I'm not worried about your seat belt. You're interfering with an investigation. >> No, I'm not. Interference. >> What? I've already explained it to you. Interfering with an investigation. >> I'm not interfering by saying leave him alone? I wear my seat belt all the time. Liar. What's your name and badge number? What's your name and badge number? I just stripped a cop of his qualified immunity Monday. >> When authority is used to silence a citizen who understands the law, every wrongful act becomes evidence in a deeply controversial display of abuse of power. >> Okay, I'm stopping you now because somebody back there recording our vehicles, okay? >> I didn't record your I wasn't recording your vehicles. >> That's how it appeared, okay? >> These officers invited us to see the sign. >> It says stop, do not enter. Police vehicles only. >> That's a vehicle. We're not parking here. >> beings. >> We're not parking. >> A baseless demand for ID quickly turned into a tense legal confrontation as signs of police abuse of authority began unfolding right in front of the camera. Just because he said leave him alone, this man suddenly found himself hit with a series of highly questionable accusations as police tried to trap him into violations that never actually existed. What followed quickly spiraled into a tense confrontation. >> Ready? >> Leave him alone. Leave him alone. >> Hey, pull over, man. >> Why? >> You're yelling at us interfering with investigation. >> I got my seat belt off? >> I'm not worried about your seat belt. You're interfering with an investigation. >> No, I'm not. Interference. Physical act. Liar. >> No, it's not. >> What's your name and badge number? >> Step out of the car and pull over right here for me, please. >> For what? >> already explained it to you. Interfering with an investigation. >> interfering by saying leave him alone? By driving by and saying leave him alone? >> Yes, you did, sir. Stop right here for me, everyone. >> You want to You want to bet? That's not interference? >> That is interference. They had to distract themselves. >> Look me up. Look me up. >> I don't need to look you up, man. >> You need to call your sergeant. Call your sergeant right now. Call your sergeant. I want you to call your sergeant. I'm asking for your sergeant. I'm pulling over. Call your sergeant. >> [music] >> How do I call him? Get on the hooks and call your sergeant right now. Listen. I'm ask I'm asking your for your sergeant. Go get him. Okay, you're refusing to get a sergeant. I want your supervisor. How? Where? I can't pull up on the median? Right on, brother. Hey, you want to give me a charge? You want to charge me with something? I'm right here. Yeah. >> After being accused of obstruction, the man was repeatedly ordered out of his vehicle even though police could not provide any clear evidence to support the claim. Instead of handling the situation transparently, officers avoided requests to call a supervisor to the scene. And the direct arguments that followed quickly pushed the encounter into unpredictable territory. >> Hey, I'm here. No, no, they said they want to charge me with something. Huh? All right. Yeah, they're going to charge me with interfering. Yeah. They're going to earn themselves a lawsuit. No, no. Yeah. Later, man. >> Cop just pulled up. Say again? >> Step back to my patrol vehicle for me. >> For what? >> So we can speak. >> Can you get your supervisor? >> No. All right. You want to speak with me, you can call. >> No, I want your supervisor here. >> Out of the vehicle for me, please. >> I'm stepping out. This is an unlawful detainment. You know that? >> You're not detained. I can jail you for interfering with an investigation. >> not true. You can earn yourself a lawsuit like that. >> Come stand right here by my vehicle. >> You can earn a lawsuit like that. What What What infraction did I commit? >> You You can look it up, all right? If you're so familiar with the law >> 901.151. Reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. Hey, sergeant, can you get this guy in check, please? >> Just as the argument seemed to be hitting a dead end, a sergeant finally arrived on scene. But once federal law was brought up against them, the sergeant found himself cornered, unable to produce any evidence of obstruction. And almost immediately, the officers changed their tone, scrambling to justify everything that had happened up to that point. >> My name's Finn, aka White Crispy. All right. >> This is David Sheriff's Office. How can I help you? >> He said that I'm interfering, cuz I drove by, I said, "Hey, that's freedom of speech." My kids yelled out, "Leave him alone." This guy starts saying, "He doesn't have a seatbelt on." That thing goes on before the car does. I always have my seatbelts, habit. Then he starts saying I'm interfering. Interfering is a physical act. Interfering is a physical I'm trying to educate him for >> You're using some kind of condescending terms. I'm pretty sure he's familiar with >> mean that. >> He's been doing this quite a long time. Give me a hug. >> For sure. >> In a Lockwood County, it is actually illegal to panhandle on the side of the roadway. >> I know it's against the ordinance. >> Okay. So, when you say it's freedom of speech, he's actually doing his job that taxpayers requested that he do. That's part of his