Why are you taking pictures of the facility like this, sir? It's not unlawful. But why are you doing >> I don't answer any questions regarding that. >> Why is that? What's going on here, sir? Uh the police have an investigation going on and I'm asking you to move back behind where the tree is just to give us room to do our work. Just a few minutes of conversation on the sidewalk in what seemed like routine procedure requests suddenly turned into threats of arrest. I think you're the one causing You're the one blocking the lane of traffic here, sir. >> you? Oh, I think you I think if it's not moving, you're blocking the vehicle. Sir, it doesn't matter what you just said. I'm asking you to do something that I can ask you to do lawfully. I'm not telling you to quit recording. >> You can ask me. >> you When power goes beyond the law, the consequences are no longer just words exchanged, but a price paid in honor and public trust. Just minutes after appearing outside the jail gates in Oakland County, the dialogue began to heat up. A struggle without shouting, yet thick with tension, was slowly coming into view. Gathering intelligence. Gathering intelligence. I'm just curious. You have a nice day, all right? >> All right. Waiting around for a man. After a barrage of pointed questions and firm refusals to answer, the atmosphere outside the jail gates in Oakland County grew heavier. And then, it was no longer just a conversation. When the order to leave was issued, the positions on both sides began to collide head-on. Hey, my man. Can I talk to you for a minute? No, thanks. I'm not No. No, I'm good. Thank you. Why are you on a secure area here taking pictures? This is a public easement. Do you know what a public easement is? It is a public easement. Why are you taking pictures of the facility like this, sir? >> unlawful. But why are you I don't answer any questions regarding that. >> Why is that? >> [music] >> I'm just having a conversation with you. I'm just, you know, questioning you why. This is a secure facility. You know, these are employees' cars you're taking pictures of like this. >> you Have you encountered this kind of thing before? A number of times. I know. You're famous on YouTube. >> I know that. I've seen myself on YouTube. So you know that this is lawful? >> I'm I'm very honest. I'm very All I want to do is is ask you why you're on the facility taking pictures and recording. Is that That's That's honest enough, isn't it? I'm going to be on my way. You guys take it easy. Why don't you just keep walking and get off the facility, all right? Oh, maybe I'll stay. Now that you mention it, you're right. Maybe I'll stay a little bit. Maybe you just need to leave, all right? Is that intimidation? >> You're You're causing a nuisance is what you're doing. I think you're the one causing You're the one blocking the lane of traffic here, sir. Blocking you? Oh, I think I think if it's not moving, you're blocking it. You know, maybe I'm not a genius, but I It's, you know What's What's your purpose here, ma'am? Well, my purpose here is to ask you why you're confronting me. I'm just going to stay Take it up. I get a call for No, you know what? Yeah, I I would keep your distance, sir. >> a call for suspicious individual taking pictures of a secure facility. Uh-huh. Is that unlawful? I'm just asking you why you're >> Is it unlawful? I'm just asking you why you're here. >> Yeah, I told you I'm not answering questions. >> Are you taking pictures of our license plates, employees' license plates, which are deputies? >> I'm going to remain silent at this moment. You let me know when I'm free to go. My name is Sergeant Mayor. What is your name, sir? I'm right here. What's your name, sir? When the order to leave was given without any clear accusation, the contradiction became impossible to ignore. Questions about identity, true intent, and even the shadow of a potential charge began to surface. At that point, the tension was no longer just an exchange of words. It had become a test of the limits of authority and civil rights. We just asked you what your business is. Is that all? Why are you on the property? We just want to know why you're taking pictures of the police's license plates. Which are deputies that are parked in the employee parking lot. As I said, not answering questions. You just let me know when I'm free to go. Yeah, we've been telling you to go. We wish you would go. Yeah, go ahead. Our purpose is gone. Yeah, go on. I might just do that. I might just do that. just stay here for I might just stay here for a minute. I'm free to film as long as I'd like. Thank you. Have a nice day. So you're just going to stand here and film us and film the jail? >> I don't answer any questions. >> answer any questions? What's your What's What's your name? You live in the area? Yeah, take your hand out of your pocket. Just Just for your sanity, I will. Do you have any idea how much longer you're going to be here? As long as I feel like it. As long as you feel like it, eh? Yeah. All right. Could be all night for all we care. Well, you don't answer questions, but I will pose this to you. Do you think it's a little weird and creepy that somebody comes up and takes pictures of your license plate at your place of employment? You guys are public servants. Nice try. And that differs how? We don't feel weird and creeped out by somebody taking pictures of our plates. >> See, I didn't know. I thought that I wasn't the one that was paid to do that, but that's you. You're the one that's paid You're the one that's paid to run plates. So not you personally, perhaps, but the establishment of law enforcement. It's your job to be the ones running plates. Why can't I do the same in return? I don't think you're running our plates, sir. I think I can collect this information. I can go to SOS with it if I'd like. The officers began pressing hard on identity, on the true purpose behind the camera. Rapid-fire questions, subtle implications of disorderly conduct, and growing irritation became increasingly visible. Nothing had cooled down. Instead of ending, the argument shifted into even sharper territory as both sides began invoking rights and the law. Thank you. All right, then what's your name? Yeah. Come on, you're with it. You're smiling at me. >> You know that that's the one I'm definitely not going to answer. Why? Because it's I'm sorry. Totally Totally forgot. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Well, because you already You already have facial recognition software. It's okay. You don't really need my name. I'm not stupid. You don't need my name. No, I would like your name. It's not that hard to find. Thank you. Do you know what disorderly conduct is? Yes, I also know that this does not qualify because a First Amendment right to film cannot be converted into a crime. Disorderly con No, ma'am. Facebook? No, ma'am. Some social media? >> It is not the sole purpose of this. >> Are you looking for a lawsuit? No. Then what is your purpose? I can keep guessing and guessing, but you can answer my question. >> As I told Mr. Nark McNark over there, to collect [music] intelligence. Is this the only place you're collecting intelligence is here on our property? Guess you'll have to find out. Well, we would like it if you would just move on. Did you finish taking the pictures that you would like? If you If you were asking me as a human being as a nice human being to me, you know, there's nothing wrong with this, but please move along. That is something far more likely to motivate me It's just that we get I've gotten three calls now on suspicious person filming Sorry. filming the jail. You know, it goes on and on and on. If you would just leave, it'd be so much easier. That would kick this whole thing off. Perhaps. Now what if what if people were informed that this was lawful and by the person Well, maybe if the person calling I think that you guys are causing the disturbance. I mean, good lord. Now two vehicles, make that three. You know, I >> [snorts] >> You know, it's just a It's just a It's a jail. It's just a secure area. You have a habit of repeating yourself, sir. Do you know that? You have a habit of repeating yourself. You cross multiple videos, you repeat yourself. I I mean, this is backwards. Repeated mentions of suspicious person calls echoed in the background while the cameraman held his ground, insisting that everything he was doing was lawful. No handcuffs, no formal charges, yet before leaving, a loaded statement was made, almost like a final verdict on how the entire situation had been handled. You'll [music] need to be informed, sir. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and this is perfectly lawful. This This is public property. You have every right as long as you don't go into the the parking lot. You stay this side of the You can go on the sidewalk. Yeah, if you have business here, take care of your business. I have already taken care of my business. That's what it's for. It's It's served for here. You got records here. You got all these different, you know, county facilities for the public to use. >> I've already visited a facility for what you would call legitimate business. You take your camera out, you start filming the jail, and you start filming deputies' And good god, you guys come out here and waste your own damn time doing this. It's amazing. It's a waste of time. >> Yeah, absolutely it is. I have to clear the call. You've clearly probably figured out by this point what this is. This is a public service audit, and you have failed once again. Once again? Yes. Any new information? Okay. Well, I appreciate appreciate the time, so. Pleasure. My name is James. Nice to meet you, James. But you were going to figure that out eventually. Someone in there would have pulled up all the proper files. It's okay. But again, you have a good day, Sergeant Mayor. Okay. Yeah, some things are worth our time. No, I and I completely understand that, too. At the same time, I've experienced what you would call a waste of time in the past. >> sergeant. All right. Thank you. You guys have a nice day. Up next, a request to step back a few feet may have seemed harmless, but it ignited a heated confrontation. As the man insisted he was standing on a public sidewalk, officers raised the possibility of handcuffs. Are you walking through? Just so you know, you're being recorded. And if you could do me a favor and just stay back behind where that tree is at, we got stuff going on here. Sweet. So like if you could move back until you're behind where that tree is. What's going on here, sir? Uh the police have an investigation going on, and I'm asking you to move back behind where the Just just to give us room to do our work. You don't need to intimidate me. I'm not trying to >> This is a simple request. I'm waiting for you to give me a simple request to just move back about three steps, and then you'll be in compliance with what we need. Um can I have your uh business card? >> can, but I'm going to have you move back first. >> Actually, Sir, um Are you failing to Are you failing to comply with me asking you to do that because >> it's a simple request. It is a simple request. >> Excellent. Your simple request is denied. Okay. There's nothing here that that you're observing as a officer safety or any of that sort, and moving literally 2 ft back doesn't change a thing of what you need to be doing. What What we need to be doing is be able to feel safe that you aren't right behind us while we're doing our work. What did I just say? How far is your vehicle? Where's your vehicle? >> Sir, it doesn't matter what you just said. I'm asking you to do something that I can ask you to do lawfully. I'm not telling you to quit recording. I'm asking you >> You can ask me, but it doesn't mean that it's a lawful order. So your your simple request your request is denied. Sir, I'm on public I'm on public sidewalk. Acknowledge that this is a public sidewalk. No. The female The female The female officer that just said, "Am I passing through?" meaning After the tense standoff over stepping back a few feet, the situation appeared to settle when the man stood exactly where officers told him to. But that calm was only on the surface. In the next moments, the tone sharpened. It was no longer about maintaining a safe distance. It had escalated into accusations of abuse of authority. Uh well, if you don't want to move back, you will be detained. Why don't you move back? Because I've asked you to a couple times. >> Right. And And I And I denied your request cuz this is nothing that's going on. >> So are you passing through or are you >> If I choose to If I choose