I have media credentials. >> No, no, I just need I don't need media credentials. I need an ID like um anyone that comes into the police department has to come through our >> the officers begin to better understand the man's true purpose. What seemed like a simple request now draws the attention of everyone in the room, and just minutes later, the issue of identification comes up and the atmosphere immediately changes. I need to make a record request. Are you the records department? Um are you media? I'm an independent journalist. Okay, um what is it that you need? I need the records department public records department. If you're the records department >> I'm one of the public information officers. I can help you. Come come over here. Okay. But you got to go through my screening process. >> Sure. Okay. Can I see all your IDs, please? No. We don't have IDs. That's why I didn't say my name. No IDs? >> No. Like a ID No, I'm not asking for media credentials. Right. I have media credentials. >> No, no, I just need I don't need media credentials. I need an ID like um anyone that comes into the police department has to come through our process. Like a anonymous records request. I don't have a problem with the records request. I do have a problem with the security here though. Anonymous records request. >> I don't have a problem with that. I need for you to clear security. Please don't get upset. I'm I'm not >> I just need to have ID. >> I don't have ID and I want to make an anonymous record Are you from Florida? Yes. I want to make an anonymous records request. >> Okay, what is your anonymous records request? >> I want to make an anonymous records request with the records department. >> Okay, you can ask me and I'll >> Okay. All right, let's see how we What is it that you need? >> I need the general orders for your police staff. I need a list of uh vehicle numbers to which all deputy or uh police officers are assigned out of this building. Do you have Do you dispatch people out of here? But um you need general Yeah, I need to know what you >> What's your name and badge number? Officer Mike Vega. I'll give you the information. And what's yours? Officer Kenny Frias, badge number 0083. Thank you. This is perfect. >> is general orders. Can you be a little more specific? >> Policies and procedures for the police. The the our departmental orders? Yes. Sure, not a problem. They are public record. >> Wonderful. And what else? Um I wanted to find out if you guys wore body cams and if you did, I was going to request some body cam footage. That's fine, go ahead. Um you're you are subject to a fee. We'll be more than happy to make things a little easier to see just to go down the list of what you need. He's providing you the email, so then once you do provide us with the list of what you want, we'll furnish it. >> Oh, wait a second. I'm sorry. I thought you said you were taking my email No, no, he's After several tense minutes discussing ID and procedures, the situation seems to calm down. But the moment the list of requested records is brought up, the conversation takes a completely different turn. I'm not computer phobic. I >> So what we'll do is >> I have an email. >> Okay, um do you have a phone number? I have an email. You have an email, so then you're okay with receiving emails. Yes. I I created the email specifically to be anonymous and have records sent to that email. >> Okay, so this is what we're going to do. In order to facilitate things, okay, and make things easier, um you can we can send you the records that you wish, the public records request, via email or we can do it on paper. But in order I understand you say you're okay with email, this is why we took your email down [music] and we'll email you. You have You didn't take it down. No, no, I was going to give him my email so he can email me what he requested. No, no, I want to just You're writing it down, this is perfect. >> Okay, let me Can I have a piece of paper, Can you write it down what you want? You were on the right track, you just got >> [laughter] >> This is I'm not This is This is yeah, we're just This is a very simple procedure. >> Absolutely, but this is all but you're making it a little difficult for me as far as The only reason we made it we wanted the email email was so that you could send me, "Hey, Officer Frias, this is what I want." And that's it. >> Okay, well, I can just tell you right now and you could write it down. >> write it down. Okay, so you want our depart our departmental orders? Correct. Okay. Are I'm Are we Oh, I thought they're with you. Okay. Yeah, we're we're all independent, but we're all together today. Departmental orders, what else? All the vehicle numbers and the police officers to which they're assigned here out of in the downtown area. >> need to check if that's a public record. I need to see I need to see >> redactable stuff. I need to see if that's public record. I have to check with our legal division, okay? >> go ahead and I can save you the time and tell you it is. I don't believe you. Right. Sir, again, I have to follow in a protocol, so Exactly. >> Vehicle division marked vehicles, you said? Yes. Okay. Yeah, I don't I don't want to compromise your undercover detectives. Okay, marked vehicles division. Right. And just the officers to which they're assigned. Assigned, so I you're being specific to uniform patrol officers. Correct. Okay. Okay, uh what else? Uh that's all I had. >> [music] >> Once the list of records had been written down, it seemed like everything had been settled, but the man wasn't finished yet. His next request pushed the conversation into a new phase, and this time the officer's reaction was quite unexpected. Give me my wife's email address. It's patriot discussions, plural with an S on the end, all one word, patriotdiscussions@gmail.com. And I want all officer involved shootings from 2018 that you got body cam footage of. You can send an estimate to my wife and we'll send you a check and then we'll come in and pick up the CDs or have them mailed to us. Okay, sounds good. Thank you. 2008 to date. >> No, 