And I'm on the public sidewalk. Public sidewalk. Public utility pole. I'm not on their property. I I didn't commit a crime and I don't need the ID. >> I hear video and >> Yes, sir. >> the parking lots and stuff. So, I take that as a suspicious activity. >> Is that a misdemeanor or a felony? >> Um I need your I need your name and date of birth, please. >> When constitutional rights are treated like a threat, an ID is demanded as if it's mandatory, even without any legal basis. >> What's your name? Well, you guys already knew that, right? >> Philip was gone out. >> No, it's not. I I wish not to answer any more questions at this time. >> Then you can leave. >> And when police forget that they serve the public, they'll quickly learn the hardest lesson of all. Power doesn't place them above the law. A citizen shows up near an oil refinery filming from a public area. Then out of nowhere, a security guard rushes up and bluntly declares, "You can't take pictures." And that was only the beginning of what happened next. >> Fuel sign over here. Oh, he got back in his truck. I missed it. Damn it. You little devil. Why you got to snitch on me, bro? All right, he's going to back out. He's going to probably come over here and say some [ __ ] No, no balls. Damn it, my focus. What >> you doing, man? >> Hey, what's up, buddy? Where you going? I'm >> just taking some pictures. >> You can't take pictures of playing. >> I'm on a public sidewalk, bro. >> Don't matter. >> What do you mean don't matter? >> I'm not supposed to shoot the plane. >> Well, then put a big ass wall up. >> Don't worry about my name. I'm not going to give it. >> Unive. >> I'm on a public easement, bud. I'm in public. Who do you work for? Herk Herk Renes Allied Universal. >> You know, you have you know have no authority out here on [music] the public. So why don't you take take yourself on back into where you have authority, buddy? >> I want to go. >> Me, too. Yeah. All right. So, you just hanging out with me? >> All right. Cool. I'm on I'm on the sidewalk, bro. I'm in the public. So, >> like I was saying, look, my cool ass bike, GT Robinson. Only the old heads know about it. I'm here on public sidewalk. I have this guy rolling up. I don't know who you are. Can you identify yourself? >> I work for the plant. >> You work for the plant? >> Your name is None of your business. >> James Sharper. What's your guard card ID? Can I get that, please? Well, you're having an interaction with me. >> Nothing to me. >> Well, you came up to me, buddy. >> I'm going ask you a question. I said, "Why are you filming in the plane?" >> Because it's cool. It's interesting. Matters. >> I'm on a sidewalk, though. >> They don't like you doing that. >> They don't like you doing that inside their property. >> The security guard shows up with an aggressive attitude, repeatedly insisting the filmer isn't allowed to take pictures even though he's standing right along the roadside in a public area. And then the situation suddenly shifts to another level. One question sets off the most intense confrontation of the entire encounter. Am I detained? >> I'm sorry. >> Do you work for Allied Universal? >> Yes, I do. >> Can I get your guard card ID, please? >> I don't have a guard card ID. >> What's your serial number? >> I don't have serial number. >> Badge number. >> We don't We don't have badge number. >> You don't have badge numbers? Okay. So, I have an EMT walking up to me without any allied Oh, he has allied on the other side. Okay. What are we waiting for, bud? Am I detained? >> Oh, so what am I What are we doing here? >> Just hanging around waiting for Waiting for the call. The cops are going to come and they're going to educate you that I'm on the sidewalk. Okay. >> All right. >> All right. He just threw some uh gum wrapper on the ground. I think that's like a $75 100 could be up to any anywhere up to $450 ticket depending on how you do it. I'm not running. I'm I'm way here for the cops to give you a true education, buddy. I'm here on the public sidewalk. I got it all on video. This is as far as I've been. I'm not right here through your I'm not even past the stop point. Stop points over there. >> The filmer remains in a public area, harming no one, and keeps repeating a simple but absolutely critical question. Am I being detained? The atmosphere grows heavier by the second. Every stare, every tone, every move feels like they're gearing up for something much more aggressive. I'm just asking quit filming inside the plan. Just filming the plan >> from from right here. >> Doesn't matter. It's Homeland Security. You have a problem with that. You contact >> No. No. This is a This is a public sidewalk. >> Okay. >> And the Department of Homeland. The Department I don't need that because I didn't commit a crime. Am I detained? >> Am I detaining you? I'm asking you a question. >> Yeah. Am I detained? >> You're out here doing something that Homeland Security does not want people doing. They do not want them filming. >> This is a Homeland Securityite. Are you familiar with the Department of Homeland memo 2018? It was re It was in 2010. >> It was 20. You can look it up. You have a database. >> You have it on you? >> No, I don't have it on. I don't carry it on you. >> Are you, Miss Wolf? >> Yeah, you guys know who I