Well, you're part of this point I have you on a lawful investigation. I need to identify who you are. So, you're supposed to ID yourself. Is there a sign out here? Is there? More than likely, yeah. I know there's one right there. Let's see. Well, no. First, I'd rather just get your ID and figure out who we're talking to, my man. If Just because of a camera, the police immediately demanded ID. But, they didn't realize the person standing in front of them [music] knew his rights very well. If I'm requesting your ID and from part of a investigation, which this is what this is, uh then you are supposed to identify yourself. Okay. Uh no, but right now you're technically trespassing in a secure parking lot. >> No one's asked me to leave. An ID request [music] that seemed completely routine, but this time it could become evidence of abuse of power. A man walks into a post [music] office with a camera in his hand, and just minutes later the employees start to panic. They insist that filming is completely illegal, but the man seems to know the law far better than they think. Sir, can I help you? I'm fine, thank you. Sir? Sir? You're pointing it directly at my credit card machine. That's not allowable. You might be recording someone's information. I need you to please turn it off. No, ma'am. Hello, ma'am. Sir, it's against the law to be in this building, and you need to leave before I call >> I asked him to leave, and he would not. Got to call the police. >> Uh he's got a video camera. What I'm scared of is he's going to record your private information. He's got his credit card in his hand. Just stand in front of him, okay? I'm sorry. >> [laughter] >> Is anything legal? After being told to turn off the camera and leave the post office, the man remains calm. Other customers begin to notice the camera in his hand. The atmosphere inside the post office grows more tense as some [clears throat] employees worry that the filming could cause problems. And soon after, he reveals the real reason behind the camera. Rogue Nation. Yeah. How you doing? Good. Good. It's all There's good stuff. Mhm. Am I going to be on TV? No, I'm just recording for uh distribution purposes as far as like letting citizens see how our officials interact with other citizens and that sort of thing. So, it's a civic duty. Keep them honest, exactly. You know, just like the police that park their car and then leave it, no one's sitting in it on the side of the road. >> Yeah. It's not going to catch any speeders, but it's going to slow some down. Super. After he explains the purpose of the filming, the atmosphere inside the post office seems to calm down. Some customers even appear fairly comfortable with the camera being there. But, behind the counter, someone still isn't ready to let it go. And just minutes later, the situation suddenly escalates in a completely different direction. What's going on, man? You got to talk to me. What happened? I'm just asking what's going on, postman. You see it? Recording. Okay. Um It's a federal law, 39 CFR 232.1, conduct on postal property. It's a federal law. Plus, I've talked to the postal inspector, Chris Martin, out of Jacksonville, Florida. If you need any further explanation, I'll be glad to give it to you. Postal Inspector Chris Martin. Jacksonville, Florida. Thank you. The postal inspector The postal inspector is above the postmaster. Yes, they are. Postal inspector wouldn't have called me and informed me. Because he's your boss? Yes. So, what are you recording for? Keeping the public officials accountable, public workers. Post office loses about $12 billion a year, give or take. You know, there's some bad practices, so sometimes stealing from the postal people, sometimes drug dealing, sending drugs through the mail. So, we got to be vigilant in order to catch criminals, right? You're not wrong in that. Absolutely. So, just because somebody works for the government doesn't mean that they can't be a criminal and shouldn't be watched. Fair enough. You have an ID to use so I know who I'm talking to? No, I don't give ID. Well, you're part of this point I have you on a lawful investigation. I need to identify who you are. What statute number is that? Any time that you're involved in an investigation, you're supposed to ID yourself. Okay. [snorts] What's the statute number for that? Because if if you're saying that I have to do something, there's a Florida statute number attached to me having to do anything. So, if I have to do something, if I'm lawfully required >> You're lawfully required to give it to If I'm requesting your ID and from part of a investigation The exchange between the cameraman and the police quickly becomes tense. Questions about identity and citizens' rights keep coming up. But, the man doesn't back down, and soon he begins citing specific laws, making the situation even more interesting. So, this is what this is, Mhm. and you are supposed to identify yourself. Okay. What What statute number is that, though? What statute number says during a police investigation said person has to give ID. What statute number is that? It even says on your your job Do you have a driver's license? I could possibly have one, but that's if I'm driving a motor vehicle. I don't need a driver's license if I don't drive. You're absolutely right in that. Mhm. Yeah, the