Here's what I'm going to do, okay? Do what you want to do. I'm going to call for another unit, okay? >> And then >> 148.g, California Penal Code 148.g. Just step out of the roadway on the side here so you don't get run over by cars. Did you hear me? One camera. One officer crossing the line. And the price paid when power is abused in public. It does not allow >> You're not You don't get to yell at me. >> It does not >> don't get to yell at me. You don't get to yell I know that, but you're wrong. You're infringing on my civil rights. >> Will you please stand over to the side? >> as you leave, do not touch anything. As soon as you leave, we'll leave because >> Can you stand out of the roadway? When police act unlawfully against lawful citizens, the badge is no longer a shield. The consequences begin the very moment it happens. Everything is still quiet. Just a few steps along a public roadway. But eyes begin to follow. And a very small moment soon after signals that trouble is close. No, thank you. Okay. All right, thanks. Appreciate Yeah, we know we know how to go around the streets. Thanks. This stinks is a herd directive. Help! Help! You hear this guy? He got caught, too. He thought he's being sneaky and he popped out right where we were at. Mr. uh Inspector uh I was going to try to pop a sneak and I looked right at him. Yeah, and he popped right out where we were at. There you go. That's their terrorist. Watch. They're going to harass what they're thinking of us. Well, Miss Cal uh Miss California Transparency is armed with a Canon. Look. It says Canon. So. And there they are. Look, they're looking at us. Those watching eyes no longer stay still. From the initial silence, the atmosphere begins to shift and just minutes later a direct confrontation officially erupts. You're taking uh on a port property. That was on the public access. >> permission from the entity. >> Excuse me, sir. Excuse me, you're alive on the internet and don't come over here barking orders. We know what we're doing. We're press. We know where we're allowed to be. We're on the public access. We're not crossing. We're Excuse me. >> You have to have a press pass. You have to have a press pass. Let me see your press >> We don't need a press pass. You're not going to see nothing from me. You're not going to see nothing. All right. Here's what I'm going to do, okay? Do what you need to do. >> I'm going to call for another unit, okay? 148.g, California Penal Code 148.g, okay? First Amendment. You're You are about to >> not allow >> You don't get to yell at me. >> It does not allow you >> get to yell at me. You don't get to yell at me. You don't work for me. >> Why? You work for me. YOU DON'T I WORK FOR YOU DON'T WORK FOR ME, RIGHT? I don't work for you. >> You work for me, sir. No, I work for the Port Authority. Exactly. That's right. And because this is port property, you are not allowed to take pho- photographs on port property. >> This is public property, sir. >> This is port property, sir. Sir, anybody can drive up and down this street. You have to allow access, okay? This is a bicycle lane. >> You can do what you're going to do, but you're going to get a lot of trouble. I would call your supervisor. >> can call the director for all I care. Uh you're on You're live on the internet. >> I know that. Okay, so I know that, but you're wrong. You're infringing on my several rights, okay? >> Okay, then prove me Prove me wrong. Arrest me. This is private property. No, it's not. This is the port that belongs to the people. What are you talking about? You see this guys? Uh 44. Can I get a supervisor, please? Come and yell at the people that you work for, sir? Shame on you. Who do you work for, sir? >> for the Port Authority. And where where do you get your money from? I get my money from the Port >> can you guys call the port? You're going to get a bunch of phone calls. You're going to be put in your place today about And guess what? I don't work for the Port Authority. You're not going to infringe on my rights today, sir. >> I don't know who you think you are. You You know what? Do you have port port credentials? We don't need them. We have the First Amendment. If you have If you're saying you're a press If you're a press man If you're a port If you're saying you're a press man that you're a press man, you have to have port credentials. >> Get your finger and you're spitting on me now. Get away from me. >> Yeah, so I'm telling you >> It is >> We're going to walk like we were walking and you're going to leave us alone, sir. Thank you. >> You can keep walking. At this point, the argument is no longer just words. Voices rise, distance closes, and every sentence begins to carry weight. Just a few more seconds, and everything is about to cross into a completely different line. Yes, we are. You're free You're free Hey, we're free to go. We're free to stay. If no, you're going to get You're going to learn a big lesson today, sir, about the First Amendment, who you work for, and 148.g. 148.g says I can do You have to have press passes. Where's your press pass? >> Can you [ __ ] stop getting your finger in my face? >> Show me your press pass. Show me your press pass. >> [ __ ] would you do that to me without your [ __ ] gun? Yes, I would. >> No, you wouldn't. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. >> Hold on. You're going to lose your lose your job. You're going to lose your job over this stupidity. Look at this guy. Stay away from me. Stay away. No, I'm going to tell you to [ __ ] you Okay, go ahead. Stay right here. Go ahead and stay right here. Go ahead and video tape this. Okay? >> This guy. In a few minutes, I'm going to arrest you for 148. Really? 148.g >> officer in the performance of his duties. >> Really? Yes, I will. What law are you enforcing? I am enforcing the port's Somebody call Felipe Hernandez. You're going to get a call right now. Okay? So, you can You can anytime you want. We can go. >> press pass. I'm not going to show you [ __ ] >> have a press pass. You don't Then we will. Arrest me. Arrest me. You're going to learn a big lesson. You will learn a lesson. >> I get to [ __ ] travel free in my country without any [ __ ] coming up to me telling me that I got >> me your press pass. You're saying you're a press man. If you're not a press man, arrest me or shut up. No. I'm not going to do [ __ ] I'm going to keep being free just like I was. Okay. So. And and look at this guy. And Miss California transparency, look at it. You're going to You're going to get a demotion. You're going to get a You're going to get a talking to about the way you treat people in public. Okay. You're not Jackie Chan, okay? This guy's all in my face because we're walking down the street and we're taking pictures on the public on the public access right here. Not crossing no boundaries and this guy's going to pull up like he owns me. I'm 52 years old. >> pass? I ain't got to show you no press pass. Then then you're not the press. Really? Yes. What's free press, dumbass? What's free >> to have a press pass. >> What's free press? Press has to have a press pass. >> as press. You have to have a press by a Look at this guy. Or municipality. Otherwise, you're not a press man, okay? >> at you. You got 600 people laughing at you. >> Okay, go ahead. Laugh all you want. The first By this point, nearly every limit is being tested. Words are no longer just an exchange. They become pressure. And right after that, the response from the other side completely changes the direction of the situation. Uh you're going to get a demotion. You see this? He was going to take off his gun and fight me. I got it all on video. Yeah, we're just protecting our first amendment, walking down the street, taking pictures. He pulls up and starts She has the videos. What happened? Okay, no no, I'm talking to you. Go ahead. >> But I don't need to talk. We're just going We're going walking like we were and take being free, man. We're We're exercising our First Amendment. No, I don't. Okay. I don't. >> thing is The thing is, sir, that No, you can't turn a First Amendment protected activity to you trying to ID me, sir. Okay. That's not the way 148.g works, sir. Okay. Okay, hold California Penal Code. I'm allowed to practice my First Amendment without having to show you unless you you can articulate a crime that I've committed. I am not going to give you ID, sir. I am not committing no crime, so if I was you, can you stop impeding my way? I'm going to keep going and being free and taking pictures. >> you called me out here today. >> I didn't call you. He called you. Okay. So, I'm So, I'm done, sir. You have a good day. I didn't mean to call you. I didn't call you, sir. I didn't need no assistance. We were walking on our way, sir. I don't want to talk no more, but that's the way it was, sir. Okay. The The thing is, is, sir Sir, I'm just being free and he came up and spitting in my face, sir. No. No. Let How How am I No. No. No. Wait. No. Listen. Can I talk to you? >> No, because I don't work for you. You work for me, sir. I don't have to listen to you. You have to listen to me. I am one of your constituents and you need to get your little freaking bulldog off me cuz he was spitting He took off his gun live on the internet and was going to fight me. I Can you please make contact because I I'm fearing for my life right now. Can you please stay away from me? Thank you. Sir. I I already asked you a question, sir. Illegal Okay. No, I don't need to talk, sir. >> Hey, we'll walk and talk. I don't need to walk. I I'm already upset because this guy's in my face. >> walking and talking. I don't need to talk to you. How many How rude do you have to be, sir? >> I'm not being rude. I don't want to talk to you. I want to break off contact, sir. Sir. No, I don't want to talk to you, sir. >> tell you what I'm trying to explain to you. I don't want to explain. I know what my freedoms are. I don't need to be told. It doesn't matter their feelings, their policy do not trump my First Amendment, sir. So, just please stop trying to explain it away and just go away and leave Let us be free, please. Everything finally slows down. But, the tension hasn't disappeared. As the confrontation begins to settle, the real consequences start to surface, and the story is far from over. I'm going to try to get his badge number. I need his badge number and name, please. His. You have a serial number, sir? I No, I didn't I don't know He never gave it to me. >> Okay, well Louie Nog. And And what's his badge number? 