All right. But can I just show you the rules and regulations? >> No, you don't have to show it to me. >> I could. It's right over there on the wall. >> I can read just like you can, >> but it's open. They think the lobby's empty when they gave us authorization. >> Thank you for your service. >> Is that what you think? >> Just a single camera appears in the post office lobby and the supervisor immediately rushes out as if a major incident has erupted. >> Okay. >> Can you come on out? >> You're not You're not closing. You're lying. >> Come on out. This kills me. >> What seemed like simple filming suddenly sent the entire post office into chaos thanks to a dramatic bout of law interpretation. The moment he started filming, the supervisor rushed out to confront him, turning a lawful right into a tense confrontation under the excuse of being unsafe. >> Can I help you? >> Employee or something? >> Am I a postal employee? >> Uhhuh. Like a postal inspector? No. >> Uhhuh. >> No, >> you can't um film this in here. >> Oh, I'm just taking some pictures and video in the lobby area. >> I can't do that. Why? >> No, sir. That's postal regulations. You can't take pictures. >> It's the regulations. >> Mhm. >> I don't think so. I don't think that's the case. Thank you though. >> Why do you think that's part of the regulations? >> I don't think that's >> okay. I appreciate that. Thank you. That's fine. So they do have a sign that says security notice use of cellular phone is prohibited in this facility. So this is the back of the >> facility right here. Don't tell me you >> I don't know. He say not a poster inspector. He's not a poster employee. >> So why are you recording? >> Hi. Who are you? >> Who are you? Why are you regarding? >> No, but who are you? You telling me if I You're asking me questions. I want to know who I'm speaking with. >> I'm a supervisor. >> You're a supervisor here. And your name? >> Nicole. Nicole. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. So, Nicole, my name is Sean. >> Hi, Sean. >> Hi. I'm just Why you recording me in there? >> Well, I was just recording the back room, not you particularly, Nicole. I didn't even see you over there. >> Do that though. >> Why? >> Why you not supposed to do that, Miss Rhonda? [laughter] Why you not supposed to record? Cuz this is >> You're the supervisor. >> Because you're [clears throat] not supposed to record. That's why. >> Oh, no. That's not the case though, Nicole. That's not the That's not the case. >> You have a living. >> You, too. Take care. >> I wish that people would understand the rules and regulations governing conduct on postal property. The police arrived, but what they did next left everyone questioning. Were they protecting citizens rights or protecting the feelings of government employees? >> Doing good. How about yourself? >> I'm doing well. What's your name and badge number? >> Officer Munoz. >> And your name and badge number? >> Officer Reed. >> And the badge number? I'm sorry. >> Thank you. I appreciate that, officer. Thank you. >> Yeah, I guess they called you. I didn't I didn't call you. Yeah. >> Okay. Everything good? >> Yeah, I'm fine. >> Okay. I I don't I believe the supervisor called you back there. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Just make sure to keep the body cameras on, please. Thank you. Transparency. Well, now we have some body camera to request. It's always best to leave them to their own devices with the body camera. I couldn't go back there anyway. But interesting things are said on body camera when they think we're not going to >> see it or hear it. >> I believe they're saying something about they're going to call the postal inspectors. I guess the law enforcement officers don't want to engage in violating my rights. for the second time in a day. >> You don't close till you don't close till 5:00. >> You could come outside. I don't feel safe and they can't make me work. And I don't >> You don't feel safe? >> No. Come on. >> I'm not a threat to you, man. >> Come on out. >> Can you come on out? >> You're not You're not closing. You're lying. >> Come on out. And excuse me. >> Can I officer, can I show you the uh Can I show you the rules? >> Cuz I don't feel safe. >> Okay. >> Okay. If he does want to leave, >> that's right. >> If it if they're going to close, they're going to close. I'm not going to I'm not going to try and stay in a closed building. But I But I just wanted to show you the rules and regulations. >> Within just a few minutes, an unbelievable decision was made to shut down the post office nearly an hour early. All because of a camera. >> Let's close the building now. >> All right. So, they're closing. I mean, that's ridiculous, but there are rules and regulations posted about recording. >> 2 minutes and they're about to close, sir. All right. >> All right. So, while while they're helping him, can >> you can't refuse service to just me, ma'am. I'm I want to show the