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My movement, sir. >> I have a question for you. >> You're being live streamed on the internet. >> for you, sir. >> You're being live streamed on the internet, sir. >> you, sir. >> I don't care. >> Take it up >> No, I just wanted to get >> No, you can't you cannot impede >> This is an airport. Why don't you show me your ID? What's What's the big What's the big deal? Why are you being so confrontational? >> Just for filming in public, they were immediately demanded to show ID, but when no law could justify it, the situation quickly turned around. >> We are. >> What law is that? >> a crime. It's actually called obstruction if you fail to provide documentation. >> If you fail to provide your documentation, you can be placed under arrest for obstruction. >> You think so? Show your ID or be arrested. A familiar line, but this time it became evidence of abuse of power and the legal consequences that followed. A man was simply filming at the airport, but within minutes everything turned tense as the arrival of police completely shifted the atmosphere. >> I'm sorry. I can't hear a word you're saying. >> Operation right now, you'll get stopped filming. >> Did I think I didn't I just get caught filming? Isn't that what just happened? >> No. >> By whom? Whose operations? >> Airport. >> Is that that sounds official. Is it? Is it That's not Is that city or is that federal? Holy Christ. Something bad might happen. Is there Is there something wrong again? Against this? Am I doing something wrong? I can't I can't hear a word you're saying, dude. Do you know Do you know semaphore? Are you ex-military? Or perhaps sign language. I can't hear you over the wind. 4209 Empire Ave. I'm pretty sure that the FAA is inside there. And this looks pretty official. Here we go. I've never seen a sign like that. >> At first, it was just ordinary footage at the airport, but in an instant, unwanted attention appeared, triggering a barrage of questions and quickly turning the atmosphere tense as a seemingly simple situation suddenly escalated into a confrontation. >> Name and badge number, please. >> Why don't you show me your ID? What's What's the big What's the big deal? Why are you so confrontational? >> Quit resisting. Stop resisting, officer. Why don't you give me your uh name and your badge number? Is that what you do to the judge when the judge asks for your name and badge number when you go in front? >> sir. You can put it on your camera. >> Is Is it your policy to state your name? Is it your policy to state your name and badge number or to show it? There's no problem. Am I being detained or am I free to leave? >> No, you're being confrontational. >> Okay. Bye. Is that a crime? >> It's a free country. >> Okay. Bye. >> Have a good day. >> You too. That didn't go as well as you thought it was going to go, did you? You can't block my You cannot impede my my movement, sir. >> I have a question for you. >> You're being live streamed on the internet. >> for you, sir. >> live streamed on the internet, sir. I don't care. Take it a >> I have a question for you. >> Stop impeding my travel, sir. >> filming >> You're being live streamed on the internet. Make to You want me to answer your question >> Make it good. >> No, I just wanted to get No, you can't You cannot impede >> an airport and for security reasons, I want to know why you're filming people and cars. Why are you >> Call your supervisor. Right now. Call your watch commander. Right now. Right now, do it. >> be quiet for a minute, I'll call him. >> Oh, I'm sorry. You were doing all the yelling. Now, you don't like it when I turn the script on you. >> No, you >> You can't block my You cannot impede my my movement, sir. >> I have a question for you. >> You're being live-streamed on the internet. >> you, sir. >> live-streamed on the internet, sir. >> you, sir. >> care. Take it up >> I have a question for you. >> Stop impeding my travel, sir. >> filming? >> You're being live-streamed on the internet. >> Okay, >> Make it good. >> want me to answer your question or are you going to talk over me? >> No, I just wanted to get No, you can't You cannot impede >> an airport and for security reasons, I want to know why you're filming people and cars. Why are you >> Call your supervisor. Right now. Call your watch commander. Right now. >> The situation quickly escalated as unanswered questions intensified the tension and as both sides began to lose patience, an unexpected turning point was about to unfold, one where things would no longer remain just words. >> I'll be right at the gate. Filming. >> I'm going to ask you to not film me cuz you haven't told me why you're filming yet. >> I don't need to tell you why I'm filming you. >> Cuz there's an airport here. For security reasons, I need to know. >> Do you understand? Do you understand how silly you sound right now? >> Yeah, very probably. >> What What law am I What law am I breaking? What penal code? California penal code? Or even a vague California penal code? >> If you want me to answer your questions, I suggest you maybe start answering my