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You BS me. >> You're threatening me. >> Tell it's not a threat. >> Okay, listen. Here's the deal. Sir, can I ask you something? >> Not till I'm done talking. Not till I'm done talking. You told me >> when I'm asked to get out of a police car. When you're When you're asked to get out of what you said when you are asked >> Oh, yeah. You don't have the right mentality for this job. >> Oh, I don't I know a lot of cops. >> Oh, congratulations. None of them act like you. Cory Kowalsski calmly stands his ground as Deputy L repeatedly demands he exit his vehicle during a routine traffic stop in Michigan, refusing to comply without clear legal justification beyond the initial speeding allegation. The US Supreme Court in Pennsylvania versus Mims 1977 held that police officers may order a driver to exit a vehicle during a lawful traffic stop without violating the Fourth Amendment as the intrusion is minimal and outweighed by officer safety concerns. When the deputy misquot Michigan law by claiming it requires exiting a police car and shifts from asking to threatening arrest, Cory challenges the inconsistency and demands the specific statute, exposing the deputy's vague authority. The driver labels the behavior a power trip and refuses to answer irrelevant questions about drinking, work, or destination, preventing any fishing for additional suspicion. >> For what? Cuz I asked you to. >> No, I'm not. Not unless you were going to arrest me. >> Okay. I don't know what I did. I just told you so you were speeding. >> I was not speeding. I never went over 25 m an hour. >> Yeah, you did, sir. >> No, I didn't. >> Okay. >> Absolutely not. I never went over 25. >> Where you headed to? >> What does that I don't understand that any of that matters. >> If you're going to write me a ticket for speeding, then write me a ticket for speeding. We'll go to court. I will. Okay. Okay. But other than that, I haven't done anything wrong. Okay. I'm going to ask you one more time to step out of the car. Okay. I'll step out of the car. Yeah. That's a really good decision you just made. Put your cigarette out. >> Well, you're on a power trip, huh? >> No, there's no power trip, sir. Absolutely. >> I'm just doing what the law allows me to do. >> What law are you referring to? The Michigan law, sir? >> What Michigan law? The statute that you're referring to. >> Michigan law requires you to step out of the vehicle when asked by an officer. Do you understand that law? >> No. Apparently, I don't because it doesn't exist. >> It doesn't exist? >> No. What probable cause do you have for having me to have to kick Kevin out of the car? >> Because I asked you to. >> You asked. Is it a lawful order? >> Yes, sir. >> Really? >> Yes, sir. >> How? >> What do you mean how? >> Yeah, I'm asking you how. Why? >> What do you mean how? >> Yeah. What is your your reasonable articulable suspicion? >> All I can do is ask you to. >> Right. I just asked you if you were asking me or telling me if it was a lawful order. You said that it was a lawful order. Now you're saying that you were asking me. You got a supervisor out here, please. >> I'd like to speak with a sergeant. Okay, >> this is the deal here. I'm going to go back and I'm going to run your name. >> Okay. >> I'm going to come back and I'm going to give you a chance to think about you getting out of the car. >> Uh-uh. No. No. You're >> Listen. Who are you talking to? You're not intimidating. >> I'm not trying to You're going to write me a ticket >> and then I'm going to ask you to get out of the car. Okay. And if you don't get out of the car, you are going to jail. Do you understand? Do you understand me? >> For what? Do you understand? >> Deputy L. >> Do you understand? >> What have I done to create? I'm asking you to death. >> Doesn't matter. Get out of the car, >> sir. I'm asking you what I did. >> Sir, I'm not going to ask you again. >> You're opening my car door and removing me for what? A speeding ticket? >> I am asking you to get out of the car. >> And I told you I would get out. Then get out. >> I don't understand why you're being this way. Being which way, sir? >> You're being hostile. You're being hostile. >> Deescalate, sir. >> Deescalate. I'm not upset. What do I mean? You deescalate me. You're threatening me. >> No, it's not a threat. Okay, listen. Here's a deal. >> Can I Can I ask you something? >> Not till I'm done talking. Not till I'm done talking. >> What is with your talking? It's not a power. >> Why are you being authorative over me? Go ahead. Just keep talking. Okay. Keep talking and let me know when you're done. >> I'm sorry. You let me know when you're done. Keep your hands out of your pocket. >> You let me know when you're done and then I will talk. >> Okay, I'm done. >> Are you sure? >> Yes, sir. >> You're not going to interrupt anymore? >> No, I'm not. >> Okay. Michigan law requires you to get out of a police car when requested by a police officer. >> I wasn't in a >> I'm I'm I'm not done. >> I wasn't I'm not done talking. >> You told me when I >> I said when I'm I asked you to to if you were going to be done talking so I could talk. >> Sir, I was done talking. >> Go ahead. You talk again. I was done. Keep talking. Go ahead. >> You just told me when you told me to get out of a police car. All I'm saying >> it's required by law and you're not in a police car. >> That's what I just said. You >> You are not in a police car, sir. >> You just told me I was in a police car. When you tell me to get out of Can you please help me out here? >> No. Nobody's going to help you out. >> You said that. Go ahead. >> If you would stop, I would explain. >> Oh, okay. I'm going to explain. You