officers. She's locking the door. >> You don't know that. I can get a stamp. You don't know that. >> I just told her he had a couple minutes and he's done. Okay. >> All right. But can I just show you the rules and regulations? >> No, you don't have to show it to me. >> I could. It's right over there on the wall. >> I can read just like you can. >> But it's open. I know, but you haven't read it yet, sir. That's what I'm saying. >> Read it right now. Okay. >> Well, why not? It's It's right there. I just want to show you that what I'm doing is permissible by federal >> ID to me like I provided my ID to you. >> Well, I haven't committed a crime. I didn't I didn't provide crime. >> But that's your policy, sir. >> I didn't provide a crime either. >> I know you didn't commit a crime, right? You're a law enforcement officer. You guys never commit crimes, right? But over there where he's looking, the rules and regulations, it says photographs for news purposes may be taken in entrances, lobbies, and foyers >> um that they're permitted. So that's why I'm not sure why they >> Well, you've been here almost 45 minutes. >> No, that's not true. We've been here probably about 20 minutes. >> Okay. So half the time. >> I wasn't aware there was a time limit on rights, sir. >> There is not a time limit on rights. You're absolutely correct. >> Right. If they just read their own rules and regulations, they would see that it's permitted. That's why I'm trying to deescalate the situation. I haven't been disrespectful to anybody. I haven't even gone up to the counter. I've spoken with postal. They've told me as long as you're not recording credit card information, things like that, you're good. >> That's that's that's their main concern. >> We told them you were able to record and you could stay here. Um but if they're going to close down, >> right, I mean that's Yeah, I I get that point. I get that, officer. I get that. If they close, they close. I mean, I can't stay in a closed building. I get it. I think it's just ridiculous. I get it. I get it. >> All you have to do is read your rules and regulations. It's federal law, ma'am. I'm not a threat to you. >> They're employees here. I'm pretty sure they've read those. >> No, they have no idea. >> They're closed, ma'am. >> Ma'am. >> Yes, ma'am. They're closed. >> Obviously not, officer. If they don't think that I can record, they haven't read their rules and regulations. >> And just when everything seemed to be over, the truth came out. No one here understood the federal regulations they are paid to enforce. Yet the consequences are borne by the public. >> Have a good day. >> Thank you. Just >> be careful. I don't want to teach. The guy know I let the door hit him. He will uh say that I tried to assault him. So apparently they're closed. That's ridiculous. If the postmaster was here, they would uh definitely, at least I would think they're an educated postmaster and know the federal regulations, the rules and regulations governing conduct on postal property. They would know that we have a right to record photographs for news purposes are permitted. It's unfortunate that in 2025, postal employees have no idea how to do their jobs or what's the regulations. Apparently, they're calling the postal inspector right now. We have spoken to postal inspectors throughout the last four years of our activism and journalism. And the postal inspectors have no problem with us recording in the entrances, foyers, and lobbies because it's permitted by federal regulation. It's a first amendment right. Uh the only thing they always advise is not to record any credit card transactions. I absolutely cannot believe that they just shut down the post office for a camera. >> Have a safe night, guys. Take care. >> Thank you. >> Citizens can sue police officers under SS1,983 when their rights are violated. Officers who break the law may be required to pay damages and face disciplinary action or termination. The police may not have committed a major violation, but they neglected their role in protecting citizens rights. Up next, the moment they stepped into the VA, security immediately blocked them and chaos unfolded right after. >> Hello. >> We found out that's private back there. Took off private. >> That's awesome. >> So, we're going to have to leave. >> Where's the bathroom at? >> It's that way. >> We're going to have to leave. I'm not asking you. I'm telling you, you got to leave. You're [laughter] not telling me security here and you've been author you've been not authorized to use the film in this area. You need to leave >> in what area? >> This is the VA. You need to leave. >> I I know where >> authorizes this. I got to go to that bathroom. >> No, you're not going to use this. >> There's a bathroom in the waiting room. >> I'll take a leak right here on the floor. >> Well, there's a bathroom in the waiting room. >> So, I'm asking you to please leave. >> Well, I'll go to the bathroom, but I'm