I need to identify myself. I need to identify myself? Yeah. What did I do something wrong? No, you're free, so you're outside of state police officer or whatever. Uh-huh. And everything, so >> Yeah. Do you have any identification on you? I don't answer questions, sir. Uh okay, well, we need to find out who you >> No, you absolutely don't. I'm in public property taking pictures. Right. Show me your ID. A command often heard from police officers. But just minutes later, the situation begins to spiral beyond their own control. I need to see some ID. You need to identify yourself right now cuz right now you're failing to identify. When a peace officer, you know, asks you your identification, then you need to ID yourself. When authority meets someone who knows the law, things can quickly become very uncomfortable. And this time, the camera captured every second of the confrontation. Right outside the DPS headquarters in Houston, a man is simply standing and filming in a public place. But just seconds later, officers immediately approach and begin questioning him. What's up, sir? How's it going? What are we doing? What's that? What are we doing? Oh, we're just recording today. Recording what? Just out in public, recording. Recording what for? Oh, we're I'm doing a story. Um who you with? Let me see some ID. ID? Uh-huh. Like my journal credentials or driver's license, yeah. Some ID. You need to identify yourself. I need to identify myself? >> Yeah. What did I do something wrong? No, you're free, so you're outside of state police officer or whatever. Uh-huh. And everything, so Let me see your ID. It's plain and simple. Let me tell you I understand, but I'm just I'm just asking if I did something wrong. Okay, no, I'm not saying you did anything wrong. I said I need to see your ID. Um We have a we have a cute suspicious activity. Right now, this is suspicious activity. This is not a normal everyday operation, okay, so can I see some ID? I don't have any identification on me. You don't? No, not on me. Okay, well, let me start with your name, then. You don't have any on you? You don't have a wallet on you? Is this your vehicle? No, it's not. Where's your vehicle at? Am I Am I in trouble or something because I got I'm just trying to do a story. >> Okay, I'm just asking questions. All right. Well, if I can get back to my story so I can go ahead and finish. I need to see some ID. You need to identify yourself right now cuz right now you're failing to identify. When a peace officer, you know, asks you your identification, then you need to ID yourself. Is that the the Texas statute? That's the law. Is that the Texas law? That's a peace officer. I'm not staying here and going to ask questions. You need to produce some ID. Am I being detained? Yes, you are. All right, then I'm just going to remain silent. Do what? I'm going to remain silent. As the cameraman repeatedly asks whether he has done anything wrong, the officers continue insisting that he provide identification. But surprisingly, just minutes later, the situation takes a completely different turn. Statements made earlier begin to change, and the exchange quickly shifts into a debate about the right to film in public. Is he with you? I'm going to remain silent. Walk straight over here. I'm staying here with this one. Where's your vehicle at? From Texas? Are we still being detained? You're not being detained at all. You're free to leave. Well, right now we're asking questions. So you're detaining me? If you're not going to ID you identify yourself, you're free to go. Okay. So y'all going to leave or what are we doing? What are you doing? We're just out in public taking pictures. Are you taking specific pictures of the state police? Yes, sir. Personal use. Personal use. That's a little suspicious. It's not everyday that people take pictures of the of the state police you know, building. They should. No. Uh man, that's that's that's even more suspicious when you ask to ID yourself. You're not going to need that taser. I'm not on you. I'm not worried about So so you're saying I'm a suspicious person? After stating that the cameraman is free to leave at any time, the situation appears to calm down. However, the officers continue watching him and asking more questions about why he is filming outside the DPS [music] headquarters. Then, when another officer joins the conversation, the situation begins to shift in a new direction. Identify yourself. Oh, okay. I I thought this was a consensual contact. If this is If I'm being detained, then I'm just going to exercise my Fifth Amendment right from this time. So you're free to leave. Okay. I don't have to do anything. Can I ask you a question? We've got some people here that are conducting a pretty sensitive investigation. I need you to respect the privacy of those who are not in uniform and uh not taking Okay, what reason have I given you to suspect that I am not that I would be taking You told us you You just said you are. pictures of them. Well, I'm asking you about the people who are not in uniform. I'm asking you taking pictures of the guy cuz you're filming right now. You are. Yeah, I know I'm filming. I I hope you continue to >> And that one is that one is also And that is suspicious. Yes. Yes, sir. Can you go back to my question? I I'm sorry. Just address your concerns. I always film when I'm interacting with law enforcement. And and I'm sorry. Can you respect Can you respect the privacy of the people who are not in uniform that Of course, that's actually pretty sensitive. Of course, we're not we're not filming anybody that's that's out of uniform or in a personal car unless unless they do something suspicious or odd, you know, and then of course we would film them because, you know, their behavior is odd. But uh we're not here to get, you know, uh uh anybody's personal information. We have no intention to We're not intending to do anything. Okay. So Other than just taking pictures, do you want to tell us why you're here? No. Uh just taking pictures. How long you been out here? Uh not very long. I was kind of admiring your gymnasium that you got out back there. It's nice. Is that a gymnasium? Like a workout room or Something like that. I see weights weights machines in there. Any more questions, guys? Do you have any questions or like to speak to anybody you work with? Okay, we appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. Is there anything else? Uh that's that's everything. All right. Appreciate it. Thank you. Y'all take care. We would invite you to leave anytime you want. The conversation begins to settle down as both sides explain their perspectives. But when the officers mention sensitive activities inside the building, the situation starts to shift in another direction. And at that moment, the encounter moves into the next moments filled with curiosity. He's getting his camera ready. I think he wants to take a picture. You going to put this on YouTube? Yes, sir. Am I still being detained? I didn't say that you're detained. I didn't say that you're being detained. Just trying to figure out what you're doing. Oh, we're just taking pictures and recording out in public. That's it. Okay. Did you drive here? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. At this point, the conversation [music] seems less tense as both sides remain relatively calm. However, the officers have not completely left, and the cameras [music] continue recording everything. Just a few minutes later, a new development begins to unfold. How are you doing, sir? >> No arrest is made and the encounter ends in a cautious [music] silence from both sides. The cameraman continues recording the final moments before leaving >> [music] >> while the officers seem to realize that the situation had gone further than they initially expected. Up next, after standing and filming outside the facility for a while, everything seems relatively quiet but the presence of the camera begins to draw attention from inside as a few vehicles move in and out and a man starts walking toward him. This guy is walking down to me. I don't know. We'll see. There we go. We got someone following me. Got a van coming the other way. Nope. About to get the hell out of here. About to get out of here. I'm going to wait a little bit cuz that guy just pulled in so we'll see. [ __ ] trucks. A few gestures from the employees make it clear they are not comfortable with the presence of the camera. And just when it seems the situation might remain limited to distant observation, the next move [music] happens. A direct exchange begins and the situation quickly shifts into a more tense phase. See if he has a gun or something. Excuse me? No, I didn't ask for help. I didn't ask for help. Are you a sheriff or something? Security? Are you guys testing the the sewage to see the rates for the virus? What company do you work for? Yeah. How you doing? Good. Have a great day. He said 12 2020. Even after making it clear that he wasn't doing anything wrong, the presence of the camera still made some people in the area uncomfortable. And as expected, just minutes later, the situation begins to change when law enforcement is called to the scene. What seemed like a simple conversation is now about to turn into a much more tense confrontation. Hi. Good. What was your last name? McGillvary. Do you have a badge number? It is 4015. Awesome. Thank you. Yep. Just curious, do you need anything or is there any problems? No, he came out and asked me. I asked him a question and then he turned around and called you guys. Okay. So. All righty. Are you Are you on your way out then or Uh I'm going to be here as long as I need to be. Can I get your name and badge, please? Sure. Name and badge though? My name is right here. I don't know how to Oh, your name is right here. Hi officer right here. How you doing, brother? Officer right here. You have any identification on you? I don't answer questions, sir. Uh okay. Well, we need to find out who you are. No, you absolutely don't. I'm on public property taking pictures. Right. So, you have no right to know who I am. Suspicion is not a crime. You can't Suspicion is not a crime. Suspicion is not a crime, sir. Hey, you go talk to the two stripes over there. He didn't have a problem with it so He's not done with you. You should watch your mouth, okay? Sir, I don't know who you are. You don't need to know who I am. You don't need to know who I am. And you need to stop lying to me. Yeah, you are being rude cuz you're lying to me. Just hang tight. Am I being detained? Yes, you are being detained? Are you serious? Yes. For what? What crime? You are being Reasonable articulable suspicion of what crime? Of what crime? Of what crime? I know it all, sir. I know the law. Sir, why am I being detained? And if you keep walking away, I'm going to the other officer, sir. You don't need to walk towards him. Sir, why why am I being detained? Huh? Boom. Huh. There you go. Do I not know my laws or what? Yeah. Keep it moving. You're dismissed. You're dismissed. How do you say your name, Mr. Right here? Uh Can you have him pronounce his name for me cuz I don't know how to pronounce that. Could you Sir, could you have him pronounce his name for me cuz I don't know how to pronounce that. Sir, could you please have him Could you have him pronounce that for me? Sir, he told me his name was right here and that's not how you spell right here. When the officers begin asking about his identity, the exchange quickly becomes tense. The back and forth makes the atmosphere grow more heated by the minute. And then, when the familiar question is asked, am I being detained? the situation immediately takes a new turn. legal and you can't illegally detain me for that, sir. Learn. You learn your lesson today? Huh? Huh, officer right here? Did you learn your lesson? Free education for you, sir. I do know the law better than you. Idiot. Officer right here. What you got in here? You think this is illegal, too? Yeah, exactly. Officer right here. I don't want to ask a question, sir. Oh, okay. He's waving. That's what they get. The tyrants get the finger. See, I'll give him a thumbs up. He hasn't had any interaction with me, but he's probably Who knows? For Pearl, it was perfect. If you keep walking away, it's going to be even more trouble. After several tense moments, the situation finally begins to calm down. No arrest is made, and the confrontation quickly comes to an end. Citizens may file a lawsuit against police [music] under Section 1983 if their rights are violated. Officers who break [music] the law could face financial liability, disciplinary action, or even termination. Understanding the law, mutual respect, and ethical conduct [music] are the keys to avoiding unnecessary conflicts. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, >> [music] >> don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]