Hi. >> Where's your dad? >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Who's home with you? >> For Long Beach Police Department, if you're inside, make yourself known. >> Kids in the basement. >> That door appeared to be locked, so she busted it down and there were five or six kids in there. >> The amount of flies makes you think there's a body. >> They don't have anything clean. They have no working bathroom. They have no working kitchen. >> There's no ifs or buts. Either we go in or you guys are being arrested. Okay. >> No. >> In the United States, some of the most serious crimes do not begin with weapons or even masked intruders. They begin behind closed doors where children are left unprotected. Today, we'll walk through six cases from six different counties where neglect was not a single mistake, but a pattern. Digital investigations that uncovered hidden danger, kids begging neighbors for food, toddlers locked in filth, newborns exposed to entire groups of children trapped by the very systems meant to protect them. These are the moments when police, neighbors, and social workers realized that what looked like a private family problem had [music] become a criminal emergency. Monday, January 8th, 2024, Derma, Mississippi. What began as a search warrant limited to electronic devices quickly turned into an emergency for three young children. Investigators had traced online accounts and IP addresses linked to child material back to the home of Eric Kellum and Elizabeth Herbert, expecting a purely digital operation focused on computers and storage devices. But instead they found controlled substances, a firearm, three miners living in an environment that was unsafe on every level, which transformed a technical raid into a child protection crisis where the priority shifted from evidence to immediate safety. I'm Tyler and this is a compilation of your daily dose of crime. Get your daily dose of crime every single day at 3:00 p.m. Eastern and we're turning it up two videos per day. Don't miss a single moment and tune in. >> You hear it? >> Yes, sir. >> We got our kids in here. >> Oh, what's going on? >> We'll let you know in just a second. >> Hold on. Let me lock you so they don't move. >> Hey, he ain't searched yet. >> Go down and see that officer there. >> Baby, go take a picture. Oh, you got anything on you? >> No, I'm sorry. >> Okay. >> All right, ma'am. My name is Deputy Baker with the sheriff's office here. I'm also with the Mississippi Attorney General's Office, Internet Crimes Against Children's Task Force. >> Right now, you are being you are being detained. You're not under arrest. Okay. >> Okay. >> You're being detained for an investigation of ex children. >> See, I have a Google account that got hacked and I got on my Google account about something like that and I messaged Google saying my account had been hacked. Okay. Pupp. >> All right. Before I can ask you any questions about that, I'll have to read your rights, though. So, just bear with me a minute. I'll have to go get the forms out of my truck and everything. But we do have a search warrant for the house. >> Oh, there's >> the things up here. I sent you a picture. >> So, who who all in the house right now? >> My three kids. And there's no one in the house. I mean, if you need phone, >> these these off these deputies can go inside with you so you can watch the kids. Okay. >> Hey, could you get some Erica? Could you get could you get a pair of gloves? Oh, pounders, you got any gloves? >> I don't have you guys were in here not long ago. >> Yeah. >> Hey, how y'all doing? >> I don't know where it's at. >> Paraphernia in the bathroom. >> That is not mine. I can tell you exactly who it is. >> All right. Go go go see go talk to Deputy Casa in there. Where's your cell phone and stuff? Hold on. >> I just have one right here. >> All right. Where was it at? Don't touch. Don't touch it. >> It was in the [ __ ] right here next to >> Okay, that's fine. Just don't don't do anything with your phone. >> Okay. Well, I mean, I need my phone for working and doctors. So, you can look at it. I can unlock it for you right now. >> Well, if we're going to do if we're going to do that, I've got to do some paperwork first. >> I said cuz you can look on my phone or you won't. I ain't got nothing on it. I got a pair of the pipe in here on the bathroom. >> Yeah. And it's not mine. I can tell you that. Exactly. >> When did you leave it over here? >> Four weeks ago. >> And you still leaving it on the counter in there where you >> All right. Is this one Is this one Is this one your phone? >> Yes. >> Okay. Is this one his phone? >> That one don't work. >> It's just an extra phone. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> I say I've been working. I haven't touched it cuz I didn't want to touch it. >> But then you but you got kids right here. >> Then they don't go in there because we have issues with that bathroom with the plumbing and stuff. That plumbing the plumbing's backed up. They don't go in there. They stay in here and there. We mostly stay in here right now because we have issues with the heat and the air. >> So the thing about it is what were you trying to tell me as far as the Google account? >> I got a notification. I got locked out of my Google account saying something about child exp. Okay. >> I messaged Google saying my account has been hacked. Okay. >> They said they're going to investigate. Okay. >> Because I don't use my Google account except for like stuff for work. >> What uh what email address is associated with your Google account? Do you know? >> Would you know the email address cargmail.com? >> That's one I used to have that I got locked out of a while ago. I couldn't get into it. >> Okay. What about 19gmail.com? >> That's the one that just got locked out of. Okay. >> That's the one I messaged him about. I got a notification. >> See the clip? >> Yeah, there's a broken one right here, too. I don't think I'm going to see that right there. Tinkle. Be careful. There's something in it. There it is right there. Okay. I don't know. Okay. What about an email address juggmail.com? >> I usually use my name. >> Okay. >> Do you think any of those could belong to Eric? >> Honestly, I have no idea. >> Okay. Cuz I'm going to show you a picture real quick. >> This is from his Facebook page. See Jugaloo's University? >> Yeah, that's old Facebook. >> Okay. I mean, it kind of matches what's in some of those usernames and emails there. >> So, I'm just going to flat out tell you upfront and to the point. Okay. >> I received a cyber tip from the National Center for Missing and Children. >> Okay. >> In that cyber tip, this home email was addressed or I'm sorry, this home internet service was used in the transfer of child. Those email addresses and those usernames were associated with it. So, these Snapchat accounts that were created using that email address and this home internet service was either you or him. >> And I can tell you it was not me. >> Okay. So, here's what we're going to do at this point. Right now, he's under arrest. >> Okay. >> And it's obvious why. >> Yeah. >> Um I'm going to go back and interview him, but for now, anything electronic in this house has to go with me. >> Okay. Any CDs, DVDs? >> We don't have anything that we use. >> Cell phones, laptops, iPads, external hard drives, thumb drives. >> We don't have anything. You got the cell phones. >> Okay. They're going to search through here and look because anything >> those cell phones, that's it. I use the cell phone as a remote for the TV for the kids. >> Okay. >> So, anything like that that's here, we've got to take it. >> You have all of them right now. I promise. >> Okay. But we still have to look. Is that a airsoft gun kind of thing or what is that >> with no pellets or nothing in it? >> Don't touch it. >> No, don't touch it. >> I was just going to hand it to you. Okay. >> Just leave it. >> Just leave it. >> I'll say it's there. It >> is your truck out here unlocked. >> Uh yeah, it's actually not my truck. It's my father-in-law's. >> Okay. Well, we we're going to have to search anything that's on the property. So, that that includes vehicles. >> I mean, it's just it's not mine. It's his dad. >> What's the white powder in the tin foil in there? kids and mother out here. >> Um, whatever works best for you. But it is cold out here, too. Um, but I am about to call CPS. I'm going to call CPS and get them out here. >> I mean, it's not livable. >> Pipes in the bathroom. There's some kind of crystal like substance in there, too. She's saying it's been in there. >> Collect everything. Collect everything. >> She's saying it's been in there for 4 weeks. She didn't want to touch it. So, your kids can go in there and definitely going to need you to come out here to this house. The house is unlivable. There's in the house. >> Um, we've arrested the husband so far. The mother's still here with three kids. >> Light bulbs. >> Yeah, a lot of them do. >> I haven't touched it yet. And that's that was where >> in the bathroom. >> Okay. >> With all this other >> Yeah. >> Where where the kids can get to. >> So here's here's what we're going to do. When when uh CPS gets here, we're going to tell them to take the kids and we're going to arrest her for possession of whatever y'all find in there. >> And then whatever you can charge about the kids. >> Yeah. Well, at least for now, she'll get possession charges and he'll get the child charge and possession charge. >> And what I'll do is I'll go ahead and uh I'll just Miranda him next week and then ask him what that is in that 10. >> As a matter of fact, here I've got the forms right here. Just go ahead and do the form on him. Ask him what you want to ask him about that. I'll ask him what I need to ask him real quick and then we'll just take him up to the jail >> because I've seen enough. >> All right. And [clears throat] you can see it's nothing is it's all plain and simple. All right. Before we ask you any questions, you have you must understand your rights. You had the right to remain silent. >> Okay. >> Do you do you wish to answer any questions? >> I I don't know what the best thing to do without a lawyer and I don't have a lawyer and y'all have to appoint me one. Let let me say let me say this, okay? I can't ask you any questions or tell you anything about what's going on un unless you're willing to talk to me. You can stop at any point. >> Like even if I ask a question and you say, "I don't want to answer that." That's okay. I just need you to acknowledge that you understand what your rights are. >> Okay. Yes. Yes, sir. >> Okay. My name is Deputy Baker. I'm work with the Callum County Sheriff's Office. I'm also with the Mississippi Attorney General's Internet Crimes Against Children's Task Force. I received a cyber tip that some >> images and videos were transferred using the internet service at your house. >> Okay. >> Using usernames and email addresses and things that are associated with you. >> Okay. >> So, that's why we're here with a search warrant. >> Okay. >> On top of that, he had something he needed to ask you about some stuff that we've already found in the house. >> Okay. >> What's in that tin? What's that crystallite substance in that tinfoil in the bathroom? >> Um, >> be honest because I've got a test kit. I can >> test it. >> Okay. Um, well, see, now I don't know what to do. See, I don't know if I need to talk to a lawyer now or what. >> Well, you don't have to answer that question, >> but as far as it stands right now, you're under arrest. Uh, at least for the possession of child. >> I don't know. >> And also for whatever that we find in the house. So, we'll sort that out in a little bit. >> Okay. >> I'll transport you to the jail. >> Amidst it all, Eric listened to the preliminary charges being read. His reaction was telling. He didn't resist, but also failed to take responsibility. He appeared confused, avoided direct answers, and admitted he