So obviously you know why we're here? Yes, I did. >> And that was that body as of Richard or Rick Young. He's been in that storage unit ever since. >> I did it all by myself. >> I don't believe that. >> Basically was a bit of a bully and I'd let him let him bully me. He had fallen in the bathroom and I realized, oh my god, he broke his neck. It happened like that. >> Were you giving him more medications? Maybe you needed trying to keep him just out of your hair. >> Monday, November 1st, 2021, Mcoan, Illinois. In a village of barely 200 residents, the death of a former police chief went unnoticed. No one imagined what had really happened until almost a year later when a strange odor coming from a storage unit revealed a secret hidden just a few steps from his home. What investigators found inside completely changed the perception of a case that had seemed invisible until then. I'm Tyler and this is your daily dose of crime. >> I was told that you have some sort of substance on your hands. Can you hold your hands out for me, please? >> Yeah. >> I think some of it is my blood cuz I did neck myself a little bit. >> Okay. >> Um and I don't know what that is. I'm going to just use a buckle swab here and swab it off of you. Okay. >> Yeah. >> You have any problems with that? >> No. >> Can you hold your hand up for me, please? >> It's pretty dry. Oh, yeah. I'm guessing that's my blood cuz now I can feel the cut. I was using a big knife to open the box. >> Okay. >> And I cut myself. Okay. I work in the lab. I know what you got to do. >> Then you had some on the back side of your hand there. >> Yeah. >> And do you have any >> I don't think there might be. >> That's an old wound. I'm not sure. That's the dirt. I think it's probably dry enough. It's hard to get. Okay. >> Yeah, I think that's all of them. Then we'll uh let you go ahead and let me see real quick there. So obviously you know why we're here. Yes. >> So I'm going to let you tell me what happened. >> Rick got co. He was very sick for quite a while. He can be a very, you know, he could be a very difficult person try to deal with. I mean, you know, nice person, you know, but just stubborn. Just stubborn when it came to health or anything else. >> When officers begin the interrogation, the routine of the room isn't what matters, but the weight of what they already know. Sitting in front of them is the only person who shared the final days of the former police chief now struggling to hold together a story full of contradictions. The questions sound simple, but each answer could bring them closer to what they really need to uncover. Whether this was an accidental death or something far more calculated. >> So, um, we've been together for 24 years. basically was a bit of a bully and I'd let him, you know, let him bully me cuz I'm a doormat. >> How so? >> I paid all the bills. I mean, the man wouldn't go buy himself shoes or jeans or anything else, I took care of everything while he ordered money. And you know, like if we were low on groceries or something or, you know, I couldn't afford to pay a bill. I mean, I was working 10, 12 hours a day. >> Where'd you work? Oh, I worked for Northwestern Medicine. Well, um, but I mean, I'd get up at 4:30 in the morning, go take a shower, go get ready for work, go to work, and come home, and he would have sat there all day long after he retired. You know, he would have just sat there all day long and watched did whatever. And if I said, "Hey, I need some help with the bills this time," or whatever, he might eventually give it to me, but he would complain the whole time. If I didn't go along with things the way he wanted, he'd make my life miserable. But I loved him, so I put up with it, you know. I mean, >> did he live there and move on with you? >> Yes. He moved to Kentucky for a while. Okay. >> How long was that? Um before the year before that he was there for maybe two months. >> Okay. >> Like November, December. >> When did he come back to the area? >> Um last January. >> January of this being 2022. So January of 2021. Yes. >> He's been would have been back in the area for close to >> January, February. Yeah. Somewhere in there. because things just didn't work out down there, you know, living with his son and and we never really split up. He did the living [ __ ] out of my stepmom. So, you know, they they were like oil and water and she finally was like, "It's my house and you need to go live somewhere else." So, he did. >> What's his son's name? also and you know I mean when he left he was like I just want to come home with you and the dog and start things over again and him and Karen worked things out and got along better and everything. Um so everything was fine but when he got co I couldn't get him to go to the doctor. Then it got to the point where