Head of security just said I could use the sidewalk. Head of security just said I could use the sidewalk. >> Go talk to them. They called. Why you come right at me asking for my ID? >> What isn't normal? >> To wear a mask and looking at a I understand, but I just need to make sure everything's okay. Do you have an identification on you? >> Do you have an identification? >> I do. I'm officer file. >> No, like your actual ID card where it shows your address. >> Show your ID. What is really happening when authority is exercised without a clear reason? They just asked me to leave. You can't keep me here from being No. Sir, you're not getting my ID here. Is this your supervisor? >> Trespass. Well, we need your information. Nope. Nope. I got to talk to you. We need your information. Trespassing from the bank. >> I've never been on their property >> today. Let's watch officers who don't understand the law flex their authority and face a bitter [music] ending. A man simply stands on the sidewalk and turns on his camera. No warning signs, no barriers. Yet within minutes, his right to walk and record is suddenly called into question. >> You're not allowed to film the property, sir. >> I'm not on your property. >> Yeah, technically you are. The sidewalk is ours. >> It's not marked. There's nowhere that says private property besides on the fence. >> Yeah. >> So, I mean, you guys let people come up and turn around in here. If you didn't want people even entering here, you'd have you'd have a gate right there. >> Yeah. It's it's not about that. Um, it's just about filming the property management. >> So, so want anybody filming? >> So, people can actually come through here, but it's just the filming part, >> right? >> Okay. That's that's doesn't work. >> It doesn't work. >> No. The constitutional right. I can film from wherever I'm allowed. >> Okay. What's your name, sir? >> I don't answer questions. >> Okay. >> Sidewalk and you can stay on either side of the sidewalk. Okay. >> You just can't go onto the property. >> And you can stay on either side of the sidewalk. >> You just can't go onto the property. >> Okay. And the the property is clearly marked, right? >> You see that sign right there? >> Exactly. So, you agree with me? >> I do. >> All right. So, public can walk through. >> You can go right ahead. >> Correct. >> Okay. I'm just telling you this is private property. >> It's not marked. >> It's not clouded by the town. >> Only at the fence is marked. >> It's not clouded by the town. >> It doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. You take care of the roads, but it's still accessible to the public. I know the laws, sir. >> Yeah. On a vehicle. License >> cuz I have a camera. >> No. No. >> She just said I can walk through. So she's wrong. You're telling me on camera she's wrong? >> He's the property manager. >> So she's wrong. >> No, no, no. I'm just telling you that this is not public. This is not public. >> It's not a public way. Security and property representatives admit the public is allowed to use the sidewalk. But the situation quickly shifts as police arrive, repeating contradictory claims, turning the line between public and private into something disturbingly unclear. >> Just said it. Head of security just said I could use a sidewalk. Head of security just said I could use the sidewalk. >> He said the only problem is that I'm filming. I'm >> No, absolutely not. I'm not. There's no crime being committed. >> You're not allowed here, sir. >> Sir, they just said I'm able to walk the sidewalks. >> They just said it. >> Go talk to them. They called. Why you come right at me asking for my ID? >> Seriously? >> Where's your ID? >> I don't need to give you it. Unless you think I've committed a crime, >> I don't need to give I do. I think you trespass. >> I'm not trespassing. They just told me I'm welcome here. They just told me I can come on the sidewalk. I have it on film, sir. >> Okay. Did you hear that? >> Yeah, fine. I'll leave. >> Before you leave, I want you right now. >> No. Now they asked me now. No. Now they asked me to leave. I have to leave. Now they Sir, they asked me to leave. Now I leave. But Sir No, sir. >> They just asked me to leave. You can't keep me here from being No, Sir, you're not getting my ID here. Is this your supervisor? >> Sir, they just said I can walk the sidewalk. The only issue is they don't want me filming. It's my first amendment to film. No, wherever I'm welcome to walk. >> You're not allowed here. >> They just said I'm welcome to walk the sidewalk. Sir, >> they