you're about 30 seconds away from getting tossed out of here you understand really yeah why cuz I'm here with a camera when you start detaining people that's when you have to have 100% proof that you are suspected of a crime we have to have Reasonable Suspicion I'm just going on 10 or 12 years of law enforcement experience that's all doing all right yeah you doing all right you might Tak your hand out your pocket for me right there you have any weapons on you or anything like that weapons I'm not a cop you're not a cop no no okay do you have anything in your pockets I need to know about some might being detained now then you're being detained for just so I can verify the statute okay so you suspect me of a crime request okay I don't need your assistance you're dismissed get out of here both you guys get out of here then James Madison a former police officer turned First Amendment Advocate fearlessly exposes law enforcement ignorance as seen in his encounter with officers who wrongly challenged his filming outside of Florida Police Department the First Amendment of the US Constitution States Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press guaranteeing citizens the right to record public officials in public spaces in this video an officer claims filming the back part parking lot is illegal but Madison quickly corrects him asserting his constitutional right to document anything in plain view with years of law enforcement experience he dismantles their baseless accusations proving their lack of legal knowledge and leaving them scrambling for excuses that's exactly what they are what's up man how's it going what's up you doing all right yeah you doing all right you mind taking your hand out your pocket for me right there you weapons on you or anything like that weapons I'm not a cop you're not a cop no oh okay do you have anything in your pockets I need to know about you got anything in your bars on yeah I do what you got I got everything what what's going on you know this guy I just nor he has a weapon in his hand and his pocket or anything like that that's kind of you guys do that for officer safety don't you he is police officer Oh I thought you said you don't work here you said didn't work here no I'll play it back and record it so are you going to go take my scooter I take a picture of it are you going to all right yeah what's your name what's your name I don't get my name you don't give your name what's your policy then I bet you 20 bucks you guys are clear credited no you're not oh but you don't have policy it says when someone asked for your name as a uh as a public servant you don't give it is this a motorized vehicle no it's actually house bille 435 which classifies as a bicycle so get back in your car and read the statue book and learn something it's not motorized it's Miz for sure but House Bill 435 classifies as a bicycle so learn you something so what's your name than what's your name hey when you guys got a supervisor or a sergeant on duty is that you you you see Sergeant oh cool I was just coming down here doing a tour with ding-dong here and what's his name is it dingdong or do I do something do I reference him to something else well you conr him I asked him he won't give it to me so you're a sergeant you know PA go ahead you can do a record request I do a records request for some guy that has a hat on that originally told me that he doesn't work here I don't know he just said that he I got it on camera here day no I'm not going to have a good day we're not done so K WV w30 no I just letting you know that's just one of the concerns yeah but it's it's like I said it's in same in public you can get those information redacted and so on and so forth so yeah I'm going to head out this way if you haven't if you want to check it out you can I'll be heading down that way yeah I'm going to I'm going to check that statue while I verify the statute just hang out with me for a moment so am I being detained now then you're being detained for just so I can verify the statute okay so you suspect me of a crime I I suspect that I'm pretty sure there's a statute governing the over the police department so right now yes I do suspect you of a crime if there's no crime then you'll be released have your supervisor come down here as well yeah absolutely no problem before you you fully go into this detention that I'm being detained for no problem when officers detain Madison to verify a statute about his motorized scooter he turns the tables exploiting their shaky grasp of detention laws subsequently the officers tried to detain him for no reason Madison armed with a decade of policing experience pointing out that suspicion alone isn't a crime the officers Mumble citing 10 or 12 years of experience instead of a specific statute and Madison's razor sharp rebuttals expose their legal incompetence maybe a Savon or something but it's physically impossible for me to know every single law that's been written that but you got to have confidence when you you take someone's rights away right to to stop them you got absolutely and I I have confidence that you know there's regulation concerning you know privacy and the police department you know and it's simply just information collecting you know I want we want to make sure that for the safety of our officer especially in so information collecting not a suspection of a crime I'm just trying to figure it out suspicion of a if there's a crime there I don't know I don't know where your drone's at yet so I can't verify because you won't give me any of your information you won't tell me who you are you won't tell me where your drones at so right now there's a lot of things that I'm suspicious of but I want I want to find that out now if we can you know put the supervisors on the way out but you don't have any any type of