I need to know what uh what you're doing, why you're doing it. Some ID on you, please. I don't give my name unless I'm suspected of a crime. Well, I'm looking into a trespass, so I do have a lawful reason to be out here with you. Oh, do you? A routine police encounter suddenly took a different turn when one simple question was asked. What law have I broken? Can I see some ID on you, please? What crime do you suspect me of? I don't suspect you of any crime, sir. I'm just asking you for some identification. Well, we're not trespassing. I'll go and look into it. What's your last name? I don't Again, I don't give my name. >> law. Police thought asking for ID would be enough. But in an era where cameras are always rolling, one small mistake can quickly turn into evidence in court. On a light rainy day outside Joseph V. Detention Facility in Broward County, a man stood quietly on a public sidewalk filming. But just a few minutes later, the arrival of police officers quickly turned the calm scene into a tense situation. Our rights are crispy today. Broward County. We're at the Joseph V. Conte Detention Facility. So, it's a little bit of a rainy day. Getting a couple splashes here and there, as you guys can probably hear and maybe even see on the lens. I'm trying to keep it dry. They've got their outdoor facilities there for the inmates. You have a babysitter? Maybe. I think he might have just pulled up. I don't know. Yeah. The presence of the camera quickly drew attention from inside the facility as several staff members began watching and moving closer. Within minutes, an officer decided to approach directly, sparking a tense exchange right there at the scene. Yeah. You got a stalker? Yeah, he was watching. How you doing? Sir? Sir? How you doing? You can speak to me, it's okay. How are you? Can I help you? Sir, can I help you? I need to know what uh what you're doing, why you're doing it. Some ID on you, please. You're allowed to do that. It's not a problem, but I do need to see some ID. Sir, are you going to respond to me or you speak English? Yeah, I speak. Okay, can I see some ID on you, please? What crime do you suspect me of? I don't suspect you of any crime, sir. I'm just asking you for some identification. I don't give my name. >> Nothing to get The officer repeatedly questioned the reason for filming and demanded identification. Instead of complying, the cameraman calmly asked a question that immediately changed the direction of the conversation. What crime do you suspect me of? From that moment on, the exchange turned into a debate about the law and citizens' rights. What law is that? If a law enforcement officer requests ID from you, you're supposed to produce identification. What's the statute number for that? Off the top of my head, I couldn't tell you. Here comes my buddy, just so you know. That's fine. Okay. But I didn't want you to say he's walking up behind you without knowing. >> fine. Um I mean, if you're with the film crew, news media, whatever, that's all fine and dandy. You guys are allowed You guys are allowed to do that. The statute is 901.151, and it's only if you suspect me of committing, have committed, or are about to commit a crime. >> Or if you enter onto property such as this. Uh there's no regulations under that statute for this >> have We do have regulations on where media is allowed to set up. Okay? Where you are isn't one of them. Is this a sidewalk? You're You're standing on a sidewalk, that's correct. Just a public sidewalk? Technically, yes. But we do have We do have areas where media is where media is allowed to set up. It says visitor pedestrian entrance. Right. Are you entering the facility? Not with the camera, I don't believe. If possible, yes. >> to secure the camera and go in the building, that's fine. >> Well, I go into jails all the time with a camera if there's a public lobby there. We have a public lobby. Then I'm Then I'm allowed to go in there. >> I didn't say you weren't. Well, with my camera, usually. If not, if there's >> the lobby, not the jail itself. That's correct. But what I'm trying to do right now is find out who you work for, why you're here. I'm an independent journalist. I work for myself. >> Okay. Well, we have areas where media is allowed to set up. Okay. We're allowed anywhere Yeah, we're allowed anywhere that the general public is allowed. So, I We're not setting up anything. We don't We don't like being told where to set up. No. I'm not I'm not I'm not going I'm not approaching you in that manner. I'm trying to identify why you're here. You're You're walking in You're walking You can ask the conducting legal activities on public roads. With a camera in in this vicinity, yes, we do. >> I didn't say that. Then? I just said that if you're with media, that there's an area where you can set up. As the debate over the law and the right to film in public