don't want you here. I need your ID. >> Are you the sergeant? You a supervisor? >> What's your What's your social security number? >> Sir, you're not getting any of that information. >> Okay, then we'll be here all day. >> Okay, cool. Where is the sergeant? Where's the supervisor? >> You're not going to r me in. Police confront him directly and demand identification despite citing no specific crime or unlawful behavior. And when the man chooses to leave to avoid escalation, the situation does not calm down. On the contrary, it crosses into another boundary, the boundary of control. >> Issue is that I'm filming. If the public is accessible to walk the sidewalk, you can film from wherever you are accessible. >> That's correct. You don't want to be here >> because I'm filming >> for the local residents if they want to walk their dogs up or or whatever. But if it's an unwanted person doing that kind of activity, we don't backpack. We've had a lot of intelligence. >> That doesn't matter, sir. >> So, this is all private property, >> sir. It's publicly accessible. She just said it. She just said even the locals are welcome to. All right. So, if >> they make exceptions to all >> Yeah. If you if you want to play by their rules on their property, then they'll allow you here, but you're not playing by their rules, sir. So, you got to leave, >> sir. All right. I will. I'll leave. I'll leave. Thank you. Told you. >> That's our property over there, too, sir. So, you can't go that way. >> Yeah. You can't go that way. So, head that way. >> I can't go there and take out walk out. Nope. >> All right. You guys, that's discrimination, man. You You can't let just some people through and others not. >> They can do that. >> No, they can't. It's publicly accessible. Yes, it is. I have it on film. >> Where'd you get your law degree? >> You don't need a law degree to know your rights and laws, sir. >> Sir, can I get your name and badge number? >> Sergeant Carrie. I don't have a bad >> Carrie. Is that with a K? >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Sir, don't touch me. >> Keep walking. >> That's assault. >> Don't touch me. >> Keep walking, buddy. >> Sir, don't touch me. You're just cuz you didn't get my ID. >> I told you. I know the I know the laws, you [ __ ] >> University. >> I know the laws. >> Yep. There you go. >> Yeah. Google University. Get out of here with you >> for a walk, bud. >> Yeah. Police issue threats of arrest and warn that returning will lead to detention, making it seem less like clear law enforcement and more like a display of authority built on shaky legal grounds as the man leaves to avoid escalation. Yet, one officer continues to follow him. No arrest, but no peace either. >> Minutes later. >> All right. So, you understand you come back again, you'll be arrested. >> I don't understand anything you say. >> All right. Seems like >> I don't stand on anything that you say. I stand on top of the Constitution. So, what we got here? At least $200, $300,000 scenar. >> It's publicly accessible, sir. >> It's private property. >> There's not one that says private property anywhere on here. >> It doesn't matter. >> That controls the access. Therefore, >> it doesn't matter. We informed you that's private property. That means you had >> It doesn't matter. >> You were told it was private property so you had >> Yeah. Anyone can tell me anything. >> All right. Sounds good. >> It doesn't mean it's true. >> There's no issue. >> They said the public can come through here. They even said on camera I can walk through here. >> The only problem is is me filming. If a if public can stand on a sidewalk, if public can stand on a sidewalk. >> I don't know why you're going to make this into an issue. There's no issue. >> There is an issue cuz I shouldn't have been told to move. >> It's private property. >> It's not. It's publicly accessible. They can't just pick and choose and they can't. No, they can't. No, they can't. >> Can you Can you not pick and choose who comes into your house? >> In my house? Yeah, >> absolutely. Yes. This company can >> This is a roadway. This is a >> It's a private road. Private property. >> No. If they If they have it accessible to anyone in the public, they can't just discriminate anyone else from the public. >> They're not discriminating. >> Yes, they are. It's because I'm filming. No, it's cuz I'm filming. That's the only behavior. My >> I'm going to be here until you guys leave. So, if you leave, I'm out of here. >> That's how it works. I'm working all day, so I'm probably not going