like crime you if you have YouTube there's there's a good one I think it's with a Florida Highway Patrol very similar situation like this and I'm not doing this for that that's not reason why I'm out here but man I don't know what the deal was but uh we have you know we have people hanging outside of a police department with the with the threats that we get against law enforcement but is that a is that a crime that I'm doing it's a suspicion of it you're suspicious person out in front of a police what crime is is there a statute like 78403 for suspicion no is it loing and prowling if it was then you'd have to Read Me My Rights before you start talking to me right I'm not asking you any question no yeah you were where's my drone do I have a pilot license I have saying I don't know any of those things yeah okay but since since I told you that I wanted to do some research on on what the statute was I me just for you know if nothing else both of us to have the 100% up-to-date information on but that that's why I have to stay here and be detained to because you don't know now now it's you you want to talk to supervisor so they're on their way up no I mean I don't need to stay and talk to them I want to collect information on suspicious incident out in front of a police department but a suspicious incident not a crime that's the problem but it's something that law enforcement is in you know that's our job is to investigate things and find out if there's a crime but when you start detaining people that's when you have to have 100% proof that you are suspected of a crime we have to have Reasonable Suspicion I'm just going on 10 or 12 years of law enforcement experience that's all okay I I appreciate your service no it's I'm done with service it's okay but that's what that's what I'm at right now and I um you know but we we have to have Reasonable Suspicion which I think that you know recite you do a reasonable ground for suspicion supported by circumstance is sufficiently strong to warn a cautious person that's like the problem CA remember that in rookie School a reasonable ground for suspicion supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to warn a cautious person that he or she is guilty of the crime that he is accused of that's Pro that's the problem cause surveillance of a police is not a CRI that's not against law can I help you I don't answer any questions sorry sir okay then can you please be escorted off property is this public space here okay look I know what you're trying to do I TR I know the videos online everything else I get that okay but you're actually on jail property correct okay all right you're actually on jail property so the reason why I'm being here is I'm coming in to get a complaint form for an officer and was trying to do that I'm the one you need to talk to up I just need a complaint for him okay the office is not open right now so if you actually want to make a complaint you're going to have to speak to me okay because the only way you can get in a complaint form is actually coming to speak with our AI the IIA or ai ai ai all right so that's good so this walking through here is not a public sidewalk where I can just walk on here and do that and a jail is not a public facility under George's code Smith V coming I can't come here and check what's going on with the citizens or the employees again I understand where you're so if you know Sergeant Brown if you know that why are you telling me that I have to leave the property okay I'm not a telling you you have to leave the property right now you're on the jail property it's a state property yes and it's public property okay also public property I understand that okay but what you have to public funded okay all right cuz taxes paid for it I understand that okay but right here under the sally port and everything else it's secur facility perfect no one's been under the sallyport don't stretch it okay dude not a dude I'm a citizen I called you by your name Sergeant Brown okay but like I explained to you okay right now the shift change we got officers walking in and out okay got patrol cars out here okay if you want to that is a public sidewalk over there okay okay this is not a public sidewalk you all these this whole area is public okay I understand what you're trying to she asked me she approached I'm asking you nicely don't interrupt me Sergeant I was going to say don't interrupt me no you don't interrupt me I'm going to show you what I'm doing Sergeant Brown's attempt to eject Madison from jail property crumbles under the former cops Mastery of public access laws Florida statute 81 0.09 clarifies that trespassing only applies to private property or restricted areas with clear signage not public spaces like sidewalks near government buildings Madison calmly explained he's on a public walkway there to request a complaint form and cites case law like Smith B's Cummings to affirm his right to be there the Sergeant's flustered interruptions and threats of criminal charges fall flat as Madison's expertise reveals the officer's ignorance of basic property distinctions I was over here I was just talking no I'm I'm going to tell you what you're going to do I was talking about the the tag readers okay do you have a do you have a uh do you have a patrol liutenant excuse me a lieutenant on D just year you're the supervisor for the whole night tonight yes sir okay that's great this area is public I already called one of the council members the Commissioners and asked about it this area right here this walking through here is 100% public like you said under the sally port here I was talking about the tag readers and also about the reviews that you guys have online and you you're basically telling me that those reviews are accurate be your behavior here I'm not doing anything wrong walking