it was almost like >> the woman being questioned is Marcy L. Oglesby, 53 years old, who had lived with the victim, Richard Young, in the home of her godmother, Karen Dubet, who had raised her as a daughter. She tells officers that Young was controlling and unhelpful, trying to frame their life together as one of conflict and mistreatment. For prosecutors, that narrative had another purpose, to divert attention from what was really happening inside the house. During that same time, Oglesby maintained an online relationship with a man in Nigeria that she called and began moving money out of Young's accounts without his knowledge. That combination of resentment and external motives was interpreted as the beginning of a plan that would soon take shape. >> It was like he was deliberately making harder for me to take care of him by getting up. you know, I'd get up and go to the bathroom and I'd be like, "If you're ready to get up, go to the chair, you know, do whatever you eat, you know, just give me a minute to go pee." And I would come back and he'd be up and he'd be on the floor. We were, you know, looking at a new house and went to go look at the house and he's like, "I don't feel like going, but send me video or whatever, you know." I went to look at the house. I get back, you know, my little old stepmom cannot pick him up off the floor. You know, I mean, she was a CNA for years, but she couldn't, you know, get him up off the floor. And I said, you know, if you want to get up before I leave to run to Avon to look at this house, let me get you up, you know, cuz I can't pick you up. I wasn't gone 20 minutes. He got up, fell, and when I called him, he was sitting on the floor. And he's like, "No, I'm fine. I'll be here till you get back." Just constant, you know, constant things. So then probably I don't know, the fourth time he fell, broke his nose. I mean, he looked like he'd been through a prize fight, you know, when you've already had a problem in the past. It's not funny to sit there like, "My nephew walked in and went, "Damn, what happened to you?" And he's like her, you know, I mean, thank God I had a witness that he fell, you know, and broke his own nose. But he would think this was funny to sit there and be like her, you know, she'd be she finally had enough of my, you know, stuff like that. He had a bad tendency to dramatize things, you know, tell his kids things to make himself come out seeming more important to, you know, when he got to the point where he he couldn't really talk cuz he thrown up so much, you know, all of gastric juices and, you know, everything had him so he could barely talk. call and check on him here and there, but his kids never gave a damn about anything but getting money. On the other hand, doesn't he's one of these people, I don't want an inheritance from my parents. I don't want anything that makes it look like you're you're happy they're dead. You know, once again, he'd started feeling a little bit better. started getting some strength back, get up to go to the bathroom and he got to the bathroom and I came back in from taking the dog out to pee and he he had fallen in the bathroom and like went in, you know, helped him up and he was like, "I want to go out to the RV." Cuz he had a big RV at the time. It's like I want to go out to the RV and just stretch out and not bug anybody with what I want to watch on TV and anything else. So, you know, I was like, "Okay, well, you know, we'll go." And he had a hold, you know, had a hold of my shoulders, didn't get out there, and sat down on the edge of the bed. And, you know, he's like, "I feel funny." And I said, "Okay, well, let's get you laid down." And he just he just stopped. I mean, literally like that. And I realized, oh my god, he broke his neck when he fell. >> Young's physical decline became harder to ignore. Frequent falls, vomiting, and growing weakness appeared to be the natural signs of aging or lingering illness. Oglesby described them as inevitable, even claiming that Young sometimes blamed her directly. But later analysis would reveal something quite different. All of these symptoms were consistent with long-term poisoning by tetrahydrozelene, the active ingredient in over-the-counter eye drops, which she obtained with Dubet's help. The discovery of 19 empty boxes of eye drops and a pill crusher reinforced the idea that this was not random illness, but the silent evidence of a sustained poisoning campaign. >> And I sat down and I freaked out and I have a lot of PTSD when it comes to people dying. And I sat there for a long time and I made a horrible decision. I don't really have a good explanation for other than I sat there crying and you know I went in the house and you know mom's like what's going on? I said oh he's really sick. I need to take