did I say I didn't belong over here I don't I don't live over here okay you're obstructing an officer from do his so now you're under somebody has called in that shut up somebody has called first off you don't tell me to shut up I'll tell you what I want to tell you okay you're not going to tell me to shut up I'm 47 48 I'll be 48 care how old you are you're not going to sit there and tell me to shut up here's the deal man' there is no deal I'm trying to I don't answer questions on March 22nd 2019 Kenneth Grant an insur insance adjuster was parked legally on a public Road in Blanchard Oklahoma when officer Haynes approached him without any evidence of a crime just a vague call about a suspicious vehicle Oklahoma law doesn't require you to identify yourself unless there's Reasonable Suspicion and there's no compelled ID Statute in Oklahoma unless specific criminal activity is suspected Grant knew this and stood his ground refusing to hand over his ID because hannes couldn't point to anything illegal just a ladder in his truck and him being from out of town this was the first crack in the cops case no crime no lawful detention just a Power Trip begging to be dismantled how's it going man good uh you live over here or what's we doing over here got a couple people calling on you okay am I doing something illegal well no they're just calling on you saying that I don't recogniz a truck in the area my duty to check and see if you live over here what's going on over here got for purpose okay all right you working you see you got a ladder in the back you working somewhere yes sir you got driver license on you just I can identify you uh have I done something well I like to identify you just know who I'm dealing with make sure not to show that well if I'm making contact with you for a reason suspicious call like I am right now being suspicious is a Mr okay well sir here's the de I was called on you okay um for a supicious vehicle said yourself you don't live over here if you have a purpose what's your purpose is the purpose legal or illegal that's for you to DET okay so for me to termine that I need to see your ID how is my ID going to determine whether I'm let you know who I'm dealing with let me know who I'm dealing with my name my name doesn't tell you whether I'm yeah it will tell me like if I don't know if you belong over here you said you don't so I don't know if someone over here's got a v or something you did I say I didn't belong over here I don't I don't live over here okay okay I I do belong here all right so that's as far as I'm willing to take it okay so you don't you're not willing to give me your ID I don't have any reason to well what do you have a reason for being over here absolutely okay can I know that reason no it's not none of your business well it is my business if you're planning on breaking into something which I don't know if you are not make that determination whether you feel I'm going to break into something oh that's why I want to identify you to help me figure it out determination how identify okay because if if I identify you and I run your check and it say you've been arrested five times for burglary then I'm going to go a little bit further if it's nothing I'm just going to identify you KCK you lose have a good day but what suspicion of a crime do you think that uh I'm have committed about to commit or I'm going can you start 52 over here so I have a call for service I understand that appreciate you doing your job L people call okay and so if you don't if you're not from here I'm not sure if you are cuz I don't know who you are okay okay my Plate's right back there I'm sure you can run it no okay how you want me to identify through your plate if that's what you have to do are you the owner of the vehicle do you suspect that I'm not I have no reason to believe you are well I I'm sitting in a truck in front of a house waiting for what with my keys right here okay that's many of your business it is my business business no it's not how why is it your business because I want to make sure you're not going to break into these houses or anything like that do I look like I'm about to break into a house I don't know you have a ladder that's your determination you have to make you have a ladder what could you use a ladder for does having a ladder in the back of your truck make it is that illegal well no but if you've been arrested multiple times perly it could be okay so make that determination I'm trying to get your idea to make that information it's really not that hard all I'm trying to do is identify but I have a Fourth Amendment right if I have not committ a crime you also have a right I also you have the right to ask me anything I'm conducting investigation which I'm currently doing and you don't comply its instruction correct am I being detained I'm asking you a question first before I answer that okay until I know whether or not I'm being detained you are not free to leave at this time okay then I'm being detained I won't answer any questions until I have an attorney present until I actually my lights until you're free to go your tains like a traffic work okay so I don't question you have an IDE on I don't answer questions do you have an Ida on you I don't answer questions I don't commit or uh I don't uh accept any searches or my persons properties papers or fets okay I'm sitting here doing nothing wrong I'm sitting on the side of the road in front of the house public roadway perfectly legal this is public roadway public roadway by the city of Blanchard well I can tell you the road it is it's but it don't by the city of Blanchard what the question I'm asking 251 Summer Valley Road okay what I'm asking you is this own by the city of Blancher the street I have no idea it's a public as accessible roadway these people have to get to it these people have to get to it those are you Mr blanch no not Mr blanch that's not what she said that's what it sound like what it sound like can you repeat that last name please Grant georgean radio distort sometimes clear on Grant so you Mr Grant again I don't answer questions I'm being I'm being detained at this point it's not a big deal I'm just trying to I understand it's not a big deal but with this day and age as you guys put it citizens have to start standing up for their rights or they lose their rights I'm not going to lose your rights at all man I'm just trying to make sure all these