not leaving the VA. >> Yes, you are. >> No. No, I'm not. >> Well, they could stay in this area. They can't come back here, but private patient is more back there. >> Stay right in this lobby. >> Well, she called me. >> Uh the the federal law states that we >> You cannot go where there's private patient, >> right? We understand that. >> Okay. Stay right in this lobby. There's patients right. There's patients right here. >> This is a equipped with a hippopilter. >> Excuse me. >> There's patients here. He's talking. He cannot be in here. >> Please hold it down. People going crazy. >> Oh yeah. It's a federal law. It's right here. When >> it's just easy for you to go outside until the vehicle here. >> No, I'm asking you to leave cuz you're authorized to be here. >> Yes, I am. >> No, you're not. >> Yes, I am. >> No, you're not. >> That right there says I am. >> You're not authorized to be here, sir. >> That right there. >> I'm asking you to leave. If you don't want to leave, I'll just call you. Call her. >> I am. >> And you're going to get educated. I don't think you'll be educated either. [laughter] >> It's impossible. It's impossible to educate some people. >> A single mention of federal law completely shifted the atmosphere and pushed everything into a confrontation no one expected. >> Until the VA police get here and you refused to do that. I don't understand why. >> What What do you give me a hard time whenever I'm just asking you to to come out here until the VA police get here? Because our right is >> You don't have the right to do whatever you want to do. Yes, we do. >> No, you don't. That's like saying you come to my house because you want to. >> This ain't your house. This ain't yours either. The federal law. You don't have to cuss at me. I'm not cussing at you. I'm being very respectful to you, but you're not being very respectful to me. >> Ju just now cuz you won't listen. >> No, because you won't listen. You're not authorized to be here. >> You understand what federal law is? Because I definitely understand what federal law means. >> It's on the wall. Okay. All right. Obviously, you don't want to listen. So, >> okay. Coach, you'll find out. >> You will find out today. >> How do you know? >> Are you affiliated with the newspaper? >> Yes, I have my own. >> You have your own building, right? got you by the way. >> We ask you to leave, too. >> Uh, do you have jurisdiction on federal property >> until they arrive? Yes, we do. >> You do? Who gave you that authorization? >> They they have called for our assistance. >> Who gave you that authorization? >> I just read your thing. >> The VA The VA >> The VA police called you and asked you guys, >> where is it? Can I see it? >> Right here. It says here. >> No, I got it right here in my pocket. Ma'am, you want the law? Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> This is federal law 38 CFR 1.218. >> Mhm. >> As security kept escalating, demanding removal and treating the VA like their private home. The filmer was forced to play the trump card they never saw coming. for you. >> It says photographs for advertising or commercial purposes. Okay. Advertising or commercial purposes >> Mhm. >> may be taken only with the written consent of the head of the facility. >> Okay. There's a there you see that little uh period. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, >> advertising and commercial purposes need permission, right? That's what that sentence just said. Advertising and commercial purposes need consent. Right. Then after that period, it says photographs for news purposes may be taken at entrances, lobbies, foyers or in other places designated by the head of the facility. Okay. It doesn't say anything about photographs for news purposes may be taken with permission. Does it? >> No problem. >> Okay. >> How long do you guys plan on staying here? Because if you know they wanted >> Well, they I wanted to talk with the VA police. They said they'd talk with the VA police. So, I'd like to talk with them because >> as I already know on VA property, the federal police have jurisdiction, right? And that's why even if they called you here, let's say they called you here, right, and they didn't want us here. >> Mhm. >> And you charge us with a state trespassing charge. Let's say I wouldn't leave and you charge me with a state trespassing charge. >> I would go to state court and they would say, "Boom, dismissed." >> Because this is federal property. Only federal law applies. That's why there's federal law on the wall and not state law. Okay. >> And when he says dismissed, you got a problem with false arrest. >> I I don't but Okay. >> No, I I I I actually sue for it all the time. >> When you're qualified and you need to crumble [music] >> the police arrived and seemed ready to side with security until a crucial detail was revealed that made them hesitate on the spot. >> Five things the first amendment guarantee. Can you finish, sir? >> We're