How's it going, guys? Good. >> You said, do you have any ID? I >> uh I might have ID with me. Yes. Okay. May I see it? >> No, you may not. >> Call me a loser. >> License or registration, please. What's your ID? >> Did you just call me a loser? >> You just approached the cruiser after I asked you not to. Do you have an ID on you, please? >> Rookie officers assume they have the authority to demand ID from a citizen. And that's when the line of the law is crossed. >> Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Take your hands off my camera. Take your hands off my camera, guys. >> You got on your feet, >> guys. >> Why are you walking up to me? >> I'm asking you for your ID. >> You don't even have a mask on. You put in my life in jeopardy, sir. Keep 6 ft away. >> One wrong decision can turn those who enforce the law into those who must answer to it. A man was simply standing on the sidewalk, but just seconds later, he was threatened with having his camera confiscated and even being sued. What turned an ordinary action into a tense confrontation right outside a federal building? >> Hi, how are you today? How are you? >> I'm doing good, thanks. >> This is our area here. We'd appreciate you. going through here. >> Yeah, >> we would appreciate it. >> Are are you from the news media? >> I could be. >> Okay, one moment, please. >> No problem. Sir. >> Yeah. Hi. How are you? >> Camera. >> Why are you taking pictures? >> Oh, don't touch my camera, sir. Don't touch my camera. >> Well, you're taking pictures of me. I can detain you. >> Oh, no you can't. >> Yes, I can. >> Taking pictures in public is legal, sir. >> But don't take pictures of security. >> Sir, hold on a second. Calm down a second. Calm down a second, sir. Calm down a sec. Calm down a second, sir. >> Call FPS. Have FPS router ASAP. Sir, >> I'm on a public sidewalk. Do you understand that? >> I know. >> I take pictures. I refuse to take I refuse for you to take me a picture. >> Okay. >> I I don't want you taking me a picture. >> It's called the First Amendment. Have you ever heard of it? >> I don't care what your First Amendment is, but you're taking me a picture. >> Would you like me to take you a picture? >> Take all the pictures you want. You're in common in public. >> I don't care. >> You got pictures? >> You should learn the First Amendment, sir. What is your name, sir? You work for Paragon. Uh, badge number 6 864. >> I've already got one complaint against you guys and it already went up to HR and your badge number. I'm getting yours too. 33 32 Gos. >> It all started with a camera and from there threats and arguments quickly escalated. Yet no one could provide a clear legal basis. Then just as tensions reached their peak, a decision was made that could change everything. Federal officers were called in. Will they resolve the situation or turn it into an even bigger mistake? >> Because that'd be illegal. >> No, I have the right to detain you. >> Under what authority? >> Huh? >> Under what authority? >> You're taking pictures of the security pictures of the federal building. >> Sir, >> that's the reason why we're not allowing especially when you're taking pictures of me. >> Sir, would you let me talk for a second? >> Would you like me to take pictures of you, too? >> You decide. >> Is it okay? >> Of course, it's okay. I'm I'm in public. You can take all the pictures you want. >> Yeah, but you can't take pictures of a person, especially face to face. >> Yes, I can. It's called the First Amendment, >> sir. You can. >> Under what law? >> I don't want you taking pictures of me. >> I know you don't want to, but under what law? It's not a law, sir. It is a first amendment protected right. And if the police come here, they will tell you that exact same thing. Now, like I said before, >> take pictures. >> Also, are you familiar with the Department of Homeland Security bulletin, which indicated that it is perfectly legal to take pictures of outside of a federal building? Are you familiar with that with that memo? Sir, >> you can take pictures of this building, but not all the security. >> I can take pictures of anything I want. Okay, go ahead. I'm listening. >> Like I said, I'm trying to explain to you. We allow tourists to take pictures of our building. We allow tourists to take pictures of this, but for tourists to take pictures of us and security, especially the door, and the way people get in and out, that's safety for this building. >> Safety for people that work in this building. Okay. >> That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to keep the, you know, keep them safe. >> Is it illegal, sir? >> Well, if you want, we got a federal police on the way to answer all your questions. >> Oh, I already know what their policy is. You're the one that needs to learn the policy. >> Okay. But >> Department of Homeland Security memo. >> It's as a result of a 2010 decision. A memo got sent out to all the DHS offices indicating that is perfectly legal to take pictures outside of a federal building. And I can take pictures of you because you're in public. If you don't want your picture taken, get out of my sight. >> Step over here and take pictures of the door. >> Okay, I'll stand over there and take pictures. >> When federal officers arrived, the demands came rapidly. From requests for ID and checks to actions that left viewers questioning what was happening. But what stood out was that the cameraman didn't back down. And then in just a moment, everything began to change. >> How's it going, guys? >> Good. You do you have any ID? >> Uh, I might have ID with me. Yes. Okay. May I see it? >> No, you may not. >> Okay. >> Okay. Please stop following me around, sir. >> So, let's just have a conversation. Let's calm down a little bit. Okay. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Take your hands off my camera. Take your hands off my camera, guys. >> You got an >> Guys, can I can I face one of you guys at once? And I don't want you guys surrounding me. Okay. I'm just going to back up right here. I don't need to show ID. I'm not breaking the law. Are you familiar with the memo that was sent to all the DHS offices indicating that it's perfectly legal to take photographs on the exterior of federal buildings? Are you familiar with that memo, sir? >> You are pointing a telephoto lens at a device down there. >> What device? I don't have any device in there. I can't I can barely see through those doors. Is that illegal, sir? Is that illegal, sir? >> Yes or no? >> Can we see what took the picture up? >> No. Is that illegal, sir? I take that as a no. May I have your name and badge number, please, sir? >> 958. >> And your name, sir? >> That's all you're gonna get from me. >> May I have your name and badge number, sir? >> Take take care of Bandy. >> 971. >> 971. Thank you very much, sir. >> You guys got this, >> guys. Easy. Just calm down. We can talk. We can talk. It's no big deal. Jesus Christ. >> I don't care. All right. I'm I'm >> You don't care? >> Okay. >> So, you leaving or what? Well, right now I'm got police around me. So, uh I'm I'm going to document for my safety what you guys do. >> Document your safety. >> For my own safety, I'm going to document what's going on here. How are you today, sir? Good. May I have your name and number, Mr. Your Bass number, Mr. Crane? May I have your number, please, sir? I guess not. Okay. Anyway, I'll say hello. How are you today? Good. >> Something I can do for you or >> uh I I'd like I have a question for you. Are you familiar with the memo that was sent to all of the DHS offices as a result of a 2010 uh >> with neither side backing down, questions kept coming, but the answers grew increasingly vague. Then a small detail began to emerge, shifting the situation in a way no one expected. It was no longer just a simple dispute, but a sign that a much bigger mistake was beginning to unfold. >> Can you sight a law indicating that it's illegal to take pictures outside a federal building? >> I cannot. >> Right. It's legal, isn't it? >> So, what's So, what's the problem? >> I didn't convey to you that I had a problem. >> Well, these guys are coming up. Okay. That gentleman there threatened to detain me. >> Threaten to what? >> That gentleman right there from Paragon, he threatened to detain me. >> Did he detain you? >> He threatened to detain you. >> Okay. >> Okay. I indicated to him, just as I indicated to you, gentlemen, that it is perfectly legal, according to the federal government, according to DHS. >> Okay. So, were you detained? >> No, I have not been detained. >> So, what's the problem? How can I help you? >> Okay, I want these security guards from Paragon. Now, I just just for the record, I already have a sustained complaint against Paragon Security for engaging in this kind of activity. >> Nothing to do with what's going on right now. How can I help you? >> Uh, I would like to be able to take photographs in public without being harassed. >> Okay, go take photographs in public. >> Okay, that's what I've been doing. >> Okay, don't block the sidewalk. >> I'm not blocking the sidewalk. People are walking by. >> Don't block the entrance to the federal. >> I haven't been blocking it, sir. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> There you go. >> Well, we're all good then, aren't we? >> It would appear. >> Okay. So, I want to ask you, what's the problem? What's with what what what's with you guys coming with a siren over me engaging in a perfectly legal activity? >> Did I have my siren on? >> I thought I heard a siren. Yeah, maybe I heard that. May I'm sorry. Yeah, maybe I heard another siren. That's possible. Anyway, so uh why >> why is the security guard saying I can't take a picture when it's perfectly legal to do so? That's what I'd like to know. >> You have the memo, right? >> Well, yeah, I do. Evidently, you don't >> memo. >> You should read it. You're the one violating it. >> What did I violate? >> Go read the memo. >> In the end, as things began to settle, the truth started to come to light. From the threats to the way the situation was handled, was this just a misunderstanding or a