through here and checking to see what going on I'm not sticking this camera over here I was looking at those tag readers on there talking about the cost of them and you're telling me you know exactly what I'm doing but you're doing it this is worth County uh Sheriff's Office guys so what is it that I'm doing doing I'm asking you to stay away from the jail I didn't go to the jail this is you're you're right here in the sally port this right here I didn't block the sally port I'm not blocking it okay this whole area right here is a public section that you can walk up and down on over and over again if you want to and and which council members you talking I'm not going to answer any question I don't want to throw anybody in the bus like that answer any questions but I have to answer question okay so so that's that's kind of wrong no we're AFF of the fifth man right cuz everything you're doing here could potentially be leading you up to a criminal charge in reference to a criminal matter but you can ask questions this is tier one contact okay so if there's no criminal matter then I don't have to answer any questions I don't want to you don't and you don't have to stand here either you can just walk away you're you're wanting to stand here you came to me she called you over here and that's the way it goes I don't want to have this conversation I was just minding my own business looking at the cat under the truck over here looked at the white SUV with a dog over it see do you understand where that kind of looks suspicious to us when you're looking underneath vehicles and around Patrol vehicles and that kind I wasn't looking under a vehicle I was looking at a cat you just said you were looking at a cat under the vehicle it's not a patrol vehicle it's just a regular old vehicle right there how you know that's not a patrol vehicle I'm just guessing by this by the tag on it and buy all that like that be an undercover vehicle well then that's good if it's an undercover vehicle but how do you know it's not I don't need to know if it's not it's irrelevant to me coming over here and looking at it if I want to check the tires on each one of your cars just to make sure you guys are in compliance with the Georgia Code I can come in here and do that if I want to they're in public they're in plain view it's simple as that oh okay what you doing hey what are you doing sitting in my car doing reports sweet all right why are you taking pictures of everything why are they taking pictures of everything because this is their property and this is my property but you're on their property how you doing Trooper Moore how are you doing can I get your license no how come cuz I have not committed any crime in the state of South Carolina okay but you're on their property right now yes I sure am I haven't crossed anything that says no trespassing okay but why are you on their property right now do I should I go get a detention officer yeah if you want to okay I'll be right back Trooper Moore Trooper Moore is about to violate some rights here it looks like nobody's violating your rights well come here and talk to me about it I'll tell you how you're about to violate them you're on their property yes it's a public property Trooper got it hi are you looking to speak to someone yeah Officer Dick oh Officer Dick yeah does he know you're here I left a message up front yeah okay fantastic I can actually send him a message yeah she did in the front so I don't want to waste it twice there so you got called here apparently right did say that again you got called over here for me no I just saw you walking around so I came in you saw me walking around from the bushes and and there's another guy walking around over the yeah I got to walk to my car oh really yeah oh nice then she made contact with a trooper over there that went to cry and whine about me filming is that what it was I don't know anything about that I just walked out and someone said you were out here filming so so you walked out and someone said they were comeing out here filming or you just saw me walking around see this is how that's awesome H Liv you're officer Flannery yes sir very cool I like meeting yeah you have some reddish hair like meeting a fellow Ginger here but uh yeah we're Officer Dick did a you know an admirable thing give me a second how's it going off more get back in the car and do your work get back in your car and do your work and leave me alone your ass back in there I don't like people like that so so Officer Dick basically you know did some tweaking of some arms on a lady that was out on the beach wearing a thong and stuff like that probably made some major news on here so I wanted to do an interview with him and see if he would so okay yeah okay so you've already called for him yeah I've called for him so you're just waiting for him I'm just waiting for him so yeah so Trooper Mo over here she wanted to ultimately just try to violate some rights by me filming and doing that she's like you're on their property uh whose property is this well no trespassing right here all right authorized Personnel but I'm saying like here I didn't go back there I'm pretty smart with the law and making sure I don't viol anything but all this in here this little area where you can come and walk like a little Park that set up a fountain um but anyway that was that 361 oh look at this we found ourselves a violation I don't know if you guys can see that or not right there but they bust our chops about um the tent below the as1 line which is that one right there and I think that one's down below it and as well this one's down below it too right there look at that good I think so you good yeah these are your cars my car is it I was going to see if you had a ticket book I want to see if I can write you a citation for your tent it's a sure uh in