had no lawyer or defense strategy. From a psychological standpoint, this passivity reflected a form of cognitive avoidance, minimizing the seriousness of the process as a way of self-p protection. For prosecutors, however, it only confirmed that the case would move forward on solid evidence, seized devices documented, and a hazardous environment for children. >> So, when we get to the jail and I uncuff him, I can just get him to sign this. >> Yeah. Yeah. And if he don't, we've got it on video that he acknowledged it and he was handcuffed. So, and at this point, I don't have anything else to ask him and he lawyered up. So, >> I may have a kit, test kit in my >> We're just going to collect it and bring it back. So, we'll go we'll go with that from there. >> Yeah, just wait up there for me. >> I'm working on putting the house. You know I am. But I'm working every goddamn day. I'm not >> All right, let's not have a Let's not have an argument. >> Can you be careful with the tools are my father-in-laws? >> They're not going to damage anything. >> All the stuff in there is my father-in-law's just about. They're not going to damage anything. >> There's a room right here. I didn't see nothing. I looked all through the The only thing that I seen electronic is that Xbox. >> Mhm. >> That was sitting right there at the door. And she said the only thing she had was the phone she give you. >> That's all I have. >> I went that way to the bathroom where she was going. >> Right. >> And that's when I found seen that asked where she was doing. She was grabbing some tin foil. >> Uhhuh. >> Yeah. And it told it's not mine. that there was a tent pole like a >> balded like a ball >> over to the left and a little plate. Uh as soon as we got them out for we look through the wood man we open this white powder in there. So >> okay >> I didn't know that was I knew the pipe was in there for I'm not asking you about that either way. >> But what I am asking about is the electronics. Okay. I know I know the cell phone that you had and there was the Nokia cell phone that you said was just an extra one. in his pocket. >> We got one from him. >> Do you Do you have any kind of thumb drives or anything in this house? >> In my phone. >> That's all you got? >> He's already >> Ma'am, I I I need you to go until we're done. Okay. >> Okay. Right. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Also, I've got a memory card, but it's in my phone. >> Mhm. >> And that's all I have. >> Right. But as far as he goes, do you know if he has any phone drives or anything anywhere in my house that there can go in there with him and see? >> That would be fine. You want to go with her, Jeremy? But yeah, watch watch your step right here. >> Okay. >> This board's flimsy. >> Just come in. Come in. >> You want to come back? >> Come in here and let me talk to you for a minute. >> They don't have anything clean. This is their living conditions. This is where the kids were when I came in here. >> They have no working bathroom. They have no working kitchen. They have nothing. Just to look around. Look right there. Oh god. I got to get a closeup. >> Sir, >> when CPS finally arrived, the operation reached a turning point. What had been a policeled case became a joint institutional intervention. Every observation from CPS, structural deficiencies, unsanitary conditions, the presence of hazardous items was logged as independent evidence of child. alongside police reports. These civil findings gave the case greater legal weight. At the same time, the medical protocol was activated. The three children were taken for physical and psychological evaluations. These reports would measure not only immediate consequences, but also the emotional toll of growing up in an environment marked by neglect and criminal exposure. For Eric and Elizabeth, this development nearly eliminated any chance of regaining custody as the child protection case advanced parallel to the criminal one. This is why I'm telling you it is in no condition whatsoever for any anything sustainable. Plus, there was methane in the house. >> Okay. >> And so, we're going to charge her with possession of >> Okay. >> And take her to jail. I was just waiting on you to get here to work out the children before I did. We've already transported him for child and possession of >> Okay. But it it wasn't of their children, was it? >> No. No, not Well, I don't know yet cuz I I still have to take everything we got from here >> to get it processed. And now if I find anything of their children, I'll let you know. >> Okay. Do you know they're >> I have not asked the ages, but they're all three very small. >> Okay. So, I would need to get a forensic set up for them. I would say no. >> Okay. >> I don't think they're going to be old enough to to be able to. >> But if you want to walk around, you can, but I mean, the whole house is like this. >> All right. >> Now, this is fine. >> And the bathroom, you can't stomach going in there. >> Okay. >> When you took the pictures of the inside, you took the whole inside, right? Like the conditions and everything, too, cuz that's probably going to end up being another charge. >> Okay. I just want to make sure. >> Right there. Is that where I was telling you that? Right there. Is >> that cuz we're probably going to be we're probably going to do a child, too. >> Yeah. Cuz times get hard. This is no excuse. So when when CPS is done with the mom getting the information that they need to get and everything if you'll 1015 her and ride with one of y'all to transport her back and then I'm going to talk with CPS and exchange investigative information so that we can get a charge on that too. And >> probably easier. >> It's usually 30 days in 30 days. >> I mean, as far as I know, I don't know if I'm charged with anything. >> Am I charged with anything? >> You will be. I will be because what? >> Well, there was in the house and I >> the conditions of the house >> if I pass on testing everything >> possession of me has nothing to do with whether you test positive or negative. >> And see that's >> even though I didn't know that was in there. I just knew the pipe was in there and it wasn't mine. But with just that charge would that affect it just as bad? It does cuz that's going to be because the children were in the home with it and then plus the conditions of Yeah. Tell mom is being um arrested as well. She's being charged with possession of >> and I just sent you the pictures. I don't know if they're going to >> I'm going to lose my job and everything. >> Uh I think personally I lost my job and my kids. >> Whichever one we've been texting now >> and I don't even know. >> Okay. But you're at court. >> Yeah. Okay, I'm about to um take y'all in the home. Can I I've got the phone. >> Okay, >> I'm going to go back in. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> you got order to get him out of that. >> Okay. >> Yeah, judge. This is Deputy Baker. I'm here as well. We were conducting a search warrant here and then I called him out here. Um, there's something else I want to show you, too. Um, I mean, there was in the home and everything else, but, uh, I mean, look at this >> roaches. >> And that's right next to where the kids were. >> They can't stay with their grandparents. I'm not saying that they can't be considered for placement. What I would need to do, they can follow me to the office. I can get their information. >> Like I said, for my my dad, I don't have his number, but if you know Britney, you can get up with her. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Because if if they can take them, I would love for them to take them. >> Okay. >> Because I know can't handle them. >> Okay. >> I say if you ask any of them, they'll tell you cannot handle them. >> Okay. All right. I'll see um if I can get Britney out and see if >> I have her number on my phone. >> Uhhuh. But he's got my phone, so I'd have to get off of the phone from him. And if whoever takes them, I have my food stamp card that hits tomorrow, I could give to them. >> Okay. See, we wouldn't be able to do that cuz they're going to come off your case anyway. So, >> Okay. So, Okay. But if they do come back with their grandparents, can their grandparents have the card? >> Mhm. >> Okay. Great. Well, let me go down here and get the kids. Um, do they have any medical conditions, allergies, um, allergic? Can't have oranges. They make your lips swell up. Okay. The case ended with Eric Kellum convicted of possession of child material, possession of a controlled substance, and three counts of child receiving 15 years in prison. Elizabeth Herbert was charged with possession and three counts of child. Her legal process remains ongoing with the potential for a multi-deade sentence if convicted. The three children were placed under the custody of the Mississippi Department of Child Protection Services undergoing medical and psychological evaluations to assess the long-term impact of living in that environment. Beyond the individual charges, the case highlighted how rural isolation, substance abuse, and online crime intersect, leaving children exposed until a digital investigation finally forces intervention. 2 years earlier and nearly 1,400 m away, a different household in Arizona was facing its own crisis. One that neighbors had been witnessing long before police ever arrived. Monday, July 18th, 2022, Mesa, Arizona. For weeks, three sisters ages 2, five, and six were seen knocking on doors, asking strangers for food and water. When police reach their home, they find their mother Katrina Anise Johnson and her partner Brandon Edwards living in an environment marked by addiction, chronic school absenteeism, and repeated refusals of family help. What began as a welfare check would quickly reveal long-term neglect overlooked by multiple systems. Jesus. >> Hi. >> Hello, ma'am. >> Just coming out and talking to us tonight. Um, >> so based on what we saw, we had to do a little bit further investigation. Got to ask some more questions. >> Um, can we just go over to our car real quick and >> just ask more questions? >> I'm trying my best to keep this >> my kids and keep get this place cleaned up. I just talked to the property manager. She just left. >> I know. I talked to her, too. >> Do you mind just stepping over my vehicle so we can talk? >> No. >> Why? >> You have a warrant. Whose >> car is this? That's hard. Can I get some shoes for my husband? We'll talk. Can you My husband, please. Please. Can you please get Brandon, please? Is he being drafted, too? >> Hold on. >> Please tell me. Please. >> We have to do more investigation. He's not He's not going to go in jail right now. >> Okay. >> You're only going to jail cuz you have a warrant. >> So, what's with the war investigation? What's that mean? >> Okay. We have to ask more questions. I have some detectives that are going to talk to you. >> What? Come on. Honey. >> So, she's going for the warrant today. Do you have any weapons right here? >> No, I don't. >> Am I just >> Does she have any shoes or anything outside? >> Yeah. Can I get her a jacket and stuff? >> It's freaking cold, bro. >> No way. >> What am I? >> No way. >> We're entertained right now. Okay. >> Why? >> What are you doing with my >> What the is going on? Guys, explain what's going on. >> Don't Don't I know. >> Yeah. Hold on. [screaming] >> What? >> Baby. Baby. No. Don't touch my daughter. Please. >> We're not going to. >> Don't run. >> I need to know what's going on with my kids. >> No. Please don't touch my daughter. Please. I'm being cooperative. I'm being cooperative. I understand. You can step out. >> Please. Thank you. Please. his face to be. >> Okay. Do you have anything in your pocket? >> No, we can't talk. >> So, we're concerned >> with the safety of the children. >> I know, but I'm understand. I understand. >> What's going on? I told you I need to talk to the land lady. >> Hold on. Okay, relax. Let us let us let us let us work figure it