just commit a Tres pass by open the door to my vehicle off cuz I don't trust you're not going to drive off how do I know who you are me that's then false arrest you put me in a Cell that's because you're not giving us details and at the moment we can't prove that this is your vehicle so unless you tell us we can arrest you for the necessity of obtaining your name and details the interaction began with officers stopping the driver Under Suspicion of potential criminal activity but he quickly questioned their Authority he emphasized that compliance would only follow after being presented with a clear legal basis under Section 163 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 a person driving a motor vehicle on a road must stop the vehicle on being required to do so by a constable in uniform however the driver argued that simply stopping the vehicle did not justify further demands without specific reasoning his refusal to hand over documents led to immediate tension H how you doing all right the just first of all just wondered what you recording for my safety and yours what sorry for my safety and yours your safety yes what you think we're going to do to you well it's 10: to 2 in the morning I'm trying to go home oh okay fine that was going to be our first question and also just wonder what you hand in the back of the bar mate doors clothes food um okay fine could you open it up so we're going have a quick look cuz we basically we're out looking for something um so you could just have a quick look make sure there's nothing in should here and then we'll be on your way all right feel free to to open it yourself should be [Music] open try to really do me can you turn the engine off for me mate just so I know you're not going to drive over me you want to walk around the side of your car I have no need to turn the engine off well I would like you to please want make sure you're not going to suddenly reverse over something back of your car what you like and what I'm leaving in to to do are two different things okay just speed the entire process up be well you've said about looking in the back you're now currently looking in the back right I'm going to go around the back of my car I'm going to run you over your arm police for [ __ ] sake M it's honestly just a real quick check just to Lally write you out the inquiry and then we'll be we'll be done you driving off under what section do you want to see it sorry under what section do you want to see it 172 of the Road Traffic act 172 yeah I think you need to go back to policing school section one section section 172 is not what you require my license under there no need to half fish you go driving license mate I have my driving license right can you produce it to me then I can under what section do you want me to produce it to you I want to produce your driving license all right I haven't got time for this mate just leave the whole process up with you I know you're filming this for your little YouTube channel or whatever you do I don't have a YouTube channel mate so just produce me driving license mate under what section do you want to see it 172 the road TR it's not SE 17 fine 176 I'll Google it in a minute 175 Jesus the officers requested the driver's license and proof of insurance claiming they were conducting a routine check for potential violations according to section 164 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 a person driving a motor vehicle on a road must on being so required by a constable produce their license for examination the driver did not deny this obligation but demanded the officers articulate the precise legal Authority they were using using to escalate the encounter the officer's inability to provide a clear explanation irritated the driver who accused them of fishing for violations the out mate mate you you've stopped me at 10 2 in the morning I'm trying to go home I've just finished work okay fine let's play let's not obstruct the police I not obstructing the police you have now just committed trespass by open the door to my vehicle off cuz I don't trust that you're not going to drive off how do I know who you are how do I know this is stolen okay so play the game mate let's not stupid okay can you please take your hand I want you to turn your engine off you're not going to drive over me need your my are not than restricting my keys right what do you do for work man I have interest to bring you home at this time or I'm a mechanic mechanic I've literally just had to go and take four injectors out of a diesel Mond just coming on yeah all right okay have you got a driving license I do have a driving license you just Hur talking to quick we can deal what we need to deal with well if what you need to deal with is a bit more important you know I have nothing in yeah but this might be I'm concerned that you're linked to it okay so that's why I'm asking you driving license I'm just shown you I've got full give me a driving license I really haven't got time for this that is not the attitude to have mate you're not a comedian you're not funny I'm not saying I'm a comedian I'm saying I'm funny do it the WR way I'm getting cold Jesus tensions peaked when an officer opened the vehicle door without consent claiming it was necessary to ensure compliance the driver immediately challenged this action stating it constituted aggravated trespass as per the criminal justice and public order act 1994 section 68 a person commits aggravated trespass if they trespass on land and do anything intended to obstruct or disrupt a lawful activity by opening the door without sufficient justification the officers failed to respect the boundaries of lawful procedure this act further solidified the driver's stance against their perceived misconduct your name mate are we going to go around in circles yeah well I need to know that you have a driving license in un short before I let you drive out of here don't I and