people around here live in this neighborhood or safe and I understand and do you have any reason to believe that I'm in I'm here for a nefarious reason do do you think I have any reason to believe that you're not I know why I'm here well if I knew why you're here I'd cut you loose and have a good day but that's none of your business that's that's what you claim that's between me and that me and that policy holder right there look man I'm not trying to argue with you I'm not trying to do you I understand that I'm just trying toy you make sure you're not a wanted murderer somewhere and then I'm going to catch you and I understand that but I have the right I have the right to be secure in my to figure out why you're here make sure your your words not here probably affa definitely need to he's refusing to give me identification and that's your determination you have to make like I said man it's not that big a deal but I have every right to stand up for my rights I understand it I'm not trying to violate your rights in any way sir I understand that I'm trying to do my job you've been very professional and very courteous and I I just have my rights that I I'm going to I'm going to stand by him I serve my country for that purpose I saw the Army sticker and I appreciate yourself but I want to make sure that you're not here for in your words and nefarious reason so that's all is identify you make sure that you're not a wanted murderer or got warrant anything like that then I cut you loose and you have a good day okay you've already ran my plates they gave you the they gave you the information that you needed you can ask them to go ahead and run me through ncic or do you have a date of birth then cuz I have to run it with a name and date of birth I I I'm not going to answer that question as the situation escalated officer Haynes tried to pin a trespassing charge on Grant claiming his truck was partly off the roadway onto private property but Grant had permission from the homeowner to be there Oklahoma statute 211 1835 says whoever shall willfully or maliciously enter the garden yard pasture or field of another after being expressly forbidden to do so or without permission shall be deemed guilty of trespass but Grant wasn't forbidden and no no trespassing signs were posted the cops and trespassing accusation fell apart faster than a house of cards in a tornado Grant wasn't breaking any law and haynes's Bluff was called out by a man who knew his rights the attorney later shredded this in court proving the stop was baseless from the jump so you're you're you're ask you're telling me how I should do my job yet you're not all me I'm standing up for my rights and I understand that like I I haven't done anything wrong I'm doing my job okay I haven't committed I haven't committed a crime I'm sitting here in front of a house which is perfectly legal h well you're not completely on the roadway there sir okay has anybody asked me to move do they have to ask you to move it's private property okay but there it's also a public easement right here oh it is a public cuz this is the city of Blanchard Road so it's a public easement no the side of the road is oh because this is a city of Blanchard Road to therefore make a city what what are you trying to accomplish what I'm trying to also I'm not going to give you my ID okay okay I haven't done anything illegal okay you understand that by not identifying yourself appropriately as requested by the officer is illegal instruction it's that's a secondary charge okay I have to be for you to ID me in the state of Oklahoma M okay I have to be suspected of committing a crime about to commit a crime well you are committing crime you're trespassing I'm not has anybody told me to leave somebody has called in that shut up somebody has first off you don't tell me to shut up I'll tell you what I want to tell you okay you're not going to tell me to shut up I'm 47 48 I'll be 48 how old you are you're not going to sit there and tell me to shut up here's the deal ma'am there is no deal I'm trying to I don't answer questions right you're telling me I don't answer question the right I'm explaining you how we have the right you don't have the right to get my ID if I've done nothing wrong I'm trying to explain to you why we have the right to get you don't have it I'm trying to explain to you why I have it okay will you listen to me there is a call that somebody placed to our Police Department of a suspicious vehicle and person inside that vehicle we therefore have the right to come investigate that by that being by that being the case we are here investigating that and in order and a part of that investigation we can identify you with request your identification ask you may ask all you want and you are also required by law not required by law request I show you the state statute that you're required to do that will you give me your ID absolutely show me the statute give me one second hello hey Travis hey what's up man nothing sorry to bother you I got a random question for you though sum right now um so I got called out to an address uh here BL Summer Valley Road um for a suspicious vehicle gentleman's parked in a black pickup um he he's from Oklahoma City but he won't give me his name and tells me he doesn't have to give me a driver's license cuz he's not done anything wrong he's driving a vehicle well he's parked right now okay technically there's no obligation for him to identify himself I mean unless You' got reasonable suspicion crime well the thing is is I have no reason fici to believe that he's not committing crime because he has a ladder in the back of the truck and he's in front of houses that aren't occupied right now oh I see okay yeah um there's no compelled ID Statute in Oklahoma I have to think about I you have anything else that you get he might be involved in something El with it well just I I'm curious to why a man from Oklahoma City is parked on a dead end Road in Blanchard and uh you know he has no I ask him if he lives here and he says I don't answer questions okay yeah so he asked if he was free to leave and I said No at this time I have my Emergency Equipment activated and I'm trying to investigate what if you're gon Drive Away absolutely you can make enough because you can know he's driving he's operating a motor vehicle but you don't have the violations that's well I fall him out of toal until I get one yeah I mean so the