anywhere. >> Wow. You have this much time to waste. >> No, I got >> for a photographer. >> I got more important stuff to do. >> Then go do it, sir. Unfortunately, >> your time. >> Then go do it. I'm not. I'm doing everything lawful. So, you're sitting here a law enforcement officer. Now, I'm enforcing a law. >> No, I am. You're >> No, you're not. I wasn't trespassing. They told me I could walk the sidewalk. Literally, they told me I could walk the sidewalk. >> And you can stay on either side of the sidewalk. >> You just can't go onto the property. And I have it on film. >> But then they they changed their mind. >> Okay. And then I left. >> Okay. So I wasn't trespassing. >> So I wasn't trespassing. >> No issue. Then why? >> So I wasn't trespass. If there's no issue, why are you still here? >> Because you're very confrontational. >> Because I can't believe you're wasting this much time and resources on someone that's doing something lawful. Police are unable to identify clear legal boundaries, yet continue to follow and threaten the citizen with arrest, revealing contradictions and abuse of power in law enforcement. Citizens may file a lawsuit against police under section 1,983 when their rights are violated and officers found in violation may face civil liability, disciplinary action, or termination. Up next, just standing on the sidewalk doing nothing more than looking into a window. But seconds later, police lights flash. What made something so small suddenly escalate? >> All right, guys. We got a uh police officer here following me for no reason. He got out of the vehicle when I was simply just standing there and uh looks like he's just uh >> following me. You have a mask and you're looking in the bank. I just need to talk to you. Make sure you're okay. >> Make sure everything's okay. >> What were you doing looking in the bank? >> Huh? >> I don't know. >> You don't know? >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Just so you know, we're audio and video recording, too. >> That's cool. That's cool. >> All right. What's your name? >> Huh? >> What's your name? >> Mike. >> Mike. >> Mike Hawk. >> Mike Huck. [laughter] >> Hey, we do need to talk though. Nah, I'm good. >> Huh? >> I'm good. >> No, I mean I I saw you looking in the bank. I need to talk to you and figure out my good spot. >> No, I'm good, man. >> Yeah, guys. Uh simply just standing on the uh public sidewalk here. Uh and this gentleman, he uh he was trying to stop me, sir. >> I don't know what for what time. And now he's trying to talk to me. And >> what? >> Hey, look. If you're looking in a bank and you got a mask on. >> Okay. >> What about it? >> That's not normal activity. >> What isn't normal >> to wear a mask and looking in a window? >> Yeah. Yeah. Just standing here, man. Nothing's wrong with that. >> When I passed by, you were looking in the window at the bank. >> What's wrong with looking in a window? >> I mean, that wouldn't be normal activity walking by a bank. >> If I see something in the window and I want to look, I can see it. I can look at it. 49. Are you guys >> police approach with a vague justification, labeling unusual behavior and turning the right to remain silent into [music] non-ooperation. Then one question is repeated again and again. What's your name? And from that moment, a voluntary conversation begins to slide in a very different direction. >> I understand, but I just need to make sure everything's okay. Do you have an identification on you? >> Do you have an identification? >> I do. I'm off. No, like your actual ID card where it shows your address. >> Yeah, I'm fine. Just got an uncooperative subject. >> He says I'm uncooperative, guys. >> All right. Well, I'm going to go back to doing what I was doing. >> What were you doing? >> I don't know. You tell me. Look, we're talking. Okay. >> 6049. Do you come? I am not here to harass anybody, but if I look at somebody looking into the window at the back, that's concerning. You could understand that, correct? >> No, not really. >> No. >> No. Not wearing a mask looking in. >> Nope. Nope. Sure isn't, man. Not in this Not in this uh day and age. >> Not in this day and age. >> Yeah. That's your favorite [clears throat] line, this day and age, you know? >> I'm not sure what you're talking >> with all the 911 calls, terrorists, all that stuff. >> I hear you. >> Yeah, there she is right there, guys. You know him? >> I don't think so. >> Okay. He just turned his video camera and towards you and said there she is. So I didn't know. >> Oh >> no. >> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate you. >> Oh man. >> Yeah. Guys, she definitely knows who I am. She's >> Who is she to you? >> Huh? >> Who is she to? >> Oh, I can't answer that. There's a lot of things I can't answer, man. >> Why is that, man? >> Yeah. Why'd you turn on your lights? to let you know that I was needing to speak with you. >> So, you turn on your lights to speak with people? >> Yes. >> You can't just come up to them and talk to them without turning your lights on. >> That's how it activates my camera. >> Oh, okay. The legal process is flipped on its head. ID is demanded first while a lawful reason is searched for later. But the problem is the man never set foot on private property. More officers arrive. The demand for identification is repeated and a new concept suddenly enters the conversation. Trespass. >> Trespass. Well, we need your information. Nope. I got to talk to you. We need your information to trespassing from the bank. >> I've never been on their property. >> Well, we're going to confirm that. So, >> you've already Yeah. You're blocking my way. >> Hey. Hey. The manager would like you trespass. >> Oh, that's cool. That's cool. No, I don't. >> No, we don't. >> No. No, I don't. We do. >> Legally, I don't, man. >> We in order to trespass you, we need >> You tell me that I can't go on the property and that's the end of it. >> No. Yeah, that's how it works. >> We need to be able to document him because then we would never know. >> You're documenting by saying this gentleman uh is on with never on their property. And that's not how it is how it works, man. >> Why Why are you >> This You're the chief. >> Why are you being so >> What's your name? >> A man exercising his rights is being uncooperative. >> Yes, you are being uncooper. >> How How is that? >> You're creating a You're >> Say the word disturbance. I dare you. I already know. I already know how it goes, guys. You don't know what I used to do. You don't know what I currently do. >> Then why are you doing this? >> Cuz I can't. And I have a right to. >> Okay. Because you're trying to >> So I was standing I was standing on the corner on my cell phone. I looked and turned towards the uh window not doing anything. So anybody who looks towards a bank window is is suspicious. >> Yes, it is. >> With the mask on. It's cold outside. I have my mask on all day. >> She said you were videotaping inside the bank and she was >> just now. Just now. Yeah. >> Okay. That >> So what? Are you trespassing my eyeballs? >> She would like to trespass from the bank. >> Are you trespassing my eyeballs? for trespassing you from the property. >> I was never on their property. So, how are you going to do that? >> Okay. >> I mean, this is their property. That's >> So, this is a public easement. Public ride away. Yeah. Public right away. >> So, here's my thing, >> man. Are you guys educated or not? >> You're trying to create problems. >> Oh, we we already created it. Yeah, we already created the problems. >> No, you did this. >> No, no, you guys did it because I was just standing there. I didn't even have my camera out or anything. I was just on my phone. The law is no longer used to protect order, but to justify a decision that was already made. Authority is maintained through pressure, not legal grounds. And when trespass no longer holds up, another justification appears. Not because of a violation, but because of reasonable suspicion. >> We're just trying to get your information, man. >> Yeah. You're not getting my information. Yeah. I haven't been on their property, so >> I know the laws, man. I don't have to give you anything. >> Look, if you're not up to anything, we're not here to be [ __ ] >> You already been see somebody looking in the bank during the business. >> I'm going to go look in the bank again. >> There's nothing you can do about it. >> So, you've been trespassed. If you go back and you look in the bank window again, >> I'm not on their property. I'm not on their property. >> What are you going to trespass my eyeballs? >> Wow. >> What's your badge number? >> What's your badge number? >> I give you a business card. >> I don't need your business card. Yeah. All >> I got it all right here. That's all that matters. >> I don't need it. >> Okay. >> Yeah, you can save it [music] for somebody else, man. >> You still have failed to say what the problem is. Looking inside of a business is not uh nothing. >> Reasonable suspect. >> It's not >> I do I I would absolutely >> Looking inside of some I could come to your house and look inside your house from a