under what section of the road traffic out 1988 do you wish to see it you already got to make me Google it well if you need to Google it and you're armed response officer it's a bit bad that you're you're carrying out traffic my knowledge it's section 172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 but if you want me to I will do so under what section have you stopped me hey under what section have you stopped me 172 is Right traffic act no go what is it then 1 Section 3 sorry you stopped me under Section 163 163 that's the one thank you right so under what section do you want to see so what under what section do you want to see my license mate who are you I'm me right well you're not going anywhere then until I find out who you are that's fine so you going to stay all night yeah what you wanted to go home phases me none you stop me you've unlawfully endered my property you have a driving license and you want sure to drive this vehle I have a driving license I'm sure to drive this vehicle well prove it to me then have you done me your driving license under what section of the Road Traffic 98 it's not 163 163 officer I don't care re you your driving license you refusing to do so no I'm not refusing to do so aren't you no I'm not I'm requesting what section you want to see it I've just told you and youve just told me so no no no no no no no no no I've just told you what section you've stopped me I've asked you what section you want to see my license and I'm telling you give me a driving license I haven't got time for this okay so NE review hand over your driving license or just tell me who you are so I know that you're insured you go driving license who's the vehicle insured it is currently so who are you and who is the policy held by I'm not going to tell you that am I you tell no you're not cuz the policy is held by the same person that owns the vehicle and the same person is sitting in the freaking driver's seat so you're saying that you are the insured party and the registered keeper yeah yes so who's that me who's that who's you you can go around this all you we canate we're going to be here all night you address and we can just presume this is stolen yeah and then we'll Nick you so which one would you rather and you Nick me that's then false arrest you put me in a Cell that's because you're not giving us and at the moment we can't prove that this is your vehicle so unless you tell us we can arrest you for the necessity of obtaining your name and details all right so either you do it or you don't do it but either way we'll we'll get the details all right your attitude stinks your attitude stinks M I've asked you a simple question no you've asked my colleague a simple question you've asked me absolutely didly you just an obnoxious little trick excuse me right can I have her shoulder number yeah when you tell me your details yeah no no no no no no no you are you are required yeah you're required your driving license I've asked you to do that and your certificate insurance which you've refused to do right I am required under a section that you can tell me and I'm requesting you to tell me you know it so you're just wasting my time aren't you I do know it you stopped me yeah this is your job not mine I know and if you just show me your driving license you would have been on your you don't know your job and she has just called me a prick what's your driving license I see how you avoid you you avoid that one yeah she's just called me a prick that if I called any member of the public out there a prick that would be a section five public disorder would it or would it not so she has now just called me a prick and you are not going to give me her shoulder number getting agitated what you like right you're not getting out of this okay produce your driving license tell me what section you want to see my driving license it will take you 30 seconds to Google know it's pissing you off calling me a prick isn't exactly very professional the you're both armed officers and you've carried out a traffic stop and don't even know two basic legislations to carry out properly is beyond me I was stopped by traffic 2 days ago okay and it took 2 minutes to carry out our stop right so you just basically want the ACT section I'm requiring you to drive you driving uses H and then you were going to do it is that right is that I don't know what I said the officer suggested that the driver's vehicle might be stolen or involved in criminal activity which they argued Justified their demands under Section 165 of the Road Traffic act 1980 8 a constable may require the driver of a motor vehicle to produce their insurance and registration documents to verify ownership however the driver calmly pointed out that such suspicions require reasonable grounds not vague assertions he argued that their approach was more indicative of profiling than legitimate investigation undermining The credibility of their [Music] claims it will be all the time that we're sat here trying to find out who you are it's not my problem you don't know you good job there we go 165 oh Jesus Christ took us that long there we go SE 164 would have been a hell of a lot easier hey takes 30 seconds I just want a drift nice very cool nice nice I just want to dri yeah very cool six points in 2019 another three points in 2021 Construction in use I'm going to C over all of them um so just light me so what you been doing C well I left work I've just gone to take out the work in the mechanic side things all the carry side of things no this just a van I bought V needed a clutch but Panic stuff tonight yeah how far away I was in ashid in Berry me okay house number I don't know it's a mate so so how is it you're coming back at this time in the morning cuz I finished work at10 time we walk out about half1 yeah then had to go and pick his car up from the garage which is uh what's the name of that road um it's a little High Street in