2018. All >> 2018 to date. >> the that one year. >> No, just for the year, I'm sorry. Oh, just 2018. Just for 2018. Yeah, a lot of this stuff this year is still under investigation and they can't release it, yada yada. Okay, and even the ones from 2018 may not be closed yet. But all closed cases, just to be specific. I'm going to read I'm going to repeat this to you just to make sure. You want the email on this public records request sent to patriotdiscussions@gmail.com. Yes, and I don't want to block his writing. Can I go ahead and film this public area? Yes, I you can once you provide the ID and you pass Oh, okay, so I can't just show you that >> from there. I don't have a I can't like show you that I'm not a security risk without any weapons going through here and maintain my fourth amendment right to be anonymous? >> I don't have I'm not I don't have a problem with you being You know what? Go ahead. Thank you. That's Clear if >> [snorts] >> But you interrupted my Okay, give me a minute. Let me finish with this gentleman. So it's patriot patriotdiscussions@gmail.com. Oh, I'm I'm just going to look around. And that's it. Everything else is secure. >> records department. Right. After the requested records were written down, it seemed like everything was over, but one issue still remained unresolved. The officer's original demand for ID. Just seconds later, the police officer's decision would send this situation in a completely different direction. How are you, sir? Yeah, if I didn't make it clear, we have no ill will, no ill intent. >> No problem, sir. Okay. We have treated you like you were you're entitled to the Did you go to Miami High? I'm sorry? >> Did you go to Miami High? No, I did not. I'm one of the few that Thank you. You didn't record her, did you? Yes, I did. Did you zoom in? >> [laughter] >> Like this? Don't zoom in like Oh, no. Hey, what's up, money bags? You reached Winston here. Hello. Community relations. Sir, do you need a pass to go through there? Really? Yeah. That's pretty antithetical to that sign. However, what's going on is that you're recording some of our undercover officers. Okay. >> want them to be recorded. If you point them out, I will delete them. >> I've heard that. She's undercover. Okay. I got you covered. >> We just want to make sure that No problem. You got it. Thank you, man. You got it. Yeah, no, that's the respect goes both ways. I'd say. After all the tense exchanges earlier, the situation finally came to an unexpected conclusion. The man was allowed to pass through the security area without presenting any identification, and the encounter ended without any conflict or arrest. Up next, just minutes after filming began, a security guard suddenly approached and started questioning the cameraman. Questions about his identity and the purpose of recording quickly followed, and the atmosphere soon became tense. Lantmannen Unibake. There's a member of staff just there who has high vis on. And we also have a member of staff in the gatehouse. I'm not sure whether he is uh giving us a thumbs up or what. I don't know. It's located here, look, right next to the What is it? A 421. And it looks quite nice from the outside. Good first impressions. Not sure exactly what products they make, but basically it's a bakery. Sorry? You've got the ID card. What are you What are you making a What are you making videos or I did. What are you What are you making a photos taking photos or What's the reason you taking photos? What is it for Google Map? What is it for? I I can put a little photo onto Google on the business page. Oh, what what what Who are you? What I mean What do you What do you work for a company or what? Just a YouTube a YouTube channel. >> YouTuber. Just wanted to make a video of this place and put it on the YouTube. Right. Because this is a breach of security for us, yeah? Oh. >> know what you why you taking the You know, you could be anybody. Oh. We don't know if you're a terrorist or related where you take the video or make the pictures or take the video or anything like that. So, we have to ask you we need to see your ID if you taking the photos or anything. What is it for? What's the purpose behind it? What's Why are you recording me on that? This is This one I'm going to use this one for the YouTube video. This one's just for protection. But yeah, that's the point, yeah. >> protection. After a series of questions about his identity and the reason for filming, it was clear the situation wasn't over yet. As the cameraman continued explaining his purpose, the security guard began making even more controversial demands. And at that moment, the conversation started to grow tense. Data Protection Our Data Protection Act, yeah? So, you're taking videos without us authorizing it. So, you're going to have to remove it off. Yeah, like Yeah. You're not You're not supposed to be allowed to cuz you could be like For instance, I explained, you could be anybody. You could be just taking a making a What? Video? Anything of the company. And then we don't know what is behind it. You could be plotting something. That's the way they look at it, yeah? >> Yeah, yeah. Just go and tell them it's just for a YouTube video. Innocent. Yeah, but they If you've got any ID or anything or why I've not brought it out with me today, no. So, you have >> need ID for doing this. No, but this is on our It's a as a company, this is the company's policy. So, you have to >> Yeah, I mean you By all means, if you had a photo ID, show them what's what, and then yeah, why What is the purpose behind it? Why are you doing it? But you're going to have to remove the footage or anything. >> how to do that. I don't know how to delete it. Sorry? You sure? No, there is no delete button on it. Yeah, but it's your It's your It's your device, isn't it? So, you have to work the device. >> No, cuz what I do, I put the SD card into the computer, and then I delete it off the SD card on the computer. So, I don't know how to delete it, my friend, from here. I've got a drone there on the on the floor getting ready. I was just going