job. >> Right. >> So, when they are stopped and talking to this guy who's in the middle of the roadway out here panhandling >> Yeah. >> That's part of their job. They're actually legally required to do that. >> Okay. >> Violates county ordinance. So, when you stop to talk to them >> I didn't stop. >> Okay. Well, you stopped here when you tried to flag me down in here. >> Well, he told me to pull over and I didn't have anywhere to pull over. I'm sorry. Don't get upset. I'm just explaining, clarifying. >> The issue is I'm trying to explain something to you. >> Sure, go ahead. I'm sorry. I'll wait my turn. >> You're just trying to make an issue out of something you may not ever understand, which I'm trying to explain to you and you've interrupted me on a couple times. >> And I apologize. >> And then I'll listen to you, okay? So, in the future, if you have a concern about what's going on, there's nothing wrong with calling the sheriff's office. You can call and say, "Hey, can I speak to the supervisor?" Reference whatever I have a concern with and then we will try to answer that. If it's an issue that needs to be addressed, we'll address that issue. But if it's an issue where you're not understanding the law, we need to explain it to you. Just be receptive to the fact, "Okay, maybe I wasn't aware that's the law and that's what their job is." >> All right. I'm not >> After the heated argument over free speech rights, the officers quickly realized this man understood the law extremely well and from that moment on, they appeared increasingly flustered. Constantly searching for new reasons to try and pin other violations on him. >> But in the future, please do not stop in the middle of the roadway when you try to flag me down because if you would have got rear-ended, that's going to be a ticket on you. You can't stop standing in the middle of a public roadway. So, just pull over, get out here and go, "Hey, sir. Can I talk to you when you're done?" and I'll come over here and talk to you. Make sense? >> Yeah. All right. May I >> Yes, sir. >> All right. I didn't stop or slow down. I was going with the flow of traffic. I have it all on dash cam. I never stopped over there. I know that there's a county ordinance on that. We're going to challenge that. It's an unconstitutional ordinance and I was saying with my own freedom of speech, leave them alone. So did my kids. Then this guy with the beard [music] started saying that I had a no seat belt on. That's a lie. That's making a false accusation against me. Then this guy says that I'm interfering. Regardless of your Excuse me. >> Were you told to move on? >> No. >> So nobody told you to move on. You're not involved in this. >> No, sir. I have it all on video. >> Okay. >> Once Once he said that I'm interfering, that's an unconstitutional ordinance that you have. And interfering regard Regardless Regardless of your ordinance >> it's unconstitutional? >> The U.S. Supreme Court. The United >> correct. >> No. No. The United States Supreme Court has ruled on this. Okay. All right. Well, we'll we'll see. Now, aside from that, whether it's a constitution or not, regardless of your ordinance, I still have my freedom of speech and I can yell whatever I want out the window. >> That's fine and he can also tell you to move on down the road and if >> And I did. >> If you refuse to do that while he's in the middle of an investigation, you're now harassing a law enforcement officer conducting >> No. We're not We can't harass. Harass me? Look up harassment. >> Sir >> Nothing I can help >> You're wrong with that again. >> How can I help you? >> Maybe get a lieutenant here >> Not going to >> who understands. >> You can contact the sheriff's office. You can contact your You can contact a judge, whoever you think you need to speak to because it's obvious you're not open to the actual law. >> I've done this for 3 years. I know it's not that long. It's not as long as you guys I have a little bit I'm not trying to harass you, man. That's not what I did to the deputy. That's a false accusation again. >> Sir, I have nothing else to discuss with you. If you want to press >> All right, get back to work. Go Go 10-8. >> Not a single piece of evidence could be produced to support the baseless accusations. And then, after one simple question from the man, the officer's attitude suddenly changed. Were they really enforcing the law or openly using their authority to challenge a citizen who dared to understand his rights? >> I'm liar. What's your name and badge number? What's your your badge number? What's your name and badge number? That's not your name and badge number, is it? Can you give me his name and badge number? They failed to identify. Is it I will. I have a freedom of speech and I can redress my grievances. I want his name and badge number because he What's his badge number? And yours again? If you run that through David, that's a retaliation. And TCIC That you're going to Okay, I have that on record. >> [music] >> And here the deputy could potentially be breaking federal law. There's a case that I have in the courts right now that cited another case called Bennett versus Hendrix and that shows that it's legal for the police to retaliate against people. >> Stand by. Sergeant Davis. You got it. You got it. I just stripped a cop of his qualified immunity Monday. Get