ashed towed that back to his house pulled the injectors out so I can get them tested tomorrow he's friend of yeah okay is that essential at this time of night would you say well he's a recovery driver who needs his car to get to work see what I'm get again not essential is It ultimately but I'm a mechanic is how I make my money no I appreciate that I appreciate you're at working um actually a wing there I don't know decided to fall off Le you still got a bit of it left exactly you planning to fix your front number PL back on at some point permanently yeah tomorrow when I go back into work in like 6 hours time thank you for your time feel free to go been an enjoyable 17 minutes but I would like her shoulder number yours I'm not bothered about your reaction was way over the top but a reaction by the sounds of the radio you got a lot of [ __ ] FS going on at the moment exactly so that's why we stopped you in the first place that I'm I'm not disagreeing I'm not saying that you're a [ __ ] because I'm in a little combo van I understand why you stopped me you have every right as I stated you have every right to but if you're going to carry out a traffic stop at least learn two legislations to carry it out it's is this not rocket science 16364 will give you everything you need on any traffic stop I know that's it that's all it is it's a simple thing is us like I hate when your powers get questioned because I know why even like I appreciate the power obviously clearly exists you clearly know about it so why have you just wasted 17 minutes with both of our lives what's the point of all this exercise the point is because now you'll know next time you come up against someone like me yeah Section 163 section 164 or section 165 the point is is is it because you have points in your license and you're bitter about it is this trying to get [ __ ] about points on my I couldn't give two [ __ ] I'm going to get revenge when I go to court and win the cases and then counter claim against met police and Brighton why you keep getting all these points like there must be something because I do this you do what sorry I do this this is what I do I hold you to the legislation okay and traffic or any other little babby Bobby just thinks oh well we're [ __ ] getting back we we'll find something and we'll do this clear you've done something wrong though to to get to points in a fine to have had how many points have you had at at one point I think you yeah so clearly you must be doing something wrong oh it depends how you look at wrong or it well clearly clearly you have been depends how you look at us AR wrong so you if you want to just play the legislation game then we can you know it doesn't matter all you've done is just waste your time I'm wasting my time well you clearly have cuz you were on your way home and now this has taken 20 minutes 20 minutes yeah that's fine by me I don't care because to me it's the fact of I have two armed officers one extremely [ __ ] rude extremely [ __ ] rude that are carrying out a traffic stop to look for stolen articles weapons or stolen vehicles and you don't even know the two things that allow you to carry that traffic stop out and then you carry out section 16364 the details are correct you're not happy then you choose any other random act you really want to try I could smell cannabis I'm searching you under section 23 the misus of drugs act or section one of pace or whatever you want to choose but that's the point you come along you're on the section one like the traffic off I had I've got the video he come up to the window and he was just like basically cuz I had a car on the back on my recovery truck and he was like where you off to I said it's broken down I'm taking it to the garage simple as no a problem you got your license on you I was like under what section do you want it he said well under Section 163 I've stopped you and under Section 164 I want to see your license okay there you go mate see you later 2 minutes later I was off on my way okay after the stop concluded the driver began educating the officers about the importance of you understanding the specific laws that they were enforcing during traffic stops he highlighted that their lack of clarity especially after the female officer insulted him was unprofessional and insisted on obtaining her badge number as accountability was crucial the driver backed his argument by referencing the police and criminal Evidence Act 1984 which mandates transparency and fairness in police actions and stress the need for proper conduct to avoid wasting people's time he also pointed out that under the road traffic Act 1988 officers must articulate Reasonable Suspicion before escalating interactions finally the situation escalated when the cop tried to claim he was in the right refusing to acknowledge their mistakes which further frustrated the driver I don't have an issue when officers are working in the par duty if you can't come up to me and just because I'm wearing a costume that says police that I can open your door I can take your keys I can arrest you cuz you haven't given me your license you can't you legally can't I have not refused to give you my details I told you I will when you tell me why you want them I ask you for your address you going to give it to me sorry if I ask you for your address are you going to give it to me no why cuz you haven't got any power to do that right so you have the power I do but I have the right to know what power correct if you really really want to exactly that's the point how do I know that you're actually a police officer have you showed me your warrant badge no but I'm inan uniform it doesn't mate I can go on eBay byy exactly what you're wearing one you don't actually have anything apart from the one police logo that's hidden by a body cam the radio and one on the back that I can buy on eBay as well I can buy the flat jacket on eBay I can buy the belt I can buy the