36. Okay. There you go, guys. That's who you know who to make your complaints to. Yeah, [ __ ] you. Yeah, [ __ ] you. They thought they were going to tell us what to do, Miss Ash. You ain't infringing on our civil rights. Not today. I'll go to jail before you do that. I had already given the the keys to Miss California Transparency. I had a feeling on this one. Thank you, Miss California Transparency, for being here. Thank you, girl. That guy was spitting in our face, pointing his finger. I'll tell you what, I've never felt like hitting an officer more than that time. You know what's great? Is he did all that live on the internet, guys. Live. >> live. Live on the internet. There's 900 people watching. Apparently, some of those are them because he got a call that said he's going live. >> live. So, there is the power. He told me that I wasn't impressed. Well, almost 50 million views, buddy. I'd hate to tell him prove you wrong, but I'm not bragging. But, yes, we are free press. And whether you have 50 million views or 500 views, you are free press. Whether you have five views, you have free you are free press. And don't let anybody tell you different. After everything, emotions still haven't cooled down. What just happened was not simply a roadside argument. Citizens may sue police under Section 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers who break the law may face civil liability, discipline, or even termination. Up next, in a remote area with little foot traffic, a group of citizens begins recording. No one expects that this seemingly quiet place is about to become the center of a tense confrontation. You guys turn yourself in. Come on in to the lobby, please. You guys turn yourselves in. Oh, people are turning themselves in. They want them to go inside the lobby? Yeah. Is gate opening or closing? I think one kept it closed and the other one open so I would nobody can just drive in. >> It's good. How you doing, folks? How you guys doing? Just wanted to come out here and talk to you guys and find out what's going on today. You guys just filming? Yes? No? No one's talking. Nobody's interested in talking? Here to say hi, see what you guys were up to. Let's leave. I'm going to call the police. At this moment, everything still seems within bounds. The conversation sounds normal, even supportive. But just a few minutes later, the approach changes and the situation begins to turn in a completely different direction. Is there anything we can do to help you guys out, accommodate you in any way? You're just out here filming? All right, here is a couple things we'd like to ask you to do. Don't block traffic. Don't stand in the roadway. If you guys would just step off to the side so you guys don't get hit by cars either leaving or entering facility. Sir? As you can see, cars are flying by here really fast. Hey, uh if you can step over here to the side. Hello. Excuse me. Hello. Are you just going to ignore me? Cuz you're standing in the roadway. I'm asking you to step out of the roadway on the side here so you don't get run over by cars. This is private property. Yes? No? Did you hear me? Guys, can you slide on over? Slide on over. This way. No, we're good. All right, stand back. Stand back. Stand back. Stand back. I apologize. I am going to be on what I'm asking you guys is to just get out of the roadway. Stand over to the side. Film all you want. Is there a problem with that? Does anybody understand what he said? Sir. Get out of the roadway, please. Step over to the side and film all you want. Hello. Excuse me. Please. Guys, I want to say can you please stand over to the side? >> you leave, do not touch anybody. You leave and you stand out of the roadway. You you do not touch anybody. You do not have authority. Excuse me, sir. There is no cars coming and you are in the street, too. You are in the street, too, sir. Because you are. Yes, sir. So. Clean your own It's it's not dark yet. >> Please clean your act up before you come out here and try to clean our act up, sir. The initial reminders sound harmless, even framed as safety. But each following statement begins to carry a different weight. As the tone shifts and patience wears thin, the line between dialogue and confrontation is pushed to its limit. So, that doesn't apply at this point. If we were to drive out on the roadway, yes, that would apply, sir. What we're doing is making sure you guys are safe out here. There's no possible way you could do that, sir. There's no possible way you could do that, sir. There's no possible way you could do that, sir. Cuz we were here we were safe before we got here and we're going to be safe after we leave here and you had nothing absolutely to do with it. >> screaming by here. it is not your responsibility to take care of me. >> Okay, that's fine. Is that true or not? No, it is my responsibility. No, no, it's not, sir. If you guys were to get hit by a car Sir, no, no, sir. No, you're very mistaken. As a man as a man You're mistaken. >> As a man, I don't need another man to take care of me, sir. Okay, you're not understanding what I'm saying, though. >> No, no, you're not understanding your If you get hit by a car in the roadway, I have an obligation to render aid. >> you're not on I do. By the supreme By supreme court, you do not. >> I do have