him to the hospital. And I of course wasn't going to involve my stepmom. And like I said they weren't real close you know they they tolerated each other basically. So, she didn't think anything of it when I said I just, you know, he's real sick and he needs to go to the hospital and she didn't think too much of it. And after a couple days of me getting my head out of my butt and realizing, you know, I should have just called when it happened and done the normal thing that any normal human being would do. And then at that point, I was like, okay, well, I didn't do the right thing. I got scared and it just kept compounding and compounding until I was like, "Okay, so what do I do?" You know, that's a criminal act. But it it wasn't wasn't like a religious thing or, you know, it was me just being depressed and devastated and and I knew his his oldest child was never going to coop right with that. I mean, >> child's the oldest. >> He's like his mother. He'll do anything do anything for money, you know, and he wants the world to believe that he is the the almighty warrior, you know, runs around with this big Marine Corps emblem on the back of his truck, but he broke his own knee so he didn't have to deploy. And and I just I I just made a really stupid decision, you know, but I mean, X-rays and everything will show that, you know, that I I didn't hurt him, you you know, I tried to take care of him and I wouldn't hurt a fly. You know, I would never kill someone. I just didn't didn't quite know. It was like I wasn't in my right mind life. >> I'm going to backtrack just a little bit. Obviously, I I told you that you know you said you know why we're here because of the body of J. >> Yes. >> And that was that body is of Richard or Rick Young. >> Yes. >> Former one. police chief. >> Chief of police? Yeah. >> Were you guys married? >> No, we were not. We both had our fingers. So, we had power of attorney and all of that stuff. >> From the night that he fell in the bathroom, you then walked him from the bathroom to the bedroom? >> No. Out to the RV? >> Walked him out to the RV? >> Yes. >> He That's where he Is he on a bed on the couch or something? >> He was on the on the bed back in the RV >> and he said, "I don't feel very good." And then I basically put my arms around him and you know went to pull him up to me. Literally when I pulled him up to me, his neck did something unnatural and I screamed and you know I took his face and you know I was like honey and he was just gone. It it happened like that. I've never seen anything in all my years of medicine. I'd never seen anything like that. When Young finally died, Oglesby never called for medical attention or reported it to authorities. She claimed she had suffered a panic attack, but her actions told another story. She moved the body from room to room, obtained a large cardboard box, and prepared it for transport. Her composure became a critical point for prosecutors. Instead of despair, she showed control and precision. Traits that pointed to execution rather than reaction. At that stage, the case was no longer about determining the cause of death, but about measuring how far premeditation had gone. >> How long did you keep him in the camper? Was he in the the RV that night? >> Just like 24 hours till I figured out how to how to move him. >> He's been in that storage unit ever since. Who helped you get him over there? >> I did it by myself. Wasn't easy. It was like early in the morning. And I kind of wiggled the box. Wiggle the box. Wiggle the box. I did it all by myself. I don't believe it. Got it down, you know, got the box down the steps. You know, if you're just kind of scooching up, you know, something heavy, you know, in a box a little bit at a time. >> You didn't use anything to wheel them over there. We had a a dolly, but the box wasn't it it wasn't strong enough. If it hadn't been something I was doing depressed and stupid all by myself, then I sure I would have, you know, if I hadn't complain, I would have come up with a better plan. But I was I was panicky and and not right in the head. So over a year none of you said you would call and check in on him >> text a little bit but not much >> for a year reached out to anybody saying that he don't know where he's at. >> Well, you know, I told him he's in Iowa City and he was full of they're not close. I mean Rick didn't believe was even his kid. How many people knew that Rick was over there >> in the storage shed? Me. That was it. >> Did your mom know? >> I think she suspected there was something wrong. >> If we talk to your mom, what do you think she's going to tell us? >> Did she thought something? Thought that I was, you know, hiding something, but she just thought he was in Iowa. >> Do you think she would know any details of how he