doing an investigative piece. >> Okay. >> Okay. But but I asked how long you guys intended on being here. >> Well, that just depends. I don't know how long we need. >> Okay. Well, the problem that we have is that you're now causing a disturbance. >> No, we're not. No one says I'm going to speak with one person. >> Yeah. No one's in the lobby. Who am I causing a disturbance to? >> People that have come and gone. >> No one said anything about me causing a disturbance. >> Okay. And and until they get here, we're we're all just going to hang out and be friends. Cool. >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. the if if the if the taxpayers pay for five officers to sit around let you know right now I >> I'll definitely talk that with your boss can I speak with you just for one second >> yeah whenever she stops talking >> okay so if they give authorization in the lobby so >> do you think >> some of these veterans in here don't think so >> do you think that they they think the lobby's empty >> when they gave us authorization >> thank you for your service >> is that what you think I think the lobby's Dude, when they when they said they can film in the lobby, did they say when there's nobody there? >> They could film in the lobby. They said you could be in the lobby. >> You said you could film. >> You said we couldn't be in the field. >> What's going on here? >> Nothing. Who What's going on with you? >> I'm wondering what what how can we help you? >> My name is Rebecca. >> Are you the administrator? We were waiting on >> one of them. >> Okay. Yeah. We would just come in to the publicly accessible areas just to do a story and uh these people would freak out on us. called the police. [music] We stayed here and waited and explained to them that uh again it's it's on the wall, but I also always keep a copy of the CFR, the Code of Federal Regulations, uh 38 CFR 1.218 that says photographs for news purposes. And just as the tension peaked, the truth about jurisdiction on federal property was exposed, leading to an unavoidable walk of shame. On November 24th, 2022, Braxton Smith, a black military veteran, was pulled over by police, leading to an unexpectedly tense encounter. >> Turn it off. Hands out the window. Put your hands out the window. I ain't moving. What's up? >> You going to lock it? >> Huh? Where's right now, man? Just >> don't worry about it. You keep your freaking hands out the window and shut your mouth. I'll figure it out. >> Yeah, >> he's riding. What's going on? >> What's up? How's it going? >> What is going on? >> Come on. You going to buckle me? I'm I'm tripping. What's up? I'm chilling. What's up? I'm chilling. I'm cool. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. Look at me over there. What's up? Come on, man. He resisted. Y'all winging. Come on. Y'all whing. I ain't doing [ __ ] now. Come on. Okay. What did I want to stop? >> What you mean? I got up in the same spot. Okay. How y'all doing? How y'all doing? You have a medical marijuana card, sir? >> Oh, >> no. >> No. >> How's it going? >> Although Smith remained calm and cooperative, officers forcibly dragged him out of the vehicle and accused him of resisting. But the situation didn't stop there. >> What was that? >> I heard a sound. Thought it was coming from right here. Do you have an alarm or something on you? >> Huh? >> You have an alarm or something on you? >> No. >> 1097 on the floor. Charlie, >> I got everything out of his pockets. >> All right. Give me your shoe. >> Oh, someone buy this. >> Well, right now you might be going to jail. >> For what? >> I'll talk to you about that in a second. Going to jail. I got a lot of driving license. I got pretty no crimes. I'm sure you don't. >> Yeah. Yeah. All right. You're not under arrest. Okay. But I have to read your rights so that I can you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in court. You have the right to talk to an attorney before we ask you questions and have an attorney present during questioning. If you can't afford an attorney will be appointed for you at no cost before question begins. And if you answer questions now, you can stop at any time attorney. Understand all that. What makes this spot safer for you than the where I tried to stop you? >> I mean, y'all hit the lights on. I ain't want to pull in the middle of the road. That's dangerous for y'all. I didn't want to pull in a well lit area, get y'all out of traffic. I ain't stupid. >> So, do you think that making a safe spot for us? >> I mean, I don't I ain't think it require authorization. I'm trying to be safe just like y'all. I I ain't posing a threat. I send y'all circ. You're trying to find a safe spot for you or for me? >> For both of us. >> No, you don't get to do that. >> Okay, that's understandable. >> You can make a claim that you're trying to make a safe spot for you. Is that what you're doing? >> All right. But why is this spot safer than that spot? >> It's It's a well