Are you serious? Do you guys have ID? You're not getting no ID. That's That's funny. That's funny, dude. That's funny. I doubt it. Why not? Why would I? Did I break some laws? Did I break a law? Did I Did I break a law? Until I break a law, you don't get my ID. You're on their property. Show me your ID. A command that may sound routine, but when no crime has been alleged, who is actually breaking the law? No, you can't. You can't [ __ ] us, dude. We know what we doing. We know what we doing. Yeah, he needs to because this guy right here is fixing to do something very stupid. When police demand ID without legal grounds, it can become evidence in a civil rights violation lawsuit. Right on a public road near the Fort Bragg gate, two people were simply filming the entrance with a camera, but just minutes later military police arrived and made a controversial claim. That's a Fort Bragg gate right there. It's a secure gate. It goes on the Fort Bragg Air Force base. We'll see if they have a problem with us out here in public filming the gate. Military police. Oh, [ __ ] I'm zoomed out too far. I don't know. I don't know. They can eat it though. I don't care. I don't care what they are. Got the military police out here, guys. We on Fort Bragg or close to Fort Bragg. We not even on Fort Bragg. We just close. What are y'all doing? What are y'all doing? Filming. There you go. There you go. You got it. I just want to know like why. Just because there's just like y'all can do whatever you want to do, but on Fort Bragg We're not on Fort Bragg. No, but y'all are pointing the camera. Absolutely. We absolutely filming that gate. Absolutely. And we going to be filming it for a while. But that's not allowed. It's not allowed. Tell me the statute. Okay, well I'd suggest you get him cuz you don't know what you're talking about. Okay. Federal installation. We're not on federal installation. Absolutely. I'm pointing my camera towards you. Yeah. You tell me how why I can't point it over there. So, you can't film no federal installations. I You need to You need to brush up on that cuz you absolutely wrong. You about photography? Come on. Really? Shouldn't you have to look that up before you come out here bothering us civilians? I'm just Honestly, I'm just here to make sure you're not causing a problem. I'm honestly Do you feel like we causing problems? Okay, thank you. Thank you. Okay, thank you. After a few minutes of conversation, the situation seemed to calm down as some officers said they were just checking the situation. The cameraman continued to insist that they were standing on public property and exercising their legal right to film, but it seemed the story was far from over. Wow. I'd I'd say that was a little overkill, wouldn't y'all? Damn it, here comes some more. Jesus Christ. What the hell? Yeah, man. What's up? What did we Is this all just really necessary? How you figure that? >> [laughter] >> Show me where it says that. How about How about I'm going to record it regardless of what you say? You gave an oath to defend the Constitution, right? We're not on We're not on military Hang on. Hang on. We're not on military property. Absolutely. I absolutely yes. Absolutely can do that. I suggest you look it up about public photography. No, but I ain't doing your job for you. Are you serious? You're not getting no ID. That's That's funny. That's funny, dude. That's funny. I doubt it. Funny. I doubt it. You're not getting no ID. That's That's funny. That's funny, dude. That's funny. I doubt it. You going to get me for what now? There's no There's no identifying statute in North Carolina. Are you serious? No, you can't. You can't [ __ ] us, dude. We know what we doing. We know what we doing. How do you want me to address you? You can call me good citizen. Yeah. What's the crime I'm going to know why he's asking for my ID and telling me to put my hands behind my back. He's got his hand on his weapon. It's not on my weapon. I'm resting my hand. Let's start over. Let's start over. You You talk to us because you look like you know what you're talking about. He don't. We just out here enjoying this beautiful day. We journalists. What we do. When the request for identification was refused, the officer immediately ordered them to turn around and place their hands behind their backs declaring they would be arrested for failure to ID. The tension between the two sides quickly escalated. At that moment, the conversation unexpectedly shifted when another officer stepped in and tried to clarify the entire situation. We can We can record that gate. No, I got the Constitution as my authorization. Yes. Yeah, he needs to because this guy right here is fixing to do something very stupid. That guy. Green. Yes. Talking about IDing arresting but not IDing. Are you serious? Is that