saw you filming it. >> So, what's going on? >> Is there a crime? >> I'm just trying to see what's going on here. >> Is there a crime? >> Like, I think you're suspicious. I'm investigating if you're involved in the fire. >> Is suspicious a felony or misdemeanor? >> You're talking American. Uh, we're not in America. >> Is that a misdemeanor or a felony? >> Hamilton officers detained a citizen solely for filming a houseire from his vehicle, labeling him suspicious based on a firefighter's report despite no evidence of wrongdoing. Under section 9 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned, rendering the stop unlawful without reasonable grounds tied to a specific offense. The interaction escalated when the driver refused to provide identification, correctly asserting that suspicion alone does not justify demands under provincial laws like Ontario's Highway Traffic Act, which requires ID only for driving related infractions. Officers admitted it was not a traffic stop, yet persisted, ignoring that mere proximity to a scene shared by numerous onlookers fails to meet the threshold of articulable cause required by RV man. 2004 SEC 52. This overreach wasted public resources and violated the driver's mobility rights, highlighting how ignorance of charter protections turns routine curiosity into fabricated criminality. >> Hey there, sir. >> Hey. Hey. How's it going? >> Good. I'd like to leave. >> Okay. >> Yeah. You you realize you can't be driving with your >> Am I driving? >> Well, you got the keys in the car. It's on. It's operating. It is technically still driving. >> Well, you're one of those, eh? >> Oh, you're filming the fire. What's going on? >> I'm trying to leave. >> Okay. You're trying to leave, but you were down there facing the fire. It was reported that people saw you filming it. >> So, what's going on? >> Is there a crime? >> I'm just trying to see what's going on here. >> Is there a crime? No. >> Didn't think so. Okay. Well, you don't have to be lippy. And >> why am I being stopped here? >> We're just trying to ascertain and figure out what's going on here. And you're just giving me attitude right now. >> Okay. So, why can't I leave? >> You can be cooperative and just say, "Hey, I was here and I wanted to see the fire." What's >> that's Does it matter? Why does it matter? >> Yeah. So, firefighters thought you're being suspicious and might have some involvement with the fire. We have in the vehicle. Uh, I need to see your license. >> No, >> I'm I'm not asking you. And then >> it's not a traffic stop. I >> I am stopping a traffic stop. >> It's not a traffic stop. >> It's not a traffic stop. But nice try. Call your supervisor. >> Supervisor's here. >> Okay. >> He's going to come, but there's no there's no world where you come here. Like I think you're suspicious. I'm investigating if you're involved in the fire. >> Is suspicious a felony or misdemeanor? >> You're talking American. Uh we're not in America. >> Is that a misdemeanor or a felony? Being suspicious? >> You're totally talking American. That's not American. >> It's not American. >> World where I don't get your uh your your identification right now. >> Uh that's not happening. >> You're not. >> You can't stop somebody for no crime. >> I'm not stopping you for the car. I'm stopping you because firefighter thought you were being suspicious around the fire and I spoke with them. I believe him and I'm identifious what does what does suspicious matter? >> Pardon? >> What does suspicious matter? Suspicion gives us a a reason to Is being detained? >> Yes. >> For what? >> I'm investigating a fire right now. >> For what crime? >> An arson. >> Okay. Well, I wasn't part of it, was I? >> That's what I'm investigating. >> Okay. Well, you're not getting my license or nothing without a crime. So, >> I just told it to you, my friend. >> Yeah. >> Am I free to go? >> No. >> No, I'm not free to go. No, I'm investigating a flying my suspect right now. >> Okay, too bad. >> You can't stop by somebody for no cried by like >> I was asking you for >> whether it's American or Canadian or whatever >> acting suspicious around the house >> because I parked for a minute. >> No, the firefighter. This is what the firefighter came and told me, my friend. >> Well, I have the whole thing on video. So, >> okay, I believe you. I know that. >> Yeah. So now what? >> He asked you for your identification. >> You can't stop bun somebody for no crime. >> There's clearly an arson or a flyer here. >> All right. >> Are you going to be tyrants to rip me out of my car? >> You let me know the name of that vehicle. I heard 8041. Does anyone have MTO by chance to send me a a photo? >> Stop for taking pictures, guys. You're live, by the way, on YouTube. >> Okay. >> Rockton firefighter. Fire on the fire. Might be involved. Uh he's in the vehicle right now. Please not [ __ ] guys are going to be famous. I love it. Thank you for the content. I appreciate that. It's not >> very exciting. Oh, >> well, I thought it is. Oh, can I also get both your names and badge numbers, please? >> Badge 1397. >> Shippy 1772. >> Thank you very much. >> Am I free to go? >> Nope. >> No. >> Still detained for what crime? An >> arson. I'm investing a fire. My next stop's going to be to uh central station for complaints against both of you. It's >> fine. Okay. Hold left. If you don't want to worry about the drive, you can do it on my >> Oh, I'll drive right down there. This is your tax dollars hard at work, guys. >> I don't want to be here until you're that extending our time. >> You clowns one and two. Nothing better to do. Come here to take pictures and they're like, "Oh, now you're suspicious cuz you just happen to be there taking pictures." 100 bucks says if uh Global News or CHC8 were here, you wouldn't even look at them, would you? >> Didn't think so. >> It's all on the call. Dude with the camera. He's so suspicious. What are we doing here? >> Well, we got toident identify you and confirm your ID. And you're not helping us. You're not surrening your ID to confirm. So, we're going to confirm your ID. We got to do it by other means. >> Yeah. Because you know you can't just stop somebody randomly for no crime. >> What's being said? [laughter] >> Arson. You're a suspicious person in the area. >> What about these guys? They're not suspicious. >> They're in the area. >> They're They're in the area. Are they suspicious? >> Down at the intersection. >> Look at all these people. Why is nobody else suspicious? Huh? That's a good answer. Suspicious, but a guy driving is suspicious. Taking pictures. Suspicious. There you go. I guess this guy standing behind you. Not suspicious. >> Go ahead. >> There you go. 10 234. Go ahead. Do >> you want to just bring your uh passenger to the front lobby? Great. Thanks. >> Thank God. >> [cough] [clears throat] >> So concerned for their safety, too. See, they're just sitting there. Nothing better to do. Taking a picture. Am I good to go or what are we doing? Yeah. Yeah. They don't think >> I understand what you're saying. >> Okay. I've confirmed your identity. You're free to leave. >> So, yeah. Wasting time. >> That's I wasn't. >> Thanks, you [ __ ] clown. [ __ ] tyrant. Tyrant number one, two, and three. Despite confirming no involvement in the arson, police insisted on verifying the driver's identity through alternative means after he declined to surrender his license. Section 2B of Ontario's Compulsory Automobile Insurance Act mandates identification only during valid traffic enforcement, not investigative fishing expeditions unsupported by probable cause of impairment or violation. The officer's threat of extraction from the vehicle echoed unlawful arrest tactics as no criminal code section such as 495 for arrest without warrant applied without belief in indictable offense commission. Badges 1,397 and 1,772 along with a supervisor doubled down on suspicion equated a detention for arson investigation. Yet Canadian jurist prudence in RV Grant 2009 SCC32 demands objective reasonleness absent here amid a crowd of non-suspect spectators ultimately released after external ID confirmation. 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