sign of abuse of power? Citizens may file a lawsuit against police under section 1983 if their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights could face financial liability and may also be subject to discipline or termination. Up next, it was just a routine traffic stop, but the way they showed up made everything immediately feel off. Not one, not two, but an entire force was deployed. Were they handling a situation or going too far? SW is pulling people over. >> There's two cops over there. You got to get this out. Okay. Because it looks like drive. That's fine. Just going to do a side. Okay. All right. You're all set, my friend. All right. You have a better day. Okay. >> So, SWAT team over. >> How you doing, sir? >> Can I ask you a question? >> Yes. >> Can you Can I Can you tell me why they pulled you over? >> Pardon? >> Do you mind telling me why they pulled you over? Ask Kevin. >> Okay. Have a nice day, sir. We have a SWAT team on the cover. You SWAT team. SWAT team is pulling people over. At this point, everything had started to feel unusual. What seemed like a simple situation was already raising questions because of how the officers showed up. But that was only the beginning. Just seconds later, a statement was made. And that single line sparked the entire confrontation that followed. >> How you doing? >> Good. Yourself? >> He's a civilian. He's choosing to not be videotaped. You have to stop videotaping him. He's a civilian. You can videotape me all you want. He does not want to be videotaped. >> It's not an option for you. >> You're wrong. >> Pardon me. >> You're wrong. >> No. No. He's a civilian. He doesn't want any part of it. That's what he just expressed to me. I'm not wrong. I know the law. >> This guy just said, "I am not wrong. I know the law. You cannot film a civilian." What an [ __ ] >> You're welcome to videotape me. You cannot videotape him or his license plate. >> You're wrong. I can videotape him and I can videotape you. >> No, he's a civilian. He does that. He's a private human being. >> When the understanding of the law was called into question, the atmosphere immediately became more tense than ever. But what's notable is that it didn't stop at words. Just minutes later, actions began to escalate. And what happened next will make you wonder, is this still law enforcement or has it crossed the line? >> License or registration, please? What's your ID? >> Did you just call me a loser? >> You just approached the cruiser after I asked you not. You have an ID on you, please, sir. >> Did you just call me a loser? >> Do you have an ID on you, sir? >> Sir, can you call your supervisor? >> I already have. Listen, you're you're very close. You should not walk up to police vehicles. Why you walking up to me? >> I'm asking you for your ID. You don't even have a mask on. You're putting my life in jeopardy, sir. Keep 6 ft away. >> Thank you, sir. Why are you approaching me? >> Lower your lower your camera. You're welcome to videotape me, but civilians don't have to be videotaped. >> We'll see when your supervisor gets here. Why you keep approaching? >> He's heading out into traffic. I'm going to have to detain him if he heads out into traffic. >> This is a public easement. This is a public easement right here. So, I could be right here. can't detain me for what? >> For asking. You can just call me a loser. I have it on camera. >> I have no idea what you're talking about. >> Well, I have it on camera. >> That's good. Good for you. That's a productive identify yourself. >> That civilian chooses to not be videotaped. >> Can you identify yourself? >> That's absolutely not. You have no lawful no lawful business here. You're not >> Can you identify yourself? >> Absolutely not. >> Man, this cop is dirty. Think how many lives this douchebag has ruined. >> Can you identify yourself? Chapter 41, section 98D, states that upon lawful order, you must identify >> upon lawful order. And you're giving me a lawful order? >> Yes. >> Yeah. No. Nice try, though. >> Okay. >> It's a nice try. Google works well for you. I I try that. >> Didn't work well for you. >> Again, your best, sir. >> What is your purpose? You're interfering with a motor vehicle stop. He didn't want to be videotaped. That's his prerogative. He's He's a civilian. You can videotape me. You cannot videotape him. >> Okay, we'll see about that. So now we have unmarked vehicle. >> When words were no longer enough, actions began to push the situation out of control. But what stood out was that neither side was willing to back down. Then a new development occurred, shifting the entire situation into a completely different phase. >> Can you stop approaching me? Can you stop walking behind me? Pardon me. Don't be in my traffic, sir. Sir. Sir, back up. Go. >> You did say it's a right away, right? A public way. And I can go anywhere I want. >> Blocking me. >> Sir, can you have him back up? I'm fearing for my life >> again. You're interfering with a motor vehicle stop. >> Is this what police? >> You have no business in that motor vehicle