some more. Look me up. That's right. Look it up. Yeah, I'm in Alachua County now. I'm going to be here for the rest of my life, too. No, it's I'm trying to create change. Positive change. I have friends and family with that badge and you're making it look like crap right now. Yeah, right. No, we can do it in the middle of the street because I have a freedom of speech and freedom to seek redress for my grievances. It's the first amendment. It's a first amendment. Stop being stubborn. Go 10-8. Get back to work and do your job right. >> There were no handcuffs, no arrest, yet what unfolded was enough to leave many people questioning the true limits of authority and the thin line between law enforcement and abuse of power. The moment the filming crew stepped into the area behind the police station, they were immediately stopped and questioned. And the situation quickly escalated into a tense confrontation with police. >> All right, I'll stand here. I'm going to block it. >> Yep. >> We're going to block it. >> I'm blocking it. >> See? And everybody coming by here. I'm blocking it. I'm blocking it. >> You got to get on the other side. >> Yeah, this is real stroll back here. This is so beautiful. Look at that sunset going. Soak it in. >> [cough] >> What's going on everybody? We're in the back parking lot of the Township of Chester Police Department in Pennsylvania. I'm here with uh the Resistance and Southeastern PA Community Watch. Think I'm going to go try to go around and see. >> All right, catch you. >> What happened? >> How you doing, sir? >> Hey, how are you? >> What's going on? This this area is only authorized for >> Oh, I'm sorry. I got to go that way? >> Yeah, you can't you can't be back here near the vehicles. >> Which way in? >> Do you have ID on you? >> Why would I need that? Did I do a crime? >> Well, you're in an in an area here that's only authorized with the police. >> Okay, I'll leave. >> Okay, what are you doing back here, sir? >> I was looking for the door. >> Look for what? >> The door. >> Okay. You got ID you? >> Why would I need ID? >> Sir, I'm asking you for ID. >> For what reason? >> I need to know why you're back here by the vehicles filming license plates and everything. >> you're talking about trespass warning, you warned me and I left. I'm leaving. >> Yeah, there's actually a sign right there that says it's only for authorized persons only. And on this side over here, you going behind the vehicles and filming people's vehicles, okay? That's concerning. >> I wasn't filming anybody's vehicles. >> I just watched you from the window here. >> No, I was >> No clear evidence was ever presented, yet the officer continued trying to pressure the man into showing identification. And once questions about the legal basis for those demands were raised, >> [music] >> the officers' increasingly uneasy reactions began making the entire situation look highly questionable. >> Okay, well, I'm going to just need your name now. >> Okay. >> Can I get ID from you, please? >> Did I commit a crime in the in Commonwealth of Pennsylvania? >> Like I said, okay, I'm stopping you now because somebody back there recording our vehicles, okay? >> I didn't record you I wasn't recording your vehicles. >> That's how it appeared. Okay. >> Is there a sign that says you're not allowed back there or anything? >> Yes, there is. >> Yes, there is. >> Where Where is that? >> On the other side here. >> Can you show Can you show it to me? >> Can you grab me your ID, please? >> Can you show me the sign first? Le- for legal reasons. For my lawyer. >> Can I please get your ID, sir? >> One door is locked. >> No, thanks. >> your name? Date of birth? >> You can call me good citizen. >> Okay. >> I didn't do anything wrong. >> Okay. >> You told me I wasn't allowed back there. I came back. I obliged. >> Why Why are you back there in the first place? >> I was trying to find answers to the building. >> But you were recording our vehicles. >> I wasn't recording your vehicles. That's a narrative that you're spinning on us. I was recording while I was trying to find an entrance to the building. >> Is it okay if I record your vehicle? >> I personally not like him going >> Can Google Can Can Google Maps do it? >> That's That's what it appeared to me. That's all I got to say. >> Your personal vehicles back there, you said? >> I didn't even know that until you just said that. >> All right, well, do me a favor then, guys. I'm going to tell you right now this this area is off-limits. I don't want you to return back there. >> That's all you have to do. >> Okay, please leave now. >> That's all you have to do. >> Do you have Are you here for any other reason? >> Yes, we want to get a complaint form. >> It seemed like everything was over once police ordered the filming crew to leave. But the more the group demanded information to file a complaint, the more the officers' evasive behavior started turning the situation around and the truth behind what they had been saying all along slowly began to unravel. >> What's that? >> We need an IA complaint form. >> I'll need your name to get you a complaint >> Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse the complaint. >> Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. >> Is that an arbitrary rule that you just said we're not allowed to pass this way because I