You're the person who stole my phone from an innocent woman. >> Okay. >> So, I need to report the crime of theft. Over. >> Just one camera was enough to trigger a legal nightmare that could leave an entire police department paying the price. And when an ordinary citizen stands up against abused authority, [music] the truth slowly begins to come to light. >> Sir, can I see your ID? >> I understand I'm on film right now. So, I'd like to see your ID. >> So, we have Officer Morin wasting taxpayer's dollars just standing here. >> I'm very well aware of the laws. I can post anything I want. I'm trying not to record you. I'm trying not to even put this >> When authority is [music] used to silence a citizen who understands the law, every wrongful move gets caught on camera, turning this confrontation into a legal time bomb aimed right back at the police themselves. The moment the camera was raised outside the Roseville Police Department, three officers immediately approached as if a serious incident was unfolding. The man was quickly stopped for questioning, [music] and it was this encounter that marked the beginning of a situation spiraling out of control. >> Or maybe I'll just walk away. Who knows? >> Can I help you? >> No, I'm good. >> Okay. Do you by any chance have your ID with you? >> What was that? >> I said, do you have your ID with you? >> Yeah, I do. >> Can I see it? >> Uh, what for? >> Cuz I'd like to know who's hanging out right outside the gate filming it. >> Oh, got you. Well, I was taking pictures. [music] I wasn't filming until you walked up. So. >> Sir, can I see your ID? >> I mean, I don't understand what the need is, though. Why do you want to know who I am cuz I took pictures? >> I understand I'm on film right now. So, I'd like to see your ID. That's all I'm asking. >> I got you. Yeah, no problem. Um Yeah, I understand. I understand what your request is. So, All right. Cool. Have a good day. Appreciate you. >> Okay. Stay away from the ingress and egress >> No. >> of these doors. >> No. >> Okay. >> Flat out, no. Not saying I I can walk as close to it as I want. >> Okay. So, as cars are coming and >> What's your name and badge number? >> As cars >> What's your name and badge number? >> As cars are coming and going, I'm going to expect you to avoid this area. >> I'm going to expect uh cars to avoid me. What's your name and badge number? >> Yeah, you can see my name on your >> see your name? >> Yeah. >> So, is it right there? >> It is right here. >> Right here, okay. Is that spelled e h e r e or h e a r? Which one? >> We can go ahead and >> Yeah, good idea. Bounce. You're dismissed. What's your name and badge number? >> I'll be on 1154. >> The questioning seemed to be over, but the police officers returned once again, issuing more unreasonable orders. Confronted with the man's clear understanding of the law, the officers grew increasingly flustered and were ultimately forced to leave. >> Oh, we got a identifier. Look at all that. So, anyways, yeah. You guys are dismissed. Thank you, appreciate it. >> So, if you >> Oh, knock it off with the directives. Come on. >> This is a warning. If you interfere >> A warning for what? Have you seen me interfere with anything? Have you seen me interfere with anything? >> If you >> seen me interfere with anything? >> You will >> Have I interfered with anything? There's no need for directives if I have not interfered. Buckle and bounce. Get out of here. Go. going to >> arrested for >> See you later. Arrest Go ahead. Here's my wrist. That's what [music] I thought. There's nothing you can do. If I'm blocking traffic, but I can be here. Cars can come out. They need to watch out for me. I'm a pedestrian. You can leave. You can leave. You can leave. Why do you make yourself look dumb? You can leave. Mister right here, you can leave. Bounce. >> Because I'm going to be on video, you might as >> See you later. See you later. >> If you block people coming and going, >> See you later. >> you'll end up getting arrested. >> later. >> Perfect. I'm glad you told [laughter] me that. >> Common sense. You don't come give directives when there's no directive to give. Have you seen me block a vehicle? No, right? So, this clown thinks he's I told you you're dismissed a long time ago. You should have left a long time ago. This guy thinks he's going to give me directives right out the gate. Did you get my ID, by the way? I'm going to check him out in here. >> After the tense standoff right outside the Roseville Police Department, it seemed like things had finally settled once the officers walked away. But just minutes later, a baffling action occurred, leaving many to wonder, was this a direct challenge from the police? >> For no reason. Hey, [ __ ] you. I'm standing behind this thing. What's your name and badge number, piece of trash? [ __ ] you. Make me. Make me, punk. Make me, tyrant. Honking your horn at me. What's your name and badge number? Yeah. Make your guys's department look like [ __ ] Just like the trash you guys are. That's why I do that. Now you guys get it. I deal with so many officers who do [ __ ] like that. I was literally standing right here on the other side of this thing. There's no reason that dude need to pull in and do that. And be a prick. And so now we're going to we're