Florida the Florida Statutes here indicate that uh anything below that as1 line is a violation you got it well below there so I don't know if you knew that or not okay yeah can bar you tiet book you cannot no in a brilliant twist Madison spots an officer vehicle with illegally tinted windows and ask to borrow a ticket book to site the cop himself Florida statute 3162 952 mandates that window tint must not fall below the as1 line a rule these officers blatantly violate with a smirk he grills them on their double standards enforcing laws on citizens while flouting them personally the officers reflect refusing to engage but Madison's pointed call out backed by his former badge carrying Authority leaves them humiliated and their hypocrisy laid bare oh really please hey Sergeant I was going to see if I can borrow your citation book no I'm good is this is this your car it is my car I was going to say same thing here we've got uh got a quick violation of the tent law to under the as1 line right there so I don't know if um if either I can borrow it or if you can issue him one what's that I said I don't know if I can borrow your ticket book or if you can issue him one too no no you can't borrow mine no dang so that's what you guys do you just have it where you you can have that but we can't right citizens can't say again yeah looked that thank you I appreciate it hey how's it going are you stopping me yeah oh what for well you're filming us and you're driving on their property no I just I was in the call theack I didn't go anywhere in their property okay what's going on bud no I was just taking a tour of the place here that's pretty good so anyway um filming is illegal well if you're filming our back parking lot that's illegal and following our dispatchers around yeah that's following your dispatchers around that's what it looks like from where we were oh wow so hey how's it going good Sergeant how you doing this guy says that I was following your dispatchers around yeah the dispatcher actually just stopped us over there okay so whatever you were doing in the area kind of felt maor feel uncomfortable is you suspect me any crimes well this right here Martin yes's that this road is this a roadway is that right do you know what that company does yeah I sure do what do they do what do they do you just said yeah sure do yeah I sure do what do they do I mean do you know what they do yes what do they do they build ballistic missiles that's what I thought okay okay here's the police department going around here I mean let me be honest are are you trolling us no I was just doing a I told her she asked me do I need any help and then she said do you need do you need any help I said no I'm just doing a tour okay where are you from I'm from Florida okay yeah wherever Florida are we going to have the Sovereign citizen talk no don't go there that's stupid to go there you guys are the only on no you guys are the only ones that are sovereign citizens you have sovereign immunity throughout Florida he said I was on the property over here but video shows that I I just made a loop around the CLD act here we have a specific mandate under the law we don't have sovereign immunity we can't go around committing crimes no you can't but as long as you don't do a tour or something like that you can but um you said I'm detained right I'm sto civil stuff yeah yeah I just saying that's that's pretty much what it is no I officers can commit crimes and they can get arrested and all stuff so we don't have immunity from that no no you don't you you do when you have when you're basically you know acting within the color law be made mistake but you said I'm detained I'm stopped yeah okay I don't know what I'm sto until we can figure out why you're back here okay 90111 that's a Florida statute yeah I'm all all right let this officer know cuz I haven't committed any crimes I'm just out here she asked my need help I told her I'm giving a tour if that's suspicious you're giving a tour to whom you sir narrating I'm narrating on my video are youtubing no I'm just narrating on my video live no you're not going to make me Facebook famous you want to be Facebook famous sure why not the other reason people made me what's your name Sergeant Sergeant wearings Sergeant wearings what's your name sir amilio Rosa okay all right Amelio Rosa just regular officer yeah okay cool yeah if she was nervous when I said to her politely I said no I'm just taking a tour then I guess that's it so see you have your your wonderful red light and you have your other light in the front sure you're not committ any traffic contractions while you're traveling on this road that's correct and I'm not a sovereign citizen I don't appreciate that right there that's very derogatory I asked you if you were going to have Sovereign citizen talk and then you said no no there's no sere legitimate question just if if you suspect me of a crime then that's great um but like I said I don't go on their properties over there and I think in the video I was talking about ballistic missiles themselves a really cool placees space board's usually pretty nice so um you're free to go thank you I'll hang out if I'm free to go I'm free to stay I just I leave last you're not free to go you're not free to stay you're sitting here in the roadway don't be blocking all I will come over here there we go we're on the side of the road aren't we R property that's past that sign this right here is actually RightWay this is RightWay from the center of the road to what is it 25 ft out to the edge if if it's government owned then I can tell you to go not if I don't commit any crimes better check that case law I don't see any sidewalks I know there's no sidewalks all right I think I might know the law better than you I'm I'm guessing I do I I don't know about that what law