am. >> Yeah, I know who you are. >> Right. And I'm on a public sidewalk. Public sidewalk. Public utility pole. I'm not on their property. I didn't commit a crime and I don't need the ID. And you know who I am already. And you can just tell these guys, just tell these guys that uh I'm okay to be on a sidewalk and filming. >> You're not okay to be filming. You're not okay to be filming. >> Okay. >> What's your name? >> Well, you guys already know that, right? >> Philip Wolf out. >> No, it's not. I I wish not to answer any more questions at this time. >> Then you can leave. >> I I can leave, right? So, I'm free to stay. I'm free to go. >> No. Free to go. You can leave from this area >> or you're going to be arrested for obstruction. >> Okay. As soon as you leave, I'll leave. >> No. >> You can watch me. You don't tell me what to do. You don't tell me to leave. Do >> you have your body cam on? Is your body camera on? It's always on. >> Thank you. >> Okay. You are obstructing right now. And you are you're obstructing with a Homeland Security site. >> I'm just filming from a public sidewall. >> No. No, you're not. >> Yes, I am. >> You are not. And the security is out here telling you that you are not allowed to do that. >> Well, security is out here telling you that you are not allowed to do that. They are not misinformed. You are gonna end up on a Homeland Security watch site because you're out here filming when you're being told not to. >> I have backup coming over here. Um, this lady is standing way too close to me right now. >> Leave. You told me to leave. >> She's approaching me. I'm trying to leave and she's approaching me. >> You're not trying to leave. You're trying to make a bigger scene. >> I'm trying to leave and you're approaching me. >> Leave. >> Let me Let me leave. Do I have to go that way or can I go anyway? >> Leave. Go. >> The police show up and you'd think they're there to calm things down, but no. Instead, they keep applying pressure and even threaten an arrest despite the filmer breaking no laws and obstructing no one. They tell him he's free to leave. Yet, in the same breath, they corner him with a serious threat. And you'll see it for yourself. One wrong step, one wrong move, and he could be in handcuffs right there on the spot. >> Good, man. >> All right, get out of here. >> How you doing? Get out of here. >> Go off the property. >> All right. I'm not on the property, though. I'm on the public sidewalk. >> This is theirs. >> This is theirs. I'm going to look it up. Okay. >> All right. Have a good day, man. >> All right. If that's the case, then you guys gave me a mighty might mighty break today. >> Okay. Thank you. >> But I think it's a public sidewalk. >> It's not there. >> Not. >> It's not. It's there. Can I go over here? >> No sidewalk. >> I can't film from over there. >> Refinery. >> I I can't video the refinery. >> All right, guys. >> All right. >> Uh, glad to see you again, man. I'm glad you're doing well, bro. Yes, sir, man. Take care. >> All right. >> I'm leaving. I'm leaving backwards riding my bike. >> I'm recording cops now. >> I'm not recording the refinery anymore. I'm recording you guys. Look, he's telling them all my information. This is the guy that [ __ ] snooped through all my information and found out where I live, sent a guy to my house. That video got 30,000 views. I'm not recording the refinery anymore. I know I can, but uh that dude scares me, man. Right there. That iron good looking guy. He really shouldn't be on the force anymore. He's a scary dude and he's not even from Pawsboro. >> When everything seems like it's finally going back to normal, their attitude suddenly changes as if they've just realized. Everything has been recorded from start to finish. And that's when what they say, how they act, and what they do next makes viewers ask the real question. Who's actually breaking the law here? A citizen can file a section 1,983 civil rights lawsuit if their constitutional rights are violated. Officers who cross the line can face financial liability and may also be disciplined or even fired. Up next, a citizen is filming in a public area near a courthouse when an officer suddenly approaches, claiming it's suspicious behavior despite having no specific crime to point to. >> Trying to Yes, sir. >> Why is that? >> Uh just just a hobby. >> Just a hobby to video in as far as the sheriff's office and vehicles and county vehicles purpose of it. >> It's just a hobby. That's something I like doing. >> Is this the only place you? >> Uh no, sir. I do courous, sheriff's departments, police departments, anything publicly accessible. >> Okay. Are you from around here? No sir. >> Okay. Where you from? >> Um little farther down the road. I'd rather not. >> No sir, I don't. >> Okay. Why don't you have ID? >> I don't need to have one, do I? >> You can stop recording me. >> I record everything. >> You can stop recording me, >> sir. I record everything. >> Okay. Well, I need I need to I need to have your name and um your date of birth, please. >> Have I committed a crime? >> Well, it's suspicious of the fact that you're back here at our courthouse and that was on the courthouse steps and around out here videoing. Yes, sir. >> The parking lots and stuff. So, I take that as a suspicious activity. >> Is that a