out. Okay. >> I understand. Your kids are going to be fine. >> I don't want to go. >> We're going to We're going to take care of I don't want to go to DCS, please. >> I understand. >> I promise them. Please. >> I know. I'm fine. I'm sorry. I'm going to shut the door. I'm nervous. I'm scared. Okay. Please talk to me. Please. >> Hold on a second. Please don't. >> Hold on a second. >> Daughters are over there. >> And I I understand how you feel right now. I really do. >> I have to go to jail right now or I have to stay here and wait. >> We're just being detained. >> I did her a jacket. >> Yeah. Like I'm not trying to be hostile. My my daughters are right there. >> So we'll we'll get everything She's not going yet. So when everything >> when everything gets, you know, figured out, we'll allow you to grab whatever she needs and all that stuff. So we're just going to have a seat in my car real quick. And >> can I just stand here with my daughters? Cuz they're scared right now. They're really scared. >> I understand. >> I don't think you do. >> I No, I do understand. >> You talk like you understand, but you don't. >> Crying right I >> My daughters are freaking freaked out cuz they've been taken by CPS before and it took us a year to get them back. >> Okay. Well, >> my daughters are freaked the out and you guys are locking them in the house right now. That's that. Come on, dude. How does that look to them? >> We're not locking them in the house. We're allowing them to go back. >> They're holding the door shut and my daughters are inside. How do you think they're thinking as kids? >> They can see you right now. >> Oh, you think they're that tall? >> They're sitting on the bed. >> She was She was just watching through the window. >> So, let's just go have a seat in my car. Uh, that's not fair. I I'm not here to be, you know, fair. I'm here to do my job. Okay. >> You don't mind handing over your phone to me real quick, sir? >> Can I call my mother? At least have her come down here and get my kids. >> We'll get to phone calls. Okay. >> I just want to have my mom come get the kids so they're not freaking out. Can I just have that from you guys? That is very I'll even let you call. >> You're not even going anywhere yet. >> I know, but I want my mom to come pick up my daughter's right. Okay. I'm the tra guy. Thank you, Charles. >> My car is freaking out. Can you >> pull Can you pull up to the fence and let me have the window open? >> You got to You got to go in. You got to get in the car first. >> I'm like 49 >> and we got You can't have your phone back there. >> I don't understand why I have >> because you both have to be >> 8:35. >> Okay. >> What did I do wrong? It's pending an investigation. >> A warrant that doesn't count here. >> It's impending it's impending a child investigation. You're being detained. Okay. That's that's why. >> Yeah. >> Is he biological dad three children? >> Okay. So, right now I'll keep them detained in my vehicle until we can figure it till you figure out what we're going to do with these kids. So, I told you guys your parents aren't going anywhere. Right. Right. They're still right there. We're just talking to them in the vehicles. Okay. Have you guys eaten today? Are you hungry? >> We already ate. >> You ate today? >> We already ate. >> How How far how long ago? >> Um just right just right now. Before you guys came >> before we got here, what did you guys eat? >> Um we had um we had some meat and some egg and stuff like that. Some meat and some what? >> Um, egg and bacon and all that. >> That sounds really good. >> Did you eat it here? >> Yeah, we ate it here. >> Did you all eat? >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> All ate. >> Is anyone still hungry? >> Mm-m. >> No. Are you guys thirsty? >> No. >> I have some water if you guys want some water. Are you guys thirsty? >> No. >> Yeah. Okay. My car in the middle there's a gallon of water. Go get it, please. >> Water. Yep. Right in the middle. Can you guys have like juice? >> Huh? >> Can you guys have like juice? Like Gatorade? >> Yeah. >> You allowed to? >> Yeah. Okay. I'm going to get you guys some Gatorade. Okay. Cuz it's kind of hot out here. And then you sure you're not hungry? >> I'm not hungry. >> You're not hungry? >> Really fast. Okay. >> Yeah, we'll let him come over here. Baby, don't >> have to keep it with you. >> We have We can have one of our detectives go back in and get your necklace with you. >> I don't have it in the room. >> I know. They They're They're locking down their house. I can't even go home. >> How about you? >> I can't even go home. >> Sir, do you want to come give your daughter? >> Let me have shoes. >> Would you like to give your kids another hug? They want a hug from you again. >> Yeah, please. >> My daughter knows where my necklace is. It's my grandmother's >> earn. Can she go? I know where she's taking it. >> I know where it is. >> Can she grab my necklace? >> No, because last time they tried to take >> We're just going to go on a trip, okay? And everybody's just What are you saying? >> Okay, he just wants it for himself. >> We understand. Let's put him in the car. I'm sorry. >> All right, we're going to go and head in the back of my car again. Okay, ma'am. Can I just tell them calm when I get out? >> I'll let him know for you. Okay. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Nice of you guys to help us out cuz I know we were slammed and this is >> that's how we've been out on >> but this has been like the kind of way of small punishment for a child case that we're working with this. So, But she's uh she's nice and calm. We just been chitchatting. So that way she's nice and uh nice and relaxed. So she's not going to be any issues for you. And hopefully we we talked about a good good game plan to go from here. Right. All right. So >> thank you. >> I'm going to go ahead and take these off you. Okay. And then I'll have my partner here put his on for you. >> All right. Just cuz all procedural stuff, right? >> Absolutely. >> But get that warrant taken care of. Okay. >> Yes. >> And then do what we talked about. All right. Hey, hey, listen. >> I almost feel like I don't want to tell >> it's it's it's stupid. All right. But we got to take care of it. And then once we take care of it, we can worry about the more important things. All right. Like your children. >> Okay. >> Keep you in front. Sounds like you've been pretty cooperative. >> I need I need to put them on behind me. >> Thank you. I kind of have a little bit back there. >> And then just remember that little uh analogy I shared with you about that tree. Okay. I'm It's going to stick with me now. >> All right. It's a nice little positive thing that especially us Midwesterners like to share with each other. I think we're able to relate better with one another when we do that. >> Yeah. >> Behind the right in front of this wheel. I'm just going to give you a quick check. I'm sure they already did. Turn around. >> Johnson and Edwards would be arrested and charged with three counts of child abrior convictions and a history of abuse would face a harsher penalty. While Edwards was held equally responsible for enabling the ongoing neglect, the girls were placed under state protection as the court considered permanently terminating parental rights. The case highlighted how repeated warning signs, missed school, utility shut offs, and children asking neighbors for food can accumulate unnoticed until the situation becomes impossible to ignore. But 9 months later, another 2-year-old, this time in Florida, would be trapped in a far more urgent and dangerous situation. Saturday, April 22nd, 2023, Fort Walton Beach, Florida. A neighbor called 911 after spotting a toddler covered in insects pounding on a window for help. Inside, officers find the 2-year-old had been deliberately locked in a filthy room, surrounded by rotting food, soiled diapers, and hazardous debris. The adults responsible, Tyler Peringer and Diamond Atkinson, both aged 21, had abandoned their psychiatric medications and left the child in conditions which posed immediate and long-term danger. >> He's got a plate of food in front of him. The amount of flies in this room in this window is it makes you think there's a body in this house. >> Where's the child? >> He's in my front seat right now. >> Doors are locked. We were able to push the window open and he's just sitting there so we scoop him up real quick. We're cleaning him. He's He's covered in either bites or burns. >> Did you take pictures? >> I did. >> Okay. >> Um, we have EMS coming to check him out right now. He's got like either a burn on his leg or really bad infected bite or or something. He's super dirty. Super super dirty. >> He's got like ant bites in between his fingers like in the webbings. >> We are 105ing these parents the moment they get here. >> You need to get all the facts before you decide what you're going to do. >> We need to clear the house. >> So, I'm going to go through the window and then I'll go through the window and come through the door. How many people live live here, guys? There's two. >> What? >> There's two people here. >> Yeah. >> How big is this dog? >> Uh, it's a pretty good size boxer. Hold on. >> Does he mean, let me call you back. I I don't know. I don't interact with him at all. >> I don't think the dogs >> Let me call you. >> I've come out here a few times when he was out here, but >> this is the I can't say for sure. >> This is the food outside though. I could >> He's not outside. I just want to help out. Okay. For Long Beach Police Department, if you're inside, make yourself known. >> Hey, Dustin. >> Yeah. >> Grab my hat. >> Why? >> The door is locked. >> What do you mean the door is locked? >> The interior. He's The kid was locked inside his room. >> You got it locked from the inside? >> Yeah. >> Neighbors called in said the mom and dad left the kid at home alone. >> Hey, baby. So, we show up and he's like literally just chilling in the window. Like 100 flies all over him. Just disgusting. He's got like some it looks like maybe some bites or something on his leg. His leg's pretty swoll. He's got like some ant bites and in between his fingers. Just like stupid [ __ ] >> You know where the parents are? >> They're not home yet. >> Well, no, I know that part. >> All right. So, we'll have him transported just to make sure he's good. >> Look, he's smiling. >> Yeah, he's good. >> Yeah, I know. We don't know how long. >> They said this morning. >> No. So, the neighbors said they've been gone for maybe 20 or 30 minutes now. >> Okay. >> But they SAID THIS IS LIKE A COMMON occurrence for them. Uh uh do you got a >> You got a higan? >> Yeah. You want to get in the house? >> I'm about to get in this house. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. You want to just go through the window and >> I can't. The freaking kid was locked inside the room. Hang on. Let's Let me make sure that >> Sergeant's okay with it. >> Are you itching? >> No, we're not going in right yet. >> There's no suspects. We don't suspect right now that there's anybody else inside. >> I'll be riding with EMS. We're going to be transporting the child to Port Beach Medical Center. So, there was a bowl. It had old old stale cold French fries. Uh a chicken tender, like a um old McDonald's chicken nugget on top of some gummy bears and then there was uh like rice on top of all of it and then bacon like a strip of bacon. And it was >> covered in in flies. And he's just sitting there just eating out of it. Banging on the window. Locked in his bedroom. >> Oh, fat guy in a little space here. >> Where' that food go? >> It's out here. >> Okay, there we go. We can unlock it and then put it back. There you go. He's got it. >> Police department, IF YOU'RE IN HERE, MAKE SOMETHING KNOWN. Police permit. >> Not better inside. See a [ __ ] wallet or an ID or purse laying around. >> Last name Parer. Papa India Romeo. India. November golf. Echo Romeo. First name Tyler. T Y L E R. I do not have a date of birth yet. Oh, we got a little puppy in here. Hi. Oh, we got a bunch of little puppies in here. 1241. Copy. Another name. Last name Atkinson. A T K I N S O N. First name Diamond. D I A M O N D. Do not have a date of birth for you. You know we found him in. You want to run through? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's the food. >> There's a dead bird right here. >> Yeah. That's the food that was on that he was left with. Are you one? >> Yeah, I'm on. >> Unbeknownst to me, there's some puppies right here. >> I didn't see those the first time. >> Hi. >> They look better taken care of than the child. >> Oh, you guys are so cute. They sleeping. One's stuck underneath the blanket. >> Yeah. Little white one. The white one. >> A Oh, they're so cute. or little >> um as said just general uncleanliness. >> Yeah. >> Nastiness. The you can tell that kids been sitting in there with dirty nasty diapers or diarrhea diapers. Little puppy in here. This is obviously their room. >> Hi puppy. >> Let food and stuff stack up and they're sitting there. >> Hi puppy. >> This is the room the kid is in. So it's just the doorork knob >> was locked on from the outside. >> Yeah, the doorork knob. So they had the >> So feces on the inside of the door >> feces. >> So but they change they put the lock on the outside of the door. >> Yeah. They would have had to reverse it. >> Okay. >> Uh yeah, that and then >> another one just sitting down there. >> Oh my gosh. >> And then this is where he was. And PC's all over the wall. curtains. More diapers under there. Those might not be dirty. I can't. It looks like um I don't know what this is about. I tried to open this and I feel like it's all going to fly out on me. So, there could be a dead body in there. I don't know. All this medication I took as the pictures. >> So, that's the only one that's open of this side. That's not open. >> Okay. This one might be opened. This one I don't even think has been opened. Yeah, it is. But this is supposed to be two a day >> from January 23rd. There's no way that you know he's taking that the way he's supposed to. This was February 15th. Supposed to take two capsules three times a day. >> Wow. >> Um and he's supposed to be two capsules by mouth with meals and one with snacks. for whatever he's got going on. So, obviously not taking his medication the way he's supposed to. I don't know how you're going to get a 2-year-old to take pills, but >> Oh, well, that's what that was going to be my next question is >> I don't know. >> How is Usually it's a liquid that they prescribe. >> Hey, Diamond. There's a Diamond and >> Tyler. >> Tyler. All right. Diamond. Go ahead and put your hands behind your back. >> I'm I'm diamond. >> You're diamond. Oh, Diamond. Go ahead and put your hands behind your back. Put Drop that. You and Tyler both are under arrest for aggravated child abuse, aggravated child, and multiple other charges forthcoming. >> Do you have any questions? >> Your child is going to be remanded into the custody of DCF pending a investigation and a family member to go and uh check them out. We got to go out the back. Cars are out back. >> Do you mind if we walk them through to our cars or you want us to bring a car around? We can go that way. Right there. Straight out. Straight out that way. >> Let's go. >> We get positive IDs. I don't know if he's got a wallet on. >> I do. I do. >> Yeah. I'll get it over here, man. Who are you guys with up there? >> Uh, that's her sister. >> Okay. Who's got the keys to the car? >> Uh, I should. >> You want me to give those to your sister or her sister or you want to take them with you? >> Uh, I prefer taking >> You just want to leave her stranded here? >> Uh, no. Dad's coming. >> Okay. Why didn't you want to take him out? Let me ask you. I have Listen, I have a kid of my own. So, I understand that toddlers are a lot to handle, but but why didn't you want to take him out with you? >> Because he was being really [ __ ] and I knew he was going to be crying the whole time. IT WAS REALLY HOT OUTSIDE AND LAST TIME WE took him, he was just he got hot. we had to leave early and he was crying and screaming and he got tired and it just we couldn't do anything and nobody was willing to take him and so we thought we could leave him for a bit and it was it was my fault that we left him because I know I suggested that we left him and we were originally going to take him and then he was just crying all morning I was just like I we can't break him I know the same thing is going to happened. And Tyler tried turning around twice. He did. It was my fault. He tried turning around twice and said, "No, we're supposed to go back home. Like, this is stupid." And I said, "I know, but we're we're not going to get another day out. We haven't been out in weeks. We haven't been able to enjoy ourselves." And my dog just had 13 puppies and 10 of them died because she orphaned them. And we were really stressed out. So, I was like, "No, we're going to have a day out. we're going to have one date where we can just enjoy ourselves and that was um it was my fault. Um we noticed a lot of uh like amount of diapers on top of his changing table and a PC cover diaper that was in like a little bookshelf. I mean if it was not there it shouldn't have been there. I mean, it definitely shouldn't have been there, but I don't remember putting anything on the ground within his briefs. If anything, he must have gone to it. But the diapers that should have been taken care of, we just change him and then put it there and then he take him out of the room and he just plays and we just get to another day. >> Okay. >> You want water or anything? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. What do you currently work at? car dream. >> Okay. >> Tell her, do you know why you're here right now? >> Can you tell me why you're here? >> I'm here because of bad decision thinking my son at home for about 3 hours. >> Can you tell me why you guys left him at home? Um my uh dog within the past two weeks gave birth to 13 puppies and uh we we were ready for it since we had our son and it was got to be close but it was she ate one and then and then we were so stressed about it. It was like we can't we can't leave her alone. We have to be this routine. And so for about 3 weeks now and she's been inside all day every day. Well, you know, I'm on work. I come home, I take over so she can pass out. We're just back and forth. So we, you know, like we need to get out. And we talked to some people like, can you come get No, my stepfather or ex he's my father figure. He went to uh Teladega NASCAR and my mother's home is in like a spot to where he can go hang out for a day. Um and her father isn't, you know, he he had stuff to do today, so he couldn't do it. And like, well, we're going to pick up her sister. Might as well just, you know, get him his medicine, get him his nib, get him fed. I mean, we were up since 6:00 in the morning getting ready. And I thought he could just chill in the room, take a nap, play. and we'll be well technically an hour away and uh I think we just it sounded reasonable being desperate I guess but you know I mean we were driving and we were waiting in traffic and we debated we sat there talked to each other you know maybe we should wait another weekend but we have stuff to do every other weekend and it just felt like that was it's just easier to curse yourself, you know, from what you already did. But yeah, it was just bad call. >> I did notice that the door handle on the door was locked from the outside in his bedroom. >> Yes. >> You did you lock him in before you left? >> We did. Yeah. He comes out in the middle of the night and we had to switch it. Uh I was having a hard time before, but cuz at first we would just put that baby kit. We had one in the kitchen. uh a wooden one, but he just ended up taking it down like two in the morning. So, we ended up just switching around. Uh I didn't think it was bad. I mean, considering it's either that or finding him in the kitchen, you know, in the middle of night. So, >> okay. I noticed he had like some some bites on him. >> Yeah. Somebody >> Yeah, we we were outside. Uh there's lots of mosquitoes. I I got a we on the front uh from my coworker. Um cuz there's just bugs everywhere and there's little prick leaves. So he he he just gets cut up sometimes. I remember one time he he ended up falling. We were outside on the concrete and busted up under his face. And so it's just stuff that walls. >> Okay. Why did you guys make the decision to leave him instead of taking him? >> Well, when we take him, you know, when we go places, he can't end up, you know, just touching anything. And it it's easier to take him to like Walmart when we go out cuz we have to go every other day. We're just not not too constant. It's usually a couple times a week. But uh it was just seemed easier, you know, because he didn't want to I'm not gonna say like participate and getting ready, but it was just being, you know, very upset and he didn't want to go anywhere. And I we're out front cleaning the car. She's coming back and forth taking my Tupperware from lunches back inside. And he just didn't want to he didn't want to go. I mean, just I cleaned his seat out and I was like, "We can get ready to go." And we waited a whole hour, but and we left around 1:20 because, you know, we weren't going to wait any longer. >> Is he does he diagnose with anything? >> Uh, yes. Yeah. Like in his second month of life, he was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis. >> When's the last time he has medicine? >> This morning. >> Okay. You know, we do it every morning and she does it when I'm at work. I'm gone before she even gets them. Okay. What did you guys do while you were away from the house? >> Uh, we went to the store, you know, just to hang out. We had a walk away and, you know, we walked, we ate, and then we were heading on our way back when we got a phone call from her father saying, "You need to go, you know, talk to some cops and go see your son." And, you know, he didn't give us too much information. He just said, you know, you you guys you guys up explain to me why. and we told him and he was like, "Yeah, I you should have just waited it out." And I mean, it's easier just to say that. I just I don't know. >> Ringer and Atkinson were charged with aggravated child abuse and aggravated neglect, felonies that can carry up to 15 years in prison. Each male would be set at $10,000 per defendant, prompting community outrage given the severity of the scene. The child was placed under the Department of Children and Families for medical and psychological care. The case illustrated how intentional confinement and extreme unsanitary conditions elevate neglect to criminal. Even so, one year later and 1,600 miles away from Florida, a newborn in New Mexico would be found fighting for life in a home marked by use and denial. Thursday, January 11th, 2024. Penasco, New Mexico. A routine welfare check turned critical the moment Darlene Gonzalez stepped outside of her home, shutting the door to block officer's view. When she finally emerged with her newborn, the infant's bluish skin revealed severe respiratory distress. Inside officers found unsafe living conditions and related connected to Ronald Martinez exposing that the child had been born into a dependent environment. >> Have you had your baby already? >> Yeah. >> How's your baby doing? >> Good. >> Is he here with you now or where's your baby at? >> Can we make sure he's okay? That's just our only concern right now. Okay. >> You're okay though? You don't need any help? You don't need any services? Nothing like that. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, we just got a call saying you might have had a baby and people haven't heard from you in a while, so we're just checking on you. Okay. >> Oh, he's okay. >> Can you bring your baby out here? >> Or can we come in? >> I know it's cold, but can we see him real quick? It's just part of our job. Okay. >> Yeah, he's fine and everything. >> You guys have food? You guys have running water here? >> Yes. >> Okay. Just turn the light on him. Okay. >> Did you go to the hospital when you had him? No, I didn't. >> No, you didn't. >> No. >> All right. So, can we have you go to the hospital just to make sure everything's okay? You want to ride with us? You want us to call you an ambulance to go? >> We could call an ambulance. >> You can go ambulance. Okay. So, we're going to call. Can >> I have a friend take me? >> Should I have a friend take me? >> Yeah, but we just got to make sure you go. Okay. >> No, I I'll go. >> Okay, cool. So, we just want to make sure everything's okay. Okay. >> Sound good? >> Yeah. >> So, u can you call a friend to come get you and take you down? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> What was your name, sir? >> Ronald. >> Ronald. Okay. >> Okay. What's the number? Ronald. Uh, >> could I ask who called? >> I don't know. It was an anonymous caller. Okay. So, that's why we had to come. >> Stop. >> Try again. [snorts] >> Hello. >> Hi, Mom. >> Hi. >> Uh, we need a ride to the hospital, I guess. >> Okay. Um, you know what? We don't have a car seat. Oh, >> so if we call an ambulance, it's no charge to you guys. Okay. >> All right. Well, I guess >> uh I don't know. But >> he doesn't have a car seat either, though. >> Uh the the the state police came over here. They wanted us to go to the to the hospital. Let me see what >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Let me know what happened. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Bye. >> So, give us a second. We're going to go home and it's okay. >> All right. >> Huh? >> Just late. >> No, I I get it. I understand. Okay. But just because he wasn't uh born at the hospital, we need to make sure that he's okay. you know, he's at the, you know, he's got proper weight, all proper nutrition, all that stuff. Okay? Um, it's my job, okay? It's nothing against you. With that being said, I will have to go inside and make sure that you guys do have food, running water, and heat. Okay? So, I have to go inside and look at all that stuff. >> So, can we do that? >> Let me talk to my husband. >> So, there's no if ends or buts. Either we go in or you guys are being arrested. Okay. >> For an um interference with the child uh welfare investigation. >> Okay. >> All right. Can you just give me a second? So, I can't let you close the door by yourself in there, but I can stand by the door. Okay. I won't go in. But either way, we're going to have to house. Okay. You can have them come to the door. >> They want to come inside the house. >> So, have them come out here so we can explain it to them. Okay. Hey, Ronald. Talk to us real quick. Okay, so here's the thing, okay? Because we did get a call saying we have to come check on your child. Um, we do have to make sure you have food, uh, running water and electricity. I mean, or and heat. Okay, I can see the chimney. I just got to make sure you have running water and food. Okay. Can we come and check on that? >> My house is a mess right now, but >> it's fine. That that doesn't >> that's what you guys say like every time, you know, when something else goes wrong, you know, >> as long as there's no weapons laying around. I mean, you know what I mean? Everyone's everyone's lifestyle is different. Okay. We can work with you. Okay. >> Can you guys show me the area where you keep um your baby? >> Huh? >> Does he have a place where he he sleeps? >> On the couch. on the couch right here. >> Right behind you. >> Right here. Okay. >> And do you guys sleep with him or how do you take care of them? >> I sleep with them. >> Okay. Do you have any water? >> Yeah. >> Hot water. >> I just got to feel real quick and make sure it's hot water. Okay. >> Yeah, I know. >> So, I have a couple questions. Okay. >> Have you guys been trying to clean up the place a little more since you had your baby? Yes. >> Okay. How's How long have you guys been working on that? >> Huh? >> How long have you guys been working on that? >> One day. >> Yeah. >> Huh? >> One day. >> Just one day. >> Yeah. >> Okay, sounds good. >> Can I have you guys walk over here for me? >> Can you guys have you guys go both walk to the door for me real quick? So, I was just going to explain what happened and why we're here right now. Okay. So, we got a call saying that you were pregnant. I don't know who called. Anonymous caller. I have no idea. Okay, guys. They were saying you possibly you were pregnant. You possibly had your baby here at home without going to the hospital. Um I don't think I don't think that's a crime. Um I'd have to go to check. Okay. As far as I'm concerned, it's not a crime. Okay. Uh you're wanting to get your son checked out at the hospital. You're okay with all that. So that's why we're, you know, so with that being said, because we have to you did have a child. We have to check to make sure the child's safe, healthy, he's got food, running, all that water. Okay. Um, I can see around the house. Okay. Um, do you guys need help with that? Do you guys need services we can guys get you guys clean? Um, were you using while you were pregnant? >> No. >> No. Okay. Sounds good. So, that that's just what's going on right now. Okay. >> Sound good? >> Yeah. Where? >> Espanola. >> Espanola. Okay. When uh How long was she in Espanola? >> She was playing school for an appointment in the morning and she's going to take us afterwards. >> Okay. And then um how long how old is your baby? When did you have him? >> 7:20. >> At 7:20 a.m. or PM? >> 720. Yeah. >> Okay. So, here's the deal. Okay. I did see a little container on the couch on it. Whose is it? Mine. >> Yours. Okay. So, we'll deal with that here in a little. Okay. Right now, we're worried about your son. Okay. We're going to let you go to the hospital with him and all that good stuff. Okay. Inside, officers confirm their worst fears. The house lacks even the minimum conditions for an infant. Amidst the general disorder, they also find Darlene denies using during pregnancy, but medical evidence pointed otherwise. In over 70% of cases of prenatal opioid exposure, symptoms appear within the first 72 hours of life. Her denial fits a common psychological pattern in addiction, minimizing immediate consequences to avoid accountability, even when a child's life hangs in the balance. Meanwhile, Ronald Martinez claims ownership of a container with residue that's located in the kitchen. That admission, far from cooperation, aligns with a dynamic often seen in couples. One takes the legal fall in order to shield the other despite their shared responsibility in sustaining a dangerous environment. >> So, because we see it, I mean, we can't let you guys stay in here by yourselves, but we're not going to. Nobody's under arrest as of this very moment. Okay? >> So, we're just going to wait here with you guys here. Okay. >> So, what's going to happen then? >> Huh? What's going to happen? >> Um, we'll probably type up a CCPC. You'll go to court for it. Um, I don't exactly know all the details at the time, but something along those lines. Um, my main concern is to make sure your son is safe, he's healthy, all that. Okay. >> He is. >> Okay. Do you use Cuz if you guys use, I would really like to get you guys help. That way, we can get you guys clean and then that way you can be with your son, you know, not have to worry about us or CP or anything. Okay. >> So, is anybody going to be arrested? >> Huh? Is anybody going to be arrested? >> Um, as of right now, no. Okay. Cuz like I said, we're worried about your son right now. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Does this go with you, Rama? >> Okay. Do you guys have everything you need? >> Do you guys have everything you need? >> I'll get my stuff. My diapers. >> Okay. Oh, where your diapers at? >> Right here. >> You guys weapons in this house? >> No. >> No guns? No, nothing. >> I see her there, too. Come on. >> How many animals do you guys have? >> Three cats and a dog. >> One dog. >> Is it just the one? >> We have to put the dog outside before we go. >> Okay. We'll get that figured out here in a sec. Okay. >> Keep him warm. Yeah, he looks he's has a good color and everything. Just >> Oh, yeah. He's fine. He's not our first. >> So, what's going on now? >> So, right now, um I want I would like for you to get checked out at the hospital, too. I know you say you're fine, but just just in case. Okay. Um I don't I wouldn't want >> You guys are more concerned about the baby. I'm fine. >> Yeah. But, um I And then that way you're not separated from your child on the way over there, either. You know what I mean? Um, so that's what I would like. [snorts] Um, so my concern was the bills. Okay. Um, that was my concern. I haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. Um, but as far as I know, your husband claimed ownership of it. So, um, that's why I needed >> You going to be arrested? >> Um, [sighs and gasps] so that's what I wanted to talk about. I know you guys just had your baby. Um, I wanted to talk to my sergeant about that. Like I said, I haven't got a chance to call him yet, but that's that was my concern. Okay. So, that's what we were talking about. Um, I would prefer probably not to, but I mean, a sergeant's a sergeant. Okay. You know what I mean? I take orders from a sergeant. Okay. >> This is not even his baby and that. >> It's not It's not his? No. >> Okay. Well, um that was my concern. Okay. Um so, just so you're updated. Okay. Um would you like to step outside to smoke or would you like to go to the ambulance? Um I would like them just to, you know, blood pressure all that on you two. Okay. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. >> I know, but just >> I think the cat >> I think they ran that way towards the back again. Yeah, pretty much. Oh, >> he's okay with my brother-in-law. >> Are we all right to close the door? >> I was like, right now, hey, calla, >> what you want to do? I was like, right now, I'm going to say no on there. Just asking if she's good to close the door. No, no. I was like, "Yeah, just leave it open." >> So, I don't know what it's going to happen with my dog then. >> Your dog? >> Yeah. >> Right now, we're told that he he'll be okay inside for at least a day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He's in the bathroom. My dad doesn't have a phone or that. >> You don't have a phone? >> No. Okay. >> So, what are we good to go to the hospital already? Me and the baby then? >> Uh, we're just waiting for that clarification, right? >> Yeah. So, right now, we're just holding here for right now. >> You're more than welcome to wait inside the um ambulance with your baby. >> Yeah. Well, I wanted to smoke the cigar. >> Okay. What I fig I just come in and sit in the car, close the door, you know. Mhm. So, it's cool. That seat straight ahead. Buckle up for us. >> There we go. Before we get to it, man. Uh, I got to advise you of your rights. Okay. >> So, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can be used against you in the court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer to have the law present while you are being questioned. If you cannot afford one, uh, one will be appointed to represent you before questioning. If you wish, you can decide at any time to exercise these rights and not answer any questions or make any statements. You understand your rights? >> The baby, Jesus Martinez, was diagnosed with neonatal abstinence syndrome, dehydration, and low weight, requiring urgent medical stabilization. Gonzalez was charged with child resulting in great bodily harm carrying up to 18 years in prison while Martinez faced fentanyl possession and thirdderee child abuse charges with potential exposure of 4 and a half years. CYFD took custody of the infant. The case underscored how previous