gun taser the radio the gun on the leg can you buy all that stuff I could buy handcuffs taser I can get a yellow handle [ __ ] thing easy enough radio I can get and a big Marks police vehicle the Sussex police did you get all that as well what you got Glock 19 17 Glock 17 I can get an air rifle Glock 17 looks exactly like that you never know the difference so what's your point my point is just cuz you are wearing that and that doesn't make you a police officer well no but I'm warranty don't I yeah have you showed me your warrant badge no so I don't know if you are or not you're not wearing a shoulder number how do I know you're a mechanic I got boot full of tools and I've got four diesel injectors sitting there do prove anything is it code reader sitting there we can have this discussion all night long like no but this is my point you're not going to make your point and I'm clear going to make mine am I you're using your power on me yeah yeah that's right yeah which you can do yeah yeah and I'm using my power to know why you're using the power if you search me under section one of pace you have to fill in a report correct yeah stop search record yeah stop search trle which I can either have off you then or collect from a police station within 7 days because that's my legal entitlement to have a record of the search yeah my legal entitlement when I drive a car and I get stopped is to know why you want these details well no you're legally required to produce them I'm not legally required to tell you the ACT section am I no but I am I am allowed to ask you you can ask me but I'm not legally required to tell you and right and you are required to tell me if I ask same as if I ask for your details that says in that legislation that I have to tell you under what section I'm demanding itely nothing in right so let's put it this way you pull me out my car you arrest me you search me and you don't tell me why you don't read me searing is different you don't read me my rights you can take me to a cell you put me in a Cell you then release me with no charges I can then sue you well you could I can but if an officer was to arrest you that's down to their own justification isn't it down to their own justification but they have to have proof and means behind it just cuz I don't give you my license have suspicion susp I is not a crime yeah but suspicion is one of the major basis of all power for police officers to detain people isn't it right suspicion is not your power to detain suspicion then has to lead on to the proof to act upon a legislation you you you suspect that I'm carrying cannabis you have to have some reasonable answer to it my van stinks of cannabis that's reasonable grounds to suspect that gives you reasonable grounds under section 23 to then search me and any vehicle or vessel I am traveling in correct y right that's legally carried out y you had a suspicion you then have reasonable behind it yeah and you then carried it out lawfully if there is no smell of cannabis which is normally always their common one and you then search me you don't give me any legislation as to why section one of pace section 23 even the anti-terrorism out was stupid this is what I'm saying so I and as we've already discovered as a warranted officer I still have those Powers don't you do so the requ is for you to produce to me your documents when requested to do so you and if you don't tell me that's not part of the the legislation right you arrest me something I've done for you you arrest me and you don't you arrest me and you don't read me my rights what happens it could potentially be invalid no it is invalid if I video evidence unless it's impractical to do so at the time yeah if I have video evidence that I am in full stable mind not aggressive nothing like that you arrest me you don't read me in my rights you then book me into the station yeah I then take all that evidence and I go to court to sue you that's false arrest false imprisonment and kidnapping all in one that's probably a little bit no no no it's not it is it's been done several times especially against met and Sari it's false arrest false imprisonment and kidnapping they have interest where mind you've actually only got two nfas on your pnt record why do you have such an issue with the police because you think you're untouchable the driver maintained his position by reiterating that officers must adhere to the law without overstepping their Authority according to the police and criminal Evidence Act 1984 section 2 officers conducting a sech or questioning must provide the person with their name the police station they are attached to and the grounds for their actions the driver highlighted that this transparency was lacking making their actions appear arbitrary and unlawful his insistence on legal Clarity left the officers visibly frustrated exposing their procedural missteps who does police the police in general yep okay so you proved it generaliz you open my door and I going to take the keys out of my because I thought you were going to drive off you got not you you if you go back and you read mhm it wasn't Bernard hogen how who was it um the IPC sure it was the IPC about it that removing the keys without enough justification is trespass and it is aggravated trespass when you open my door and then I say to you can you get your hands off my keys that is aggravated trespass that is actually a criminal offense not really because I suspected you were about to try and drive off does matter what I then suspected vehicle you suspect me what with a BMW X5 behind me Y and and that was for the safety not very far for me to go but up to that point had I given you any cause to believe that I would drive off yeah cuz you refused to tell your engine off and you refused to tell me who you were cuz I have no legal rights to tell my engine thought expected you may be involved in criminality this may be let's let's let's let's put