What's up? Hey, officer. >> How are you? >> All right. How you doing? >> Where's your other hand at? All right. You have a driver's license on you? >> Yes, sir. >> I'm deputy chemist office. The reason I stopped you is why you driving like that? >> I'm trying to get some Taco Bell before it closes, honestly. >> Huh? >> I said I'm trying to get to Taco Bell before it closes. >> How much have you had to drink tonight? >> Can I tell you've had a lot? >> Huh? >> No, sir. No. You haven't had any? >> No, sir. >> Okay. License register. Why'd you roll your window up? >> Huh? >> Why'd you roll your window up a little bit >> when I came up to the side of the car? >> Because that's how I always have a window. >> Oh, well, your window was all the way down. That's why I was asking. >> Officer, come on, please. >> I'm just asking a question. That's all. I was just asking >> responding to your question. Okay. Right. So, you were in and out of traffic. You were in and out of the lane. >> Yeah. >> All right. Why? >> Why do you keep rolling your window up? >> Well, you know what? If you need to talk to me, you can talk to my attorney. >> I can talk to your attorney? >> Yep. Here you go. Here's my license. Here's my registration. I have my um detaining me. >> You have your I have your what? I can't hear you. Your window's up and I can't hear you. >> I said unless you're detaining me. here. >> Well, you are you are detained. This is a traffic stop. >> Okay. So, my license, my registration, and my insurance I will get for you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Well, I already have your insurance. I got that. So, the issue at hand is that number one, you're doing 55 and a 45. Okay. You're doing 10 mph speed limit. Okay. Failure to failure to maintain lane. Okay. You were all over the roadway, which is all captured on dash cam. Okay. So, that's why I'm asking now. Now, I have it under the suspicion that you're under the influence of alcohol. >> I'm not, but okay. Okay. Well, and your license is suspended and there's a cease tag order on the car. >> My license? >> Yes, sir. >> That is incorrect. >> Okay. Well, there's a couple different ways we can go about this. We can go about this. >> I'm not I I >> Well, you keep rolling the window up on me. Okay. You keep rolling the window up on me and there's no reason to. I haven't given you a reason to roll the window up on me. Thank you. Okay. I've addressed you very politely, actually, and then you keep saying, "Well, you can talk to my attorney." There's nothing to talk to your attorney about. >> Okay. And that's what I'm trying to tell you. >> Sure. >> There's a couple different ways we can go about this. Okay. And thank you for cooperating, rolling the window down. Understand. How much have you had to drink tonight? >> I have not had anything to drink. >> You haven't had anything to drink like that? Okay. >> All right. What about registration? Do you have that? >> Um, I'm getting it for you. >> Huh? >> I am getting it for you. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> And um Honestly, my frustration. Um, >> I'm not sure which paperwork this is because I just am recently incarcerated. I was recently incarcerated 5 months ago and I'm not sure about the registration. That should be it. >> Okay. So, the registration's good, but your insurance is effective uh 2020. >> So, the insurance I have another one I have uh another one that's actually two days. I can show you that it's uh >> what >> my phone I'm not I uh it's obviously at my house. I left I came to get Taco Bell. I apologize. >> Okay. >> Is this your correct address? Newport Richie. >> Um that's my brother's address. I live at uh uh Newell >> Newell >> and Port Charlotte. >> Okay. Well, your phone's not at your house. Probably because of your driving behavior. Your phone's on the ground right there in front of you by your foot. >> So, that's probably where my phone is. >> That's That's is where your phone is cuz I can see it right there. Anything in the vehicle that I need to be aware of, guns, knives, zucas, hand grenades, IDs, dead body parts, copious amounts of Halloween candy, a whole bunch of construction equipment, anything like that that I need to be worried about. stolen boat motors, anything like that? No. >> That's cute. No, sir. >> That's cute. Okay. Well, that's my spiel that I give and I give that to everybody. Okay. And you said you're coming from your house, right? To get Taco Bell. >> I am. >> And you haven't had anything to drink tonight? >> No, sir. >> Okay. Would you mind doing me a favor and just step out of the vehicle for me? >> I will. >> All right. You will not step out of the vehicle? >> Okay. Why not? >> Because this is a um inconvenience of my time. >> This is an inconvenience of your time. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. So, once again, we're going to go back to the talk. Okay, that I gave you earlier when you tried to roll the window up on me. >> Okay, I'm going to have to ask you to step out of the vehicle, okay? Because like I told you, your license is suspended. There's no insurance on the vehicle. I'm going to get you a warning for all the other things that I said earlier, like the speed and the lane departure, okay? We're only making it harder by you. >> So, put the vehicle I haven't said you're trying to fight with me, but you're being very hesitant. Okay? And I don't understand why. >> Okay? Do me a favor. There's no weapons in the car, right? >> Okay. Step on out for me. All right. Sure. >> Thank you, sir. >> Go ahead. Stand right over there. >> Let me see your phone real quick. >> Uh, no. >> No. Let me see your phone real quick. >> You cannot see my phone. >> Okay. >> You're not going to see my phone. >> You don't need to be on the phone while we're No, I do. We actually >> No, you don't. I do. >> Hang the phone up. >> Hang the phone up. I do. No, I'm calling my friend. Hang the phone up. He's my attorney. >> Okay. Hang the phone up. >> No, you're going to stop right now. >> I'm I'm asking you to hang the phone. >> Handcuff me for what? >> I'm not resisting. I'm asking you to hang the phone up. You're not going to handcuff me cuz I'm I'm I'm relaxed. >> Listen. >> I'm relaxed. I'm letting you go ahead. Stretch my vehicle. >> We're not We're not this >> I'm asking you to hang the phone up. >> Thank you for calling home inspections. That doesn't sound like Scott Weinberg. Hey sir, call Scott W. >> I'm asking you to hang the phone. Are you calling 911? >> No, he's calling. >> I'm I'm calling my attorney because um right now you are violating my rights. I don't gift my vehicle or me. >> Nobody's searching your car. >> No, you are. >> No, nobody took my keys out. >> Yeah, you have. >> He's just turning it off. So, he's not wasting your gas. Okay. >> Oh, that's great. Thank you. >> Okay. So, he's just turning your car off, right? >> He's not searching it. >> Okay. >> So, there's case law saying that you don't need to be on the phone unless you're calling 911. We are here. We are here dealing with you. Right. >> We are here dealing with you. >> Of course. >> Yeah. >> So, I'm asking you to put the phone down. >> Sure. Okay. >> Yeah. I'm not going to put my phone down. >> Insurance. >> And why is that? >> Because I'm not in the wrong. This is not a routine traffic stop. >> I'm um actually at a restaurant providing myself with food. >> Mhm. >> And you pulled me over. >> I didn't pull you over. >> And we have one, two, three, four. We have four Charlotte County officers right now. >> He's he's my trainer. >> So, okay. Okay. He's He's my trainer. Okay. So, >> that's good. >> So, >> we're supposed to be one one deputy. >> Yes, sir. >> So, just imagine that it's just one. >> Sure. >> Okay. Um, >> if you're detaining me, if not, please. >> Well, it's a traffic stop. So, yeah, regardless, you're detaining. >> So, uh, you have 24 hours. If not, I'd like to go. >> 24 hours for what? >> Uh, to detain me. If not, I'd like to leave. >> Okay. Well, I'm I'm getting to the next >> If not, I can I'm getting I'm getting to the next part. Okay. So, um, this deputy pulled you over, >> right? Okay. >> And so how does he know my license suspended? He has never seen my license yet. >> I ran your tag. >> Okay. >> Oh, that's cute. >> He He ran >> How do you know I'm that person driving the car? >> Because >> Exactly. >> Right. >> You're not You're not You're not letting them answer, >> right? >> Let him answer. I'm I'm able to run your tag. Okay. I ran your tag. >> Okay. There's four body cams here. >> Your iPhone camera. Okay. As soon as you produced me with your ID, I knew that was you. >> Okay. >> I can tell that you. >> Right. Right. >> I'm Joel KY suspended to you. You have no insurance on the vehicle. >> That's incorrect. >> That's correct. >> No, I have insurance on my vehicle and I am Joel. >> And you have a tag order on your vehicle. Anything else? >> That's incorrect. I do have insurance on my vehicle. >> I have insurance on general. All right. >> Um, so that's incorrect. >> I don't know if it's recent or not with you, but I just recently yesterday >> um a $35. It'll be a signal with a suspended license. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I literally paid $35 yesterday for my general insurance. >> So So listen, I I apologize. Okay. We got off to the wrong start here. What is your first name? >> My name is Joel. >> Joel. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. Joel. So this deputy pulled you over. Okay. >> Okay. >> What What did he say he pulled you over for? He pulled me over for um uh excessive speed and uh and then I think he said invertive lane changing. >> Okay. Um you what kind of lane changing? >> He said invertive which means uh multidirectional. I I that's what he told me. I'm not shooting our officer. >> Okay. I I I'll I'll get the the clear details from him here in just cuz this is not a routine traffic stop. I mean, I'm I'm being uh detained by 1, two, three, four officers of Charlotte County. >> No, again, this is my training. This is my training. Okay. >> Sure. So, um >> and and I'm I'm I'm I listen, I I I uh I would love to help you. Like, that's awesome. I I want >> I want that to happen. Just listen for a second. Okay. So, this deputy pulled you over for for some some violations, traffic violations that he did. Okay. >> Um, >> now, are you sick or injured? >> Am I what? >> Sick or injured? >> No, sir. >> No. Okay. >> Um, so while I'm speaking with you here, okay, I can smell the the odor of an alcoholic beverage coming off your breath. >> Well, I can smell the odor of um marijuana off you. >> Let me let me finish speaking. >> Let me finish speaking. Okay. >> So, this deputy could smell the odor of alcoholic beverage coming from the vehicle as as he was asking you. He He said that you you said you haven't had anything to drink tonight. >> Understandably. >> Of course. >> I I understand that. Okay. So, >> basically, >> have you smoked anything tonight? >> Okay. Let me finish. >> Did I smell marijuana? >> Let me finish Let me finish speaking. >> I was just wondering cuz I really do smell that strong odor of marijuana on you. >> Let me finish speaking. >> Do you Do you smoke marijuana? >> Let me finish speaking. >> I don't care. I don't wonder. Do you have a guard? >> Can I finish speaking, please? >> I don't care if you smoke marijuana. >> Do you smoke marijuana? >> Can I finish speaking, please? Of course, officer. >> Okay. >> More >> Yes, sir. >> So, let me finish speaking, please. >> Of course. >> So, >> based on his observations, >> my observations of you standing here. Okay. >> I can smell the odor of alcoholic beverage coming off your breath. You're slinging your speech. >> Okay. >> Am I am I slurring my speech? >> You are. So, >> that's my that's your >> action. Yes. So, with that being said, okay, with that, >> but it's not like it's it couldn't be like I'm really hungry and I'm at Taco Bell in the parking lot of Taco Bell. >> Can I finish speaking? >> It could not be that, right? It's like I'm slurring because I'm under the influence of alcohol. >> Can I finish speaking? Can I finish? That's what it is. >> Can I finish? Is that what it is? Officer, >> can I finish speaking? >> Is that what it is? >> Can I please finish? >> Can I finish speaking? >> Of course. Go ahead. >> Okay. >> Please. >> So, with that being said, >> right, >> would you be willing to participate in standardized field test to dispel my No, you know, cuz that that is a inconvenience right now. That is honestly an inconvenience of my time. >> Okay. >> I'm here at Taco Bell and this is very this is defamation of character. You are actually really embarrassing me right now. I'm trying to actually order food for me and my family and you are actually embarrassing me right now. So, of course, I'm not going to cooperate. >> Okay. >> That's absurd. >> Okay. So, >> thank you. >> Are are you diabetic now? >> Am I diabetic? Of course I am. >> You are? >> Yes. I'm insulin dependent. >> Oh, you are? >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. So, I'll have the MS come out and and check. >> Yeah. So, when if if you were Yeah, of course. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> All right. Um >> Yeah. >> Okay. I got you. So, uh can you just have EMS come check him? >> All right. Um >> I don't >> I would just like to let you know I'm trying to get my Taco Bell and go home and we have Exactly. What time is it right now? I'm going to tell you >> it's 12:59. We have exactly 15 minutes from the time. Actually, you pulled me over 10 minutes ago. >> No. So, we've moved into something different. >> No, Joel, listen to me. We've moved into something different. So, now now we're doing an investigation. >> Of course we are. Of course we are. >> It's It's going to take a little bit more time. Okay. >> Right. Of course it is. >> Okay. >> So, what is this investigation going to take? >> It it Say it again. >> What is this investigation going to take? What is it going to take? >> Yes. >> Well, I have EMS coming to check you to make sure you're okay right now. >> Of course. Right. Well, I'm >> I'm okay. >> Okay. >> I don't need EMS. >> You don't. >> Don't. Okay. So, >> right. