As long as they said as long as you know official business fence, I'm okay with them being around the fences. >> Okay. >> You guys have ID on you? Uh >> okay. Well, before you make the wrong decision, sir, I would like to let you know that we're not suspected of breaking any laws. Okay. Like he said, we're allowed to be here. >> We We want to exercise our Fourth Amendment. When constitutional rights are put to the test, the real question becomes, who is abusing their authority and what is the cost? >> That you guys want is ID. ID. ID. Why? Why is that? >> That's the dumbest question we've ever heard. >> How is that the dumbest question? What's What about my Fourth Amendment? >> Okay, I'm going to put it in this pocket here. And if you want to subvert, Can I have your name and badge number, please? >> This video exposes what happens when ID is demanded without cause and why it all ends in a way no one expects. The YouTube group Auditing America conducts a First Amendment audit outside a US Army Reserve Center in Indiana. Everything initially appears normal, but it's these seemingly harmless questions that mark the moment every audit begins to take a different turn. >> Hey, can I help you boys with something? >> Uh, no, man. Just filming. >> What are you offering? >> What's up? >> What are you offering? >> I'm not offering anyone or anything. >> Oh, you're in the army? >> There's something I can help you with. >> Oh, no. We're good. I'm just taking some pictures. >> All right. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Have a good day. >> Yeah, you do the same. >> You guys need any help? Anything I can do to help? >> No, we're good, thanks. How are you today? >> Doing well. We're just curious what you guys are doing. That's all. You're not doing anything bad. >> Just taking some pictures. >> Okay. All right. >> How are you today? >> Doing all right. I'm just being nosy. That's okay. You're free to film anything on here, but we just ask that, you know, if anyone asks to stop you to not take any photos and ask that you rem. I'm sorry. Say that again. If anyone asks you to stop if they're you know >> do did you know that the main thing of your the main objective of your job is to protect the constitution. >> Dude, I'm not I'm not I'm not >> So well why why would you tell me if somebody tells me to stop filming them to to stop if you know the first amendment is free press? >> I did not say that. I was basically saying if someone says you could just honor them not tell anybody that's nothing in detail. What would have happened if we would have honored King George? >> I'm not here for a debate. >> Well, I'm just saying, sir. I'm not trying. I I know you have a you have a hard job, but I'm just here to remind you that you're the most important thing is the Constitution, sir. >> Just being suspicious. So, >> how how how is it sus How is it? How is free press suspicious? >> Oh, I'm not Guys, you can videotape all you want. I do not care. >> Video all you want. I'm just >> We were >> I'm just asking what you doing. I'm just being nice as No, no. I'm being nice, too. You know, I I I would I would not disrespect you. Although the First Amendment protects me as well, but I would never That's not the type of person we are working on a story. We want to see >> We want to see if you guys uh truly protect our freedoms. You know, >> what begins as casual, polite conversation gradually turns into repeated reminders of boundaries. And once constitutional rights enter the discussion, nothing is simple anymore. The shift doesn't show up in actions, but in how each sentence slowly changes. >> Again, I said again, you can >> But you said you said if somebody says not to to to >> context by context, >> you tell me again. We'll go back to the video. >> State my words. Go back to the video. If someone approaches you and they ask you some individual, not me, if an individual in a car, I would say, would you please respect that wish? I didn't tell you as a demand. I said, "Would you please respect that?" >> Well, if my job is to the only place I can record is in a public area. So, imagine if I if I respect respect everyone's request, then I won't I won't have a a >> This is I'm not making a demand. I'm not making a statement. >> No, you're very nice guy. Just remember the Constitution is the is the most important thing. >> Listen, >> and I'm be nice enough to answer them because, you know, we don't we don't really have to engage. >> I'll give you an answer. I used to live in Boston. Okay. >> Oh, I' I've been there. Very nice city. >> I used to live in Boston. Okay. And I had a job where I did like you. I was videotaping entrances, right? Okay. I was in civilian gear just like yourself. And you know what happened? >> What happened? >> A civilian civilian guard came out and yelled at me for notes at a federal building >> for taking pictures. >> Yeah. At a federal building. That happened to me. I was in civilian gears and I was doing a work for a company on videotaping garage spaces. >> What did you say to him? >> Do it. So, a civilian security guard told me I could not take videotape of this particular federal building in Boston. Okay. >> When you absolutely know you have the