abuse investigations involving the couple had failed, leaving a newborn reliant on a single welfare check for survival. Yet months earlier, in the heat of the summer, five children in Wisconsin had already been discovered hidden in a basement far away from public view. Monday, July 31st, 2023. Racine, Wisconsin. Officers and social workers found five children malnourished, dirty, and confined to a basement with no lights or running water. Their mother, Dasha Lutil Turner, and her partner, Laquan Russell, had moved across counties to evade CPS oversight after multiple previous reports were dismissed as unsubstantiated. The discovery exposed a level of starvation and isolation that revealed a catastrophic failure in Wisconsin's child protection network. >> There's appeared to be some 19 to 20 yearear-old females living in there who are not on the lease. um she was about to enter the basement, the landlord, and the 19 or 20-year-old said, "Oh, there's a family living down there." The landlord said, "What? Like, what do you mean?" Um, and one of the females said, "Well, my aunt just died." So, the landlord left it alone and she left. Today, she came back with her son with the carbon monoxide detectors to change, and she needed to get into the room in a basement. The door appeared to be locked, so she busted it down, and there were five or six kids in there. So, they said that the landlord came to install a carbon monoxide reader. There's only one person on the lease. Um, said they went to the basement >> and there was a locked door. They were going to put the carbon monoxide meter in there. >> Um, there was two 20year-old girls, 20, 19 year old girls that were in there. >> Um, he said they broke the door down and there was five kids. >> This is the landlord. Hi. >> Hi. So she could probably explain better what >> So what did you observe? >> Um well I've been I came over here twice already. The first time I came there was kids and stuff in the basement. People that are not even on the lease that are here. >> Um >> sir, you want to stay over here for a second? >> Detectors and carbon monoxidees in today and kids were in the basement again. I had to like kind of like pry the door open a little bit to get down there. No, there was no adult down there. Just little kids. >> How old? >> Like seven, eight to little babies. >> Okay. For the oldest, probably eight. >> Probably like seven. Yeah. >> No adults in the house. >> Uh the two were in that car in that white car. >> The two adults. >> Yes. >> We just called you over here in case we had to like force the door or whatever just so you could be in the loop beforehand. >> I couldn't hear anything on his phone. >> So I'm guessing you have keys or something like that >> there. the >> Yeah, I should have a key to get in, but there's not a door knob. You get the door. He's here to fix the door now. >> Oh, like it it's not working. So, you can just push it open. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Police. Police. We're here to check the welfare of the children. Hi. >> Can you put a shirt on and come down? Oh, I can. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, the door was like I knocked and it like kind of opened. >> So then there's a girl at the top here. >> Hi. Sorry to bother you. >> Police department. >> Yeah. >> Do you Do you live here? >> Yes. >> You do live here? >> Yes. >> You have an ID? >> No, I don't. >> Do you own one or it's just not here or what? >> I just don't have it here. >> You don't have it here? >> I'm confused. What the fuss is about? So, we're checking on the welfare of a few children. >> A few children? >> Yeah. There's supposedly children in the basement. We're going to check the welfare of those children. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Well, let me get their mother because you going to communicate with >> We need to know who you are first. >> Yeah. What's your name, ma'am? >> My name's Why? Your children, right? No, I don't have a kid. >> Okay. Then you have nothing to worry about. Let's get your information. I'm going to lead you to who we can talk to. >> Okay. Sure. Okay. >> We can come in. Um, so here >> Hi. >> So, you want to communicate with her? >> Excuse me, >> Derek. You want to get her name real quick and then I'll just maintain this. >> Hi. >> Hello. >> Sorry to bother you. >> Are you their mother? >> Yes. >> Are all these children yours? >> Yeah, they're all mine. >> Okay. Do you have an ID on you, ma'am? >> Uh, no, I do not. Do you do you own an ID? It's just not here or >> Yeah, it's just not here in >> Oh, where would it be? >> It's actually in the vehicle and it's not >> what vehicle boyfriend. >> Who's your boyfriend? >> They're Well, what's his name? >> Huh? >> What's his last name? >> Russell. >> Huh? >> His name Russell. >> Laquan Russell. Who's it? >> Uh, I have I have no idea. >> What's your car look like? >> It's a gold. >> Gold? >> Oh, okay. So, you live here in the basement? >> Yes, for right now. Yes. Right now, I don't understand for a few days. >> Oh. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to shine the light on the little one there. >> So, someone was was concerned about them. >> Yeah. They were saying that the >> Do you know who that would be, though? Like, who would be >> I don't know. Do you have anything with your name on it? I just I just need to identify you. >> When somebody contacts the police department about something, we're actually not allowed to say who it was. You >> You don't have anything with a debit card, a some sort of benefit card or >> Oh, right here. >> Perfect. You did have it. >> No, I didn't even know if it was in there. >> So, you don't live on Randolph anymore? >> No, >> that's old. >> Yeah, that's old. Yeah. >> Okay. >> How long have you lived here? >> About 15 days. >> 15 days. >> Yeah, it been that long. So, you don't know this person who called you guys? >> No, I know who it is. I'm just not allowed to tell you. >> Okay. So, I don't know why people would be concerned for the kids. >> They they were concerned because apparently the basement was locked and there were children down here being unsupervised. So, they were worried about the conditions for the children and if they were locked in the basement. >> So, that's why HSD >> with them. >> HSD is here to check the welfare of the children. And that's the only reason we're involved is because they need to gain access to make sure that everybody's okay. >> Oh, yeah. And they're fine cuz I'm I'm pretty much almost always here. >> Then it shouldn't be a big deal. We'll be out of here in a couple minutes. >> I just want you guys to know that I'm always here with them. So, >> okay. >> Well, >> they're they're not left. >> I'm not actually in charge of anything here. I'm just here to make sure that they're able to do their job. >> Well, I thought I was in some type of I'm like I'm always here with them. I'm always >> as of right now. I don't think that you're in any trouble. I don't know that you're in any trouble. Um, I'm just here to make sure that they're able to do their job. >> That's all I'm doing. >> Okay. >> And I'm just information gathering cuz anytime I talk to somebody, I got to say who I talked to. >> Okay? >> You know what I'm saying? >> I have a 29. When you're ready, last name Turner, Tom, Union, Robert, Nora, Edward, Robert. First name Deja, David, Adam, Sam, Henry, John, Adam. >> Are you And I'm going to totally botch this. Is it Desanna? >> Deja. >> Deja. I was really wrong. Hi, Deja. My name is Dakota and I work with Racing County CPS. How are you? >> I'm 5 years old. >> You're good. Thanks. Thank you. So, I just want to talk to you. Are these all of your babies? >> Yes, they're mine. >> They are. And how old are all your kids? >> They're uh the oldest one, she is going to be 15. Then we have the other ones. My youngest one is going to be one. The other one's going to be two. I have a seven and eight. >> And then seven. >> Seven. >> Eight. And how old is this one? She's one. >> She's She's one. >> Yeah. >> What about the other one? >> Two. >> Two. >> Go ahead. >> So, can you can we start by Can we go from oldest to youngest? And can you spell their first names for me? >> I'm going to go by him. But just so you know. >> Hey, how the kids? >> Their mother once again. And you know that. Stop lying. >> Okay. >> Hey, >> she need to go find something safe to do. She always trying to be picking with somebody. Girl, you weird. Copy. >> Everybody clear up here? >> Yeah, they're clear. >> Are they involved at all or what's their deal? >> So, they're saying, >> "Please make it make sense." >> Their uncle died. >> But you worried about these kids. >> Their uncle died and that they're here to visit for the funeral arrangement and that's like where they're staying for now. >> But that was both of their stories was they're here for a funeral and they're staying here. >> So, they're not related to her? >> Who? No, I'm >> No, you're not related to the lady downstairs. >> I'm related to the her boyfriend. >> Oh, okay. >> It's the uncle. My uncle that died is his brother. >> So, I'm not related to her. I'm related to uncle. So, they're just here with him. >> They got kisses. >> Okay. And they just came here because there was a funeral for your uncle. >> Yeah. We didn't even have the funeral yet. That's why we're trying to explain this to her. >> So, the father of these children, who is that to you? >> My uncle. >> That's your uncle? Yeah. >> So, he's deceased. >> No. >> No. Your uncle's alive? >> Yes. >> Who's your uncle? >> Brother. >> Who's your uncle? >> Who? >> Who's the one that just died on that? >> No. Who's the father of these children? What's that person's name? >> They are not all his kids. That's like two of them are >> Who's the one you're related to? >> Quan. >> Quan. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Who's to you? >> That's my That's my kid's father. This is his house. >> So, where are your kids? >> My one kid is upstairs. There's other ones with his grandma. >> So, you don't have any children downstairs? >> No. >> Okay. >> These are not our kids. >> You have no kids here? >> I have zero. >> She has zero kids. >> Okay. >> My one is upstairs and she's out like >> Okay. Okay. Sorry. I'm just trying to figure out all the >> interconnecting webs of how everybody's connected. >> So, one more time. That's your >> uncle >> uncle's girlfriend. >> Girlfriend. >> Her kids. >> Okay. >> All right. Do you guys go upstairs? I thought we didn't live here, right? >> So, how you going to send somebody upstairs? But we don't live here. We don't pay rent here, right? That girl need to mind her business cuz I guess she has y'all want to search the whole crib and do all that for what? >> I didn't say that. >> So, WE NEED TO GO UPSTAIRS FOR IT. >> SHE said send the upstairs. >> That's what I'm saying. Send who? >> Because you're being loud and we're trying to conduct investigation in the >> investigation of what? >> Possible child or neglect. feeling child. >> If you'd like to keep impeding the the investigation, you can go to jail. How about that? >> Okay, bye. >> I don't care. What did you not arguing with them? This is the police is different when you're arguing with her ass. >> Hello, mom. >> They got him. Cuz baby, they can just lock this up like that. >> So maybe just go away. >> All I'm asking you is to be quiet and go away. >> Arguing. I'm sitting here on the phone. This ain't got nothing to do with me. I never knew it was so difficult. >> Do you ever watch the kids or does anybody here besides mom ever watch the kids? >> The mom don't go nowhere. I had to like kind of like pry the door open a little bit to get down there. No, there was no adult down there. Just little kids. >> Okay. If she did go somewhere >> if she did, I would be the one here. >> And you would watch the kids. You would be okay with that? >> Okay. >> I have my own two kids. I don't I wouldn't mind