it this way you followed me you were at a roundabout by the Tesco's garage yep I went around the inside of the ambulance y You Then followed up behind me I didn't moved over to the left lane cuz you're riding up my [ __ ] ass you moved over to the left lane we were in the left lane mate no near us yeah no that's why I moved over to the left lane cuz I knew it was you police so I moved over you moved over I want to come up here to go home so I moved into the right lane you moved into the right lane I already [ __ ] knew you were pull at me mhm I know I already knew so I knew I was pulling in here mhm now if I was that [ __ ] worried would I have even [ __ ] bothered to stop if I was in a stolen vehicle if I was car trying to play it cool and hoping that I just look at you take one look at you and go now you're clearly F and drive off and then I ask you What legislation that that's like [ __ ] like winding the key in it not really well it [ __ ] is if if this is stolen or I got [ __ ] in the back that shouldn't be in here no you'd be surprised and then I ask you what section and [ __ ] get you go riled up proper you'd be very surprised you're just [ __ ] lighting a fuse for [ __ ] simple as that you you you all think you can forcibly do what you want yeah but you subject to the law the same as any other UK citizen aren't you and therefore if I tell you to produce your driving license to me I expect you to do so because you're legally obliged to do so yeah and I want to know what section yeah but I'm not legally obliged to give you that you don't legally tell Google it if you want you don't legally tell me what section I don't have to do it well yes you do no I'm not reement is still there and it still exists look we're going to go yeah it still exists it still exists going get my but the difference is it still exists it still exists that's correct you're subject to it you have to do it if iy you have to do it okay that's the end of the discussion no no no no no see that's the thing interesting discussion I'm getting because you request it I have to do it cuz you request I have to do why because that's the law right but I don't know if it's the law you can say get out of your car crawl on your knees over to the Petro Gage and lick the [ __ ] window cuz I'm requesting you to do it cuz I'm a police officer yeah cuz I'm a cons okay fine that's not [ __ ] law you know what it says word for word in section 164 Section 163 you right 163 you any any any person driving a any person driving a motor vehicle must stop when requested to by an officer in uniform or traffic officer failure to comply with this section fa failing to comply with this section is contravention and is liable to prosecution of [ __ ] whatever is level one F or some [ __ ] no doesn't say that um so there we go does it not no you didn't even know Section 163 now you know it but apparently now you know it even though 31 minutes ago you didn't know it now you know Section 163 word for word I confused it with section 172 which is a postal requisition requirement for a driver to buy the details with was driving a vehicle at the time been a fence yeah so therefore I confuse that with Section 163 but how can you conf confuse 163 the basic traffic stop legislation basic do you have any idea how much legislation we have to remember not a lot to carry out a simple traffic stop if I could if I know 163 164 and 165 to carry out a traffic stop section one of pace section 23 the misuse of drugs act section five public disorder and I'm a member of the [ __ ] public M and fireworks law if I know that and I'm a member of the damn public this not my job I know but you clearly don't have a lot else to do other than read up on this sort of thing do you well cuz I like to expand my knowledge that's a good thing do you do you know how to service your car I do and why did you why so you know how to do that but you're not a mechanic you're a police officer that saves me money exactly so I like to know the laws why to keep myself no don't say what it does cuz then I go to court and I [ __ ] win and then I counter claim have you won huh have you won before I've won three times against Sor and twice against met what I of interest uh sorry was oh no it wasn't s yeah it was sori sorry was construction of use sorry was no insurance met was no insurance you won you won those cases yep met was no insurance and Essex was failing to failing to uh display a vehicle index plate right and you won weed yeah I won them but the points are still on your license or no cuz they're new ones that I'm now going to go and fight okay okay well I've got to say this is be quite an interesting chat um well I still want her caller number you can go around it's all you [ __ ] want you can have it mate it's 4876 4876 name I'm not giving you the name she's Firearms off you going have the caller number I need a surname you know you've got the caller number that's enough to identify and what station are you out of Gilford you're sorry yeah was that no [ __ ] surprise should have guessed that by a bonnet should have guessed that b a bonnet of the car well okay you're treading very lightly to Mets area no off I know it is up until the end of London Road I know your boundaries okay well um youself do after lengthy back and forth arguments the officers ultimately backed down allowing the driver to leave without issuing citations or further pursuing the matter under the Human Rights Act 19 98 article 8 everyone has the right to respect for their private and family life their home and their correspondence by holding his ground the driver demonstrated how knowledge of the law could effectively challenge corrupt or overreaching behavior by authorities this encounter underscored the importance of understanding legal rights to counter improper conduct by law enforcement like And subscribe for more police cam stories watch the next recommended video click to watch now