going to just be a prick back. That's the way it goes. There's the guy who did it. Which car are you going to get into? See, that's why I don't push laws on them. That's why I don't tell them I know the law. That's why I don't show them because there's no reason to. They know what's wrong and what's right. They know the law. They know case. They know penal codes. I'm not saying they know all of them, but I'm saying they know most of them. And they do [ __ ] like that. So, what was the point? Should I say that oh, you can't trespass me under penal code section or should I just simplify it out saying no, [ __ ] you, make me? You guys get it now? Do some of you guys get it now? We got him. He's just waiting to follow me. Or waiting for a code violation, so we'll get that. Oh, here he comes. He's starting his car now. He's going to try to pull in and say I was in the way. So, he'll make me back up to the curb. All right, we got me on the curb. Do these clowns think I don't know their tricks? That's the that's the gist of it. I know all you guys' little dumb tricks. Don't try them on me. So, now we're going to go back down the other way, and uh we do have another officer down this way. Right there. So, I mean, in all honesty, they're just out here waiting for me. Look, there's even one further down there. >> What seemed like the end of the confrontation was actually when the man realized he was being followed. And when the female officer appeared, he decided to confront her directly. Leaving the question, was this simply a lack of understanding of the law or an open display of abuse of authority? >> All right. So, we have Let's see. Is this the first contact? Oh, this is a female officer following me. What's your name and badge number? Name and badge number, please. I need to be able to add you into the complaint I'm going to file, so I need you to give me your name and badge number. >> Officer Morin, 1121. >> Yeah. First time I asked next time, huh? Little attitude cop. So, we have Officer Morin wasting taxpayer dollars just standing here for a guy with a camera. Just sitting here. She today she is in vehicle 16040 and it is the 24th of November, 2020. And she's just sitting here wasting taxpayer dollars. Wasting time. Failed to identify. So, now we'll go ahead and file a separate complaint for her for failing to identify. Um and just bring her along into this, so No, it's it's messed up that we know their policies better than them trying to sit there and act like they're just going to ignore us. I don't know why you guys are following me. Does it hurt that we're allowed to do this and there's nothing you can do? It's like a ego It's like a bruise to your ego, huh? Yeah. Bye, babe. See you later. Little dumbass little cop. I didn't don't her. She got a little attitude problem for >> As the pressure of being followed dragged on, the man once again confronted the police, warning them to stop the surveillance since he was acting completely within his rights. His sharp arguments and legal knowledge forced the officers to pause and reconsider, revealing an unexpected turning point in this confrontation. >> I ain't filming you. Check it out. Let me talk to you. >> What's up? >> So, I ain't filming you. I know you guys are following me. You're dumb cuz you have it on your scanner channel and you just changed the channel five. I'm not stupid. You guys keep following me, I'm going to put up every single license plate I seen in your lot. If you guys leave me alone right now, >> Do you realize that if you put up the license plate, that would be a crime, right? >> It is not a crime. No, it's public. I can do anything I see in public. Just leave me alone and I won't put your [ __ ] up. If you guys do and you keep doing it, then we're just going to do it and then I'm going to bring a group here to do this. You guys might as well just stop and I'll stop and you stop. How about that? How do we make it? >> Then we won't stop. >> That's what I'm waiting for. But you ain't following me to where I go and not watching what house I go into. It's not going to happen. So, that's what I'm saying. You guys might as well stop and I'll stop. >> though if you post plates, >> That's not true. >> something does happen to someone, >> It's not my problem. That's not true. If I do something or something I make something happen, then I might be involved in a crime. Other than that, I'm not in a crime. It's public information, but I'm very well aware of the law. >> I'm very well aware of the law. I can post anything I want. I'm trying not to record you. I'm trying not to even put this But listen, I'm trying not to even put this conversation up on YouTube if I don't have to, but I see all you guys' cars. You guys are so obvious. Just quit following me and I'll leave and you'll leave and it'll be over. But if you guys keep going, yeah, I'm going to I'm going to go back. I'm going to do everything I can to get every possible tip bit of information I can. I'm going to post it all on every site I could possibly think of and then your guys' information will be out there. So, just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. I don't want to play hopscotch all over the place with you guys walking around streets and just watching you guys drive past me on every