explain to me what's going on. told me when I'm asked to get out of a police car. When you're asked to get out of what you said when you are asked to get out of your car by a police officer body, >> you are required to by law. Do you understand that? >> I do understand what you're saying. >> Perfect. I don't agree with it, but I understand. >> It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, sir. Has no effect on it. Okay. >> Are we clear? >> Yes, sir. >> Good. I'm glad you understand Michigan law. How much have you had to drink tonight? >> Nothing. >> Not a set. >> I don't drink at all. >> You don't? Okay. So, you're displaying behavior like you have been? >> No, I'm not. I'm on my way to work. >> Where do you work at? >> It's none of your business. >> Where you coming from? >> It's none of your business. >> No, you're displaying behavior. >> No, it's not. Why? Because I'm not bowing down to your attitude and your power trip. >> It's not a power trip, sir. It >> is exactly what it is. >> No, sir. >> No. Yeah. You don't have the right mentality for this job. >> Oh, I don't know. I know a lot of cops. >> Oh, congratulations. come act like you. >> 31 years and I don't have the right mentality. >> Cory Kowalsski continues to assert his rights by declining personal questions and pointing out the deputy's aggressive tone from the outset, including the claim that only white lights were initially activated. Under the Fourth Amendment, as reinforced in Rodriguez versus United States, 2015, officers may not prolong a traffic stop beyond the time needed to address the original violation without independent reasonable suspicion of additional criminal activity. The deputy's attempts to label Cory's demeanor as impairment-like behavior fail as the driver simply refuses to bow down and sticks to none of your business responses. Radio checks confirm the 2006 Dodge Chargers valid registration to Ivan Michelle Kowalsski and current insurance shown on the phone with only a suspicious pink pouch near the VN noted, but yielding no violations. Cory politely allows the interaction to proceed after being permitted back into his cold car to save the battery. Yet, he still calls out the unnecessary 11-minute detention as unlawful. The deputy's authority visibly deflates when he can find no basis for more charges, proving that calm boundary setting can check unchecked power. >> Congratulations. >> None of them act like you. >> 31 years and I don't have the right mentality. You know more than I do, that's for sure. >> I'm not claiming. I'm not claiming that I know anything more than you. >> Well, you seem to. >> You're being aggressive. I'm being aggressive. As soon as you >> I look aggressive to you. >> You start running or something aggressive to you because you weren't the car. You didn't have your lights on. All you had on were white lights. >> Oh, we had our lights on, sir. >> You had white lights on. >> We had lights on, sir. >> They were just white. There were to know everything tonight. >> I'm going to request your dash cam, your body cams, all of it. Request everything, sir. It's all going to go right to Sierra all over. Oh, you're going to start going. I know cops. Nope. I'm just saying that none of them like act like you. I've never had this experience with a cop ever. >> Never. >> Wow. >> It's fine, sir. If you'd like to give me a ticket, I'll accept the ticket. I'll take it to court. Fine. Of course. >> It's fine. >> Of course you will. >> We got about another freaking 11 minutes, though. And this is unlawful. I mean Oh, now we're unlawful. >> Yeah. >> Okay. There's a reasonable expectation for speeding ticket, time frame, and all that. So, I'm just sitting here for no reason. It's not sitting here for no reason. I'm I'm letting you talk, sir. >> You seem to be You say that several times and you just keep talking. >> Okay. >> You under any narcotics right now? >> Nope. >> Nothing at all? >> No, I don't answer questions. I'm done answering questions. You ever been arrested before? I said, "Sir, I'm done answering questions." Okay, just stand right there for me. Absolutely. Cory Kowalsski. No. Valid showers endorsement here in December of 2026. >> Mr. Qualsski, you again issued a violation this morning for a violation of the basic speed law. You can take care of it within 10 days at the court of Crawford. All the directions are on the back. The court address and phone number on the front. Do you have any questions? Not for you. Okay. Make sure you have your seat belt on. Okay, sir. >> I'm sorry. >> Okay. Have a good evening. >> Thank you. Cory Kowalsski ultimately accepts the speeding citation for violating Michigan's basic speed law while planning to contest it in court, ending the encounter on his terms without further incident. Michigan Vehicle Code section 257.628 establishes basic speed laws requiring drivers to operate at reasonable speeds with civil citations issuable under section 257.742 without mandatory extended detention absent additional cause. After issuing the ticket with court directions for Crawford County, the deputy offers a seat belt reminder and a courteous have a good evening. A stark shift from earlier threats of jail. Cory thanks him politely despite the tension, maintaining dignity throughout and avoiding escalation to arrest or additional violations. The deputy's final remarks and radio chatter reveal lingering suspicions, but no actionable findings, leaving him humbled by a citizen who refused intimidation. This single stop demonstrates how knowledge of rights, composure, and firm insistence on lawful limits can powerfully humble even a seasoned powertripping deputy.
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