I do have an obligation You're dismissed now. You can go now. No, you're not the boss of me, so you can't ask me to >> to You're going to believe now because now you're telling us to do something I'm that we're old enough to know better. >> stay here as much. Every right that you have to stand here, I do as well. Are you in [clears throat] your official capacity right now, sir? Yes, I am. Okay, yeah. What What is your specific job to stand out here? >> you here at the jail, yes. Stand out here And it's to advise you guys, "Hey, >> We don't need your advisement, sir. We don't need your advisement, sir. Thank you. I would like to advise you not to violate anybody's rights in this area. Have I violated your rights tonight? Have Have I Yes or no? >> no. No Yes or no? No, no, no. Since you're going to tell me what to do, I'm going to tell you what to do, sir. Do not beat your wife. Do not beat your wife tonight. >> Have I violated your rights >> kick your dog tonight, sir. Did I violate your rights tonight? Do not make a U-turn from the right turn. I haven't violated your rights tonight. Do not kick your dog, sir. >> Okay, I don't own a dog. Dog need yellow snow. I don't. Okay, see that's how it sounds when you come out here and give me directives that I don't need. I'm not forcing you to do anything. >> No, no, but you're giving me directives I don't need, sir. I'm not forcing you to do anything. >> You could I'm not giving you a directive. >> force me to do anything, sir, but you couldn't. So, give me that >> No, no, no, but you couldn't. You couldn't. >> I know I I can't, but I haven't. Have I? Well, because you can't. Because you can't. Have I? You can't. Simple simple simple question. The law The law keeps you in check, sir. Sir, the law keeps you in check just like me. Because you can't, sir. Because you We don't need directives, sir, and you are blocking traffic now. You're dismissed. Okay. No, I'm not dismissed. Yeah, you are. I have every right to be here. You'll be dis The The exchange at this point no longer stays at words. Repeated demands, increasingly rigid attitudes, and tension hanging in the air. With each side holding firmly to its position, just one more step and everything will turn in a completely different direction. Officers do not have an obligation to protect anybody, sir, and I'm not >> let I'm saying things that I I don't know if you actually know the ruling on which Sir, are you really Are you really that Are you really that argumentative and dumb? >> I'm not arguing, sir. No, I'm not. I'm So, then why won't you Why won't you let somebody else finish a whole sentence? >> say the Supreme Court ruled that uh we can charge people for breathing air. Okay, now you're being Now you're being an idiot. I'm sorry, but you're being an You're being an >> If I give you a a an actual Supreme Court case >> being dumb now, sir. >> then you can look it up, right? >> You know 148.g, California Penal Code? 148.g? >> Yes, sir. Section >> {paren} g? >> 148, sub-subsection g, sir. >> Subsection g? >> Yes. I can't quote off top of my head. >> Well, that is the law on public photography, sir. Okay. And that law >> I barred you from photographing? >> No, but you Okay, but you are interrupting my video. No, I'm not. >> Yes, you are. I We told you we didn't talk to you. We didn't want no contact. The only reason I talked to you The only reason I talked to you and I'm going to show in the video because you went to You touched him. >> I did. Okay, that's why I intervened. That's why I speak I spoke. >> was no ill intent. There was no intent to harm you. >> Sir, we No, sir. We didn't let you touch him anymore, okay? >> I apologize for touching you, sir. We didn't let you. I told you to let go of him. >> Do I need to call a an ambulance or a >> It's not the point that it's not the >> talking to you. I'm talking to him. Wow, your painting is on the wall. Sir, are you hurt in some way by me touching your side and asking you to move to the side of the road? Probably not. Sir, how many people have you hurt while you've been working on this job? >> Absolutely none. How many investigations have you had? >> Yes, sir. How many How many people have you violated when no one's looking? >> Violated people's rights? No. not when no one's looking, sir, because by your attitude you're going to see what people are going to say. You're very cold and and and you're unwilling to you're very calculated. You came out here with with Sir, sir. Sir, you can put on your your your question. One to get you out of the roadway, number one. And I got a question [music] for you. When was the last time you had a psychological evaluation, sir? You're dismissed, sir. Kenny, you're dismissed. How long ago was that, Kenny? How long ago was that? A while, man. You need another one. You need another psychological evaluation, buddy. Everything pauses here, but the heavy feeling remains. What just unfolded wasn't simply a brief argument. It's a sign that a much bigger issue is coming into view. And this story [music] is far from over. Every act of abuse of power leaves a mark on public trust, on the dignity of [music] those who enforce the law, and on the very foundation of the rule of law in society. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]