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mors. >> All right. So, um is there anything that I can say or do to have you participate in Sanville's right test? >> No. >> No. Okay. Yeah, >> you do understand that if you don't participate in standardized fields test, I'm going to have to make my arrest decision based on that. >> Of course, >> you understand that? >> Sure. >> Okay. So, do you want EMS to come check you out? >> I would I I would like that. Yes, >> you would. Okay. Cuz you you just told me you didn't want EMS. >> Well, you know what? I I think I would like EMS to come check me out because I don't feel like this is a traffic routine stop. And you have one, two, you have one, two, three, four officers at the scene of a regular, I guess, routine traffic stop at whatever it is, what time it is? Um, it's 1:00 in the morning. So, we have four officers at the scene of a routine traffic stop at 1:00 in the morning because they think that I am intoxicated. So, they are driving and want me to do a field sobriety and have a paramedic come and test me. >> We You just said that you wanted EMS to come check you out. >> No. Offer some warranties. You said that. Is that not what he just said? >> I can cancel him if you don't want him to come. >> Warning for failure to maintain lane and speed. >> He's coming to be a diabetic. >> Oh, he's a diabetic now. >> Yeah. So >> now, um, no, officer. Um, I will take my warning and go if you would like, please. >> No, we moved into something different like I said. >> Well, Mortise, you don't have to do that. We can just take >> That's not how it works. That's That's not how it works. >> No, it's not. >> Okay. So, why is that not how it works? >> Because now it's a criminal investigation. >> It's a criminal Why is the On what grounds? >> What do What do you mean under what? >> Under what grounds is a criminal investigation now? >> I kind of just routine traffic stop. >> I kind of just explained all of that to you. >> I'm sorry. I didn't hear that because obviously you did not explain that. So, I would like to know why from a routine traffic stop it is now a criminal investigation. um from a routine traffic stop. Can you please explain that for officer? >> So, first I want to deem you're claiming to be a diabetic. So, first I want to deem that your blood sugar is okay. >> No, I'm saying that my blood sugar is is probably on the diabetic scale. I'm not considered technically I've never been checked out as a diabetic, but I feel like my blood sugar is a little bit high. >> Um but I don't want to say that I'm not or I am. I don't know. I've never been checked out by the actual paramedics. >> Okay. So, don't put words in my mouth. >> I thought you said you were insulin dependent. >> You did. >> I never said that. >> You did tell me that. >> If I said I was insulin dependent, I would have told you. I have actually on recording here. Thank you, though, Martis. Um, so, Officer, Officer Martiz. Um, what is also the reason why you pulled me over? >> I didn't pull you over as I already told you several times. >> Oh, you didn't? So, I was just ordering tacos and you just uh turned on your lights. >> I did not pull you over is what I'm saying. This deputy pulled you over. >> Uh yes, sir. >> I already explained it to you earlier. You don't need to know again. >> Officer Kimble, what is the reason why you pulled me over? >> Explained it to you. >> What What was the reason that you pulled me over? >> Explained it to you earlier. >> You please um I would love to know why you pulled me over. >> Oh, well, you would love to know that you should have listened earlier when I explained it to you and I told you I would get you two warnings. What did I tell you I'd get you a warning for? I'm sorry, Kimlin. You didn't never told me that. >> Yes, I did. >> Yes, I did. >> How could you specify now that you are on recording? >> Well, you've been on recording the whole time. So, >> correct. So, tell me why me over. >> I already explained it to you. Really? Is there any relation? >> I don't know. >> But I told him I was going to give him two warnings and that was that. So, can I explain you why I pulled him? >> Go ahead and search my vehicle. Search me. That's not what we intend on doing. >> Of course