a person is only ired to identify themselves if they are lawfully arrested the man standing firm reminded the officer that he wasn't breaking any laws and therefore had no obligation to comply his refusal frustrated the officers who accused him of obstruction though he was simply exercising his First Amendment right to film in a public space you guys can disperse at any time you guys want you guys can disperse at any time you want what's your name and bass number it's written right there written right there mhm name is right here yep can you pronounce it born down bass number 222 good job you already identifi yourself yeah I did next time when I ask you for your identification what when I ask you for ID you give it to me okay have to how about how about you qu running your head do yourself a favor you're F to buy tax dollars it's your obligation to identify yourself how do I know you're not imp person how you know you're not fake police officers you think we're impersonating call the police they'll tell you whether or not we are right yeah that one that's the whole point of identified youself that's good you got me there I can't whye I guess we're just going to sit here and do nothing or what no we're waiting on an answer answer yeah from the Sheriff's Office once we get an answer from the sheriff office we go from there just just I just want to let you know something you can't trespass me from the sheriff's department it is public property transort funed by a tax dollar actually it's not the proper who funds the sheriff's apartment this isn't the sheriff's doesn't matter who FS operation it's still it's still in R Texas why does it say Sheriff Department public property it's still funed by tax dollars I could be at the prison and it wouldn't matter it's funded by our tax dollars so I'm going be entain for you were in prison what said it's like being on a prison property it's still funded by tax dollars yeah that doesn't mean you can't be on Prison property try it and see what happens try to get in there I've done a lot of things on a prison prop sure I've exercised my rights on a prison prop oh I'm I'm sure you have I don't know abolutely okay I don't know what you inating but am I being detained for a crime I told you leave to leave okay so I'm not detained so you said you were detained okay I just want I just want to get that clarified if I'm if I'm not detained then I'm free to stay I just want no if we're we're waiting on an answer to see if they want you criminally trespassed if we do then you're going to be criminally trespassed and then you will leave the property if not you can stay here I by all means you can stand right there too I don't I don't care where you stand but if I want you see te it's not going to be here oh I'm going to tell you something I'm not detained so you don't get my ID the best thing you guys can do for yourself is to go back in your car and leave okay I'm just being I'm just being honest Co I'm glad you think that I I don't what you think oh yeah see I'm so glad I do these audits yeah you're doing good I'm very I'm doing a very good job hey you're going to be the star of the show thank you yeah I appreciate that's a I like being a star yeah you say that now star a lot of things I guess your attitude's problem now that's why that's why there's a disconnect yeah I agree yeah so that's why I'm here for to test out to see if you guys respect my rights and you failed miserably thank you you know the other put it on my e the the other police or you can look up the complaint for him and write a complaint too oh I might do that do it I might just not today I got better things to do me too so I mean you can leave I will whenever I get an answer as the standoff continued the officers warned the man that he could be criminally trespassed from the Sheriff's Office office property according to penal code section 30.05 Criminal Trespass occurs only when a person knowingly enters or remains on property after receiving explicit notice to depart the man countered that standing on public property funded by taxpayers didn't qualify as trespass he also demanded confirmation of this claim from a higher authority highlighting the officer's lack of understanding of public access laws would respect the [Music] Constitution anything to do with you being Criminal Trespass it has a lot to do with it if if I'm not able to exercise my rights on a Sheriff's Department property which is funded by our tax dollars then that is going against Constitution let me explain something to you okay yeah because who it's funded by doesn't have anything to do with it it's like school property school property is private property if they want you removed from that proper dep on the schools no public school is private property on it's owned by the school district okay and if they want you removed from that you can be removed from that property okay just like the Sheriff's Office okay it's not public property public property would be like this sidewalk right here not on when I drove up you were in their parking lot up there by the office okay so and I was never told I was never told to leave either you didn't give us a chance either you took off running N I wasn't detain at the time either no but you but we've gotten to that point now where we're talking to you about it so once we find out then we'll go all right going trespass then we'll do that so you guys man so if I'm not detained I'm going go I'm going be here I'm going to go ahead and leave okay okay I'm just waiting on you guys to disperse we're not going to we're staying here until we get an answer okay and we don't have to leave either we don't have to tell us to dispers CU we don't have to we can do we want to go I guess yeah I would like to have the sheriff come out here to confirm your criminal trespass too I'm I'm not I'm not going to take your word for it I'm not going to take your word for it man I would rather have a sheriff tell me so I have that right I have that right you know if they tell us to do that then we'll be okay that's our legal right well we'll see you seem kind of bored I am you know I'd rather be doing with real crime instead of make people like this well you can leave and think they know I do know the law I may not know all the laws that I'll give you I that I'll give you but I know I'm not all right Sheri said you need to leave the property I am on the sidewalk okay and keep walking I am on the sidewalk this is not their property how about you disperse and when you guys leave I'll leave how about you take R run in your dumb mouth why you got to be so mean I'm not mean you're just out of yourself you're calling me dumb get something I want you to saying something okay if you go back on the property over here the Sheriff property that's the parking lot parking lot their property anywhere around there okay and we come back and see you there you'll be arrested and you'll go to jail okay so don't do that sidewalks okay how many if you want a lawsuit go ahead it's not about whether we want a lawsuit or not it's about it's about you're being criminally trespassed from that public facility man it's a what if I so can you walk in there right now right now it's closed exactly that that means it's not open to the public right now it is a public facility no it's private property belongs to the county that makes it private property no yes it does who funds the county it doesn't matter who pays for it I pay taxes so therefore I fund the that has nothing to do with whether it's private property or not that's what I'm trying to explain to you about the school Walmart all these where you go shopping all these places are private property the school is funed by public but I have no reason to be at of school I don't test teacher about their rights I test police about their rights that's all that's all I do understand and if you know I'm not breaking the law why not just okay you were on private property they wanted you to leave you were suspicious we came to check you out you took off running that's even more suspicious instead of just stopping and talking to me like I wanted you to you decide to to make this a bigger deal than what it is there's nothing wrong with exercising your rights in public we all have our Styles doing it there's nothing wrong with me doing my job either right I mean there's a way about there's a way about going about doing your job there is you're threatened to arrest me for going back on arrest you you just said if I go on their property that I'll be arrested yes because you are being criminally trespassed from that property which isun by Tex want you there how about get the sheriff out here I don't have get anybody out or a deputy sheriff have have a out here they told us we have the authority to do it okay it's within the city limits m okay whatever you say so I'm just letting you know don't go back on the property okay okay do you just want to go home now I mean do you want to go back on patrol clearly there's no crime happening clearly there's no crime happening right now I'm sure there is elsewhere well maybe go that you have us caught up with so just understand if you come back on the property you're going to jail you're going to violate my rights I'm going to take you to jail you're going to violate my rights jail I promise you that that's how we going to do it okay okay well you have a good day okay bye byebye I'll be back tomorrow during business hours to confirm that trespass the officers eventually retreated after realizing they couldn't legally detain or arrest him the man reaffirmed his intention to follow up with a sheriff's office to confirm his rights to access public property this encounter exposed the officer's misuse of authority and failure to respect constitutional protection c s specifically the fourth and first amendments the man left without charges demonstrating the importance of knowing and asserting one's rights in the face of unlawful police actions like And subscribe for more police camp stories watch the next recommended video click to watch now