only statute in Florida requiring ID is 951.051, I believe. And that's if I've been lawfully detained or arrested. And in order to do that, you have to suspect me of a crime. Okay? There's no crime that's been committed here. The federal law is posted right on their wall. You know, it doesn't get much more plainer than that. You see these all over the state. So. I just saw one of these first auditors on YouTube. It's pretty much what it is. Yep. I just came by to drop off some mail, and I saw him just standing in the back like this, like all quiet. Yep. Um is that Was it Rogue Nation? Yep. Yeah, pretty cool. Cuz I I told my wife, like, "You know what? That manager who just spoke to me, pretty much any minute some some police officers will show up." And sure enough, I see two patrol cars show up, and It's always how it goes. Yeah, it's getting pretty common. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Good to see y'all. Bye. Yep. Have a good one, bud. So, you do this all around the state? All over the state. I've been in almost every county in Florida. How long? Almost 2 years. I've been through Wildwood here about a year ago. They uh caught me on the back side of the street over there, a guy with a scale tattoos on his arm, a lady, and some some other guy. I don't know, there were three or four of them that showed up, but I did city hall, the health department, and then I was walking back on the road back behind there when they pregnant, but I haven't been here in a year, so I figured I'd come through town and make sure everybody's still doing good, and make sure people don't freak out when After several minutes of discussion, the atmosphere begins to calm down. The police realize that the situation isn't as simple as they initially thought, and their next decision will bring this confrontation to an unexpected ending. All right, man. Like I was just telling her, I don't have any issues with you videotaping out here and stuff, but would you do me the favor of meeting her halfway and staying out here in the lobby? Well, I was actually almost done with my audit. Um you know, just depends, but legally I'm allowed to go in there. It says right here, it's a federal law. And again, I've talked to plenty post offices, plenty postal inspectors. >> I'm not telling you it's not a federal law. I'm just asking you to give me half way. Well, yeah, I understand that, but I just wanted to let you know and let her know that it is my right. I'm allowed to do that. And if I do stay out of there, it's just because I'm being courteous today and not as a matter of law or matter of right. You know what I'm saying? >> You're recording people's personal information. >> I don't record people's personal information. I mean, I know that sounds >> on it. I I'm And it sounds great, but uh but I've been doing this for 2 years over I'd say over 30 to 50 post offices in the state, and not one time has anybody ever come to me with evidence or accuse me of taking personal information or using personal information. >> a first. Yeah, there is always a first. And you could shoot up the post office, but no one's pat you down for a gun you walk in the morning. Yeah, so I mean, there's always a first. All right. I mean, if >> Just give me a federal law or half way. Well, I Like I said, it's it's again, it's my right. You know, her attitude about that kind of stuff doesn't make me want to, you know, give her leeway because obviously, she doesn't understand the citizen's right. You know, there's always a first time. And do we assume people are criminals just because we have the camera now? No. I I That's what she was saying. Oh, you could be getting people's personal information. I could be standing behind them at the counter there and looking over while he's punching in his keypad. I do. You know, what do I need a camera for to be criminal? Yeah, I get that. You know, that's that's ridiculous thinking. But yeah, I I got other places to be today, so I'm going to get out of here, but I just wanted to let her know that it's all right. It's legally allowed. And and you know, that kind of attitude by people that are taking money, you know, from the citizens to do this work should be a little bit more respectful, little bit more uh you know, forthcoming. Like when you walk into a private business, you know how they're always like, "Hey, good to see you." You know what I mean? "What can we do for you?" Am I going to be on TV? No, sir, you're not. I don't think so. >> [laughter] >> Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Living the good life now, huh? Oh, yeah. After all the debates about rights and the law, the police finally leave the scene. No handcuffs, no arrest, only the discussion about citizen's rights remains. Up next, a man holding a camera appears in the police department's parking lot. Just seconds later, an officer approaches with a suspicious look. And from that moment, a tense conversation begins. I'm going to run him down. That's all right. That's new, sir. Yeah, forward. What's going on today? A lot. Oh, but you're filming, though. Something's got to be going on. What's going on? Whatever you want to be going on. Whatever I want to be going on? I don't want to be going on. I want to know why you're here filming the secure parking lot of law enforcement. This is