What's your name and badge number? Officer Cabrera. Call your supervisor. You're getting too close to me. You're getting too close to me. Call your supervisor. This is you can't record up here. Who are you, sir? Are you recording? Who are you, sir? I'm a security. They thought that simply giving orders meant citizens had to obey. But once the law was brought into the conversation, everything started to change. Can I help you, sir? Yes, this guy's out of control. Can I speak to a regular cop, please? This is not a restricted area. This guy's being out of control. >> Sir, there's nothing illegal about recording. Are you law enforcement? Let me just be clear. Are you law enforcement or security? by the sheriff's office, yeah. But you're security. When power is used in the wrong way, the consequences are not just embarrassment. Sometimes they become legal problems. Right outside the Capitol in Washington, D.C., what began as a routine recording suddenly turned into a tense confrontation when a police officer unexpectedly ordered, "Stop." Why stop? Are we Are we in a public area? Can I help you? Yeah, you don't tell me to stop. Stop. You stop. Can I help you? What do you mean What do you mean stop? >> you, sir? What's your name and badge number? Officer Cabrera. Call your supervisor. You're getting too close to me. You're getting too close to me. Call your supervisor. >> How can I help you? Call your supervisor. >> I help you? That's how you can help me. Call Okay, I understand. What's your name? What is your name, sir? What is your name? >> Sir, I need you walk that way, please. >> This is a public area. Call your supervisor. Yes, [music] please call your supervisor. Yes, please. I'd like to speak to a supervisor. You're You're a great What are you doing? Because you're aggressive. That's not the way you speak to people. Can I help you, sir? Yes, this guy's out of control. Can I speak to a regular cop, please? How can I help you, sir? This guy's This is This is not a restricted area. This guy's being out of control. What's your name and badge number? Officer Cabrera. Badge number. How can I help you? Badge number. 401. 400. Is that Is that how you conduct yourself? Is that what police do? Sir, can I help you with something? Is that what police do? I'm asking This guy's out of control. I don't want to speak with you. I don't want to speak with you. I'd I'd rather speak with him. He looks [music] like a nice guy. That's fine. Oh, [music] so you can stand there, but I can't. The law is selectively applied. Is that Is that how it is? Huh, nice. No, walk away. I never asked you for anything. I'm not walking away. This is my area. And this is not No, no, no. You got this wrong. This is our area. This is our area. Your area is back behind those doors. This is a public area. And do the walk of shame. That's all you can do. Okay. Yeah, enjoy that walk. Enjoy your walk of shame on your way back. Go ahead. You're dismissed. You're dismissed. You're dismissed. You're dismissed. You're dismissed. You seem you you seem you seem agitated. You There's Are you okay? Is there something wrong with you? I'm good. All right, so I'm good. What is your name? I'd rather not. Why? Because I don't want to. What is your name, Cabrera? What's your first name? It doesn't matter what my first Why are you asking what my name is? So I can address you, you know? Huh? The atmosphere began to grow more tense. As the person filming continued asking questions about his right to stand in a public area, the interaction quickly shifted from a simple warning to a heated argument. O'Briana, you seem like a like like a humble guy, you know? You seem like you could be probably my son. You're like 22. Hey, sir, so I'm over here and he's asking you to step back and Well, I'm already in Listen, listen. Don't be a tyrant as well, bro. I have the right to be right here. He just said it. He said I'm good right here. United States Capitol Police. You know, we got to keep this area clear, all right? So so excuse me. So get out. You can't really step on the grass. >> can't step on the grass. Does Where does it say this? Like really? Really? Where does it Where Where are you guys coming up with these rules? This is a public area. I'm allowed to be here. Oh, man, I'm glad I came across you, Cabrera. You see, not too often. [music] I do this 6 days a week. That's good. Not too often. Huh? You paid to do it? Do you get paid Do you get paid to do this? Yeah, of course. Oh, to to protect us? Nice. Nice. No, you you yelled. You said, "Stop." Right. You don't You don't You don't get me to stop, bro. Like you We get you We get you Well, yeah, stop. Stop. The same thing you were saying. Just stop. I have the right I have the right to video record you guys. Like what the heck? Apparently it is. It's fine. It's not It's not an issue. So what what's the issue here then? Why won't you call your supervisor when I requested one? For what reason do I don't That's the thing. I don't need to I don't need to explain my day with you, but you want the reason? Here it is. You're an Oh, my goodness. That's the reason. [music] Main reason. Are you a supervisor? Are you a supervisor? No, I'm not, man. Could you please call one? Thank you. I appreciate. You see, we have a normal police officer over here who does his job. What is it? Monley? Monley, sorry about that. So this guy's very aggressive. Very aggressive. His uh his his behavior is He's walking up to me with a firearm being That's a crime, bro. You can't just tell me what to do in a public area. Unless I Unless I broken the law, you can't