here. >> And how long before you guys came here? How long were you guys living in the apartment or in excuse me in the hotel? >> Uh about month. >> I got to get on that. >> And what were you guys doing before the hotel? >> What were we doing before hotel? We were um we were living. >> You were living in an apartment. >> What happened to the apartment? >> Oh, got really expensive. >> Okay. And then have you guys found an apartment that's in your price range at all? Oh, the most that work is like 930 right now. Have you found one that's in that price range? >> Uh no, most like >> it was like maybe up or down. >> So, who lives in here? >> The whole house >> like the whole Is this like a duplex? Is this a like how does how is this house kind of broken up into? Well, >> so like coming in this door and going upstairs, is this part of this house or is this is that a different house? >> It's So who is that? Who all lives in here? >> You can. She's I mean you I'm not going to give anyone information. >> Okay. No, you're good. You're good. >> Cuz I'm not going to give people names and you know what I mean. >> No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. >> I have you guys. >> What >> have you guys told me? >> No. >> No. Okay. So >> yeah, we were kind of waiting on like your final safe. >> We're taking them into custody, but it's a lot easier to tell her we're taking them into custody because you guys are arresting her instead of going into a lot of details um because without a doctor telling us um that the kids are malnourished, although with our medical with our like professional opinion, they observe malnourished, which is why they need to go to the hospital, but we can't say that. >> So it's a lot easier. >> Okay, so we're up. Um, but can you get the mom's number of the kids downstairs and any information on dad at all? >> All right, Miss thing. I need a few things from you. >> What is your phone number? Okay, so I know you've been reluctant about the dad's name, but now I now I need it. >> Mhm. Now I need his information. It's important that I know who he is, where he is, and what what kind of where he is, if he's coming back, what the situation looks like with him. >> Yeah, I don't know where he is right now, >> and that's totally fine. I just need >> I ain't going to tell you his name. So I ain't the one I tell you. I ain't got kids on him. I ain't the one him. But he told me he was in Milwaukee. >> So he's hereish >> in Wisconsin but not here. >> Wisconsin. >> Okay. So I can I have his first name? You guys can rock paper scissors on who tells me. >> So like I have cuz I don't feel like I have to like I'm obligated to give you guys his name. >> Um I really can tell her something cuz I've been in this position. I think your best bet is to tell them the name or else it's just going to go left. Everything's just going to flip right over. >> Well, I don't know about that, but >> Okay. >> No. Yeah, I don't want to do nothing to go left. >> But it's uh like you said, like you said, it's probably best bet. >> Uh, it's Laquan. >> Will you spell it for me? >> L A Q A N. >> Last name is Russell. >> Yeah. >> And what's his date of birth? >> His date of birth is >> [laughter] >> I don't >> who are who is the daddy for the other three? Like who are the dads for everybody? >> So you their their names, too. >> Mhm. >> Oh lord. See, that's one thing I don't do is I don't like to give people names out when they're not here. You know what I mean? >> Yep. And I totally get that. >> I'm not trying to argue with you guys. >> So there's here's a situation is you have a warrant right now. >> Okay. So, we're going to take you in and they're going to take the kids for until you get this sorted out. >> Okay. >> So, they need the parent the father's contact information so they can handle things. >> Do you know what that's for? >> Non-support. >> Non-support. It's body only. >> Yeah. And it's body only. So, >> it's who? Body. >> Body only. So, that means we have to take you in. >> You can't find out. >> Yeah. >> You have to see a judge. >> Okay. >> So, because you're going to jail, there's nobody to care for your kids. So, they have to be taken into custody by me. Okay. And then so you said it's what is that like what is it? Basically you have to go to court. You cannot get bonded out. You have to go to court. >> So you go to jail right now and they put a bond on your thing. We can't bond you out regardless. Like you have to see a judge first. You have to see a judge. >> And that's why the kids are going with them because you probably won't see a judge until the morning. >> The morning. Tomorrow morning. I will be able to go see a judge tomorrow morning. >> I would probably basically Okay. Cuz she probably confused. I never got I sugar coated. You're going to jail today and you won't be a judge. >> That's basically is what the is telling you. >> You're going to jail. You're seeing the judge tomorrow. N out of 10. It's not like >> Okay. >> So, basically your dad's contact because you're going to jail. If you don't give it to them, they're going with her. So, that's what I'm trying to tell you. >> Well, they're coming with me regardless. So, I'm taking them into protective custody. And depending on where they go from here, whether they go with their fathers or a friend or a family member that you have is where they is where they can go. >> Question. So she has to understand cuz I feel like she should at least know. Is she going to be able to know where her kids are when she gets out? >> When she gets out, most definitely. >> Okay. So I Okay. >> So this is all information so they have so your kids can go to the right places until you get your figured out. >> I don't I don't want them to go into foster care. I want them to go with a relative that you have or a friend that you have or or anything anybody that is willing to watch your kids for the time being. But because you're going to jail, I have to take them into custody. And so I I don't know all the basis as far as like going in front of a judge for your bond, but we for like a department for child protective services, you and I will have court on Wednesday. Okay? And I'll give you paperwork to show you when court is, the address, and what time it is. Okay? >> Okay. But if you're still incarcerated when court is supposed to happen, I'll tell the judge and they'll pull you so you can come to the court hearing. >> Okay. Now, you said that'll be w a Wednesday. >> Yep. That'll be on Wednesday. >> Okay. This coming up Wednesday. >> Yep. In um uh like two days. >> The second court, you said maybe tomorrow >> Yeah, I would think for the bond or the warrant probably tomorrow. I don't >> I would guess so. That's normally how they do it for criminal. It's a non-sport warrant. So, I don't know if they need to go to family court for that. I'm not sure how it works. It'll be sooner rather than later. I promise you that. >> So, it's not going to be like a week or two or anything like that. >> Not to my knowledge, it won't be anywhere close to that. >> Okay. And then this is for you said for a what now? >> Non-sup support. >> So, non support is >> child support. >> Child support. >> Okay. So, that's the word I'm going for child support. >> Mhm. >> Like not pay like with me having my kids. That's what I'm going for. Not paying child support or what? >> Yep. >> I had to pay child support. >> I guess so. That's what we're paying for this. We can we're going to go ahead. We're going to confirm the name. We're going to confirm the amount. We're going to confirm the warrant. Make sure it's for you and your date of birth and all that. I promise you that we will make sure it's 100% legit for you. But that's what we're being told is that >> Do you have children outside of this house? >> No, I don't have any children. >> Please. >> Yeah. I'm just kind of lost for non support. I'm like I don't have to pay. I have my children in my custody. >> And you have 100% custody? >> Yes, of my children. I have 100% custody. Like their father had their fathers have never been in their lives. >> That is weird then. >> And I have 100% custody. >> Yeah. >> Do you um do you have anything you need from here? Like a phone or anything like that? >> Uh yeah, my phone. >> Your phone? Where is that at? >> It's down on the bed. >> Down on the bed. >> So, is it going to go with me then or >> do you want it to go with you or do you want it to stay here? >> So, is it like going to be put somewhere else then when I go in? >> It'll be put with your things. So, they'll keep it with you at the jail. Um, you can just, um, leave it here. >> What was that? >> Oh, you can just leave it here, I guess. I mean, I don't know if she'll keep it upstairs or not. >> All right. You're good with her then. >> Yep. Natalie, >> here is all your forms. So, just so you know, um, so we're going to take the kids into custody. Okay. Um, because you're not here, okay? Cuz you're going to jail right now. So, we want to make sure that they're taken care of. >> So, will they once I get will they be back with me? It all depends that it's all going to depend on what happens with everything with you. Okay. Um did you get information about any sort of relatives or any family that we could reach out to >> attempted? Nothing was really gathered. Do you have anybody? >> Do you have any relatives or family >> that I could talk to >> about placing the kids with? >> Um that's not in this home. >> Oh, that's not in this home. Um, probably my brothers. Your brothers? >> I don't know their number, but I highlight. >> But you can get if you know their names, their like first and last name, we can try to find their contact information. >> Okay. >> Is it on your phone downstairs? >> Yeah. Oh, okay. >> Also, it's this way. Sorry. >> It's on the bed, you said? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, I just want to show you this. Okay. So, this is just saying that we're taking and there's five of them here for all your kids. Okay. Each one is on their own piece of paper. and it's just saying that the conditions of the home and that they they seem to be malnourished. Okay. So, we're going to take them into custody. You will have a court hearing on the 2nd >> at 8:30 a.m. Okay. It's at the law enforcement side with >> building. Yep. That's with us. >> Anything the criminal side, whatever this warrant is, we have nothing to do with. Okay. So, this is just for the child. Okay. >> 6 months. for >> so if you're still for some reason you would still be in custody we can request that you are brought to this hearing okay so we'll make sure that you're present if you're still in custody if not make sure you show up on Wednesday cuz you want to be there it's um mandatory okay >> um Wednesday comes too >> yes >> okay >> but we we'll get a hold of Russell um that uh it's 8:30 in the morning >> at the law enforcement center okay >> what do do you need from here? >> If she has any names of relatives that um we can write down so that we can see if they can take care of your children until you're out and then we can be able to get it out there or do you guys have to >> get one out the phone number >> if you I don't while you're can you for her? Is there anyone else that you can think of? >> No. >> Okay. Then we'll we'll do our best to get a hold of and see what he says. Okay. >> Get out. you have somebody to call. That's why they didn't want to stop. >> So, this should be a quick process, right? >> I would think so. >> Turner ultimately pled no contest to three counts of child causing great bodily harm and would be sentenced to 6 years in prison and 9 years of extended supervision. Russell accepted a plea deal for intentional. His sentencing is pending. All five children became permanent wards of the state. The case triggered a statewide review of CPS procedures after it was confirmed that six earlier warnings had been closed without proper investigation. But just one month before that