you're not. >> So >> I don't know why I don't know why we have to have this conversation. I am not harming you. I'm not harming someone else. >> Please do what you need to do. >> So you understand how traffic surf, right? You keep saying the word routine traffic stop. No. Number one, no traffic stop is ever routine. Okay. Number two. >> Of course it's not. You're you're targeted. >> I'm targeted? >> No, I'm targeted. >> Oh, >> cuz of my criminal record. >> I don't even know you. This is the first time you know. Yeah. When you pull up my [ __ ] plates, you do know me. >> That's [ __ ] >> Have I ever spoke to you before? >> No. You know I did six years department of correction. So I don't know. >> I don't listen that now. >> All right. >> So anyways, now that now that we've got that off our chest. >> Oh yeah. Now that we got that cuz that was never there. All right. >> This is the first time I mentioned. >> So the um NCAA when they pull up my name and they pull up my plate, they can't see my record and they can't see um what's going on. Right. Can you not see what when you p when you pull my plate, what do you see? >> Give me just a second. >> Are you ready for me to answer your question now? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay, so the re like I told you earlier, the reason I stopped you was two things. Number one, your speed 55 and a 45 like I explained to you. Number two, your failure to drive in a single lane. Okay, you were all over the place like I explained to you up at the window when you tried to roll the window up. Number three, when I ran your tag shows you have no insurance on your vehicle, you have a cas tag on the vehicle and your license is suspended. Anything else? That's incorrect. >> No, it's not. >> So, anyways, hang on. You asked me what I did. Okay. That's that correct. Right. >> This guy right here, he's going to take your blood sugar. Okay. We're going to figure out what we got. Then we're going to go from there. This is a paramedic. Okay. >> Right. >> So, why don't you answer his questions real quick and then we'll go from there. >> Hello, sir. >> My name. >> Hey, how you doing, Lou? >> How you doing? How you doing? I'm good. Good. >> What's going on today? >> All right. Well, you I don't need your help. I'm here with obviously a routine traffic stop and now we have an ambulance here. So, um, we have three officers and an ambulance and they obviously want to do some kind of blood work. So, what's really going on? Um, we have targeting and we have profiling and we have, um, everything else that's going on. So, I'll tell you what. You know what? You check the >> No, I I do. Y >> Yes, I do. >> Yep. And um uh you can tow my car and you can detain me because this is not a routine traffic stop. >> I'm just here I'm just here to make sure that you're okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. That's so kind of >> I heard that it was mentioned that you were diabetic. If you weren't diabetic, are you a diabetic? >> Right. Yeah. No, you know what? I guess what I'm sure I wasn't business. So, thank you though. I I do appreciate your cooper. And um these officers tonight have uh dude, look, you got Look, I'm not going to lie, you're Salt Countyy's finest right now. But don't [ __ ] play me like I'm a [ __ ] fool cuz I just 6 years and I'm know for a fact I am in my rights, okay? I have not been swerving. I have not been driving stupid. My license and my plate right here is not expired and I am in the rut. So, your routine traffic stop is [ __ ] >> Okay. All right. >> Like we explained earlier, answer these guys' question. Do you need them to sign anything? I'm I'mma just uh you mind if I get you to sign that you don't want to check you out and everything, >> right? >> That's fine. We'll sign for we got >> Hey Siri, call Scott Weinberg. >> Oh, again calling Scott again. >> I got it right here. >> That's fine. >> Go ahead and put your hand. Don't There's no reason to open this one. 213 central one detained. >> All right. So Joe, uh I just want >> and driving on a suspended. >> So why don't I build because you just refused? I did not. You did. >> I didn't refuse. I did not. >> Move his car out of the way. Come on, don't tear up. [ __ ] [ __ ] Seriously, >> dude. You had your You had your opportunity to cooperate and you didn't. Okay. >> Where were I? >> I'm trying to help you. >> I've been I don't do [ __ ] [ __ ] >> We've been respectful with you. Okay. >> You have. All right. So, here you go. >> Well, I have to now. >> I know you. I don't know if you're having a bad day. All right. If you're having Listen, listen to me. >> A