just give me orders. We're in a public area. >> [music] >> And then he's telling me I can't stand there, but here you guys are. After a series of questions about authority and the rules in this area, the situation seemed to go far beyond a normal conversation. And at that moment, an unexpected turn caused the entire confrontation to shift in a completely different direction. here. So I like to I like to complain on you. And then I requested a supervisor multiple times. He He refuses to do that. So we're going to have to go the the tough way on you, brother. The tough legal way. Okay. You're going to learn today to be respectful. By the way, we have 100 million people that have watched our channel. How is that fine? How is that fine? You're misbehaving on video, dog. I apologize, sir. I apologize. All right, so All right, so can we shake hands and and be good? All right. Good. That's all. Bro, I'm a man. You say you're sorry, I don't I don't I don't bother you no more. You can cancel that call to the supervisor. That's all that I was like, okay, I'll hold on to it. >> Thank you. Yeah, bro. I'm a good guy, bro. I just I just don't let nobody on me. You know what I'm saying? I don't let nobody because if I'm not breaking the law, you can't just do that. Like that's why people like that's That's why I'm the only one doing this because most people won't walk up to you guys and and flex our rights. You see, they they they just don't. They're scared. And and and that's the reason, Cabrera. Because you even though you You You didn't make any threats. You You were Your behavior was highly suspicious. You know what I'm saying? Using your own terms. Your own police terms. Uh O'Briana, seems like a very young guy, but O'Briana, you need to know the the most important thing about your job is to respect our rights. And that we as long as we don't break the law, you guys are I don't want to sound rude, but you guys are under us. How's it going, brother? So So O'Briana, remember that, brother. Remember that. How long have you been a police officer, Monley? A little over a year. Over a year? Nice. What What you do before that if you don't mind me asking? I went to college, man. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Well, that's good because a lot of police officers just become police officers without going to college and they get a little bit What is it? 6 months worth of training in the academy, something like that. And then here's a gun and a badge and then they don't know the First Amendment, but they want to exercise the second one, which is like, "Whoa, whoa, easy tiger." You know what I'm saying? So it's all I'm doing educational videos. So I want no confrontation at all. Uh but most of the time it comes from government employees. The confrontation finally began to cool down when the officer changed his attitude. However, the story didn't end there. Just minutes later, a supervisor from the police department arrived and the next exchange revealed several interesting details. You being humble and nice, I appreciate you apologizing. I apologize if I made you feel uncomfortable in any way. So thank you so much. You guys take care, okay? Bye-bye. What are you doing back there? What you doing back there? Uh back up. I'm going to have to ask you a question. Oh, yes. Are you supervisor? Yeah. Yeah, nice to meet you. You want to find it? Uh well, I'm I go around the whole country doing police videos, right? And I come across a lot of unfairness when it comes to the First Amendment. Uh this officer back here, he he had a very suspicious attitude towards me when I walked up to him. He He seemed very aggressive. So As soon as he found out that I have millions of views on my on my YouTube, he apologized. So just know you may have to have a word with Cabrera even though >> [music] >> he apologized and I'm a man, I don't I'm not going to form formally complain on him because there's no need for that. He apologized and and I There's no need for me to keep pushing the issue. Uh sometimes I push the issue and nothing really happens anyway. So even though it's on video and da da da da da. Now, somebody goes ahead and say something about me, make a sworn statement, I'm going to jail. >> [laughter] >> With no video, no proof, just something he say, she say. So we're just educating people on our constitutional rights. Um May I have your name and badge number, please? Yeah, that's my name right there. 4567. Yannotti. Is that like Italian or something? Nice. Well, I'm 1% Italian. I don't know how true is that according to ancestry.com. This is a non-paid promo. But thank you. Just wanted to say that. You have a great day. All right, you too. too. In the end, after speaking with a supervisor from the Capitol Police, the situation gradually came to a close in a calmer atmosphere. No arrest was made, but what just happened still raises an important question. Are the rights to film in public truly respected in every situation? Citizens can sue police under Section 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights may face compensation payouts, disciplinary action, or even termination. Up next, an independent journalist began filming in a public area, but just seconds later, a security officer quickly approached and tried to take control of the situation, setting off an unexpected confrontation right in the courthouse hallway. Do it. >> So, we just went through the metal detector. Let's take a look around. So, at left, we have probation and mental health and veterans court. I um this is all on one probation, veterans uh court, everything. Um