right to >> for the for that exact moment, I was like, well, do I fight it? Is it worth it? It's like >> it is, >> you know, I'm like whatever. I got the shot anyway. >> I got the shot. It was only It was only public garages anyway. >> I was in I was in my civilian clothes and I was taking pictures of a federal building. Okay. I wasn't sketchy, you know, and all that, but but today I have to ask. So, if you >> No, that's fine. I know you're doing your job. You can ask questions. You know, we we're nice enough to answer. You know, we don't have to cuz you know, this America, >> but hey, >> it's all about respect. Respect our freedoms. We respect you guys. >> We actually support I actually support the US Army. >> The conversation continues, but it's no longer a simple exchange of questions and answers. Boundaries are mentioned more frequently while constitutional rights are quietly placed on the scale. And then as the question, "What are you doing here?" is repeated, the atmosphere grows heavier than ever. >> How's it going, sir? >> What's up, buddy? >> Nothing much. >> They're doing a first amendment documentary just see you guys on YouTube. >> Oh, yeah. Awesome. >> Yeah. As long as you guys aren't coming up in. >> Awesome. Awesome. Are you a cop? >> Well, I'm I mean P in the unit, but I'm not like a cop cop. >> Okay. But you could arrest somebody, right? >> No. >> No. >> Oh, okay. >> No, man. We're not arest we're not those kind of police. No. >> You know, >> can you arrest a military guy? >> Well, yeah. If something happens, >> if someone happens in there, something happens in there. Oh, okay. >> But, uh, no, man. Like I said, as long as your hands are out in the street, you know, just I'm not I'm not against you. >> Oh, that's cool. That's good. You >> understand? Like with the news today, I don't know who you are. You know, I have All right, I'll give you one story. I had a person here. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay, I'm gonna give you a story here. Go ahead. I had a story here. Guy came in shirtless, civilian, right? No joke. >> And you're going to understand why I'm a little suspicious. So, give me that. He came in shirtless. Thank god it was a day that no one's in this building. Came in shirtless on a random July day and with a serious face. No joke. And he came off a sketchy car. He says, "Yeah, I want to join the army." Now, if that happened to you, >> meanwhile, this is not a recruiting room. That's all by >> Yeah, he went he went to the wrong office. >> He went, not only to the wrong office, but his behavior was so awful. You don't come in. >> Yeah, it was really strange. So, I called the cops on like typically with stuff like that. We, you know, we refer to the Lawrence. >> He went in there. >> Yeah. He just kind of managed to get his way up. >> He didn't, he didn't cause any property damage, you know. He was polite, >> but he was definitely off. He wasn't drunk. >> I was on some powder. >> He wasn't all there. all the I was able to nicely professionally just direct them to go. >> That's that's that's how you're supposed to do it. That's what we're looking for. You say you've seen our videos. We're looking A lot of people do these do these videos in a different way. We we're more respectful >> and professional when we do what what what because you know we appreciate the work that you guys do. A lot of people are just nasty to to to military to to the police. That's not us. We just want to see what the first approach is. We want to see if you know you guys you guys have a sign right there that says US Army protects your freedoms. >> It's right there on on the on the pole over there. So, we're like, "All right, so let's see." >> There are no specific allegations, no clear signs of a crime. Yet, the pressure becomes more evident by the moment. And when all eyes fixate on a familiar question, the situation begins to drift off its original course. >> These gentlemen are YouTubers. They were just just asking a few questions. And I told them they can take videos from the from the from the street as long as they don't come inside the federal property and they're good. Okay. So, but they're they're okay. They're just asking me a few questions. But as long as they said, >> you know, official business inside the fence, I'm okay with them being around the fences. >> Okay. >> You guys have ID on you? >> You want You want to tell them about that? >> Why would Why would you need that? >> Because anybody who I come into contact with on a dispatch call, I have to identify. >> Okay. Well, before you make the wrong decision, sir, I would like to let you know that we're not suspected of breaking any laws. Okay? Like he said, we're allowed to be here. >> We we want to exercise our Fourth Amendment. Okay? >> I hear you. >> So, don't don't don't say that you have to get my ID because this is not, you know, nasty Germany or anything. I'm exercising my first amendment. I'm not being disorderly. I'm not breaking the law. I'm not being loud. I'm not being nasty. >> Why would you need my ID? >> That's waste my time. >> All right. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I just want to at least respect you. If you don't have official business on the federal side, then I then I get allowed on the street. >> You can videotape all you want. I have no issues with that. So, >> are you are you his superior? >> Why does it matter, >> gentlemen? You guys are good. You're not You can ro you guys are talking. You get in trouble. >> Say what you want. >> No, we we can say whatever we want, right? >> I'm the facility, man. >> What's his name? >> Okay, thanks. >> You should be a cop. >> Why does it matter? >> Why would you Why would Why is the first thing that you guys want is ID? ID. ID. Why? Why is that? >> That's the dumbest question I've ever heard. How is that the dumbest question? What's What about my fourth amendment? >> Because they called us here to talk to you guys. So, we want to know who we're talking to. >> Well, I'll tell you something. That's I'll tell you something. That's the dumbest question. >> You refuse your ID? >> Yes. >> What did he say? >> He said it's okay because I told him Okay. But what's your next question? >> My next question is why why are you being rude to me right now? You're getting you see you're you're getting agitated. You need to slow down. >> God bless you. >> God bless you. Remember the fourth amendment. I my ID is not going to transport you into my thought. If I'm not breaking the law, there's no ID. to get as many views as possible. >> It will get all your views. >> We have over 80 million combined. We do this for >> 80 million. >> 80 million in a year and a half. >> That's a lot. >> It It is, man. >> Things begin to change when another force arrives. Their presence brings with it a familiar demand, and that demand pushes the situation in an entirely new direction. From this point on, the atmosphere grows heavier, the words sharper, and the conversation no longer stays within its previous safe zone. ing us or you >> now I'm recording you. Don't you see? >> Cuz you interacted with us. >> You You >> Oh, okay. I thought you guys >> I mean you guys are free to go >> us out here. No, no, no. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We didn't call you edit out what I just said. >> No, this is going to be This is I don't edit my videos, bro. >> Out here trying to aggravate this reserve center so that we can get >> We were courteous. We were courteous and professional, dog. You're talking You're talking nonsense. You're going to see the video. Have I been rude to you? >> It's very obvious. >> Have I been rude to you? >> Look, man. Look, man. Just do the walk of shame. Do the walk of shame, man. >> Do the walk of shame. You know I'm right. >> I did the walk of shame for you, sir. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> You just did the walk of shame. >> Y I never got your first name. >> Why would you need that? >> Well, I just want to chat. I'm Larry. >> Um >> Well, I already told I already told you my channel, Auditing America. >> I'm not I'm not here to record. If you if you look at my channel, uh you'll see my name, you see everything. >> Yeah, I'm with you, man. Um so, I just wanted to recap. So, again, you guys can videape off. >> No, we're leaving now. >> Okay. I just don't want you to make make enemies. I want you guys to make friends. >> Do you think Do you think they have a lot of enemies? >> No, but you just I don't want you to cause a scene. That's >> Well, that's the thing. I I would never do that. >> Trying to videotape. >> No, no, no, no, no. We Listen, listen. We're not trying to break the law. These guys are are hoping >> off whenever you was walking away. >> These people are hoping that I'm disorderly. You know this guy wanted ID real quick. You see that was that was that was that was a bad uh approach from him. ID ID ID. Why? You see how he did the walk of shame? He said I will do the walk of shame for you, sir. He said >> once the demand is made, the answer becomes clear. No violation is identified. No grounds remain to continue. The exchange ends in a way few expect. Just a moment of silence and a retreat that speaks louder than words. Up next, just minutes after the camera starts rolling, familiar questions begin to surface. And from that moment on, the line between freedom to walk away and being detained starts to blur. >> That's fine. You keep them. Sergeant, I'm working with the sheriff. What are you doing? >> 704 dispatch. Let me see some ideas from you guys. >> Have we been Have we Are you suspecting of a crime? Can you put me outside with those two subjects in those >> subjects? That's what that's what King George >> being on a sidewalk >> subject Milwaukee >> garage door. >> Are we not allowed? Are we being detained >> or am I free to go? >> Are we being detained, sir? >> All right. >> Can you show me some ID? >> Are we being detained now or you're going to be going to jail? Show me some ID now. >> Are we being detained? >> Sir, are we being detained, sir? Are we being detained? >> Look at this [ __ ] right here. >> Sir, are we being detained? detain >> now. Hey, >> are we being detained, sir? Sir, I'm asking you a question. Are we being detained? Are we free to go? >> Let me introduce myself to I am Sergeant Morgan County Sheriff's Office. >> I am investigating people out here with suspicious behavior. First