to Yes, can I have your card? As soon as you Let me Let me have your card. I can Sir, what we're going to do then is we're just going to put you in handcuffs. There's nothing that There's nothing that needs to be put in handcuffs. Well, W- Where do you want me to stand? >> I said behind where this tree is at. So So under threat under threat of arrest, you tell me I have to comply with your unlawful order, your request. >> Show me exactly the line where you want me to stand. Take another step back. Right here? Right there. Right there. >> If any of your asses move close to me, I'm going to consider every single one of you to be a threat. Don't intimidate me. Here is my card. Do not intimidate me. All right. And if any of your asses tell me I don't have a right to move, and when I decide that I'm going to move forward, your asses better be where you are at. Understood? Shut the hell up already. Shut the hell up. I'm already right here. Right here. This is the line. Shut the hell up, sergeant. Shut the hell up and get to your jobs. Apparently, there's nothing going on Is it just to harass and intimidate a law-abiding citizen exercising his constitutional rights? Am I correct? Piss off. That's right. Piss off. Now you're all done. Piss off. Nothing is HERE GOING ON. PISS OFF. NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE AROUND as I please, pieces of crap. You got another complaint? Get the hell out of here. Thank you, sir. You're welcome, guy. Prob Prob He's telling you. Nobody wants to hear your annoying ass voice like Don't worry about it. It's freedom of speech. Just like yours. Just like yours. >> [laughter] >> I could have saved your ass if you would have been respectful, dude. I could have. I could have. Cuz you see Cuz you see, guy, now you're on the other side. I could have saved your ass cuz I am not afraid of these [ __ ] After being forced to step back under the pressure of possible handcuffs, the man did not stay silent. Accusations of threats and constitutional rights violations began echoing at the scene. But in the moments that followed, things escalated even further. You got your day, teeny? Open the roads and stop impeding traffic. Piss off. I don't care now why. Cuz you know criminals, you're tyrants. Because you guys are tyrants. That's why I'm angry. That's why I'm redressing my grievances. Did I have a bad experience with police? You damn right I just had a bad experience with police. How about prior to that? Maybe you should figure out why I'm like this. Figure it out. You're sergeant. Right? Use your brain. Are you a sergeant? Do you know how to use your brain? Good. What did you have figured out so far? Well, did you see what happened here? Are you agreeing with what happened here? When I was standing freely on a public sidewalk exercising my constitutional rights without interfering? And all of you All of you, half a dozen to a lab, came in to intimidate me and threaten to arrest me. For what? Because I declined I declined to comply with the request. What's your name? Business card. Oh, I will demand it cuz you're my public servant. You get that? That's the difference. I'm the master, you're the public servant. I'm the master, and you're the public servant. You're here to serve my needs. What do you do for work? What? Oh, yes, we did establish that. You are here to harass and intimidate and unlawfully arrest law-abiding citizens who are exercising and defending their constitutional rights, which you clearly don't like and don't respect and don't honor your oath. Oh, I don't feel that way. I've established that as a fact on record. Get lost. You're free to go. You're dismissed. Get lost. You're blocking the roadway. There's a vehicle right there that is attempting to pass freely. You have no more business here. Turn off your emergency lights and get going. I'm actually in the car. Once the suspect had been restrained and the scene no longer appeared urgent, the argument flared up in a different direction. The focus shifted to identity, accountability, and the duty of transparency within law enforcement. When the request for badge numbers and business cards was made, the confrontation moved to an entirely new level. You're still here? All right. All right. Let's see if anybody else got some balls to intimidate me anymore. You're still here? What's the emergency now? What's the emergency? Huh? Cool. And what authority does he have to tell me I I got to do anything? You can tell me anything you want. I don't care. You, too, piece of crap. You can tell me What do you want to tell me now? Nothing? No more threats of arrest? No more intimidation? What happened to you, guy? What happened? How come he's not being transferred? You're not going to get any closer to the car. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You see, it free. It's free. He's already in custody. There's no more investigation. >> think you understand You can kiss my ass. You can kiss my ass. I will go wherever I choose to. You don't like it, go ahead and arrest me now for freedom of speech. Go ahead. Go ahead now. Arrest me. I'll go wherever the hell I want. One foot forward, one foot back. Wherever the hell I want. Understood? Understood? This is a public street. This is America, and your tyrant pieces of crap are not going to do [ __ ] Got it? That's the voice of a courageous American who's sick and tired of this tyranny. Now, before anybody has left, identify [music] yourself. Right here. No, it's not right here. ID number. Badge number. 36623 You. Hey. You. Come here. You are required by law, and you're required by your policy. You are required by law and by your policy. You are required by law and by your policy. And you're going to find out. >> No one was placed in handcuffs. No charges were announced. Yet the heated words, the warnings of arrest, >> [music] >> and the accusations of abuse of authority still lingered. A citizen may file a lawsuit under Section 1983 [music] if their rights are violated. Officers found in violation could face financial [music] liability, disciplinary action, or even termination. A civilized society is not measured by how many confrontations are captured on camera, but by how conflicts are resolved within the framework of the law with mutual [music] respect. 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