don't see any sign. >> Are you done here? >> There is no lawful sign. >> Do you have a police escort? >> There's no statute committing that we're not allowed to go past this way. >> That's not difficult to figure out. On the other side here there's >> Yeah, we'll go take a walk. >> Let's go see where the sign is. We're invited to see the sign. Um these officers invited us to see the sign. >> It says stop. Do not enter. Police vehicles only. >> We're not a police vehicle. That's a vehicle. We're not parking here. >> beings. >> We're not parking here. We're not parking here. I think I This guy looks familiar. I don't know where I met I've seen this guy somewhere before. >> What what my concern is not whether or not you can pass. There are all reasons. There could be lawful reasons to go back. Maybe he was lost. However, when I saw him recording our vehicles it it was raising concern. >> Where is this lawful sign? >> I don't have one to give you. >> By by the county we can have it re >> If you don't have a complaint and you don't have a complaint we're going to we're going to leave. >> Did any of us park there where the police vehicles can park only? >> We're not done. >> Because we're we're trying to >> We're not We're just asking if you had a complaint. If you don't have a complaint >> I need a complaint form so I can take it >> This is public property. This is what we established here. You can't put the point that a out and say that we're are allowed past. >> And this guy has a a temp Is this guy has a temp Where Where Where's your commanding officer? >> If I don't listen to what you said, what will happen? >> Who Who's your commanding officer? This guy right here? Oh, there it is. Are you Are you corporal? Are you a corporal? What's your name, sir, >> All right, guys. You don't have a complaint, then have a good night. >> Are you a corporal? What's your name? What's your name? No, I need a form right now. Right now. For you. And and and you can't hand it to us. Somebody else has to. >> We'll be checking your vehicles out. We'll be checking your vehicles out. >> We will be checking your vehicles out. >> How about we check yours out? I'll follow you all night. >> Please do. >> You can follow me all night. Follow us. >> All right, guys. Have a good night. >> You got nothing else better to do THAN BOTHERING WHAT'S THAT WHAT'S THAT What's that guy's name? The guy with the two with the two stripes on his on his sleeve. >> Miss. Miss. Miss. >> Look at that. They came out talking all this mad reckless [ __ ] and they can't even say what their name is. >> That's the walk of shame there, buddy boy. >> Okay. And I wish that we would have said that to him. >> The truth about the warning sign slowly started coming to light, and once the holes in their argument could no longer be hidden, the officers' attitude began to change. But it was what happened next that pushed the situation even further out of control, raising the question of whether the line between law enforcement and abuse of power was being crossed far too easily. >> And that's why I said, "Where's the sign? How can you ask for ID if you did not I said, "Is that a crime?" >> And he was fired up when we were trying to get >> All right. Before you even showed up, I told my son to leave the area. That's not a crime to walk through a That's not posted. >> Right. It is posted way over there somewhere hidden. I'm sure it is. >> And then when we go see it, it's vehicle. >> It's vehicle. >> Right. >> I told him the same thing about [ __ ] people that walk through. I said, "You don't want to do that." >> It's ringing. >> You put a restricted sign up there. >> They know it's ringing. Oh Oh, here it comes. He's going to get us a complaint form. >> Very good. It wasn't that hard, was it? >> Thank you, man. >> So, as far as the rules as far as not being able to >> The The guy with the big berry bonds head needs to be checked. Like seriously, he has a problem. >> That wasn't that hard. >> Not being able to go back there. So, we can we can expect our vehicles to be released, right? >> It's not your vehicle. >> No, not your personal one. The police vehicles. >> Can I inspect the parking lot for Can I inspect the parking lot for needles? >> What law is that? What law is that? >> It's posted for police vehicles and police personnel only. >> No, it No, it says vehicles. >> Vehicles for parking. In legal terms, vehicles is a whole different story, dude. Can Can we inspect the parking lot for empty syringes? Can I inspect the parking lot for empty syringes? >> And used rubbers? >> After all the tension and arguments, no one was arrested and no clear charges were ever made. Only a situation that left viewers asking one troubling question. Can a citizen's lawful rights really be treated like [music] a threat simply because authority is being pushed beyond its limits? Citizens may file a lawsuit against police under Section 1983 [music] if their rights are violated. Officers who violate those rights could face financial [music] liability and may also be subject to discipline or termination. A civilized society begins to fall apart when people become afraid to speak up and it can only survive when those in power are held under accountability [music] and public scrutiny. Hey everyone. What do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]