stop. No lawful business. You are interfering with a motor vehicle stop. >> He's a police officer. You have to comply with the police officer. >> Comply? He's blocking my walk with my free my freeway to to walk. >> I have you stopped me to to inquire situation. You're not complying with him. >> What are you talking about? You weren't even here. >> I'll wait for the supervisor. Do not videotape him. It's illegal. >> You have nothing to do. >> What law is that? >> Can you state the law that I can't me? Can I state the law? No, I don't have to state the law. I can tell you that doesn't exist. >> What happened? >> He does not want to be videotaped. >> He pulled up and asked me. He said, "Please have him remove me from that video. I do not want to be videotaped." >> Okay. That's his lawful business. >> So, what are you saying? that that I'm I'm trying to impart to you that you need to delete that application. >> Is there a victim here? >> I was just I have no idea who he is. Just walked up and interfere with a motor vehicle stop. >> Exactly who he is. I know exactly who chose to interfere with a motor vehicle stop. The gentleman in the motor vehicle stop did not want to be videotaped. He expressed that he was very articulate about you luckily could be arrested for interfering, right? You know that. How did I interfere? How did I interfere? Explain that to me. How did I interfere? >> Explain to me. How did I interfere? >> He asked not to be videotaped. Very respectful. >> That is not allowed. There is no expectation of privacy in public. Sir, you're totally wrong. >> You're videotaping a civilian. >> You are totally wrong. See, there's a camera right there. >> Madam, what's the big deal? Are you enjoying this? >> What are you talking about? >> Wow. There must be no crime in rever to have >> seven. Why don't you go home? Why don't you go home? Trust me, I'm going to be here before you until you leave. >> At this point, [music] everything had reached its limit. As the exchange of words spiraled out of control, the situation began to take an unpredictable turn. And just when it seemed like the story was about to end, a new development emerged, shifting everything into a completely different direction. >> Can't do [ __ ] Only y'all. Now you're pissing me off. I'm not going to >> You ain't going to do [ __ ] >> No. >> That's what you're going to do. You're going to tuck your chest between your legs and you're going to walk. >> Yes, of course. That's cuz we have jobs to do and you you however hang around on the sidewalk and do nothing. Your job is to hang around the sidewalk and harass innocent people. You're harassing civilians. >> Go away. >> There go. >> Yeah. Go. Go. Put your ego away and go. >> I really need your name. Where's that supervisor? >> At the police station. And you're welcome to go there and get it. >> Is this what you do? >> Is this what I pay you to do? >> You have to pay. You have to have a job to pay somebody to do something. >> I'm I guarantee you I make more money than you, punk. >> That's why you're like 68 years old. You have no stripes. >> Sure you do. >> You're a loser. >> I'm sure you do. >> Have a nice day. >> Stripes. Two of them. That punk just left. Another one's going to leave. I want to make sure they all leave. >> Have a nice day. Another fine use of your time. >> Look how you park. Look how you tyrants. Look how you park. call. >> Yeah, you have all the calls. That's what I thought. Leave. >> Can I get your name and badge number? >> Can I get your name? >> Can I get your name and badge number? >> Yep. 366 right there. >> What's your name? >> You don't have a badge number. >> Sir, your name and badge number. >> All right. So, did he fail to identify? Cruiser 7382. There's a new sheriff in town. You better get used to it. Just what I thought. I'm going to walk through here and you ain't going to do [ __ ] >> Good luck. >> You called for backup. The [ __ ] came and they left. You got no help. >> Good luck with that. >> Good luck with what? >> Good luck with what? >> Poor old man you harassed. >> Shut up, man. Good luck. Shut up. I did a good job. >> Shut up. >> You didn't even do [ __ ] >> Congratulations. You intimidated us. You intimidated. >> I'm still right here. Good job. I'm still right here >> again. >> Again, nothing. You're gonna chuck your chill. And this is called the walk of shame. >> It's the walk of shame. >> Shame on you. Get on your car. Get out of here, little punk. >> Just what I thought. >> It's unfortunate. >> Exactly. It's unfortunate that we have pigs like you working for us. You pig. >> Well, now we'll be filing complaint against you, dumbass. >> What? No one was arrested, but something clearly wasn't right. From the way it was handled to everything that just happened, it all leaves a big question mark. In a civilized society, the law is not only for the people, it also sets limits [music] for those who enforce it. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, [music] don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank [music] you so much.