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People were feeling uncomfortable that you were just filming >> and it said you were looking in some cars. Do >> you have an ID on you, bud? >> Huh? >> Do you have an ID on you? >> What's that? >> Uh, your identification, your name, and everything else? >> Oh, I don't carry around my name on it. >> When the police don't understand the law and cross the line, everything immediately turns into a serious incident. >> Let me ask you a question. You feel more comfortable with police in front of a dispensary or a guy on a sidewalk? So without that, I have to detain you until I find out who you are. >> Detain me? >> Yes, sir. >> For what? >> Because you're a suspicious subject. Because they pulled you in. >> As soon as they interfere with the right to record, everything instantly becomes evidence against them. With just a phone recording in a public area, the woman approaches and repeatedly confronts him, demanding an explanation for why he's filming. And today's story won't end with just a few simple questions. Oh boy. >> Can I ask what you're doing? >> What's up now? >> Can I ask what you're doing? >> Could you ask what I'm doing? >> Yes. >> Why? >> Do you not know what I'm doing? >> I can tell you have a camera and a recorder. I'm asking why. >> There you go. Well, you probably should have started with that. Well, let me ask you a question. Do you support the Constitution? >> I would like my question answered first. Well, do you support the Constitution? >> I would like my question answered first. >> All right. Well, with that kind of attitude now, you're going to get zero answers. >> Okay. Well, we >> take it easy. Have a good day. Okay. >> You are an interesting individual. >> Thank you. >> Apparently, I'm an interesting individual. Honestly, couldn't agree with her more myself. Come on, man. What's good? >> What's going on? >> I just asking like how long have you been doing this for? >> What do you mean? Like here today? >> Yeah. >> 12 minutes. >> Oh, really? Is it like I don't know. Like I see this a lot on TikTok. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I be seeing some crazy stuff. So >> I usually I usually run into a lot of craziness. Yeah. >> Yeah. They get irritated. Huh. They get real pissed off course. They don't even know that this is public. >> Nope. >> They just geting rage baited. It's so hilarious, dog. [laughter] I swear to God. >> Rage baited. Even though I'm trying to just hand out some free education. That's it, man. >> That's it. >> It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. Hey, go go go and look me up, man. Across all platforms. First Amendment Protection Agency. >> First Amendment. First Amendment Protection >> Protection Agency. Yep. >> Two completely different reactions from the public to a phone recording in a public place. It seemed like it would end with just a few exchanged words, but those very reactions became the reason things escalated into something far more serious when police arrived after a complaint call. >> He's doing it. So, he's doing that. >> I know that he has a Tik Tok channel. What's going on? >> Oh, nothing much. >> How can I help it? >> We just got a few calls saying it's people were feeling uncomfortable that you were just filming >> and it said you were looking in some cars. >> That's just call we got, man. >> Interesting. >> What's that? >> Said interesting. >> Oh, okay. >> I got your name and badge number. >> Yeah, it's Quailer 121. >> Sweet. Awesome. >> Yes, sir. Yep. >> Can I get the CAD number as well? >> What's that? >> Can I get the CAD number as well? >> Sure. CAD notes, whatever you want to call them around here. >> Sweet. Thanks. >> Just curious what you filming random the building, a person. >> All of it. >> All of it. >> All of it. >> Okay. Just a specific business for no reason. Just curious. >> All of it, man. >> All of it. >> All of it. >> Okay. I got you. Like I said, people are just feeling uncomfortable that you're just filming. They were wondering what you're doing. >> So, they call So, they call police with cameras to come and uh make them feel more comfortable or >> Well, or what? >> I guess so. I guess police make them feel comfortable. >> Interesting. >> Yeah, >> that's a new one for me. >> Is it? >> Is it? >> I got you. >> I don't know. What? Let me ask you a question. You feel more comfortable with police in front of a dispensary or a guy on a sidewalk? Oh, that makes you feel more comfortable? No, I didn't think so. So, >> you going to get that cabin number for me or here? >> In a minute. Just when I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. >> What's