which road. So, it's getting old. So, just leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. >> Okay. Have a good day. >> Deal? Okay, thank you very much. What's your name, by the way? >> Newton. >> Okay. Finally, somebody with a little common sense. I appreciate it. Thank you. Holy cow. So, they say now they're going to leave me alone, but they're not. So, and I see that obviously there's another car. It's a Toyota. They had like 10 cars out here just watching me. So, I don't understand why they're doing it, but it's another Toyota and >> At this point, the online debate was no longer about filming outside the police station, but the question became, is a citizen really being quietly monitored by the system just for holding a camera? Citizens can sue police under Section 1983 when their rights are violated, and offending officers may face civil liability, disciplinary action, or even dismissal. Next, just minutes after arriving at the police department parking lot, the man was immediately approached by two officers. But what truly caused the situation to explode was the real reason he had returned there. A serious accusation aimed directly at the police themselves. >> Jeeps. Jeeps I think Jeeps are probably like the number one vehicle for police officers to own as personal vehicles. You know what I mean? Huh. Look at Look at Look who it is. Look who it is. I I've I got business to take care of here. I am I'm trying to do that now. >> But you're not uh You're not being very polite. I need to report a crime. Can you uh can you do that for me? Lieutenant? Lieutenant? Yeah. Okay. >> What are you doing this for, sir? >> I'm I'm trying I'm trying I'm trying to get by. Sir, trying. Kind of hard though with my condition and uh being uh incarcerated for a crime I did not commit, you know. That's that's kind of hard for me, you know? So, I'm out here >> [music] >> doing some public public information and uh public safety, you know? We don't want you police [music] officers running around here with, you know, bad tires and stuff like that. >> So, what what crime do you want to you want to report today, sir? >> Are you recording me, Officer Ferrara? >> Yes, Lieutenant Ferrara. Yes, sir, I am. >> I'd say it's Officer to me. >> All right. >> You don't deserve the rank of Lieutenant. >> Okay, what crime do you want to report today, sir? >> A theft. >> What A theft of what? >> Well, I can't I can't report it to you. >> Can't you don't want to report it to me? >> No, cuz you're the criminal. >> I'm the criminal? >> Right. You're You're the person who [music] stole my phone from an innocent woman. >> Okay. >> You literally threatened her with arrest if she didn't do what you told her to do. >> Okay. >> After publicly accusing an officer of unlawfully seizing his phone, the man repeatedly demanded that an official report be filed. But instead of addressing the complaint, police began stalling, dodging questions, and pushing the conversation into an increasingly tense atmosphere. >> And And you didn't have a And you didn't have a >> You You can get your phone back after >> When can I do that? >> When it goes to trial. >> When it goes to trial? But here, let me Let me ask you something, Lieutenant. You said you needed the phone for evidence, right? No, no. You Do you Do you need the You need But you needed that phone for evidence, right? >> I'm not at liberty to discuss >> But you needed it for evidence. Why did you Why did you take it then? >> I'm not at liberty to discuss your case. >> Why did you take my phone? >> You can go through your attorney. >> Why did you take my phone? >> through your attorney. >> Don't Don't Don't uh Don't Don't Don't erase that. Is that your personal Is that your personal phone? >> Don't Don't Don't >> Is that your personal phone? >> That's your concern. >> Is that your personal phone? >> That's not your concern. >> It's not? >> That is not your concern. No, sir. >> Really? >> your concern. Like I said, I'm not at liberty to discuss your personal case. >> Yeah. >> Okay? >> Yeah. >> You have a criminal proceeding coming up. >> are you out here? Then why the [ __ ] are you out here? >> Because we got a report of you walking through the parking lot looking at at cars. >> Looking at windows. >> And that's a problem? >> Yes, it is. >> Well, how's that a problem? >> Yes, it is. >> How's that a problem? >> It I'm just letting you know >> I mean, am I breaking the law? Is that Is that Is that me breaking the law? You going to arrest me again for something that I didn't [ __ ] do? Huh? >> So, you don't want to report that to Crown Attorney? >> I I'm not reporting it to you because that is a conflict of interest. I need to report a theft. So, I suggest you get your supervisor involved and so I can report the theft. Okay? Get your supervisor. Get your supervisor. What do you mean, "Have a good What do you mean, "Have a good day"? You're not going to take my You're not going to take my complaint? I You can't take your own complaint, you [ __ ] dummy? What the hell is wrong with you? You can't take your own goddamn complaint? Hey. Are you So, you're not going to You're not going to take the You're not going to do it? I Yeah, sure. Let's go. Yep. Absolutely. Let's do it. Yep. Let's do it. Oh, no, after you. Oh, no, after