continued, the atmosphere began to shift when a higher ranking officer arrived at the scene. What seemed like a tense situation suddenly started to calm down. But even though the encounter ended quickly, the story didn't end there. The other two deputies asked if they can help me, and I I told them yes, you can allow me to film my video without bothering me. Will you do the same thing, sergeant? Sergeant? Sergeant. I don't have a problem with that. Right on. Thank you. Just finish. Okay, guys. You don't need something else, captain? Uh I'm good. All right. You can just finish, sergeant. Yeah, we don't need any help today. We'll leave it at that, and I appreciate your cooperation. Thank Thank you. We didn't cooperate though. We didn't cooperate. They were trying to trying to stop me from identifying people like it's 1930s Germany. That's That's not what I did. That's what it is. We the people know why we're here. I'm behind the wall. Is that legal, Tim? I don't know. Looks illegal. Special privileges. He has dash cams here. Yeah. So, first off, city Yeah, maybe. When the officers finally left the scene, the atmosphere outside the detention facility gradually returned to calm. The cameraman continued recording what was happening around him, a reminder that simply exercising the right to film in public can sometimes lead to unexpectedly tense situations. Citizens may file a lawsuit against police under Section 1983 if their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights could face financial liability and may also be subject to discipline or termination. Up next, as soon as the camera started recording outside a state correctional facility, a staff member noticed the filming almost immediately. Within minutes, that attention triggered a chain of reactions that quickly made the area tense. All right. Very correctional institution. So, I'm sure they the local county probably showing up. Gentlemen, you all need to stand on the other side of the highway. You're on state property. You need to stand on that side of the highway. There goes the backwards driver's shame. >> [snorts] >> All right, sir. Get off this property. Good. We need you guys to be off state property. And you can't be on the road. All right, I've got a patrol car coming out. Gentlemen, we need you to be off the property, all This isn't your property. That's fine. This is what's called the right-of-way. We've got a patrol car coming through. Yeah, they'll tell you. Thank you. As the conversation with staff outside the detention facility continued, the atmosphere began to shift when a patrol car appeared from inside the compound. The presence of police immediately made the situation more tense. Moments later, the officer stepped out of the vehicle and approached. Whatever we want. No. They did. Nope. I don't give my name unless I'm suspected of a crime. Well, I'm looking into a trespass. So, do you have a law for us to be out here with you? I do, yeah. Yeah, we got called out here about y'all. All right, that's being on the right-of-way. Yeah, we got to get the local county sheriff's office. You got your name? Yeah, we're on the right-of-way. We're not trespassing. Yes, sir. Well, I've got to look into it. What's your last name, sir? I don't Again, I don't give my name. Again, I'm investigating a crime. We've got law enforcement to be out here. A trespassing warning wouldn't be a crime. >> have to help you in your investigation. A trespassing warning is a civil matter. Only if I they've asked and I've refused to leave. >> Well, I've got to make sure y'all aren't on trespass. We're not. And I can ask for identification. You can ask. Yeah. Can you get a supervisor here, please? What's going on? How you doing, man? Good. As the officer began asking questions and requesting personal information, the exchange quickly became tense. However, instead of ending there, the conversation turned into a debate about the right to use the roadside right-of-way and how the law applies in this situation. Just a quick question, gentlemen. They don't teach you gentlemen here about public easements, right-of-ways on the sides of roads. You guys don't know anything about that here in South Carolina? Well, you need to talk to them about it. We worry about the prison. They'll handle your business from here. Yeah. No, you're fine. You're fine. I wonder where the citizens are supposed to walk here if this is state property. I guess on the road, huh? Sir, say that again? Where do citizens walk? In the road? Or do they walk right here on what's called a right-of-way? No. You're not walking. You're standing. That doesn't matter. Is this a right-of-way? Is this for public access, public use? Well, this is state property for our prison. Everything's state property within the state. Isn't the Isn't this road state property? Yes. Okay. So, everything's state property, right? This