no, I'm just taking a look around. Thanks. [music] Can I help you? Um no, who are you? Uh I work here. You know me, Oswaldo. I'm sorry? Oswaldo. Oswaldo? Yeah. No, no, no, I don't need your help. I appreciate that, though. >> Okay. Thank you. You look kind of lost, so I'm just I look lost? No. This woman here told me exactly where I was, so it's okay, and I can read on the front door, so. So, Oswaldo here is a good example of our tax dollars hard at work, just hanging out, I guess. Not doing much. What's your name? Oh, I didn't give it, sir. I didn't give it, sir. You were not given a name? I didn't give it, no. Oh. You're asking Well, you're in the public serving hearing, right? Yeah, that's why. Staff only beyond this point. You can't go there, it says. Sir. Again, I don't know I don't know what it's about. The signs, you think I can't read or something? Like I I can read. You can read. It's fine. Staff only. He said call security to handle this guy. Quick question for you, ma'am. So, like the veterans court and the mental health court, is that something that the judge has to approve, or is that something that's like what's the qualifying factors for that? Um Or the district attorney or It's something that the defendants would discuss with their attorneys. Um But who approves it, though? Like who >> a part of the program. I'm only a part of probation. Oh, you're only part of probation. Okay, thank you. No, ma'am, I'm just taking a look around. I'm not going into the restricted area. Yeah, but this is restricted, so you cannot point the camera in there cuz we have a lot of sensitive You have sensitive things that that >> personal information files and stuff back there. That's why >> That you could that you could see from the window? No, but I still just want Cuz that would be pretty careless. After passing through the security checkpoint and beginning to observe inside of the office, the journalist asked a few simple questions to the staff there. Everything seemed fairly normal at first, until another person suddenly approached and began making new demands regarding the camera. This is you can't record up here. Who are you, sir? Are you recording? Who are you, sir? I'm a security. Security? >> For this building, yes. Okay. Yep. And So, if if you want to record on I have to ask you to step out. Oh, I can record, sir. There's nothing illegal about recording. Are you law enforcement? Let me just be clear. Are you law enforcement or security? >> by the sheriff's office, yeah. But you're security. Yeah, and and it's disrupting what people are doing up here. Did it look like I was disrupting anything? >> call. When you walked in, did it look like I was disrupting anything or looking at paperwork? Okay. You can't go around taking photographs and videos of people's [music] offices and stuff, all right? This is a public office funded by taxpayers. What was your name? Rogers is my last name. Rogers? Yes. Security officer Rogers. >> Yes. Okay. Well, again, I don't see any signs that says there's no recording. There's no law that says I can't record. This is a public building. >> Do you This is an office for probation. Do you have business up here? Well, yeah, my business is the recording and asking questions, as I've done, and looking at different documents, as I've done, as I was doing when you came in. Okay. There's some confidentiality stuff, too. >> Well, I would I would hate for them to leave confidential documents out in the public where anybody could see it. That [music] would that would not be smart on their part, but I doubt they would I don't think they're that incompetent that they would just leave people's social security numbers hanging out where anybody could see them, right? I'm sure they're secured in a file or a computer or something. I'm not but that's not my intention, anyway. My intention's not to get anybody's personal information. That's not So, what is your intention? Um like I said, I'm here recording and asking questions. I'm an independent journalist. Okay, asking questions is fine. You want to talk to the receptionist, but Right, I did. walking around where there's In the public areas. In the I'm not going into restricted areas. Again, not going into people's offices. That's not true. Whoever told you that lied to you. I'm not going into anybody's offices. I don't plan on going to anybody's offices. I plan on staying in the publicly accessible areas. The argument began to grow more tense as the security officer repeatedly demanded that the person filming move away from the area. But instead of leaving, the journalist continued asking questions about the actual authority of the person trying to give him orders. Like look, I'm going to show you. Is this a public space? Look, look at this. What This is for them? This is for employees only? This is for employees only? This is for employees only? Those are for employees that have them out. These are for employees only? This isn't a public office. Do you understand me? This I mean this is public. There's public documents here. There's books. There's lollipops. There's snacks. >> I understand you're probably trying to get >> I'm not trying to do anything. I would like you to leave. No, no, no, no. I don't want you to do I don't want you to do anything that you don't have the authority to do, sir. I'm I'm just trying to be peaceful. >> being disruptive, and if you're hurting people's offices All due respect, sir, you were the one that's being disruptive. >> I'm being calm, and I'm asking you in a polite manner >> That's all I am. to step back over