real [ __ ] bad day, obviously. >> Listen, dude. Listen. [ __ ] >> We've been nothing but polite to you. >> I know you're not, officer. >> Listen, we don't take anything personal. Okay. >> But you're continuously escalating, and we're not going to put you number one in that position, and we're not going to put our guys in that position. >> I understand. >> Okay. That's why you went into handcuffs. >> I understand. >> Okay. You kept escalating. We're not going to keep escalating. >> I know. I know. >> Just take some deep breaths. It's okay. >> All right. I'm trying to count back to prison. There you go. >> Are you in probation? >> I don't know. I did. >> You went out of prison in 2014, didn't you? >> I got out of prison [ __ ] 4 months ago, man, when my wife died. All right. >> Okay. >> What were you in prison for? I don't know what you were in prison for. >> Cuz I sold [ __ ] drugs in this county. I don't do it no more. All right, man. I [ __ ] >> I'm a [ __ ] project manager and I [ __ ] obey law. All right. Like, come on, man. Come some [ __ ] slack. I'm not out here [ __ ] slinging your [ __ ] stupid [ __ ] man. I ain't killing people. >> I didn't say you were, man. >> No one said you were, Joel. >> Joel, >> have you ever been arrested with DIY before? >> Never. >> Okay, this is a missile, man. >> I know, but still. You know what? >> You missed me right now when I got out 5 months ago from [ __ ] 3 years. You're Mr. Me. >> Spread your feet, Joe. >> [ __ ] man. I don't know what you what you score out to, okay? I I don't know. I don't >> I do know what I score to. You know what? And I didn't. This is [ __ ] crazy. >> Just have him just do the signature. >> Yeah, >> you guys are gonna lose the court. You're just making me look bad for no reason. And as soon as I come out, listen. No one's making you look bad. >> You are. Come on, man. I don't do this. I'm not >> We can search him. >> All right. You got anything on you? >> No, sir. Not at all. >> Listen, this is what I want you to do. All right, Joel, when you sit in the back of this car, >> okay, just take a deep breath. All right, it's done. It's over with. All right, you're going to have you're going to have your time in court. >> Okay, >> you're it's done and over with. >> All right, just take it what it is for right now. Okay, like I said, you're going to have your time in court. Is there anything in your car that you need? Medication, anything like that? >> No. >> I noticed there's a baby seat in there. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Is there a kid at home that I need to try? Go ahead and [ __ ] me with DCFU. >> No, I'm not going to. >> I got two kids that I provide for if that's what you're wanting for. They're at my naughies. They're at their naughties. They're at my grandmother's. >> I just want to make sure they're taken care of. That's >> great. They're You know what? When you arrest me, it's going to make even worse. So, go ahead. >> No, it's it's not going to make anything worse. I just want to make sure that they're not home. You didn't leave them at home by accident. >> You know what? Cuz I'm not even intoxicated. And when you put me >> Well, then you can you'll have your you'll have you can do you can do a breathalyzer down at the jail. >> You know, I will. And now I'm going to have to spend now I'm going to have to spend money now because >> guys I'm I'm going to reach across and grab a seat belt. I'm listening to you though. >> Go ahead. >> No, you're good. Go ahead. Reach across. >> Kind of a big dude, man. I'm trying to do this the best I can. >> Go ahead. Do it. >> Can at least Can it Can you let me park my car in the space at least that my I can have someone come get it? >> Unfortunately, we can't, man. >> So, you're going to make me pay the [ __ ] $1,000 towing fee? >> It's not going to be,000 bucks. Sure, I will. It'll be 500 to get it and then 500 on the impound. Please let me just park it in the space, >> please. >> Here's the issue. Okay, >> you can you do it? I'll give you my keys. >> I I understand. Here's the issue, though. There, like this deputy was saying, there is a cease tag order. Okay, cease tag order on your vehicle means we have to remove the tag. Okay, so that vehicle can't be driven on the roadway. All right. So, even if we parked it here and left it here, now we're kind of reliable for whatever >> my brother My brother will pay it right now. >> I I understand what you're saying, man. It It's your vehicle. It would have to be released to you, but we can't do that at this time. >> All right. All right. Watch your knee. I got to close this door. Okay.