is state property. This is state property. This is state property, right? Okay. When did they stop teaching public easements and right-of-ways in school? Sir? When did they stop teaching this stuff in school? How can so many people not know? There's not a sidewalk, so where are you supposed to walk? I guess they think we walk in the road. But we have to continuously be walking. Like on a sidewalk, you can't stop. Like a bus stop, you got to continuously be walking in place. I don't know. Are you being detained? I'm getting you a person supervisor. We've got one coming. Okay. Thank you, sir. I wonder if the prison put in these telephone poles and the fire hydrants, too. And the And the gas lines. This must I didn't know the the state prison system did gas. They're the gas company, too? This is incredible. Learn something new every day. As the debate over the right to use the roadside continued, the atmosphere at the scene gradually shifted from tension to a prolonged exchange between both sides. But when more personnel began to arrive, the situation started to take a different turn. And what happened next would ultimately determine the outcome of the confrontation. Actually, you guys got both here? Yes, sir. Good deal. Oh, you can't >> Y'all won't give them up. You can't They don't do public record requests here? Can't get body cam. I just got rejected for one when I was covering this bomb threat over at the airport Uh-huh. a couple weeks ago. Yeah. And a Greenville PD put his hands on me. No body cam, huh? Yeah. It's a good thing we record. >> rejected for that. Well, that's why we record. >> I was, but I tried. Yeah. That's the same way in Alabama. You can't get none. That's something we got to get changed. I mean Let enough people know that there's a problem, that there's an issue, and then it'll get resolved. Right now, people don't think there's an issue. So, we got to show them the issue. No, we're not allowed here. This guy's not going to hit me, is he? You're a sovereign citizen. No. What is that? Hey, guys. Hello. Oh, no. Not those guys. We're constitutionalists. We believe in the Constitution. We believe everybody's under the same law. You can't be sovereign and a citizen at the same time. Yeah, that's an oxymoron. That's what they call themselves. I don't know what they're doing. That's just what they want to do. Yeah, I know the guys you're talking about. They're I don't consent. Yada yada yada. We just get out and exercise our rights. That's right. This This under the first amendment. Right to free press. The only job that's protected. The cameraman shared his experience of trying to obtain body cam footage but being unsuccessful, explaining why he always records interactions like this himself. However, as the conversation continued, the officers who had been called to the scene finally began to provide clearer answers. Activism News Network. You on cable or is it like internet? Roku and Fire Stick and and that kind of stuff. So yeah, I'm I'm well aware where I am and the laws. You doing a story on the prison or something? Yeah, we're gathering content on a story for the prison, that's right. Gathering video footage, man. That's all. Kind of cold to be doing this today. Yes. Hey, like the mailman, we got to go, we got to go. Yes. See, I didn't know. So I guess they they would like to speak with us, so Y'all can call 252715210, option eight. >> Oh, just as long as it's been resolved here, they know that we're allowed to be here. >> stand on the road, absolutely. Thank you, ma'am. You guys have >> on their properties when they have problems. Right, this isn't their property. That's why I said that. Okay. I was saying that we were on their property. Yeah. As long as you stay on the road, we don't care. Okay. Thank you, guys. Have a good day. Excuse me, ma'am. Could I please state your name and badge number? Could you state it, please? I can't read. >> it? Hey, be professional like the other officers, deputies were. >> You can read my name tag. What if I can't? >> read. I can't read. Okay. Always got to be the woman, huh? D3635023. I'll file a complaint on her. Where's your guys' station at? Where can I go file a complaint on her? The Sheriff's Office is the Law Enforcement Center of Downtown Mobile at 4 Government Street. Okay, that's where I can file a complaint on her? Yep. Thank you. When the officers finally provided a clear answer, the situation at the scene gradually calmed down. After a series of arguments over the right to use the roadside area and the authority of each side, the encounter ended without any arrests being made. Citizens need to understand [music] their rights and law enforcement must carry out their duties with transparency, fairness, and accountability. Hey, everyone. What do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. [music] Thank you so much. >> [music]