your name? >> You want just take your hands out of your pockets for me for citizen safety or >> There ain't nothing in my pockets, man. >> Thank you. >> So, you say you can >> Can I get your badge number as well? Name and badge number. >> Can you get your hand out of your pocket? >> I I just I I just couldn't hear you with the road noise. I'm just trying to get your name and badge number. >> Officer or badge 188. >> Sweet. Awesome. It's just just anything past that CAD number and that's it, man. >> Okay. Well, if you don't mind to remove your hand out of your pocket just for officer safety. >> Is that Is that going to be it here today, guys? Or >> what's that? >> Is that going to be it? >> Well, you requested it for us. I just request the same thing for you. Cool. >> Yeah. >> Well, is that it? You guys are dismissed. Take it easy now. >> All right. Have a good one. Even though there was no clear criminal wrongdoing, the encounter quickly turned into a control situation, questioning the purpose of the filming and demanding personal information. But what stood out was that once the auditor requested the CAD number and asked for the legal basis of the call, the officer's attitude began to shift. >> Here you go. >> I was going to give you that CAD. >> Sweet. I appreciate that. Thank you very Yeah, as long as you stay on the on the or the sidewalk. >> Just as long as nobody comes in and robs the place, I guess nobody will have to go under citizens arrest then, huh? >> Okay. I'm just saying like I said, the original call was that, you know, we we get a call that somebody's looking in windows, that's why we have to respond, right? Really? >> Uh just in case somebody cuz you know, we get people >> just in case somebody is using the public view doctrine that you guys use to go and scan, you know, license plates and go and look at license plates in cars and stuff like that. >> I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just letting you know you're good to do what you want here as long as you're on the sidewalk. >> Just as long as you're not going 5 miles an hour over the speed limit, you won't be speeding, my friend. All right, take it easy now. >> Have a good one. >> Oh, I can't wait to get on TikTok tonight. [laughter] >> Hey, take a little bit of lesson, my friend. >> You have a great day, bro. Hey, you as well, man. Take it easy. >> The Tik Tok guy. >> Something like that. >> All the time. >> Hell yeah, bro. Love to see it, man. >> Going home right now. >> Hell yeah, bro. Give him the people's bicep before you leave. Yes, sir. Norier as well, man. >> Subscribe. >> New fans, bro. >> Take it easy, man. >> Nice to meet you. There he goes. Just going around the back, guys. You heard it from Norier. He's telling you to subscribe. Don't let him down. Make sure you go subscribe. >> The police returned with the CAD number and confirmed the auditor wasn't breaking any laws as long as he stayed on the sidewalk. It seemed like everything would end there. But right after the officers left, another situation immediately unfolded, driven by members of the public who refused to accept being filmed even though the auditor was in a public place. >> You think it's more common, but it's not. >> What's going on? You don't let me ask. >> Well, let me ask you a question. Do you obviously it seems like you support the constitution. >> Oh, absolutely. >> All right. Well, what I do is I go around and I exercise the first amendment right to the freedom of press in public and I see if >> you're a um Oh. Oh. Oh, they have a whole name. Why can't I remember? >> A first amendment auditor. >> Auditor. Thank you. >> There you go. So, if if you want, you can go look me up. I'm pretty big across all platforms as First Amendment Protection Agency on everything. You'll find me on everything. But yes, I will do. You might see yourselves on the video, but you know, it's it's unfortunate that people, you know, go as crazy over, you know, as much as they do over a telephone in public. >> It's insane, man. But thank you guys for being levelheaded and normal. I appreciate it. >> Good luck. I hope everything works out. >> It already did. They already called the cops and nothing happened. >> Yeah, they they called the cops, you know, police officers with cameras to come here. >> It It makes no It makes no sense. It makes no sense, man. >> Stupidity is stupidity. As stupid is that stupid does, my friend. >> Take it easy. You, too. >> What are you taping? >> What's up? >> What are you taping? >> What am I taping? >> Yeah. >> Something something for social media. >> Huh? >> It's for social media. >> Okay. You know, you got to have permission