questions. >> That's not how it works. >> Oh, okay. Thank you, judge. >> Am I being Am I being detained? >> Well, you asked for a supervisor, you're going to have to >> It doesn't mean I'm being detained. >> Keep talking over me because you're for rude and discourteous. >> What's the badge number? >> Right here, sir. 337 >> 337. Great. Tell me your name again. >> Dohl, d o h l e. >> d o h l e. Perfect. Thank you. Can I get your name and badge number? >> me why you out here filming for. >> I'm asking her a question. >> you. You ask me a question, I answer it. Conversation goes both ways. >> No, that's not how it works. You're a public servant. >> Conversation >> name and badge number, ma'am? >> Why are you out here video taping for security reasons? >> Tell me what law I'm breaking. >> I asked you a question. You're evading my question. >> I'm not evading. I'm not obligated to answer, sir. >> This is the airport, and for security reasons, we need to know why you're out here filming. If you give me a good reason, I'll let you go. If you give me a good reason, I'll let you go. I mean, but you're not giving me a reason at all. >> content for a story, and now you're the story about what public officials do in public. >> So, why couldn't you have told me that in the first place instead of being evasive? >> I wasn't evasive. I don't need to tell you anything. >> Yes, you do. >> I don't need to >> I have been called out here for a reason. I'm asking you questions, and you don't want to seem to answer them. You want to talk over me and continue >> to answer your questions. >> Yes, you do, sir. For what film show? And do you have a film permit? Have you contacted the airport for permission to film out here? I don't seem to be getting any answers from you, sir. Those are reasonable questions. >> I've already told you why I'm here. I'm filming for a story to be published. >> Okay. And have you contacted the airport and got permission from the airport to film at the airport? >> Am I on the airport, or am I on a public sidewalk? >> Okay, you're still not answering my question. >> The confrontation had now gone beyond simple questions, as tension surged and every word carried a challenge. But what made the situation even more unpredictable was what came next, as the line between authority and control began to be pushed to its limits. >> Excuse me, sir. How about if I see your ID, sir? >> No, that's not how it works. >> Yes, it is, sir. I'm asking you for your ID. I have to identify myself. >> You have not. >> I have to. I've shown you my ID. You looked at my I know who I'm talking to. Hm? >> Am I obligated under California law to show you my ID? >> I am here. >> Yes or no? >> Can I explain myself or are you going to keep talking over me? You seem to be pretty good at that. >> Okay? >> Bye. >> No, sir. >> Bye. >> Sir. >> Bye. >> Sir, I'm talking to you. I need your identification. Sir, please show me your identification. You are failing to identify yourself. I'm out here on an investigation. Please identify yourself. I have a right to do that and you know that. You're about to walk into a telephone pole, sir. >> I'm not. >> Can I see your identification, sir? Can I see your identification, sir? Are you refusing to show your identification to me, sir? You're going to run into a pole. >> Nope, see? >> I guess that was my fault, too. >> No, not at all. You're not obligated to have any expectation of my welfare. >> supervisor is on his way out. Are you going to wait for him or are you just going to keep walking then? >> I just want you to just keep making an idiot of yourself. Be the next YouTube star. >> Perfect. So, you're failing to identify yourself to me, sir? >> Can I get your name and You're going to turn away when I try to get your name. Is that policy? You're not turning away. You're facing me. Oh gosh, this is This is amazing. >> Why won't you show me your ID? Identify yourself. You have something to hide? Yes, no? >> I need to comply and then I'll be on my way? >> The tension had moved beyond words as the situation entered a more unpredictable phase where every action could shift the outcome and as patience wore thin, what followed would steer everything in a completely different direction. >> Christ. videos or photography. Now, there's nothing wrong with it so long as normally you would obtain a permission from the airport. Okay, but since you didn't, we're talking to you. And if everything checks okay, you can go about your business. >> Everything does check okay. >> Okay, but we don't know you. >> I don't know you. I've got four guys here with guns. You're telling me to You're telling me to relax? >> Honestly, do you really think this is this is going to help you? >> Do you know that I'm nine times more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist? No, I'm not. So, the 100 and 150 >> hi? Did you ever think of shaking my hand? >> No, we we'd already surpassed that thanks to officer Tool, whatever his >> They're not me. >> Okay, well, they represent your your police department. And if you think that that was their job to imp- Do you think Do you think it's legal