What kind of [ __ ] is that, man? How many times you guys going to detain me until you figure out that it's a taser that I carry, man? >> Okay, do you have an ID? >> For what? >> We need to verify you're not feloniously carrying a taser. >> Recording some stuff? >> Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh I document, that's what I do. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's what I do for work and stuff, so. >> What work do you [music] do? >> Uh photography. >> When the law is twisted by ego and suspicion, the consequences may not come immediately, but they always come back, complete and unforgiving. >> Do you have an ID? >> I have it here. That's a crime, man. >> Do you have an ID? >> What crime have I committed? >> have an ID? >> As an adult, you're supposed to identify >> I do have an ID, but I don't have to give it up unless I committed a crime. >> No, that's not true, either. >> It only takes one abuse of power to shatter [music] trust. And in these stories, the wrongdoing itself exposes the price that must be paid. All because of a camera, an ordinary citizen suddenly became a suspect. No clear accusation, no law cited, yet the tension had already begun. >> Can I help you with something? What? Don't point the camera at me. Don't point the camera at me. Don't point the camera over here, man. Do you have any reason for it? All right. Do you know why I'm taking it? What? Huh? >> Can I help you? What? So, what's wrong with that? I can't take a picture or something now? No, it's for my purpose. Thanks. Thanks for being concerned. Are you guys concerned citizens or Oh. What does that have to do with me? What does pictures have to do with the solid container? So, you're profiling me. Well, my strangeness is not your concern. I could be strange all [music] I want as long as It's the law, man. >> From a few questions that seemed harmless, no posted restrictions, no crime, no clear explanation, yet suspicion began to take hold. Minutes later, that suspicion turned into action. The tone shifted. Civil rights were put on the scale, and this time it was no longer a question. It was a demand. >> 20 oz charge? What? What gun? What do you got on your hip? >> I don't have a gun. Come on, dude. Don't act like a fool, sergeant. >> Hey, relax. No, I couldn't. >> You guys are ridiculous, man. How many times you guys going to detain me until you figure out that it's a taser that I carry? For what? >> Could you can you're not a felon carrying a >> No, no, no, no, no. I haven't committed a crime. >> You >> have an ID? >> I haven't committed a crime, man. >> Do you have an ID? >> What crime have I committed? >> Do you have an ID? As an adult you're supposed to have an ID. >> I do have an ID, but I don't have to give it up unless I committed a crime. >> No, that's not true, either. >> This is a non-stopping ID state. >> I'm talking to him. >> This is a non-stopping ID state. >> Uh yeah, you still you have to give me your ID. Plus it doesn't say your ID is the law. >> Uh if I've broken the law, then tell me what law I've broken. >> who you are, yes, you do. >> What law have I broken for you to verify who I am? I have to break the law [music] before you detain me and tell what? >> You just you just uh J-walking. >> Oh, so now you're making up No, now you're making [ __ ] up. Now you're making [ __ ] up. >> You're not J-walking. >> Now you're making [ __ ] up, man. >> J-walking. >> Man, you're ridiculous, dude. >> You did, didn't you? >> You guys are ridiculous. >> You want to take this up? >> Is this how you treat people, man? >> You did the J-walking to get his ID. >> What an idiot. >> This is why you get detained for being a piece >> What an idiot. He said to get my ID. He didn't say to do anything else. He didn't say to Don't twist my arm. I got a broken arm, man. >> I'm sorry. >> Don't twist my arm. Film my bro. Film him. >> That's the way you get all your videos. You are the ridiculous bro. >> Whatever. You got to be so stupid, man. >> Where's that ID? >> I don't know. You got my hands behind my back, you idiot. I don't know where it is. I got to I got to reach for it. >> Where is Is it in your front pocket? >> I don't know, dude. I It might be in the front, it might be in the pouch, it might be in the back. >> No clear accusation, no crime stated. Yet the demands kept coming. At this point, the issue was no longer what's happening, but who is really in control. And while no answer was given, action came first. This is the moment that made many wonder whether everything was still being done within the bounds of the law. >> [ __ ] idiot, man. What are you going to run me over for? I thought you were going to give me a ticket. >> We are. We have to make sure I don't know who you are, sir. >> Yeah, you guys are [ __ ] idiots, man. And you sergeant is a piece of [ __ ] too. >> You guys are pieces of [ __ ] This is not helping. >> I don't give a [ __ ] if you give me a ticket or not, man. You guys give me my ticket and I'll be on [music] my [ __ ] way. >> Excellent. Thank you. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> I appreciate the compliment. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. >> I'm not talking badly to you. >> Yeah, cuz you know better. Don't twist my arm, man. I told you I have a bad shoulder. Don't twist my arm. >> Don't spit in my face. That's really >> Don't twist my arm. >> I could be trying to kiss you. >> You want to kiss? >> I don't want to kiss. >> Come here, baby. Come here. >> I got you, sir. Come here. >> Thank you, though. >> You want to kiss? >> No, I appreciate the compliment, but I don't >> You want to kiss? >> Thank you, though. >> baby, though. I know you like that. You like licking that [ __ ] right? How about you lick my [ __ ] man? How about you lick my [ __ ] man? How about you lick my [ __ ] How about you lick my [ __ ] man? Make me feel better. Make me feel better. >> [music] >> Yeah, you guys are trash. Are you guys from Compton, too? Are you from Compton? Where are you from? >> You think we're Compton, sir? Is that what you >> Where are you Where are you from? >> We're from Carson Station, sir. >> Oh, the Carson Station. I knew it. Only pieces come out of Carson Station. A bunch of [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> Uh, you guys are [ __ ] ridiculous. You guys are toys, man, compared to the real cops. Cool. You guys are [ __ ] babies compared to real cops, man. You guys are disgraceful. Why are you [music] holding me for [ __ ] pedestrian in the roadway? I don't get it. Why do you have to hold me like this? Cuz I was in the roadway? >> The citizen was detained. The pressure steadily increased and questions about the limits of authority began to surface. What stands out most is this. Everything unfolded without a clear reason ever being given. Nearly half an hour of confrontation ended with a decision that made it clear the events leading up to it were far more than a simple misunderstanding. >> You guys proud of yourselves now? Proud? All right. I'm going to put this back in your car. Go for a run. Go for a >> You told us to get off of me, too. >> Let me call you then. >> Hey Jose. >> What? >> So >> Get out of my way so I can see what I'm doing here. >> I'm going to have you sign for a jaywalking >> Hell yeah, man. Here, here you go. >> I appreciate it. I'll give you your copy. >> Can I write >> [music] >> Sergeant Thunder just for a comment for the record? >> No, because it's >> Why not? >> We have it on the record on >> Oh, okay. All right. You're We're on the record. You're a [ __ ] >> Even your deputy says it, so >> Can I get a business card with everybody's name and badge number on there, man? >> I'll give you a card with everybody's name and >> Okay. I appreciate that, man. >> If you want, you can give me on camera and give me the name and the >> Uh camera can't see that my name and your badge is all [ __ ] up. >> Is it on? >> It's on, man. >> All right. Deputy Ramirez. Uh badge number 62943. >> No, your serial your ID number. >> ID number? 62943. >> How about your pin number? What's this ID number? >> It's also in your on your on your uh >> All right. Thank you, man. >> Okay. >> You're awesome, man. You're professional, dude. I like you. I like [music] this guy. >> Sorry, man. >> Can I get your name and badge number for the record? >> Sergeant Berg. >> 470638. >> Berg. >> How do you spell that? >> B E R G. >> B U S S Y? Got it. What's your uh ID number? >> Uh 12. >> Can you tell us your name one more time? >> Nope. >> See? You're a disgrace, man. This is how you treat the public, man? >> This is how you treat the public? What law did I break? >> What law did I break for you to treat me like this, Sergeant? Oh, and you told people I was walking across the street all day? This is how you If you get your kids out of the street at home and tell them you want to ticket for jaywalking when they're out there playing in the street? >> [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you, [ __ ] >> the [ __ ] up. You get the [ __ ] out of here, you [ __ ] Get that on film, you You're a disgrace, man. You're a disgrace to police across the nation, man. You should be in jail yourself for committing these [ __ ] crimes out here with the public. That's correct. You should be in jail. I can't wait to see [music] you locked up one day. [ __ ] you. Shut up. Shut up. Get back to work. Get back to work. Get your ass back to work. All of you. All of you back to work, now. Back to work. Back in your cars and get the [ __ ] out of here. Come on. Come on, let's go. It's over, man. I got my citation. I got my citation. You're free to go. You're free to go. Kick rocks. Hey. >> Everything concluded with what seemed like a minor decision. But that moment made it impossible to dismiss everything that came before it. Because what happened cannot be undone. A citizen may file a lawsuit against police under Section 1983 when their rights are violated. Officers who violate the law may be held financially liable and face discipline or termination. Up next, standing on a public sidewalk, holding a camera, doing nothing illegal, yet just minutes later, someone else's curiosity turned into suspicion, and everything began to take a very different turn. >> Huh? >> Can I help you with something? >> I'm just doing my investigation right now. I can't really get into it. Yeah. You work here? >> Uh yes. >> Okay. Yeah, yeah. How's your day going? Good, good. Simply uh just being polite like was. No problem with that, guys. Uh, he didn't ask too [music] many