from people, right? >> Where do you Where do you get that from? >> Um, it's kind of a law, dude. >> Yeah. How do you figure that? What law is that? >> Yeah, it really is. You need to look it up. Now you need to look it up cuz you have no idea what you're talking about. >> Look it up. >> Okay, you take it easy now, Karen. Okay, >> all right. I will have a good one. The entire incident shows that even a lawful act of recording in public can trigger extreme reactions and unnecessary trouble. Citizens may sue police under 42 USC section 1,983 when their rights are violated. Officers who break the law may be held liable for damages and face discipline or even termination. up next. Just standing on the sidewalk filming outside the bank, he was immediately questioned, not only about what he was doing, but also who he was and what organization he belonged to. >> Can I help you? >> Hey, how you doing? >> Hi, I'm good. Harry, >> how you doing? Good. >> Are you Who are you with? >> What do you mean? >> You're taking pictures of our >> Yeah. Yeah, I'm just out here today. >> What are >> you here? >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Awesome. Maybe you can ask uh answer my questions. Uh so long how long have you guys been here? >> We've been here Well, we've been three different banks. >> Okay. Okay. Cool. Cool. >> Um like do you say your money's secure at this location at all or? >> Yeah. Do you know who are you with? >> I can't really like I'm by myself today. I am with a company though. >> Okay. I need to call the city and talk to them then. >> Who? Who? >> The city of Jerseyville. >> Oh, they wouldn't know. They wouldn't know anything about this. Well, >> well, they they might they might know what I'm doing out here, but they don't know like exactly, you know, my purpose. So, >> Okay. >> Yeah. Um, so, uh, your location here, uh, you guys have like never been robbed or anything like that. Everything secure. >> Discuss that with you. >> Okay. Okay. I have a few more questions though if you like to answer them. >> Uh, you'll need to make an appointment. >> Make an appointment inside. Who do I >> Who do I make an appointment with? >> You can ask for Tammy. >> Tammy? >> Call the bank. >> Okay. She's like the manager or something. Okay. Yeah, I'll just be out here for a little bit longer. >> Okay. >> Yep. Just doing my investigation. Wow, guys. Uh yeah, we are just documenting. She said she was going to contact the city as if they know what I'm doing out here. But uh yeah, guys, we're just standing on a public sidewalk here just doing our investigation. So, >> the exchange wasn't tense yet, but it made one thing very clear. The moment a camera appears in a sensitive place, like a bank, suspicion follows almost immediately. And then a member of the public approaches with a more aggressive attitude. The language escalates and soon after police begin to arrive. >> How you doing? >> Why are you taking pictures of my car? >> Oh, this is your car right here. >> It doesn't matter which one's mine. Why are you taking pictures of >> Yeah, I'm just looking at it. It's a nice car. I can't hear you. >> You don't need to be taking pictures of our stuff. >> I can't really hear you. Sorry. >> That's okay. You can talk to the cops that are pulling up to talk to you right now. >> What' you say? You can talk to the cops right there. >> About what? What happened? >> You don't need to be around here taking pictures. >> Yeah, I'm just just documenting. Just exercising my rights today. >> No, >> you can talk to the officer. >> Why don't you come out and talk to me? Hey, >> sir. Officer Police Department. >> How you doing? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Talk to you in >> Yeah, sure. How you doing, sir? >> Obviously, you know what that we got a call for here? >> No. For what? >> What's that? >> What happened? I mean, apparently they're making contact with you. Correct. >> Yeah. I was hoping she would come out and talk to me. >> Okay. All right. Just to to a bank member a little suspicious with you here and a camera and video of everything. >> Yeah. I'm just trying to get some go in. I'll talk to them. >> Just take pictures of the outside. >> Yeah. If you would like to come to >> Can you come over here, please? Ma'am, I would love to talk to you. >> I I'll talk to you. I'll talk to them. Okay. >> Well, well, you can't ask my questions. >> What's that? [laughter] >> I said you can't ask them my questions. >> Probably not. Not banking. Now, as far as banking questions. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Do you have an ID on you, bud? >> Huh? Do >> you have an ID on you? >> What's that? >> Uh, your identification, your name, and everything else? >> Oh, I don't carry around my name or anything. Take it down. All right. Yeah. >> So, what's your name, sir? >> My name? >> Yes, sir. >> Oh, man. I go by many of names, which like my hood name, my street name. >> No, no, sir. No, your actual given name. >> My given name? Yes, sir. >> Well, I'm actually adopted. So, I actually My real name is Dwayne. >> Okay. Dwayne. Yeah. >> That's my But that's not my name now. So, that was just my adoption. I'll tell you what, I'll take down every name you have. [laughter] >> That'll just make it easy, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Dwayne, what's your last name? >> Oh, I don't have that. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know my birth parents. So, >> you don't know your birth parents? Okay. What name do you go by now? >> Uh, well, my street name is Big Boy. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I go by Big Boy. >> Gotcha. All right. Well, let's let's go on something besides a street name. >> Like, >> how about a real name? >> Would you like my suburb name? >> No, sir. >> What they call me like in like when I was in school and stuff? >> No, sir. I'd like something that has your birthday. >> They called me chocolate thunder back in the day. >> Yeah. No, I'd like something that has your birth date and everything. >> My birth date? Why would you know that? Why would you need that? >> Well, because right now I got a suspicious subject. So So without that, I have to detain you until I find out who you are. >> Detain me? >> Yes, sir. >> For what? >> Because you're a suspicious subject. Because they've called you in. >> Cuz I'm documenting. >> City 208. >> You guys hear this? This is hilarious. >> Yeah, because you're documenting. >> Tension rises sharply when a member of the public confronts the auditor about filming. repeatedly accusing him of taking pictures of cars and demanding that he stop. Instead of trying to understand the situation calmly, the person immediately pushes it into a confrontation and hints that police will get involved. And sure enough, moments later, the officers step in. >> So, I'm suspicious cuz I'm recording. >> Yeah, because you're recording windows and I've been told that you asked them what the robbery procedures are. >> Robbery procedures? I never asked them. I asked them if they got robbed before because I'm trying to do my investigation. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, so I don't know who you are. They don't know who you are. We're trying to figure out what's going on. So, the more you cooperate with me. >> No, I don't like to cooperate usually. Yeah. I like to do my own thing on the public sidewalk. So, >> sure. Okay. All right. >> 197 from 28. If you want 25 with me. >> Oh, he can tate. >> What's that? >> He can tate. >> No, that's my sergeant. >> Yeah, he can tate. >> No, he'll be fine coming here. >> You can tate. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. >> Good. Yeah. >> Just tell him code for co for you. >> Not until I figure out a name. So >> ma'am, do you work in there? >> Okay. You love working there? >> Okay. So what? >> Awesome. Awesome. That's good. Huh? >> What are you documenting? >> Whatever I can see out here, man. >> Whatever you can see out here. >> I'm not going to tell you what's going on here. I can't get into that. But got >> I'm enjoying this beautiful day, man. >> Sure. >> Are you doing that? >> Absolutely. >> Nice. Nice. What's your name again? >> Yep. Officer Travis L. >> Travis L. Nice to meet you. That's a cool name. >> Yep. >> All right. >> So, copy of 28. You can just stay right here. >> Huh? >> We're going to talk to him real quick. >> I don't want to. I'm just >> Okay. Well, we're going to. So, >> but I don't want to. >> Well, until you give me a name, we're going to uh keep you here and detain you. As I said, >> you know, Mike, >> what's that? >> They call me Mike. >> Okay. >> Mike Hawk. >> Okay. Is that your real name? >> Uh, I can't really get into that info. >> Say 208. >> Oh, let's go check out these. Whoa. Whoa. >> Are you Are you [ __ ] serious, dude? >> You're detained. [laughter] >> How you doing, Sergeant? What's going on? >> Could I have your name, please? John Lawson. >> Nice to meet you. >> Nice to meet you. What's your name? >> Did you see him just put his hands on me? >> Well, but you kind of walked up on him. >> I kind of was walking that way and he stepped in front of me. Okay. >> You saw that? Come on. Be truthful. >> I was right over here. I didn't see >> Oh, yeah. You did. Yeah, you did. Hands on my hand. That's on your >> I can't get a name out of him. He