amendment audit. >> First Amendment Protection. >> Sir, it's our it's our protected right to videotape. We're on a public sidewalk. There's no suspicion of a crime. >> We don't have to. >> This was about me wanting to know who you are. And I >> Well, that's fine. You don't have to know. We are We're on public property. We're not doing We're not doing anything wrong. We're on public property, sir. And sir, sir, uh, did you say you were sergeant? Sergeant. >> Sergeant, you took an Sir, I let you talk, sir. Sir, I let you talk, sir. Uh, Sir, sir, >> show me some. >> Sir, you took an You took What crime are you suspecting me of committing? >> How you doing? >> These two I will >> We're filming on a We're filming on public property. I I will give I will give Sir sir I will No, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. Sir, I I Sir Sergeant Sergeant, what crime what crime are you suspecting us committing? We're filming on a public sidewalk. You guys took an oath to the you guys took an oath to the Fourth Amendment and by so by asking for our ID on a public sidewalk when we're not suspected of any crime would be against your oath to protect our Fourth Amendment, right? >> Okay. The initial questions sound simple enough, but as the conversation continues, the line between just asking and being held for scrutiny becomes harder to distinguish. No charges are stated, only demands that begin to carry a different weight. And from here, the exchange slowly drifts into territory few expected. >> Filming, we we we actually travel whatever we we're we're bloggers. We're we I have we have YouTube channels. We have millions of views. We travel across the country. We've confronted many people. We've also we do First Amendment audits and that's what we're doing right now. We have every right on a public sidewalk to engage in the First Amendment filming. Wow, we got a lot of officers here. >> So, we just Are we being detained or are we free to go? Are we being detained or are we free to go? >> So, we have three officers here now in our security because we're walking down the street with cameras. So tourists aren't allowed to walk in your guys' city and take pictures of your nice buildings without the police trying to literally take us in custody or making you guys give us our ID. So we're free to go. Arrest. >> Okay, we're free to go. >> We're free to go. >> No, >> we're being detained to you. >> We're being Are we being detained? >> FI stop right now. >> What's FI a field investigation stop? So we're asking for your ID. >> What's a field investigation stop? >> That you were taking video of pictures of vehicle. Is that illegal? There's somebody higher up. >> That's not illegal. >> I am. I'm a lieutenant. >> We're going to need somebody higher because this you guys are so so so are are what what crime would we be inspect of? Because filming from the sidewalk is obviously not illegal. The Supreme Court has ruled on that. That's you guys took an oath to protect our First Amendment. Now, it would be one thing if we went to a building and trespassing. We're on a public sidewalk filming. So, I And so now, are you telling us that we're uh being detained illegally right now? Because I want to make sure I convey this to my lawyer. It's very clear cuz I have no problem if I I will put my I'll tell you what I'm going to put my ID. I'm going to put my ID right here on my inner pocket and on video if you want to subvert my Fourth Amendment rights by going into this pocket. >> Got your ID. That's what this is. >> This This is This is a passport. And I will tell you what, I'm going to put it in this pocket. Okay. I'm going to put it in this pocket here. And if you want to subvert Can I have your name and badge number, please? >> I'm asking you for your >> Is this Is this voluntary or is is this a is this a request? So a request is not you don't need it then. So, I'm basically free to go cuz I want to know specifically because >> do you are you is >> my ID and I'm going to show you my name. >> Is is this a lawful requirement? Because if it's a lawful requirement, you can come in here. It's in this pocket and take it. But if it's not a lawful requirement, then we should be free to go. We're exercising in the First Amendment. You guys took the sacred oath before God to protect the First Amendment. And now you're trying to subvert my Fourth Amendment. >> Familiar concepts start being brought up, but in ways that make the listener question them. Each answer leads to yet another demand. And as patience is tested, the atmosphere begins to grow heavier. >> Here to investigate what was going on. I was notified that you >> told that we're just taking pictures. There's nothing. >> We're taking pictures of of personal >> everything of everything. That's what I was. Yes, we're taking pictures of everything. Taking pictures. >> We're taking pictures of everything. So I I'll I'll give you an example. Yes. That's And so I'll give you an example, too. So I was in Chicago the other night and I caught I caught an officer sleeping literally on the job. I've also we also do a lot of accountability. We've confronted Trump. We've confronted Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton about Jeffrey Epstein before the mainstream media even knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. We're first amendment activists and we go out and do this. We're very surprised cuz we travel the country and we and this gentleman is a sergeant. We've never ever been stopped on public on a public sidewalk for filming. We didn't even go into like anywhere else. And I'm also surprised somebody's over there got a a Mercedes sheriff. We just want to make sure our tax money is going to the right place. We just want to make sure that our rights are being upheld. Men, women, and children have died for the Constitution. We just want to make sure that they're being upheld. >> You said you taking pictures of these because of the cars that's on the parking lot. >> No, no. We we travel across the country. We do a number of videos. Right now, we're just kind of like being tourists. We're actually about to grab some food. We we wanted to go and grab food, but we're we're we've never been to Milwaukee. We travel the country. Um so, we're we're taking some pictures. We're taking a look around. >> Taking a look around and you taking >> Yeah. It's the first amendment. Yeah. taking pictures of personal fire. >> Taking pictures of the lady. >> Okay. I'm I'm trying to figure it out. >> We're taking, like I said, of everything. If anything comes to mind, you never know. That guy could start dancing that that you could it could be a car crash. You could get somebody TikTok and it could be a viral video. And and today, >> yeah, that that kind of hurt my feelings a little bit. You know what I'm saying? But the thing is too, the NSA has been spying on everything we've done since at least 2013 and before. We're just kind of filming with with legally. You know what I'm saying? We're filming legally and and the NSA spies on everybody and they don't go to jail. >> Her she's a lieutenant. >> No, I mean she she >> tell my lawyer right now. >> Okay. So, are we free to go? >> I know. I need her cuz I'm calling right now. >> You call? I'm Lieutenant Lester. >> Lieutenant Lester B. >> I just want to know if I'm I just want to know if I'm being detained or if I'm free to go because I was on my way to lunch. This was actually kind of shocking that I'm being stopped. >> No one leaves and no one moves forward. The arguments are repeated, but the feeling has changed. It's no longer curiosity. It's suspicion. And it's this very stalemate that leads to a reaction few see coming moments later on. >> And asking the government permission. Yes. >> The reason why we were called out is because Marquette requested us to come out. Okay. >> Because they were wondering why were we all in this parking lot and that parking lot. I'm >> sorry. Sure. You don't have to tell me to stop. But >> because you you're going to tell me I'm telling you what I'm talking you were in this parking lot which is the county. It's not the public street. And in that parking lot, which is not the county street, show filming the cars. >> Can you show me where? >> Wait, wait, wait. Let me You're getting >> what I'm asking. You said you were on the public street, right? That's still public, too. >> That's technically still public. We didn't actually And if you can, >> I'm telling you what was told to me. >> And we didn't never even cross the lines and that's still technically public. >> I'm telling you what was told to me. >> And you have your job is to your job is to respond to the call and find out what's going on. >> Well, thank you for uh in the end. I appreciate you. And so that's that's that's all >> that's that's public space too. But yeah, so I understand and it's not and these people they have to respond to this call. These people should be better informed in the first amendment. Um and so hopefully now that me and CPR did this uh we won't have to have uh 12-year-olds accosted for ticking. So are we free to go? >> A lot more. >> Okay. Well, you guys have a good day. >> You're welcome to come back with as many activists as you choose. And we're all about we're all about nonviolence and we truly sincerely care about what our civil rights heroes and founding fathers not the uh the slave holders but the abolitionists like Thomas Payne and Ben Franklin. We truly care about human freedom and liberty and now all of our rights have been pretty much out the window even before coronairus. So I hope you guys are safe. I hope you guys uh reread the constitution the federalist papers the anti federalist papers and you have a good blessed day. Thank you very much. Take care. >> After all the tense exchanges the situation begins to slow down. There are no more threats, no more rapid demands. Yet, it's this seemingly quiet moment that reveals most clearly what has just unfolded. Simply watching how everyone stands there is enough to show how far the situation has gone. Citizens may sue police officers under 42 USC section 1,983 when their rights are violated. Officers found in violation may be required to pay damages and face discipline or termination. A healthy society is not built on fear, nor on confrontation, but on understanding, responsibility, and mutual respect. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much.