you. Oh, no, you're too pretty. You're too You're too You're too pretty to to go behind me. Yeah. No. >> After the tense accusation in the parking lot, it seemed like the situation was finally moving toward a resolution as all three entered the station to handle the complaint. But, the more the officers were questioned about the legality of their actions, the more their confusion and lack of professionalism began to show until one completely routine request caused them to abruptly turn around and walk away. >> That's not That's not too secure, and there aren't any signs saying uh restriction or anything like that. There's no no signs saying restricted uh access or anything like that. So, it's publicly accessible. [music] >> What is going on? >> Yes, sir. >> I thought you sold the phone. >> Yes, sir. >> You Was it person you were with, your wife or your girlfriend? >> That's my wife. >> Okay, that's why I'm asking. >> Yeah. >> I cuz I didn't I don't know. >> I They knew. >> I don't I wasn't there. Okay? >> What's going on right now? You're going to take the complaint? >> No, there is no They said your phone was taken as evidence. Your wife called your attorney as I understand. He's the one that said for her to hand over the cell phone as per at that time. >> After she was threatened with arrest. After she was threatened with arrest. >> Sir, I'm just letting you know that your attorney told her to hand over the cell phone. >> After she was threatened with arrest. After she was under duress and threatened with arrest. >> Yes, your phone is into evidence. You can talk to your attorney. It was >> My phone was stolen. >> You [music] can talk to your attorney about it. >> want to file a report. >> There's no report to file. It's into evidence. >> Why why do you need Why do you need it for Clearly Clearly you had enough evidence to arrest me. So what do you need the phone What do you need the phone for? Like You see where I'm getting coming from here? You guys are taking yourselves a deeper hole in than needs to be. I want to speak to your supervisor. >> You already talked to my supervisor. He said >> Well, I want to speak I want to speak to his supervisor. When's he going to When No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah, and he and he danced around the damn First Amendment then, too. So is he not going to Is he not going to Is he not going to come out? He's not going to talk? No. >> The more the man demanded to speak with supervisors and internal affairs, >> [music] >> the more he was met with vague, evasive answers from police. And when even his request for FOIA records was pushed into a dead end, many began asking, was this still law enforcement or an attempt to hide something behind the scenes? >> Are you going to get him out of here or not? >> Mr. Sober, at this point you need to call your attorney. And let him know it's an active case. He's aware of it. It's an active case. >> Wait a minute. My >> Your attorney >> report of a crime is not even active yet because you haven't taken the report. >> Because it's it's not an active >> Do you have internal affairs here? Do you have internal affairs throughout the VA Police Department? >> At this time you need to go >> At No, at this [ __ ] time you need to answer my questions, Lieutenant. Period. Do you have internal affairs? I will You're You're starting to piss me off. >> I haven't cursed at you. >> Well >> I haven't disrespected you. All I'm telling you is you need to you need to go and talk to your attorney. >> No, I need to >> and go through and go through everything >> No, I need to speak to I need to speak to internal affairs. I need to speak to internal affairs. I want information on internal affairs now. Now, I want phone numbers. Lieutenant, now. I want it now. I'm here for information. You're going to give it to me. You're going to give it to me. I also need to make a Freedom of Information Act request. >> That goes down to 361. >> Mhm. What are you talking about? >> to make a FOIA request? That goes through 361. >> Who? >> Release of information. >> Who? Can you give me the information? >> I just gave it to you. 361. Go to building 361. Listen to me. >> Not allowed in 361, you big dummy. You have banned me. God, what is wrong with you? You banned me from the hospital. I'm not allowed to go there. You need to give me the information. Give me the information, Lieutenant, now. >> Go through your attorney. Go through your attorney. >> Do you have internal affairs? >> Go through your attorney. >> Do you have internal affairs? >> Have a good day. >> I don't copy. I'm still lost. Still lost, Lieutenant. Still need help. >> After all the tension and confrontation, there were no arrests and no clear explanation for the conduct of the very people sworn to enforce the law. And that's what many found most disturbing. How easily a citizen's lawful rights can be treated like a threat when transparency disappears and authority is pushed beyond its limits. Society becomes dangerous when authority places itself above the law because even a single act of abuse can destroy public trust in justice. Hey everyone, what do you think about this situation? If you enjoyed the video, don't forget to like, subscribe, and support us with a donation. Thank you so much.