for me to to impede my traffic if I want to walk past you right now? Yes or no? >> walk past you right now? >> If I did. If I wanted to walk past you right now. >> Well, if you were investigating suspicious circumstances, >> Is that a >> you could possibly be detained. >> I asked him if I was being detained or if I was free to go. He said I was not being detained. So, when I tried to walk, he got in my way. You'll see this all This is You'll you'll be in all your glory, so the next YouTube stars. I was just shooting pictures of planes taking off. Makes for some good footage. I'm making a story. It's all I already said. Listen, you come at me sideways like that, sorry, you're going to get sideways back. Sorry. It's called de-escalation. It's something that police have little interest or um knowledge of these days. You wouldn't agree with that? >> Uh I would disagree with that. >> Okay. >> I think that we do everything we can to de-escalate things. >> After all the tension and arguments, things seem to settle down. No one was arrested. No clear charges were made leaving behind a situation that makes viewers wonder, where does the line between law enforcement and personal freedom truly lie? Up next, just for holding a camera in front of a police station, a man was suddenly warned that he could be arrested, but the real reason behind it made everything even more confusing. >> We got a uh park in the back. This is a no trespassing area past this point. We got Toms River Animal Shelter. We got the internet safe zone. The animal shelter's across the street. We got a traffic unit backing in over here. Thought he was going to uh accost me there for a minute, run me over, but looks okay, see what he says. Here we have the internet exchange safe zone. I think I mentioned that already. You doing uh internet sales or something, you can pull up here. I guess there's a uh there's a camera up there which covers that area. So, this is a police personnel only entrance. Here we have a uh uh a remembrance in honor of Steven F. Lomer, detective. What's going on? Taking some pictures? Working on a story for the township. >> You're working on a story for the township? >> Well, about the township for for me. >> For you? >> Yes. >> you making, a documentary? >> Um it's a news story. >> News story? >> Yeah. >> Do you have ID? >> I always have ID. >> After what seemed like routine questions, the atmosphere began to shift as things were no longer as simple as they first appeared. And in an instant, the exchange turned more tense, where every word had the potential to push the situation further than expected. >> Yeah, I do. >> No, you don't. >> I do, sir. >> No, you don't. >> Yes, I do. >> And what law is that? >> Well, it came in as a suspicious person. Anytime we investigate as to somebody calling in about suspicious, we need to at least identify who it is we spoke to. You're not in trouble in any way. >> All right. Okay, then I don't need to give ID. >> Well, you do. >> What law is that? >> to know who you are. >> What law is that? >> a crime. It's actually called obstruction if you fail to provide documentation. >> Law. Quote the quote that statute. Quote obstruction. Apparently, you don't. >> Sir, look, I'm not looking >> I have to commit an unlawful act and prevent you from performing your unlawful duty to be in violation of obstruction. >> Currently, right now >> So, what's the unlawful act? >> Right now, this came in as a person. >> Okay, and and what statute is it's suspicious? >> Has nothing to do with it. >> Yes, it does. What's the law? >> what's going on. >> I'm taking pictures in public. >> You're telling me you're doing something. That's fine, but I need to verify who you are. So, in the event that something turns into something, I at least can say, "All right, I went out and I spoke with this person." You're making this more difficult than it needs to be. >> No, you are. >> Not really. >> You can come out and say, "Good morning, sir. How are you doing? Taking pictures. Enjoying your first amendment right to take pictures in public." >> What what was the first thing that I said to you today? >> What are you doing? >> I said, "No, I said, 'How are you, sir?'" >> Okay, how are you? >> not say that to you? >> No. >> So, you just asked me, "What did I do?" And I already told you what I said. I said, "How are you?" And I said, "What are we doing?" And you told me what you're doing. I said, "That's fine." And I explained to you why I need documentation from you just to verify who you are. >> Okay, but you don't need to verify who I am. >> I unfortunately do. Yes. >> No, I have the right to privacy in public. >> to a certain degree. >> Yeah, and this is it within that degree. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> But but again, if we're investigating you for suspicious because somebody called it in, it's not like we just >> It doesn't matter somebody called it in. >> Yes, it does. >> Okay, so if you're outside on your property mowing your lawn, and somebody says you're suspicious, and the police come by, you have to give them your ID? >> To verify that you live there, yeah. >> No, you don't. It's your property. >> Well, you're entitled to think whatever you want. >> I'm entitled to follow the law. >> Which is okay. And again, I'm if we're investigating this because somebody called it in as a suspicious person, we just need to verify who you are and identify who you are. >> And what's what statute is suspicious? What law am I breaking? >> Sir, again, I'm not I already went over this with you. I don't need to >> And you haven't justified yourself yet. >> I do. And listen, again, if you fail to provide your documentation, you can be placed under arrest for obstruction. >> You think so? >> The conversation had now clearly grown tense as opposing arguments clashed head-on, and neither side was willing to back down. But what made the situation even more unpredictable was what was about to happen next as an unexpected turning point began to unfold. >> You again, can you please provide your documentation, otherwise you are going to be placed under arrest for obstruction. >> I do not have identification on me. >> Well, so then you lied to me because when I I asked you if you had a on you, you told me yes I do. >> I have fingerprints and retinas. >> No, that's that's incorrect. I asked you, do you have documentation? Do you have identification? >> No. >> You can go back into your video recorder and you can verify my ID. >> I always have ID. >> Okay, can you provide that? >> No. >> Okay, so who are you then? Because we're going to have to verify who you are. And here's the other problem. Now you lied to me, so now I have a concern as to whether you're being truthful and honest with me, do you understand? >> Okay, well you're not being truthful and honest with me because you haven't quoted a law yet that I'm required to show you ID. >> explained to you what happens >> a supervisor. >> If you fail to There's actually a supervisor right there. >> Okay. >> Okay, and I don't need to have a supervisor anyway because I asked you for who you are. >> Well, I'm asking for a supervisor. I did not lie about who I am. >> what happens if you fail to provide documentation. Now if I find out you're lying to me, now you could be charged with hindering and giving failed documentation. >> Well, no. >> You have two sergeants right here. >> Okay. >> So what is your name and what is your information? >> I'm not answering any questions, personal information. >> then you're going to be placed under arrest for obstruction. >> What law is that, sergeant? >> He doesn't need to explain it to you. >> Oh, he does actually. He actually does. So let's find out. >> Can I just ask you what you're doing here? >> Yes, sir. I'm in public taking pictures of a public building expressing my first amendment right to freedom of press. I'm here to actually file a complaint. >> You have every right, you have all those rights you just you just >> Thank you. Well, he appears to tell me that I don't. >> Just just so you know, there are areas of this building that are posted off limits. >> Yep, like the back of that parking lot there that says restricted area, you can't go back there. Absolutely. And I don't need to show ID to do that. >> You don't have to show ID right now, no sir. >> All right, sir. How's that? >> That's incorrect actually, you know what >> How is it? Is it? So your sergeant's wrong. So your sergeant's wrong? So your sergeant's Cuz I was just threatened with arrest for not providing identification violation of fourth amendment. >> All right, sir. But now we're clear on what's going on, right? >> Is he? >> Are we all clear? >> Is he clear? Cuz I'm clear and you're clear. Very good, sir. Thank you. telling me what you're doing? >> Just when everything seemed to be clarified, the situation suddenly shifted in a different direction. It was no longer just a debate, but a series of developments that make viewers question what's really happening behind the scenes and whether the story is truly over. By the way, officer, your name and badge number, please? >> I don't know. Not right now, sir. >> Uh excuse me. Is it in your policy to identify yourself? You You engaged me. Sergeant, is it his policy to identify himself to me? >> That's That's Officer Michelle, uh badge number 369. >> Sergeant Ruiz, badge number 339. >> Appreciate it. >> Those officers' badge numbers and names? >> Uh they didn't contact me. That's fine. >> All right. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. Walk of shame. Walk of shame. Very disappointed in Toms River. There we are. And there is old glory flying high and proud in the face of tyranny. Didn't quite catch that officer's name on video. I'll go back and uh and verify it. Sergeant was very professional. My uh My best regards to the sergeant. Well done, sir. And uh to the officer who questioned me, remember your oath, learn the law, learn your place. Remember who you serve. You are here to protect my rights, not to impo- After all the tension and initial threats, everything ended in a way no one expected. No handcuffs, no charges, just a situation that leaves viewers wondering. 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