discovery in Indiana, it was not a mother, but a father whose actions were exposed when neighbors found his child wandering alone in an apartment building. Saturday, June 17th, 2023, Portage, Indiana. A neighbor contacted police after a 9-year-old boy with developmental disabilities had wandered into a nearby apartment wearing only his underwear. When officers check the home, they find that he had been left unsupervised for an extended period despite a severe communication limitations. Neighbors describe previous incidents, indicating that this was part of a recurring pattern rather than a single lapse. When Terry McKini returned home, his shifting explanations failed to justify why his son had been left alone. >> Where's your dad? [clears throat] >> Dad? >> Where's your dad? >> Dad? >> Yeah. Where's your dad? Talk to me. >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Who's home with you? >> Daddy. >> Where's he at? Oh, you're not going to shut the door. Where's dad at? >> You don't know? >> Don't know. >> Hello, Portidge Police. HELLO. >> HELLO. >> All right. Come here. [snorts] Where do you Where's your room at? >> Where's dad's room? Hello, Porsche police. Anybody in here? >> The empty apartment confirmed that the child had been left without supervision for a prolonged period of time. >> All right, we're not going to walk out there. You're not dressed. Okay. >> Okay. Where's Do you have a phone to call dad on? >> Call dad. Huh? >> Yeah. >> Nope. No. Nope. >> Order is going to Can I see your phone? >> Is it unlocked? >> Hold on. I'm looking at it. >> This rabbit's helicopter. >> Your phone doesn't work. Oh, look. >> Okay. You have a charger for it? >> Let's see. >> Hold on. >> Come here. >> Go sit on your bed. >> The boy's urge to leave the apartment again reflected restless behavior typical of a lack of containment. >> Unlock it. >> Unlock it. >> Put the code in. Put the code in the iPad. >> Come on. [screaming] >> In the land. [screaming] >> You have games on here. >> Can you show me? >> Show me. >> Yeah, show me. >> Show me. >> Rescued Daddy Pig. >> [laughter] >> What's your dad's name? >> Your dad's name. [clears throat] Do you know what your dad's name is? >> No. >> No. No. No. No. No. Stay in here. >> Have a seat. Have a seat. >> What did they say? The female's name was the female's name. Do >> you know what his name is? >> Okay. >> When was the last time you saw dad here? >> I mean, everybody minds their business, >> right? >> Um, I feel like this is definitely not the first time he was left alone because like, you know how he said? >> Mhm. >> I hear that all the time in my apartment during the day. Never at night, but during the day. >> So, I just when he started sending the door, I was like, >> "Do you know what the dad's name is?" >> No. >> It should be in the mailbox. Honestly, the throw. >> Okay. Okay. But you are going to tell them that I was >> What time did he come into your guys' apartment today? >> Just like I >> the first time. >> Okay. >> We went and talked to I tried. >> Yeah. >> And that's when he ran like opened the door and >> Well, he did it twice. And then after the second time, I tried like going up talking to him and I tried like kissing me and stuff and then I came up again and then he didn't he stopped for like a good like hour. It was a couple hours. This like the first time I came in was when he first woke up. It was at like 9:00 and then I just left to go to the bank >> and this happened like >> he came in when she was gone. Yeah. >> About 20 minutes ago. >> So about 1:00ish he came in. Was that the second time or? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> 9:30. >> So they've obviously been gone since >> morning. >> And both times he just walked right in. >> Yeah. And I wanted to ask the neighbor was like, "He's tried doing that, but I know everybody just minds their business here." >> Okay. And what did >> what was he doing when he came in both times? Like >> um the first time he just like >> opened it. You were I was on my bed and he walked in and my friend on the couch and like he knows her cuz he like just seen it. I just moved in. So he was like he looked at us and then it looked like he was looking for her and then once I kind of got up like what the hell? He ran away. >> Yeah, he was. >> He started dancing. He made some sort of noise. He was wearing a boolean chain crown. >> Um, yeah. >> But he was how he is right now, like in just in his underwear. And then this morning when he came in, what did he do? >> Oh, then No, that's what he did. >> Oh, that was this morning. What did he do at >> just now? >> Yeah. >> Oh, he just stuck his head in and then he was like, "Oh." And like he said something and then he ran out. >> Okay. And you said this has happened before today. Had it happened before today? Um it last night he tried coming in too but the door was locked. >> My friend I mean we didn't know it was him at first and that makes sense cuz we couldn't see anymore over those teeth holes. >> Well Bella said that she said like it was a kid. It was Okay. >> All right. If I need anything else for me I'll give you a call. >> Thanks for calling. >> What's your name? >> I found a ticket over here for dad. >> Can I see your tablet? I just want to see this real quick. >> Mummy pig is in her study doing important work on her computer. >> Here's your table. Okay, buddy. >> I'm going to white page this man. See if I can get a phone number. >> Come on, bub. >> Hey, come here. I got something for you. >> He's got a present for you. >> Present. >> What's up, man? >> Hey, just Terry. >> My name's Me. So, I'm Megan. Um, >> service. >> What' you do? >> What did you do? >> Portage 182. The mail is on scene. >> I got you. Sorry. could bother you. >> What did you do? [clears throat] >> So, he was running around uh with no >> way. Sorry about that. >> I mean, he he did this early this morning, too. So, how long have you been gone? >> I just I didn't sleep. >> I just I just >> Yes. >> I just I just had to >> I'm assuming you're terried, right? Yes. >> Um, yeah. So, they got a call that he was running around this morning. >> He went into your upstairs neighbor's apartment. He just walked right in. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. He has autism and I just ran to the store to go get some things and everything cuz I take it on with me sometimes and that tablet. He be how he dies. He be acting crazy. So, I I know that's the thing that I know is stupid. But >> yeah. >> Okay. Um, so my concern is that him being left alone it >> is never >> Okay, I I'm going to have to call my supervisor just to I'm going to step out and call my supervisor cuz this was not a safe like even while we were standing here he kept running out. >> He ran out several times. >> Um, if anything, if we were to have to detain, is there anywhere a family member that he could go to? >> Uh, yes. his basically his his mom. But >> okay. >> Uh but >> do you have him full time? >> Yeah. I mean I I I just have him because I I have him a lot. You know what I'm saying? So >> it's 50/50. >> Yeah. It's more like it's more like she got joint 50/50. I'll say that. >> Okay. >> What is mom's name? >> Okay. Is there a phone number that I can reach her at? >> Um >> Okay. Do you have a phone number for her? >> Uh no. I don't have one for her right now. Uh, okay. She uh she's uh I don't have Wi-Fi right now. >> Okay. Okay. I'm going to call my supervisor real quick. >> Okay. >> Um >> I mean, you see our dilemma here, though. [clears throat] Yeah. >> I mean, cuz I've been here for well over an hour. >> Right. Right. >> And you know, I I >> And your upstairs neighbor here, he at 9:00 this morning, he ran into their apartment, started dancing around in his underwear, and then ran out. They didn't know where he went, so they But he did it again at 1:00. So, and they were able to follow him down here. So, then >> I went to sleep. I I was sleep like >> So, then they knocked on the door at 1 and he answers and obviously you're not here. >> Um, so I mean, and we're going on 3:00 now. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. That's I was >> What store were you running to? >> I was at I was doing [clears throat] my little I I was doing my little Uber Eats thing. I I just had an order. I >> So, you're making deliveries? I I was making just make just a quick delivery. Then I went to get him some food and everything. I know I take him with me, but he you know he going to adjust to this time like >> Did you get him food? >> Yeah, I I did. I left in the car because I was rushing because I I know what was I had to come back here to check up on my son. I was like >> when questioned, McKenna gave explanations that shifted over time and did not provide a clear account of why his son had been left without supervision. For the officers and the DCS supervisor, these inconsistencies would point to a lack of reliability in his version of events and raised concerns about his ability to meet the responsibilities of custody. In child protection investigations, clarity and coherence are essential since they determine whether a child can remain safely in the current environment or must be placed under alternative care. Each contradiction, no matter how small, diminished his credibility as a caregiver and reinforced the decision to maintain closer oversight through formal monitoring. >> It's just not going to happen again because I I can't I can't I [clears throat] I I >> Is there previous incidents like this? >> No. No. No sir. >> I mean, listen, we both He's special needs obviously. Okay. Um, >> even while you're here, at the very least, you should have some sort of safety, child safety locks on here >> up high because I mean, he figured out the dead bolt and all that pretty easy. And, you know, he's been running back and forth. We chased him down the hallway several times cuz he, you know, he'll dash out of your room out into there. you know, I I know he be >> it's, you know, it's just >> like you're you're kind of putting me in a rock between a rock and a hard place here because honestly, I have enough to take you to jail right now for child. >> Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no. I don't need that, sir. I'm sorry. >> Okay. It'd be one thing if he was like fully, >> you know, with it and, you know, able to take care of himself, but he's he can't even talk barely. Okay. >> He can't communicate like a normal person. So, I mean, how is he supposed to take care of himself? >> Yes, sir. >> I mean, so you see where I'm at? >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I see where you at. I I should It was just a bone head on my on my head, please. Please. >> Um, so what we're going to do is we're going to sit down and we're going to do a safety plan, okay? And we're going to probably open an IIA, which is an informal adjustment, which does not involve the courts or anything. Um, you'll just have a case manager that's up to six months. They will make like weekly stops by just to make sure like everything's going okay. Get you the things you guys need. Okay. >> Yes. It It was It's It was It was mainly me. I It's It's It's It's >> He just He could not be alone. >> I It's It's It was just something I just >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I won't leave you alone. It's >> So, Dad came home. Um CPS at this point wants to just do a safety advisory check with him or something like that. I guess they go through like options for resources and stuff since he has a special needs son and that kind of thing. >> McKenna was charged with a level six felony neglect of a dependent carrying up to 2 and 1/2 years in prison and restrictions on future custodial rights. Indiana's Department of Child Services implemented a structured monitoring plan with home visits and safety requirements to protect the child. The case underscored the vulnerability of children with disabilities when supervision breaks down and