sidewalk all day long. >> There's nothing you can do, man. >> Have a problem then. >> No, we won't. >> Yeah. >> So, if I'm standing on a public sidewalk looking at your house, filming your house. There there is going to be a problem >> between you and I personally. Yes. >> No, it wouldn't be personally. >> It would be. >> Ah, I don't know what that means. All right. Yeah, guys. So, uh, as you guys can see that they are trying to get my information without me being [music] on their propert. I was on their property >> and they wanted me trespassed. >> Understand? >> Say it. Why? Why do you understand then? How do you understand? By repeatedly demanding identification and threatening coercive [music] measures without a specific crime or clear reasonable suspicion, the incident reflects police abuse [music] of authority and a mislication of constitutional principles protecting individual liberty and freedom from arbitrary detention. On January 1st, 2021, Jamal Sutherland, a 31-year-old black man with mental illness, was forcibly removed from his jail cell to attend a court hearing. And it was the police themselves who escalated the situation into chaos. >> CDO Captain Great House has been notified. Judge is stating that he needs to be in front of the judge. So has full operational control for the extraction. Medical is standing by on scene. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I got back here. >> Spoon in his hand. >> Yeah. You still got the spoon in his hand? >> Yeah. We did vapor out of my >> sir. Do you have kennel? I mean >> kennel deployment. >> I haven't done it yet. >> I haven't even done it yet. I want to make sure the camera >> and drop the spoon. Come to the door. >> Drop the spoon. Come to the door. Believe >> I'm lost. >> Come to the door. Drop the spoon. >> Do what you going to do. Do what you going to do. >> Probably another one. You got another one there. >> I might check it the top or bottom. >> Come to the door. We'll get you out of there. >> Hey, drop the spoon. Come to the door. >> An officer moved in to arrest him, even though he displayed no signs of resistance. What seemed like a routine removal quickly turned into a violent episode. >> Stop. Still got in you. Loosen up. Loosen up. Officer. >> Hey. 437. [screaming] Put your hand behind the door. Put your hand back. Stop going. >> Get another one. Get another car. >> Can you give me a >> hand? Give me a hand. GIVE ME A HAND. >> GIVE ME A HAND. You need a hand. >> Hey, you want another pair? >> You got it. >> Yeah. >> No, no, no. Excuse me. All right. Give us a second. >> What's your name? Good. Yep, we're good. >> The officers deployed a taser multiple times, even after Sutherland had ceased resisting, revealing their excessive use of force. >> I got it. >> Put your taser up. >> Put your taser up. Stop. Stop. Stay down. >> Y'all want to slide him out? >> Put a chair. >> Yeah, it's right here. >> Take this off. behind behind. Come on. I need this nurses. >> Hey, nurses up. >> Stop. What is this thing? >> Stop. >> Stop. There. Two pills out here that need to come out. >> There's two pillows on the front. You can get on this [ __ ] >> Thank you. Get inside. No. No. Do you want me to put him in the chair and get him done? >> In South Carolina, denying medical care to inmates can be deemed a violation of the ETH amendment if it involves deliberate indifference. Estelle [music] v. Gamble. State law also mandates that jails provide necessary medical care to inmates. Come on. He's probably >> Hey, will you check him? You check him. >> Look at that face. >> Is he all right? >> He sees him. >> Huh? >> Oh. Breathing twice. >> More than >> I had him before me. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> After being subjected to pepper spray, repeated taser shocks, and [music] physical restraint, Jamal Sutherland became unresponsive and was later pronounced dead. The two officers [music] involved were fired, but not criminally charged. In 2023, Charleston County agreed to a $10 million 0 settlement with Sutherland's family. Jamal Sutherland's death [music] reminds us that mentally ill individuals deserve care, not force. When compassion is absent in custody, justice [music] becomes hollow, and society loses its humanity. A just society is not measured by how obedient its citizens are, but by its ability to restrain power, respect human dignity, and protect individual rights, even in the smallest situations. [music] Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? 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