school did you go to are you parking we parking in no I'm standing this roadway shoulder or CAC not parking this is standing that's not the sign remember there's three things parking standing and stopping yeah you're they're they're all kind of the same thing all right where do you want me to go anywhere but here you're welcome you're free to go okay thank you I appreciate it what's your name what is your name yours over here yes my name yours St n stepanie nine KN KN okay cool very cool you don't like cameras cameras all day long I don't like you don't like them you just want to be the bully today I just want to come in here and get a public records request on one of those vehicles and that's where it is I don't want to go over there cuz I don't like law enforcement like you and youfor all over this place so why are you here because the people that work on the cars are not sworn people that have guns that want to shoot you and that's what you want to do I appreciate you telling me what I want to do without knowing what I want to do I know what you want to do clearly look at it just by your intent because I want to come down here and get something on one of those vehicles from this place over here just a vehicle log please feel free to go make a request I don't want to those guys have guns just like you do people sitting at that front desk don't carry guns they might they don't they don't I would presume there's probably vide you taken in there prior to this so that you obviously know that I didn't go in there so don't don't you do the same that you're accusing me of doing to you telling me that I'm doing something that I haven't done person to do that for do what give someone something you don't know yeah that's what you guys do all the time [Applause] Smiley I don't know the number you guys can get it if you want it but not my problem I just want to go over there and get a public re request there's no signs indicating that this place is more reest okay I don't need your assistance you're dismissed get out of here both you guys get out of here then I can stand here you said this is fine with you this my property I can stand this ain't your property you got the wrong idea there buddy here you don't yeah you work here who pays for this property property that I assist with thank you you do not own this property the only people that own this property well if you live in this County you might own some of this property State own this property State doesn't own this property the state doesn't own this property the city the the citizens own this property that's what they pay taxes for for people like you this is a first minute protected activity this is an open area not marked off as this restricted area but by duress I have to abide by you because if I do it any further you're going to you're going to get me trespassed from a public place there's already a court case about that I haven't committed a crime learn your laws man I need you got your cool earpiece and your badge hanging down there by the way if you're running a foot pursuit that thing will probably chip your teeth there you go lock it up you're not as cool as you look man it's Friday I know it's casual Friday with jeans I just want to come down here get a public records requ on one of these vehicles and that's it make any public I don't want to go there this is where you you know what floor statues 119 are do you even know what they are no you don't you might know like 84302 781 whatever those are for trespass and Battery but you don't know the Florida statues for for public records apparently and that's sad so you're prohibiting a first protect Activity one second a Florida State Statute you from making a you're prohibiting me from filming in a public area that is not marked off in an area here that is absolutely not marked off saying it's non-restricted like it says over there obviously the guys at the jail have more sense than you guys do that's all I can see do a good thing and sit out there and watch the stop sign when people are pulling out here like enjoy filming six six or seven people you enjoy getting back in your car and getting an AC don't be stupid and don't teach this guy stupid stuff like you just taught him are you with the media yes you got some credentials uh does the State issue credentials with what channel what you live I just go ahead do about your business sir what's that just do your press here are you with the media sir yes sir what media I just don't answer any questions sorry another whack job anyway I'm a whack job Chief Capri you are I'm asking you what media you are you're not telling what you are I don't know who you are does the media do they issue State credentials here let me just do your thing sir look at this sir look at this I'm going to ask you to leave in about 30 seconds you are that's a credential yes yes I'm going to ask you a question you can be respectful and give me an answer I did okay I said I'm with the media I don't want to answer any other questions from you called me a wack job I mean you are a wack job the way you're acting right now you're not tell me who you are that's that's not normal that's not normal human interaction she just do your do your briefing I'm just I'm not going to ask you any questions you're about 30 seconds away from getting tossed out of here you understand really yeah why cuz I'm here with a camera James Madison's encounters showcase a former cop's triumph over ill-informed officers blending legal Savvy with Fearless accountability his videos not only entertain but educate empowering viewers to know their rights against overreach in the end these dumb cops don't just get owned they get a master class in the law they swore to uphold like And subscribe for more police cam stories watch the next recommended video click to watch now