lit area. I mean, it's not in the middle of the road. >> Do you see all those Do you see all those uh street lights down there? >> I understand what you're saying, bro. >> So, why is this spot more well lit than down there? >> I mean, what was so detrimental between me stopping right there and stopping right here? I I >> Well, actually, I'd like to ask you that. Why did you keep driving? >> I have no I just told you that. I just told you that. Why would I >> There's a lot of moving moving around in that car. >> You just looked in it. >> There's a lot of moving around whenever whenever I have my lights on. >> I rolled the windows down, put my driver's license, my registration out the window. That's the [ __ ] y supposed to ask when y'all first PULL SOMEBODY OVER, RIGHT? Y'ALL AIN'T DO NONE OF THAT. COME ON. I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO [ __ ] CITIZEN. >> Shut your mouth. >> Smith proactively drove to a well-lit area to stop, but the officers assumed he was trying to flee. When Smith attempted to explain his reasoning, it seemed to offend the officer's pride. >> Don't get all [ __ ] loud with me. That ain't going to change nothing. >> Hey, I'm just talking. I'm just talking. I'm having a conversation right with you, right? >> No, you're trying to talk over me and you're trying to set up a defense for yourself because what you did is called fail to obey. It's a fleeing charge and it's a felony three. >> Okay. >> If you'd like to go to jail on a felony charge, I'm good with it. >> I will not. >> Well, then quit trying to talk your way out of this and just talk to me and actually tell the truth >> because I'm not stupid. Okay. I know you're trying to play me. >> Okay. >> I just told you why. >> You think you're smarter than everyone else. >> What you just did to me. You just snatched me out my car. I rode one gave my license, my registration. You ain't read me no right. You snatched me out the car. You >> damn right I did. Why did I do that? Why? >> I don't know. I slightest idea. How about because >> run my name >> for 300 yard. How many different sirens did I turn on? >> I'm a black man. I'm asking you a question. I'm terrified of the police. >> Mr. Blackman, I'm asking you a question. How many times did How many different sirens did I turn on? How many times did I lay on my phone? >> I have this. When you said pull over, I pulled over. You said throw the keys out of the car. I complied. >> No. When I said pull over was back there when I turned my lights and sirens on. Get in the car. >> Damn. You don't want to >> get in the car. Shut your mouth. >> Smith had the right to drive to a safe, well-lit area before stopping. A right protected under the fourth amendment which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures. >> Was the seat pushed down like that? >> No. No. We opened it to see if you could and you could. So I have I'll call and do a nationwide. >> Yeah, that' be nationwide cuz he ain't got much here. Go. >> Is that weird? >> He was up there talking to all the dudes. >> He was definitely moving around and I saw his head ducking down a little bit. I thought that if anything it'd be under on the passenger side floorboard or the driver side floorboard. >> Yeah. >> Just cuz I But that was only whenever I finally put like lights in his back window that I saw. >> So, what's the process of buying a gun? Right. You go you go through the back road. I've bought guns my whole life. I'm a veteran. I'm served 10 years in. >> So why wouldn't you be able to get CWL is what I'm trying to get to you. >> But why why is that an issue if I'm within my legal limit? That's what I understand. >> Because I'm wondering if you're a prohibited possessor, just prohibited from purchasing from me. If I prohibited, you don't need to know what it means. I know what it means. >> Right. Right. Or wrong. Right. >> I know what it means. You don't need to know what it means. I'm just trying to ask questions to determine which category you fall in. >> What's the legal limit? >> If I can purchase a firearm, I can ride with it in my vehicle, right? If it's in a trunk. >> I don't know. That's why I'm asking. That's the law I studied. The Florida gun law. That's the law I That's the law I abide by. >> Great. Great. >> He clearly stated that he legally possessed his firearm and displayed no threatening behavior. Yet, police remain suspicious and tried to twist the narrative against him. This incident highlights potential civil rights violations, including the use [music] of excessive force, baseless accusations, and racial bias. The officers involved may face legal consequences for unlawful detention, abuse of power, warrantless search, and racial discrimination. A society [music] can only grow in a healthy way when power is used properly, transparently, and always with people in mind, not to control them, but to serve and protect them. 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