will not give him his name. He's >> I go by a whole bunch of different names. >> At this time, we'll not give a name. >> Shut up. Shut up. >> What? I mean, just videotaping stuff. >> I'm just documenting, man. [laughter] >> Yeah. He said I was detained. You guys just detain everybody around here or >> Let me talk for a second. Are you just kind of videotaping people coming and going or what do you >> whatever I can see. Man, it's a beautiful day out here today. Even though the auditor is standing on a public sidewalk with no clear sign of criminal activity, the situation is still pushed into control and pressure tactics, making the atmosphere increasingly tense. And when the auditor demands transparency on the spot, the explanations begin to shift and a supervisor steps in. >> But officer here detained me. Are you going to correct his actions or not? >> I'm the one that's in charge right this second. And I'm telling you, as long as you're not harassing people, >> Sure. I don't need your directives, man. >> Can I finish? >> No. >> Okay. Stay on the sidewalk. >> Don't tell me what to do. I can come on their property if I want. >> They do not want you. >> They never said that. >> They told us they don't want you on property. >> I'm going to get the police report. So >> that's fine. You >> okay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm just telling you >> I don't want to hear your director. >> As long as you stay on the sidewalk video. >> What's up? How you doing? What's your name? >> Officer Clump. >> Nice to meet you. >> Do you like my vehicle? >> This one? >> Yeah. >> You like it? Well, I'm not 100% sure it's yours yet, but they'll tell me in a second. >> What? If this is my vehicle? Yeah. Yeah, it is. >> Okay. >> All right. What you say? Big boy. That's your name. >> Huh? >> Are you going to correct him? >> I guess you did. >> Okay. What'd you tell him? >> Huh? What' you tell? >> He said, "As long as you stay on the sidewalk." >> So, why did he put his hands on me then? >> You kind of walked up on him for >> Officer. Officer, it's all on camera. I was walking this way and he cut in front of me and put his hands on me. >> You just said you didn't see it. >> I was right here. >> Guys, look at this. >> That box was blocking my view. Okay. Okay. >> But he's got his body cam on. So, whatever's on his body cam >> Oh, there she is, guys. Yeah. There she >> All I'm saying is is you want to stay on the sidewalk, you can videotape whatever you want. >> I already knew that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I want to step in and talk to them. Sergeant, >> good day. He's going to go in and check with them, but I'm quite certain they don't they didn't want you on the property. >> How do you know? [laughter] >> Because they told my dispatcher. That's >> I'm going to walk this way. Right through here. >> This is an alley. You can walk. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool. I got no problem. Thank you. Thank you. Perfect. Have a good one, man. I just don't appreciate him putting his hands on you. >> No, if you walked up on him, he's not going to want you. >> Well, he walked up on me. I was just out here documenting. Right. >> Look, I'm just telling you, you got every right in the world to stay here on >> I know. I just don't I appreciate you coming up, but I just don't like the way he did it. >> I got you. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. Yep. >> That's taken care of. >> Awesome. >> I'm telling you. >> Appreciate you, man. >> Just don't be harassing people. >> I mean, I'm just talking to him. [laughter] Thank you, man. >> Yay. >> All right, guys. Wow. So, uh, yeah, we're just walking through the alley now. Oh, we get a, uh, better view inside of here. Uh, yeah, this officer put his hands on me. I don't know if you guys saw that, but I was trying to lower my GoPro. Uh, he grabbed my wrist. So, yeah, pathetic. I'm actually listening to music right now in my uh in my AirPod. So, kind of doing a little bit of both things. chilling, listening to music, and exercising my rights today. So, >> the officers keep repeating the same directive. Stay on the sidewalk while avoiding the most important question. Why someone lawfully recording in public is being treated like a suspect. What should have ended quickly is dragged out through imposed commands and unconvincing reasoning. A strong community isn't one where people fear cameras. It's one where people are mature enough to understand that transparency isn't an insult. It's the foundation of trust. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. [music]
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