questions, which is good. Uh, we don't like when they ask a whole bunch of questions because we will do so in return. Uh, just standing here on a public sidewalk doing our investigation uh, on this location here. So, uh, we're going to stay tuned and stay put. See if they, uh, respect our rights or not to record out here on a public sidewalk, a traditional public forum. If you guys are watching the channel, please make sure you smash that subscribe button. All right, y'all. >> The hell are you doing? You, sir, what the hell are you doing? >> Huh? >> What are you doing along here? >> What are you doing along here? >> him. They're people who work here. We're going to call the cops on you. >> For what? >> Being suspicious around here. >> Well, you're suspicious coming out here. >> No, I'm doing it for the ladies. >> Oh, you're doing it for the ladies? >> Yeah. >> Are you like married to the ladies or something or >> No, they're customers and they're friends of mine. >> Oh, really? Nice, nice. >> And who the hell are you? >> I'm a just a guy, American citizen. How about you? >> I am policing you. I'll wait till the cops get here. >> For what? You called the cops? >> Because of your suspiciousness. >> My suspiciousness? Did you know suspicious is not a crime? >> I know, but >> So, why'd you call the cops? It's cold out here. It is cold, man. >> Colder yesterday. >> Yeah, cold all every day. >> An unexpected aggressive reaction followed, bringing vague accusations and a sense of being watched. From that moment, the situation took an unpredictable turn. And when police arrived, the atmosphere shifted immediately. Just seemingly harmless questions, but enough to test the limits of civil rights. >> on the good side of the bed this morning, [music] so If he could just go in there and educate them, that'll be uh, that'll be great. So. [music] >> Hello. >> Hey, how you doing? >> What's going on, man? >> Not too much. How you doing? >> I feel great. I'm Officer Help Me Police Department. >> Nice. Nice. >> What's your name? >> Huh? >> What's your name? >> I go by good citizen. I'm a good American. How you doing, sir? >> Good. >> Yeah. Nice to meet you. >> Uh how how do you like me to address you? >> Good citizen. Good American. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> What's going on today, good citizen? >> Not much. Just out here enjoying this beautiful day today. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um recording some stuff? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> you recording for? >> Uh I document. That's what I do. >> Okay. >> Yeah. That's what I do for work and stuff. So. >> What work do you do? >> Uh photography. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Documenting, vlogging, all that stuff. >> Who uh are you employed by anybody? >> No, I work for myself, man. Why would I be employed by somebody? Yeah. Yeah. No, you don't want to do that. That's boring. >> Got you. Um >> Create your own schedule in life, you know? You can get out when you want and do whatever you want. So. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. What are you recording today? >> Uh whatever I can see, man. I'm going to be looking around your town here. So. >> Okay. Where are you from? >> Uh I think that's a little personal. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's personal. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. >> Uh would you like to identify yourself in any other way? >> Uh >> Like with a state issued ID? >> Uh I'm an African American. Uh about 5'10. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. 200 and and big. >> I mean like the uh typical way that like a normal person would do that. >> What would it What would that be? >> Uh by providing some kind of government issued ID. >> think that would be what a normal person would do. I think that's what a what a scared person would do, you know? Cuz they don't know about their rights, man. >> No, I'm not telling you you have to. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. >> Right. Uh but you can voluntarily >> Yeah. I don't think that's [music] normal. Volunteering. Just volunteering and stuff. So. Really? From here? Or >> Most interactions in my entire career. >> Uh have you only been here or have you been in other departments? >> I've not been to other I've worked in areas outside of >> Ah, okay. Okay, cool. Cool. >> The questions no longer stayed at the level of small talk. They began crossing into personal boundaries. There was no accusation, no detention, yet the pressure became increasingly clear. And the moment refusal was expressed, the conversation immediately took on a different tone. This is when people begin to realize the silence of the law does not always mean harmlessness. >> Yeah, so like how long you've been in the How long have you been an officer for? >> Uh number of years now. >> Nice. Nice. Do you like it or >> Yeah, I love it. >> Okay, good. Good. Good. >> My my one of my most favorite things I like to do is make sure that uh banks are well taken care of. >> Well, yeah, that's not really your job, man. >> No, it's our job. >> To make sure banks are taken care of. Like what do you mean by that though? >> Everybody within the businesses, people, things like that. in the city. That's my job. >> Oh, like making sure like Like making sure like what? I'm not really too familiar with your job, so I I don't I don't know, you know, what your job is. >> acting abnormal from the regular person that's on the sidewalk. >> What do you call abnormal? >> What you're doing now. >> Recording is abnormal? No, the heck it's not, man. No, it's not. How do you see videos? How do you see movies? >> Recording in this way, recording this stuff. >> Recording just recording on the sidewalk, man? >> Come on now. Go ahead. I understand it's legal. I understand it's >> It's not abnormal. You're recording. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah, I have to by law. >> Well, well, I have to. >> You don't have to by law. >> Wait, you don't have to do it by law. There's a lot of police departments that don't have body cameras. >> Not in the state of Illinois not until 2025. >> Yeah, so so it's not by law. It It'll be >> by law in 2025. >> Yeah, most likely be your company policy. >> You have a camera on your chest right now, isn't it? >> Yeah. For all departments everywhere in Illinois? >> Illinois, I believe that started in 2025. >> Okay, cool. Cool. Yeah, I just learned that then. That's pretty pretty neat. >> So uh what do you plan to do with the rest of your day? >> Documenting, man. >> you plan on doing in like the next 20 minutes? >> Documenting. >> Just are you like a YouTuber or what? >> Yeah, I do vlogging and all that, photography. I work for myself and whatnot, so yeah. Oh, you guys got a K9 in there. That's pretty cool. That's good. >> Did somebody drop you off here? >> Huh? >> Did someone drop you off here? >> That's a little personal, man. >> Yeah, I know. I'm asking a personal question. >> oh no, I don't like to answer personal questions. >> Okay. Did you drive yourself here? >> Man, did you drive here today or what? No, like other than that. >> I drove to here, yes. >> To like work. Did you drive to work in your personal vehicle? >> My Yeah, part of my job, yeah. >> Okay, what kind of vehicle do you have? >> Oh, that's a black Chevrolet Tahoe. >> No, no. >> No handcuffs, no commands, just a steady stream of questions, probing reactions bit by bit. But when the boundary was firmly held, the response that followed revealed something else. The situation moved into a new phase where rights and authority began to collide more openly. >> Oh, did they say that? >> Yeah, the bank said that they don't want you on their property. >> When did he say that? >> He told me in my ear. He has a radio. >> your ear. Oh, that's that's pretty fancy. >> That's like fancy technology. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool, cool. >> I found out by my radio. >> Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, cool. >> They just asked that you if you don't come on the property. >> Well, what if I wanted to bank with them? >> Well, if you wanted to bank with them, I mean that that may be that may be something that we can talk about. >> Ah, okay. Yeah, man, I'm just checking out places, man. >> I understand what you're doing. >> over here, over there. >> I understand what you're doing. >> They just asked They just found it a little I guess unsettling. >> Yeah. >> A camera in the window. >> Well, I answered I I wasn't in the window. I was like on the sidewalk here, but the person the first person that came out and I was being very professional with them. And the second guy came out and said, "What the hell are you doing?" So, I kind of, you know, escalated a little bit. >> Being a bank, I just think they were a little unsettled. >> Yeah, yeah, it's it's all right, man. >> otherwise have a fabulous >> You let them know that we have a right to record out and stuff. Okay, cool, Cool. Yeah. >> I just got cuz I specifically asked what was he was he on the property [music] or was he on the sidewalk or what was he doing? They said you were over by the window and just assumed >> Yeah. Yeah. >> you didn't come onto the property. >> Okay. Yeah, that's fine. No, I don't have any intent on going on their property, so >> I believe you. >> Yeah. Yeah. Appreciate you. Uh whatever one, man. I have actually a lot of platforms, so sometimes Yeah, I'm not I'm not on Tik Tok. >> All right. Well, you have a good day. >> Yeah. Yeah, you guys, too. Appreciate you. Huh? >> What's your YouTube channel? >> Oh, I can't give that out, man. I can't give it >> You give it out to everybody else. >> It might not go on YouTube, though. Yeah. Yeah, I don't post everything on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. >> All right, man. >> Yeah, appreciate you, man. Yeah. Have a good day. Yeah. All right, guys. Let's uh keep walking down. Actually, let's make sure he gets back in his squad car safely. Hey, El Paso. I love me some Mexican food, guys. Make sure he gets back in his vehicle safely. >> When all legal boundaries were upheld, the encounter ended without any charges. No one was arrested. No one was cited. Yet, what unfolded throughout this interaction spoke louder than any written report. A civilized society is not measured by the number of cameras or uniforms, but by how we treat one another when no wrongdoing has been proven. Hey, everyone. What do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]