to the public side. >> This is the public This is the public side, sir. You're Listen, what you're trying to do, I've seen it many, many times. You're trying to exert some sort of authority. Hey, step over on this side before I have to do something. You're trying to exert authority that you don't have over me. You're a security guard, okay? We all have our roles here. I don't have authority over you. You don't have authority over me. You're a security guard. You're not law enforcement. You're not You're law enforcement. Also, call them. Call the law enforcement officers, and if they tell me to leave, I will leave. Go ahead. We can trespass you, and then Go ahead, call them. Call them. Call them. Trespass me from a public building. Okay. All right. All right. If you go somewhere where you don't want to be, they can escort you out. All right. Yeah. Thanks, man, for telling the truth. Appreciate it. Yeah, I asked her how disruptive have I been. Not at all. I mean, she said he just asked me a couple questions. That's it. Oh, wow. That was uh He definitely did not What is this for? For staff use only? After the tense moments that had just unfolded, the journalist continued filming inside the courthouse. And in a nearby room, an unexpected conversation offered a completely different perspective on how public officials react to a camera. Okay, got you. I just didn't know if you were law enforcement or not. That's it. Um yes and no. Okay. >> Don't go past this area. >> Oh, yeah, yeah. No problem. No problem, ma'am. Didn't mean to encroach on your personal space. I wonder what's going on over here in the public meeting room. Hi, ma'am. Hi. Question for you. What's going on here? I'm Are you recording me? I I am an independent journalist. I record everything. Yeah, but I just wanted to know what was going on here. That's it. Okay. Um I need to give you a court pass. Jury what? I'm just curious. It's jury service. Come in. Oh, okay. Can you come here for a second? No, I was just asking some questions. That was all that what was going on here in the public meeting room. That was it. It's jury orientation. Jury orientation. Okay, got you. So, like do they fill out questionnaires and Isn't it like so Question for you. Sorry. I'm I'm curious by nature. Um so, through here, they still have to go through like voir dire and stuff like that. This is just to get the basic qualifications if they're able to even make it to that point. Okay. All right, cool. Thank you so much. The county handles it. Yes. Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. See, that's how you handle people with cameras asking questions, ladies and gentlemen. I'm going to be in your way. No, you're not in my way. Just one last question for you guys. I'm sorry that I'm leaving. I know, I'm a pain. Um who's the supervisor of the probation department? Like who's What What's her name? Raul Salazar. Raul Salazar? Okay, thank you. Are they here today? Yeah. They are? Is there any way you can ask if I can speak to them? Sure. Sure, my name is Shawn. Shawn? Yes. Okay. Unlike the tense >> confrontation earlier, this conversation unfolded in a much calmer tone. However, as he left the probation office, the journalist shared some candid observations about everything that had just taken place. Do you have any scissors or something? Scissors? I was just saying he's in a meeting right now. >> Okay. Sure, if you could write down my name and contact information, I'd love to talk to him. Sure. Um the back of this card is probably fine. Okay, perfect. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Have a great day. Thank you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, well, we're going to be here for a few more minutes and then we will be getting out of here. All right, fellow patriots, so we are just getting out of the Thurston County Probation Department. You know, definitely an interesting audit. I hate it when public servants, like the individual, the male individual, inside of the Probation Department, try to exert authority, "Hey, you can't do X Y Z. Don't point your camera in that direction." It It's so disgusting and unbecoming of a public servant to tell a member of the public what to do in public, especially when that member of the public is peacefully exercising their First Amendment right. I don't understand, but it continues to happen all throughout this country. And to make matters worse, instead of de-escalating the situation, the court officer, security officer, made things worse and escalated the situation, which is unfortunate. And when he couldn't get his way, he said first, "You can't record." Then, "Oh, you can't stand right there. You have to stand 3 ft away from where you're standing." Even though there's public documents and books and everything where I'm standing, um publicly accessible area. When he couldn't get that, you know, he gave up and he went to the secretary. Shout out to the secretary, who said, "All he did was ask me some questions." Again, the audit at the Thurston County Courthouse ultimately ended without any arrests or enforcement actions. However, what happened still revealed a familiar reality. When a camera appears, the way some public [music] officials react can sometimes say far more than any explanation. When someone holds power but lacks restraint [music] and an understanding of citizens' rights, tense situations can easily arise and damage the trust of the community. Hey, everyone. What do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support [music] us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]