why you cranky today trying to arrest somebody for failure to ID when there's no such statute? There's no such statute. But there's no such statute. Right, but he don't He knows that now. You need to school him. Right, exactly. You need to school him. And we can absolutely film that gate from where we at on public property. I I do. We We go around. We Yes, we can. We We can. And listen, guys. We can't even see what's going on over there. Do you see how far we are? Because we can. To To make y'all aware that we can do this. Exactly. No, this is so you learn something. Exactly. For all you guys. Y'all I mean, you can laugh it off if you want to, but this is educational. Did Did you Did you learn anything yet? Okay. I mean, that's cool. At least It used to willing to willing to you know, it acknowledge the the the way this was everything happened. Especially the green over here. He must must be his first day on the job. Like I've seen videos on YouTube like that that are similar. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. Kind of. I mean, I kind of understand why you're doing it. Right. Without being an [ __ ] that's exactly right. After a heated argument over the ID request and legal authority, some officers began to change their approach. Instead of escalating the situation, they shifted to discussing and rechecking information about the area where the cameraman were standing. And just a few moments later, a crucial detail emerged. And And y'all, if this is Fort Bragg property, y'all supposed to have it marked. Clearly marked, that is. Yep. So, that's something else maybe y'all could do, right? I mean, like I said, this is about education. But when Green come up here threatening to arrest me for not IDing, my my switch went off. The good guy Good guy's gone. You know what You know what I'm saying? But really, I mean, like I said, this is about education, right? So, now he'll know. He got educated at least on that part. Correct? That's all we trying to do. Right? We We're not trying to cause no havoc or none of that stuff, man. We actually want to be left alone, technically. Cuz if y'all wouldn't have come out here, we'd have probably been out here 5 more minutes, 10 max, and we'd have drove off. And said, "Hey, them guys know what they're doing." All right? I'm not trying to make you look like a fool or anything, dude. I really not. But it's not a good look. I got you, man. That's the smart thing to do. Absolutely. I agree. Green is at least educated on the ID part. All right, Green? Can you acknowledge that? No, no. I'm talking about on public property. You don't have no authority. Correct? Oh my god. If I break the law, maybe, but I'm not breaking the law. You know what I mean? You trying to play it off now like you know what you're talking about. it. really don't. You already established that, Green. Come on. You're not let making yourself look any better. Acknowledge the fact that you was wrong and I'll leave you alone. You can't do it, can't you? He can't do it. Yeah, guys. He can't He can't do it. He can't He can't He can't own up to his mistake. There you go, guys. There you go. Now, this man right here knows what he's talking about. Hey, Green. Have a good day, man. Don't be trying to arrest nobody for [ __ ] anymore. In the end, the incident closed with a lesson about civil rights and law enforcement practices. No handcuffs were used and no one was taken from the scene, but it leaves one important question. Do all law enforcement officers truly understand the limits of their authority? Citizens can sue police under Section 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights may face compensation payouts, disciplinary action, or even termination. Up next, a man was standing on the roadside in South Carolina with his camera rolling when police suddenly appeared. They claimed he was standing on private property and ordered him to leave immediately. What's up? Good, man. Baking a cake. Baking a cake? >> Yep. Yep. You want a piece? Huh? You want a piece when it's done? Hold on. Well, they don't want you on the property. When When we get on their property, then then they got problems, but >> You're You're standing on their property. This ain't their This ain't their property. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir, it is. No, it ain't. Yes, sir, it is. Come on, man. The entrance is right here. It's got to be somewhere for me to walk. It's got to be an easement. >> the other side of the road. It's got to be somewhere to walk on both sides of the road. You know that. No, sir. Anyway, this is called an easement. Before Before what you >> know Before you go any further, I know what I'm doing. Right? This is an easement. I got a map in my pocket, so don't do nothing stupid. This is what we're going to do. >> You got a what? I got a map that shows where their property's at, so don't do nothing stupid cuz that'll be bad. Okay. On y'all's part, not mine. >> going to do? You got an ID? I I always carry ID. You mind providing me with I do mind. Why not? Why would I? Did Did I break some laws? Did I break a law? >> have your ID for anybody we talk >> Did I Did I break a law? Until I break a law, you don't get my ID. You're on their property. I am not on their property. >> Yes, sir. Did You better show me a map, then. Did you Did you investigate? >> Listen. Listen, buddy. Don't buddy me. I don't got to talk to you, man. I'm telling you I'm not on their property. >> Listen. You got to You got to do your research Listen. Hold on. We got a call for service. Two gentlemen standing on the property. >> Then investigate. Listen. You're You're talking, but you're not listening. I'm listening. I already know what you're going to say. I know what you're going to say. >> We've got the owner here know what you're going to say. >> where you were standing on the property. What? Show me where their property's at. You're standing on their property. >> boss. Yes, sir, it is. No, it ain't. Yes, sir, it is. Okay. So, are you going to provide us with any ID? >> I am not. Why not? Cuz I haven't broken any law. >> Okay. All right. So, I'm going to ask you nicely if you want to record This is the easement, man. >> This is their property. >> It's the city property. He's on the other side of the road. Why you can't get The cameraman repeatedly insisted that he was standing legally on the roadside easement, while the officer maintained that the area belonged to the business. And just seconds later, the cameraman's blunt response made the atmosphere more heated than ever. Do not go near this property. Anything on this side of the road is their property. >> No, dude. Come on, man. >> Yeah, there's no dude. No No No No No. Yeah, there is a dude because I know I'm legal to stand right here. There's pictures of even you in their driveway. The right Walking back Walking through their driveway. How you figure Dude, we got to have somewhere to walk, man. Come on. I need a supervisor. They don't want you on the >> a supervisor right now. They don't want you on the I need a supervisor. Are you going to provide me with ID? I'm not. I need a supervisor. >> You're not getting a supervisor. >> Supervisor. Provide me with ID. No, supervisor first. >> going to provide me with your ID? Maybe if I get a supervisor. Well, you want to hand me your ID, then? Uh no, not until the supervisor gets here. Well, so you want me to do what you want, but when I ask you to do something >> You're a public servant. You serve me. I don't serve you. Until I break the law, you can't tell me what to do. >> Okay, give me a supervisor. Are you going to provide me with your ID? No, not you. I might give it to the supervisor. You might give it to the supervisor. Might. That's very un reassuring. Well, I don't know what to tell you, boss. What's your name? Uh Norris? Neal. Look, I'm not trying to be difficult, guys, but this ain't their property. No, I'm just I'm I'm standing up for what's right. That's what I'm doing. So, what's right? I'm on the easement. This is a This is a city easement right here. Come on, get your supervisor out here, man, before y'all do something crazy. We're not doing anything crazy. Okay, well, I'm not moving. All right. Come back. How can we help you? You can't help me. I don't need y'all's help. I'm a grown man. I'm 50 years old. I know how to walk up and down the side of the road. And y'all can't bully me. I'm not trying to bully you. >> Yes, you are. That That This gentleman right here trying to bully me and I know what's right and what's wrong. And I know this ain't their property. You already know. You're just trying to bully me to try to get your way because you you're some kind of authority over me, but you're not. You You have no authority over me whatsoever until I break the law. Is that not right? And I'm not breaking any law. Look like you know what You got some sense, but this guy here Tell me about not giving ID. Come on. When the request for identification was refused, the exchange between both sides quickly became tense. The cameraman repeatedly insisted that police only have the authority to demand ID if a law has been broken. At that moment, another officer approached and joined the conversation, seemingly opening the door to a possible resolution. Burton. I know where I can stand and where I can't stand, right? I already know this is a city easement. You You knew that. I I hope you knew that. When they tell you I'm on their property, you're supposed to investigate, right? If I'm standing right here a foot from the road, I got to have somewhere to walk because I can't walk in