misdemeanor or a felony? >> Um, I need your I need your name and date of birth, please. >> And are you asking me or >> Yes, I've asked you. Ask you very nicely. >> Well, I have the right to decline. >> 220. >> I I haven't broken a law. This is a >> APD8 video. >> Have I committed a crime? Are you familiar with >> On private property? >> Is this private property? I didn't see any signs. If you can show me the signs, I'll gladly leave. Okay. >> Well, I see that. It's all right. >> I have no ill will intent. I'm not here to cause any problems, any trouble. >> Driving. Do you walk? You just walk here? >> I I don't answer questions. >> Oh, really? Okay, that's fine. >> Am I being detained? >> For what crime? in the yard this time. >> For what crime? >> This is not open to the public for video and county vehicles, >> which is perfectly legal according to the 2010 DHS Homeland Security memoir. >> Was [snorts] up on the courthouse steps at the video up on our on the courthouse. >> And that's that's public property. The police approach and start firing off questions as if they're investigating a serious incident right outside the courthouse. But instead of giving a clear, lawful reason, they keep circling back to the vague claim that he's suspicious and begin pressuring him to provide personal information. And right after that, everything escalates. They move to take control of the situation while he refuses to back down. Definitely not. >> I have no ill will, no ill intent. I'm not here to do any harm to anybody. >> You won't have a problem question. >> Am I being detained? >> It's a first amendment protected activity. Constitutionally protected by the Homeland Department of Homeland Security. I have no ill will intent. I'm not here to bother anybody. I haven't broken any laws. And if I'm not being detained, I'd like to be on my way. >> Detained at this point. >> Not underestained? >> For suspicion of what crime? >> How you man? >> I'd rather not say please. >> I, as a matter of fact, I was I was currently on my way back out of here. I was just taking a couple pictures. I have done nothing wrong, guys. I was just out taking a few pictures. >> And and as I said, if it if it's if it's restricted area, I I will gladly leave, but I see no no trespassing signs, guys. There are now three police officers here. Officer, I have I done anything wrong? He's saying I'm being detained. >> Well, if he says you're being detained, you're being detained >> for what crime? You're not being arrested for a crime. You're being retrained detained for an investigation. >> But you investigate first, then detain. >> The police begin to twist the narrative, turning a normal act of filming into something suspicious, creating pressure for the citizen to identify himself, despite never articulating any specific crime or reasonable suspicion. And from this point on, the most alarming part isn't the questions they ask. It's the way they tighten the pressure step by step, pushing the filmer into a controlled situation. Two more police officers have pulled up, guys. Just taking some pictures. I was on my way out when he stopped me. I haven't broken any laws, committed any crimes. It's a security risk of the fact that you're on a public on the property here after hours of government facility and that you're videoing this area and videoing the uh the vehicle in this area and especially being up on at the courthouse videoing the area of the courthouse. Two, you resist to give me a name and >> North Carolina is not a stop and identify state. But you are at this point you are a secure you are breaching security of this place right now. >> Is that a law >> for here? This day and time. Oh yes. This day and time. This day and time. As far as security you sir. >> You don't answer any questions that I ask. >> I've answered the questions. I'm sure you have. >> You ask me what >> I asked you politely for just your name and date of birth and you refused to give me any information of who you are and you're on government facility public property. And I was on my way out. I haven't broken any any laws. >> You were on the you was off up at the courthouse when I >> and that is public property. I wasn't trying to break in. I have no ill win intent. I'm not here to do any harm. >> You won't have problem giving us your name and date of birth. >> What do I need to do that for? >> Now you are obstruct you're obstructing and delaying the investigation here because >> I'm sorry. I just don't want anybody behind me. >> Question. >> In order to instruct I >> arrest. >> In order to obstruct I have to be in suspicion of a crime. >> And you are in suspicion. What is the crime? >> This crime that you're in suspicion of the fact that you are out here on a government facility, >> public property. >> This is a government facility after hours and you built you are videoing the equipment and the courthouse >> which is perfectly legal according to DHS. Department of Homeland Security issued a memo in 2010 and revised it in 2018 saying I have every right to do so. The eyes cannot trespass. I've done told you I have no ill will intent. I'm not here to do any harm. have a problem with letting us check who you are. We don't know who you are. >> You don't need to know who I am. >> You could be a terrorist as