died? >> No. I mean, she she knew he was falling all the time. I mean, you know, he was doing that in front of her. She'd even sit there and tell him, "Why don't you just stay in the chair, stay in bed, or use the walker?" I mean, I had a walker. I didn't have any intention of hurting anybody and definitely not, you know, my elderly stepmom or, you know, my my family. I didn't have any intention of hurting. His family has not gotten to grieve, you know, because of the choice that I made. But I never meant to hurt anybody. That's why I did this on my own. This was my choice and mine alone. >> Are you still doing the art dealer thing though? >> Trying to. >> How's that going? >> Not very well. >> Is that out of Nigeria? >> Well, the business itself is out of here, but I have 23 different artists from the African or Caribbean diaspora. And >> is there one from Nigeria? >> Yeah. >> Are you particularly close with him? >> Yeah. Yeah, he's my best friend. >> Is there any kind of a romantic relationship? >> There has been. >> So, did Rick know about that? >> Yeah. >> Did he have a problem with you being still friends with him and working with him? >> No. I mean, you could he would make comments here and there, you know? That's what caused the whole problem. Um, when I got arrested for that, that's when Brick started going through paperwork and going through and realizing that I wasn't spending all my money on taking care of us. And that's when he realized that there was something starting romantically between and I. He was like, "Well, I want to work this out. I want to talk this out." I figured he was going to, you know, he put me in jail and was going to do whatever and very much wanted everything his own way. That same composure appears again when she answers questions about her art business abroad. Oglesby explains that most of the artists she worked with were African or Caribbean, but investigators already knew that some of those funds were linked to her relationship with While she insisted Young was abusive and that she acted alone. The evidence told a different story. Dozens of empty eye drop containers, a pill crusher purchased at Walgreens, and Dubet's testimony that she had seen Oglesby put drops into Young's coffee. The gap between her version and the material evidence revealed a woman capable of sustaining a meticulous plan for months disguised as an ordinary routine. >> So you you are 100% sure that your mother doesn't know any of the details of how he died or where he's been for the last year, >> right? So, if I told you that we've already been talking to her and I have another investigator who's interviewing her at the same time and she's given details that match pretty closely to what you're telling me, how would you explain that? >> She's a little old lady and I didn't want anything bad to happen to my mom. >> I understand that, but >> I would rather take it on myself because like she didn't physically go help me, you know. >> How did you really get across the street? I really exactly the way I said I really did. >> You didn't use a card? >> Nope. I started to but it was the box was not strong enough. >> I'm trying to protect her. Okay. But in this situation, the best way to help yourself is to be completely honest. Before we finish, I have to ask a situation like that. You said that he was abusive, at least emotionally, and you've got somebody that you're talking to, and I totally understand that situation. Were you giving him more medications than maybe he needed trying to keep him just out of your hair? >> No. >> You were giving him any other that was keeping him down, keeping him, you know, from being emotionally abusive to you? >> Oh, no, no, no. >> The case went to trial nearly 4 years later, and in June of 2025, Marcy L. Oglesby would be convicted of first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder, and aggravated battery by administering a dangerous substance. In September, she was sentenced to what would likely be the rest of her life in prison. The prosecution presented overwhelming evidence with the empty eye drop boxes, pill bottles, a pill crusher, and the testimony of her own godmother, who admitted helping to conceal the body. Karen Dubet, age 79, accepted a plea deal for concealment of a homicidal death, receiving 2 years of conditional discharge in exchange for testifying against her godaughter. The autopsy would confirm what had long been suspected. Richard Young had died from tetrahydrozelene intoxication, a substance so common in eye drops, yet deadly when ingested repeatedly. For the small community of Mccoan, the revelation would be devastating. They had lost a man who had dedicated more than three decades to public service in the most unexpected way at the hands of a person he trusted the most.