thing is you you don't have a you don't have a complaining party you haven't found an actually press passing all youve got is it got sitting in front of an unide house with a ladder in the back yeah and uh the road he's on is is you know it's one of those not City Blanchard roads but he's he says it's City easan even though he's parked in this person's Yard part of his truck is in the person's ditch line he's like well that's easan I'm like well this is a private road so therefore it's not a city easement buddy right yeah man I don't think you got I don't think you got enough to compel him to give you his ification okay I I know that's I know that's not what you want to hear no that's why I called you instead of just ripping him out of his truck yeah no I'm with you I'm with you [Applause] [Music] I'm is get out come back here and talk to us and questions go ahead and just lock me up [Applause] what what are you arresting him for huh he hasn't violated really a crime de are you investigating a crime or possible crime he's instructing an officer from doing his duty [Applause] right you said you're meeting somebody here in a few minutes legal rights make contact with you based my problem and I don't you're I'm not here to to listen to you I'm here to tell you what's going on okay I don't care if record [Applause] me okay you're obstructing an officer from doing his de so now you're under arrest unless you want to qu okay that's the way goes have a nice when Grant refused to play along Captain Bellamy and chief White rolled up claiming he was obstructing justice by not handing over his ID and within 16 seconds of arriving white ordered his arrest despite zero evidence Oklahoma statute 21540 States any person who willfully delays or obstructs any public officer in the discharge or attempt to discharge any duty of his or her office is guilty of a misdemeanor but here's the kicker there was no lawful duty to obstruct since the detention itself was illegal later in court Grant's attorney took this flimsy charge and torched it showing the cops couldn't use vague statutes to punish someone for exercising their fourth amendment rights the judge agreed and the obstruction threat evaporated like smoke would you like to explain the address and the time on the folder inside your vehicle with the camera I don't answer questions okay you going identify yourself I don't answer questions look man they didn't ask a question can you please take your hands out of your pockets for me thank you look I was I'm trying to do man if you're Pi no big deal we'll get out of here we just got to we got to confirm who you are make sure especially with the camera car make sure you're not doing Peep and to stuff okay not a pi so the only thing you can have a camera for is if you have if you're a pi no that's not what I'm saying so Insurance suggesters aren't allowed to have take photographs damage and stuff are Insurance Jer I possibly might be okay do you have any proof of [Applause] that okay but I mean why do I have to answer questions I'm here for a legal reason investigation I'm I'm not I'm just not questions can I get your date of birth answer the question you're faing to Iden to by law fth Amendment right you are failing to answer questions BR what brus this house what law have I done back for second investig deten okay investigative detention at this time you understand that all your body do you understand that what did I say that I'm under investigative detention what does that mean I'm being detained okay so you're being detained I understand what that means there's a difference between there is correct if you're an insurance rest that's fine we'll identify you we'll make sure you're at the right house kick you loose not a big deal bro well the folder for this house is right there the home owner's not home so she do you have the home owner's name that I contact make sure you're supposed to be yeah but that's none of your business matter of fact if you want to go talk to that neighbor right there he has the garage door to let me into the house so I can get a photograph of the inside of that garage door that's all you had to say from the beginning man I don't have to tell you that don't you guys understand what my rights are nobody said you have to tell us that what we said is that you have to identify yourself you do have to identify yourself but we are here investigating whether or not you have we have recent list to me stop interrupting you ask for my respect I'm asking for yours in return okay we are investigating because somebody called a suspicious vehicle in person in that vehicle okay I'm not done talking within that investigation we can identify You by getting your identification you are required because we are investigating that you may be committing a crime and therefore you must identify yourself what trespassing that's number one okay sir to be trespass time for all we know to deter that's right doing that we have to identify no you don't we do no you can ask for my identification I am not legally required to give it to you except that you no I'm not my attorney has told me so I don't care what your attorney told you you have to identify yourself because we're my are important to me my rights are important to a possible crime is being investigated what crime I just told you arrest me for those two crimes have that you committed those crimes I haven't Comm any crime we have to identify no you don't can you look and am right of the own contct address after the incident grants filed a lawsuit against the police subsequently after the cops cuffed Grant and tried to intimidate him they backed off when a neighbor confirmed he was an insurance adjuster with a legit reason to be there no citation was issued but the damage was done the fourth amendment protects against unreasonable seizures the temporary Detention of a motorist upon probable cause does not violate the Fourth Amendment but without probable cause or Reasonable Suspicion this was a clear violation Grant sued winning over $75,000 in emotional distress and punitive damages exposing the Blanchard P's corruption and forcing them to delete their Facebook page under public backlash his attorney delivered the final blow proving these cops weren't just wrong they were corrupt and justice hit them where it hurts like And subscribe for more police camp stories watch the next recommended video click to watch now oh