to take the drone away. >> you're not even allowed to fly anything around the building. You can't do that. >> Are you sure? Yes, you can't do that. >> I've never heard of this before. >> You You are not allowed to Is it only this building? We You get prosecuted for that. You get prosecuted here and around. No one in this company will allow you to do that. Sorry, I can't hear you. What are you saying? The next door is getting refurbished, right? All right. And what they had done, the security guards over there, they were monitoring it when it was getting refurbished. What they done is they took the half They took half of this building apart, yeah? And they extended outwards, and the security >> What, this new bit here? >> Yeah, yeah, that >> All right. That building next door is to this, yeah? It's for rent. So, you mean you mean that bit there that's sticking out? That's brand new? >> Yep. All right. Looks nice, isn't it? Yeah, but >> But that part with the You can stop recording. You can go over there and record over there, but not record here. Not record outside. Not even that building? This is our gate. This is our entrance to our gate. >> Oh, I might have got your gate in. You got our gate. You got to go record it. You can record it over there cuz they were flying their drones over there down here over to our site over here and to the smokers. Even though the cameraman repeatedly explained his purpose, the security guard remained concerned about potential risks. Shortly after, the conversation shifted toward broader issues related to the security of the area. See, what's going to happen then? Do you know? Cuz I can't delete it, and I just want to make a little video of this place. And if I carry on >> You're going to You're going to put that on your system on your computer, the your uh SD card. Yeah. When you put your SD card in your on your computer, you can delete the pictures. Yeah, I know, but I want to make the video. I still want to make it cuz I don't What is the purpose of you making the video? That's what we want to know. What is the purpose? Is this a bakery? This is Yeah. What do they make? Yeah, but I'm not going to disclose that information to you. I don't know who you are and what is the purpose you're making the video. >> show you the YouTube channel. But But all I'm saying is we don't have authorized to for you to make video of the of the company. All right. That's what I'm saying. We don't even know who you are. You could be anybody. >> What's What's going to happen? What Do you know if I just carry on, what's going to happen? Just I know. I'm going to get a call from the big boss in there on the radio saying, "What's that guy or that chap?" Yeah. That chap by >> If I tell you a YouTube, then you can just tell him. Then problem solved. Yeah, but they're going to say, "No, I'm not robbing, yeah?" No, we're not saying that. It could be Behind it, it could be behind, you know, anything could happen. Yeah, not not with me, mate. I'm innocent. Cuz you know what? You know at the moment there's a lot of things going with on with Donald Trump with Iceland, Denmark, and all that. This is a Danish company. Ah. >> You see where I'm coming from now? Okay. Okay. So, we don't know if we've been targeted and what's what. Yeah? So, does it make sense what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. >> little bit. I went onto the website. It looks really good company, eh? Look at Look at all this. Um But I can't really see the product. Is that the product there? Sustania about bites. How do you say it? >> Yeah, yes. Sustania, yeah, yeah. Have you heard that before, yeah? Is that one of yours? >> This is No, this is not ours. This is not our product. Is this like Europe's largest bakery? Yeah, this is one of the biggest in the Yeah. >> This is global global globally. See what I mean? That's amazing. I just want to show people where you are. Yeah, but what I'm saying is this is global, you see? Oh, how do you say it? Lantmannen Unibake? Say it again. Lantmannen Unibake. Lantmannen? >> Yeah, Lantmannen. Lantmannen Unibake is one of Europe's largest bakery groups groups with 30 30 bakeries in multiple countries. Come on. The argument briefly eased when the security guard said he needed to check with his supervisor. But while waiting for a response, the cameraman remained there. And what happened next made the situation even more interesting. need to do it. Such a good This will make me loads of money. >> need to give you authorization. So, as soon as I get authorization, I'll give you a shout on the call on the radio, and he'll just give you a Give me 2 minutes, yeah? Yeah, I'll leave you to do that cuz I'll I'll be really quick out here. Yeah, but before you start recording or doing anything, just give me 2 minutes, and then we'll just Yeah? You want You want 2 minutes, man to man, yeah? Gentlemen's agreement. Okay. Cuz he's here. He's got a radio, and I'll just get you off the radio. I'll start the 2 minutes on there. Yeah, I'm going to go Listen, I've got I got Listen. >> Go. Go. 2 minutes, man to man, yeah? I've got a torn ACL in my leg, and you want >> Use your radio. I'll give you 2 minutes. You've got 2 minutes. >> [laughter] >> As agreed. And we're on 21 seconds of those 2 minutes. Yeah, he was all right. It was just um uneducated, but he's a nice guy, you know? When we've got somebody like that, you've got to be sort of human and be on their level until they show disrespect. 42 In the end, the cameraman leaves, taking the footage he has just recorded with him. What seemed like a simple encounter ends up sparking broader discussions about privacy, security, and citizens' rights in public spaces. Citizens may file a lawsuit against police under Section 1983 if their rights are violated. Officers who break the law could face financial liability, disciplinary action, or even termination. What matters most is not who is right or wrong, but how each person chooses to remain [music] calm, respectful, and informed when facing unexpected situations. 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