far as we know. >> Do you? >> They continue escalating unreasonably, using vague buzzwords like security and suspicious to apply pressure and justify detaining him without ever identifying a specific crime or legitimate suspicion. And just when it seems like it's only going to be a routine questioning, it doesn't stop there. Everything starts turning in a far more dangerous direction. the first amendment suspicion activity as suspicious activities as probable cause to hold you and detain you. Especially until you give us your information of who you are. >> But what crime have I broken? >> And if you don't, then you are. And if you do not give us information, you'll be arrested for this. >> But in order to be arrested, I have to be suspected of crime. >> Produce us with your name and date of birth, your ID. That's all you got to do. >> I'm going to do it under the threat of duress. Since you have one, two, three, four, five, and three officers on this side coming around. >> You know that that puts me in harm's way. Ask >> you for your ID. And I've been very polite with you. >> And I do not have it. I will give you my name and date of birth under the threat of arrest. >> Sir, this is going to be your last chance. Then I'm going to put you under arrest. >> Okay. >> Is this instruction? >> I'll give you my name. >> Comment if I patch you down. Make sure you have no weapons, anything like that. >> I will I will tell you I don't have a problem with it. I do have a pocket knife in my car. >> Put your hands on top car. Put your hands up for me. I appreciate it. >> I do have a pocket knife. >> Go ahead and put your hands down. >> I got a camera, too. Yes, sir. The whole thing's being recorded. >> It is in my left front pocket. I won't reach for it. Yes, sir. With a can of dip. >> Can of dips? >> Yes, sir. >> Is that the only thing here? >> Yes, sir. It should be maybe a dollar bill, some change. >> I ain't worried about your dollar bill. I ain't worried about nothing like that. >> And can a bottle in my back pocket? >> Okay. Anything under that bottle? >> Uh, no sir. Just a spit bottle. Okay. >> I didn't want to be spitting on the concrete and you know we're dipping. >> I can take my shoes off if you want me to. >> You good for right now? >> Keys. I have a belt on. >> I'm going to take the keys off. >> Yes, sir. Go ahead. >> Lay them right here on this car. Just >> I don't want to scratch your hood. It's got a bunch of >> All right, buddy. >> Can I stand up? >> Yep. You're good right here, man. >> Yes, sir. Just make sure you ain't got no weapon. >> Yes, sir. >> Everything when this encounter is over, do mind me that I have your knife. >> Yes, sir. >> Can I get your name and badge number, please? >> The officer Rudy. Badge number 151. >> Officer and and can I like I said, I have no ill will intent. I'm not here to do any harm. I was just out taking some pictures. It's a first amendment protected activity. The DHS has already ruled on it. Supreme Court's already ruled on it. The filmer is forced to provide his information under threat of arrest and is controlled and searched like a suspect, showing clear signs of coercion rather than any solid legal justification. But what's most infuriating doesn't end there. Because the moment they get what they want, they suddenly soften their tone and try to explain it away. Almost like they're attempting to frame the whole thing as just a routine check. >> So, what brings you up in the house? >> Just taking some pictures. some video. I'm not trying to break into anybody's car. Actually, these are beautiful cars. Um, I was just, you know, looking at them. Is it okay if I rest my hand in my pocket? >> Yeah. >> You done search? >> Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> That's all for us to check to make sure that you was okay, that you didn't have any warrants on you, that you wasn't a threat to us, but we appreciate that you don't come on this property after hours because it is a closed facility. When it's open, that's a different story. Okay. suspicious that you were here. >> So, we're asking you to not come back on this property. >> And I'm on my way out as soon as this is over. >> That's fine. I appreciate your cooperation. That's all it would have took. You wouldn't had to go this far. You understand? >> Yes, sir. Can I get your name, badge number, please? >> You have a good day. >> Can I get your name and badge number, please? >> Right here. You ought to go. Have a good day. >> Poplin badge number is He doesn't want to give me his badge number. >> Can I get my stuff back? Go ahead. >> I don't want to. Thank you, sir. >> Yep. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. And pocket knife. I'll step away. Thank you, sir. >> Yes, sir. I'm going out this way. Is that fine? >> The police suddenly switched to a softer tone as if nothing ever happened. But the reality is they just applied pressure and detained him without a clear legal basis. then turned around and blamed him for not cooperating. And that's how it ends. Frustrating, lacking transparency and wreaking of abuse of power. When power is driven by emotion, subjective suspicion, or personal ego, an innocent citizen can become a victim in just minutes. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much. >> [music]