the road. And you got to have somewhere to walk on both sides. What's going on? What's up, man? You guys from here in North Carolina? We from Yeah, one of those. One of those? Yeah. Yeah. You guys PI? No. I'm I'm I'm good with this out here, enjoying this beautiful day, man. What's your name? I can't pronounce that. You can't pronounce McDonald? McDonald I Some of it's rubbed off, too, man. McDonald, y'all got badge numbers? They don't give us badge numbers. Please. Adam 29. Adam 29. What's your other guy? Adam 29. The same? Y'all all the same? Y'all driving the same car? 28? I got you, man. Your name? Uh pronounce that for me. Hurd? Is that right? I butchered names, man. And I And I'm not trying to disrespect none of you guys, man. I don't hate cops. I just hate when they try to come out like this guy right here bullying trying to bully somebody off of a freaking easement. Telling me this is their property, knowing good well it's not. It don't matter what we filming for as long as we're not breaking the law. You're obviously filming for something. Absolutely. Everybody does stuff for a reason. See, you got to give some kind of directives, man. He's a grown man. He knows how to walk across the road. Well, you're right. Right, but this guy here was trying to Oh, man, he was about to do something stupid. Oh, no, this is their property. Oh, he showed us a picture. You was on their property. They absolutely did not. And that's the problem these days. Y'all try to It don't matter. We're walking back and forth. We can We got to have somewhere to walk. We're not going in their parking lot. We was never in their parking lot. It goes about where the fence is at. That's where the property stops. And down there, it actually goes in further. I know I got I got resources. >> Yeah, it's called Greenbrier County tax map. Hey, whatever, man. Yeah. But the fact that it's all pulled up, the GIS map to see where their property line is so you can legally walk and not be on their property shows me that you kind of are wanting to push the buttons, right? The cameraman continued to maintain that he had not trespassed on private property and that everything he was doing was taking place in a lawful area. Meanwhile, the officers began to reconsider the information they had received earlier. And as the truth about the location gradually became clearer, the situation suddenly started to shift in a different direction. We're trying to educate people, especially officers, especially this guy right here. Well, I just educated him. Yes, I did. Now you know you can't make me move from right here. I And you said this was their property. Did you not? It is not their property. Huh? It's not their property. How you going to keep saying that? He just told He just told you it was. You can buddy me all day long, buddy. You're a tyrant. That's what you are. That's what you are. You try to bully people. This guy right here didn't try to bully nobody. I'm going to know what I'm going to do. I'm going to wait here until y'all leave and then we might leave later. I know. I already know that. I already know that, man. So, why you keep telling me something I already know? Why can't I park in this zone? Please do that. Yeah, I'd like to see that one. So, if y'all want to find a parking lot to put your car in and then come back, follow me. You know what? Y'all can actually pull it up yourselves. Since you wanted me to pull the GIS map? Y'all can pull up the state statute, okay? So, we're going to go ahead and go. If you would just please put your car into some type of parking lot for me. Not theirs. No, I'm not. I want a supervisor. For what? Because because y'all trying to give us unlawful orders here. Okay, I need a supervisor. I want a supervisor. No, there's no emergency number around here. I just told you you're lawfully standing right here. No, you was talking about the truck, man. I I heard you. I got you, man. I got you, but I'd like for y'all to call me a supervisor. No, y'all don't do that? If I request a supervisor, okay. I'll see about that, too. We can go to the 4 McGee Street. Okay? Yes, sir. Y'all have a good one. All right. Trying to give unlawful orders. Have a nice shift today. Showed the boss you and then they got to give directions. Oh, you got to move your truck. But we're not going to we're not going to make you do it, but but we're not going to pull up the statute, either. Because there ain't one. No handcuffs were used and no arrest was made. But the incident raises an important question. Were the officers' initial demands truly based on clear legal grounds? In a civilized society, the law does [music] not exist only to grant authority to law enforcement, but also to protect the freedom and dignity of citizens. 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