secure? Yes. It's considered secure at the time. Yes, sir. Is it? >> Yeah. I didn't see a fence or a secure sign. >> there postal law enforcement only, do not enter. Oh, yeah, back there. Well, that's also for this area as well, where there's police vehicles and stuff like that that are parked here for the security of police vehicles being parked here. Is there a sign out here that says that? More than likely, yeah. Can you point it out? >> Uh I know there's one right there. Let's see. Well, no, first I'd rather just get your ID and figure out who we're talking to, my man, if you know what I mean. I don't have an ID. As far as telling you that we're not in a secure location, work here, and I know what's been passed along to me as far as what's secure and what's not, you know, so you're trying to tell me now you don't have an ID. Okay, well, what's your name? Uh have I committed a crime? Uh no, but right now, you're technically trespassing in a secure parking lot of No one's asked me to leave. Well, I'm not asking you to leave, but I'm trying to figure out what your intentions are here while you're walking around Okay, well, before I can be trespassed about the people who who work here, who park here for work, for the purpose of work, that this is a police department parking lot. This is not just a public parking lot. Mainly, the parking that goes to public is usually on this side of the parking lot or over there by the city hall. After a few minutes of conversation, the exchange between the cameraman and the officer becomes more tense. Questions about his identity and the purpose of filming keep coming up. But the man doesn't back down. And soon, the situation suddenly shifts when someone else arrives at the scene. here? Public parking is usually over there, yes, sir. What do you mean usually? Well, when there's no police vehicles or law or fire department vehicle being utilized in this area, it's usually open to the public to utilize it if the city hall parking lot is full. Okay, so they park there, and then they can't walk through here because this is secure. Yes. Where do they walk then? Do they sit in their car? >> They they walk that way, away from the police department. >> What if they're going to the police department? Then if they're going to the police department, we have a parking lot up front. Oh. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. Mhm. Okay, so go ahead with your name, my man. I'm not giving my name. Why not? Cuz I'm not required by law to. Oh, no, but I definitely would like to know who you are. Sweet. I'd like to know the winning lotto numbers. You got those? What's going on? No. Okay. That's it? Have a good day, guys. All right, so supervisor came by and told them to get the hell down. The tense exchange finally comes to a pause. The rapid questions about identity and the purpose of filming stop, but the camera keeps rolling, and the man begins taking a closer look around the police department. Can't believe we're letting this guy record us. Holy moly. Good. How are you? All right, looks like a supervisor of some kind. Seems pretty knowledgeable. He's giving me no slack at all. I guess there's other cars parked over here. Not sure if that's like an overfill lot or if that's for some of the older vehicles. But um See? Law enforcement parking only. So this this definitely um definitely taxpayer-funded vehicles. So that's cool. Got these nice iron Looks like iron shutters for the window, maybe hurricane shutters. Got one, two, three, four security cameras right out here, five on the face of the building. Pretty secure. I'm I'm I'm betting those are hurricane shutters. Outside the [snorts] police station, it seems like no one is paying attention to the camera anymore. Everything returns to normal. But the cameraman isn't finished with his audit yet. And just a few minutes later, he begins capturing some interesting scenes inside the area. Got a little bit of a glare, so you can't really see a lot. But it's nice that way that you know who's out there working in the community. Not bad. The officer creep right here. >> [clears throat] >> Seems like no one is working right now. They've disappeared. Not sure. Maybe bathroom break. That seems pretty clean, not a lot of clutter. So, that's pretty good. There's some people getting in. Car outside. All right, all in all I'd have to say a pretty good interaction. There was some doofus that uh kind of came on strong there in the beginning, but uh supervisor showed up and shut him down. So, it's going to be a pass for the police department here today. After all the initial tension, everything ultimately ends quietly. No one is arrested and no charges are filed, but it raises an important question. Do people truly understand their rights when dealing with government authorities? Citizens may file a lawsuit against police under Section 1983 if their rights are violated. Officers who abuse their authority can face legal consequences, including financial liability, >> [music] >> disciplinary action, or even termination. A civilized society is built not only on laws, but also on mutual respect between citizens and the government. Hey everyone. What do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, >> [music] >> don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so [music] much.